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UK Expats travelling to Turkey?

in Turkey by @davda1546 | 4mo 4mo | 0 comments

Hi all, my husband and I have been living in Bulgaria for the past month and were considering Turkey next! Have any UK nationals entered Turkey lately? I believe that anyone entering Turkey will undergo health screening and if they show symptoms they need to get medical treatement, did this happen for you? Reason we ask is for Bulgaria we filled out forms but weren't asked for them) Thanks.

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How is Istanbul for digital nomads?

in Istanbul, Turkey by @theunisk | 6yr 6yr | 13 comments

I’m soon heading out on my first solo international trip as a remote worker.
I’m thinking of starting in Istanbul mid June, and slowly making my way up
north, staying a month or so in cities along the way.

Have any of you stayed in Istanbul for a couple of weeks or longer? Anyone there now?
For accommodation there seems to be some options on airbnb.

Which areas are good and which are best avoided?
Are there any useful local sites?
Would it be worth booking a place for a couple of nights and trying to find a good deal on the ground?
What would a good rate be for a room or small apartment for a one month stay?

A lot of questions here, I’d appreciate any bits of advice you can share!

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@aurelienb | 5yr 5yr

@arman Thanks for your answer and the advice. I had seen this coworking space but I thought it was too far from asian part. I will reconsider my point of view and contact them, because I saw they have two spaces.
I’m not yet in Istanbul, it will be the next week but I still have no flat and coworking space so that’s why I asked for your nice advices !
As I have to stay only three weeks in Istanbul I think I might choose the european side to be close to coworking spaces, at least for the first week.

Thanks all for your great answers !

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@arman | 5yr 5yr

There are frequent ferries across both sides so even if you stay on the Asian side your journey won’t be too painful. If it’s a short-term stay then Airbnb would work great (even though it is a bit pricey), and the best neighborhood on the European side is Cihangir! - although I may be biased as I live here…

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@ride | 5yr 5yr

OK. Back to Istanbul. I’d definitely stay on the Asian side, for long term. Of course, it depends on your personal tastes and preferences, but the NY Times video is instructive.

This new shopping mall (under construction; looks good!) will house Apple’s 3rd Istanbul store (Turkey is a mayor power), for some culture on the Asian side.

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@arman | 5yr 5yr

The asian side is great, Karikoy and Moda are incredible areas but still the same price as somewhere like Cihangir on the european side for long term rent (where I’m staying and love).

Have you checked out the neighborhood Karakoy? Loads of little cafes, shops & more and all very hipster. Reminds me of Shoreditch in London.

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@ride | 5yr 5yr

Freakin’ too big city for my taste. Anyone tried Izmir? It may be interesting on may levels, according to my Turkish sources.

Even Antalya; it’s not only about tourists, many expats live there as well. 1/3rd of the population are Russian, I was told. Mostly females, married, or want to marry, a Turk or a nomad.

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@aurelienb | 5yr 5yr

Hi all,
@podviaznikov do you have advices for some coworking spaces in Istanbul except Yazane and Urban Station , already listed in this thread, if you have tested one of them.

Thanks

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@arman | 5yr 5yr

Hey @AurelienB check out Kolektif House, definitely the coolest coworking space around with great events, live music nights and a super awesome community! I’ve been in Istanbul for 3 months now and tried almost everywhere, Kolektif House is where I meet the most international, friendly and like minded people in the city.

If you’re looking for cafes in the area to work from, anywhere in Karaköy and Cihangir will do, just pop into a cafe when you see someone on their laptop and plug in! Happy to help out if you have any other questions about remote working in Istanbul

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@afternoon | 5yr 5yr

Bad choice.

AirBnB prices are going through the roof IMHO. You should find a flatmate if you want to stay there. Internations forum is a good choice if you want to find one.

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@podviaznikov | 6yr 6yr

I agree with @norydev. For me Istanbul is a good place for the digital nomads:

It is huge city and there are a lot of things to do and see.
Good public transport
A lot of places to eat out
Good amount of nice coworking spaces
Good prices on AirBnB

Kadiköy is definitely great neighborhood. I also like neighborhood near Cevahir Mall and Sutluce.

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@norydev | 6yr 6yr

This is my opinion, but we are all really different, so you might just give it a try.

Istanbul is great! My favorite place to stay is Kadiköy on the Asian side. There is a lot of nice people outside at night, small pedestrian streets with nice bars, not as crowded as the european side (but crowded still, don’t misunderstand me).

My experience is that it is hard to get an airbnb late (like, for tonight or tomorrow). Best to plan ahead. Otherwise, tons of cheap hostels in beyoglu and sultanahmet. But they are very un-even, so you can give it a try. I love the hush moda hostel in kadiköy, and Neverland in beyoglu. But if you want to work, the internet can be unreliable, and you’ll have to use the dinning tables as desk. For the price, I find Istanbul expensive in general. stay with hostels or airbnb (the prices are not overrated), the local renting system is not worth playing with if you stay so short.

If you are into coworking, Yazane is the best. I have tried Urban Station in Maslak only. It was very “quiet” (4-5 people, not much interaction), but the one in galata or sisane could be more “alive”.

Hope you will enjoy it!

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@theunisk | 6yr 6yr

Thanks @norydev, I appreciate it.
I found quite a few options on http://www.sublet.com as well, but I don’t think I’d commit to anything on there without going to see the place first.

Would you mind expanding a bit on what you mean when you say you find Istanbul expensive in general? Expensive relative to? I’m going entirely based on projections from airbnb, nomadlist & numbeo.com. Would you say those are fairly accurate or way out?

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@norydev | 6yr 6yr

When I say “it is expensive”, I am comparing to the rest of Turkey, and the big cities in the area (South-east Europe). But it also depends a lot where in Istanbul you want to be. For rents, Airbnb is the best indicator to me. Street food is much more expensive in the touristic areas than in Üsküdar for example, but it would be from 10 to 50 TL without drinks, and restaurants a bit higher.

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@theunisk | 6yr 6yr

Thanks for clarifying!

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How to find accommodation in Turkey?

in Turkey by @pilat | 6yr 6yr | 8 comments

… or in any modern town (with multi-storey appt buildings).

Hi, I’m going to Alanya, Turkey this October/November (then moving to Goa). My plan for Goa is the following: I rent something via Booking/AirBnB for just 2-3 days so that we could be rested from the road. During these days I’m going to shop around for longer and less expensive accommodation. In India, they say, the best way is to do it “offline”: just go to streets and look for “Rooms to let” signs. It’s Ok, I believe, in rural area with 1-2 story houses, but how would one “shop offline” in a modern town like Alanya? I mean, you won’t go into a multi-storey apartment buildings and knock at the doors, will you? Any advices?

Maybe, there are some boards that locals use to rent flats? I don’t like prices on AirBnB, to be honest… Especially with current Rub-to-Euro conversion rate
Besides, our primary goal on this trip is to try living “like a native”; not interested in touristic attractions.

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@pilat | 5yr 5yr

Ok. I’ve found affordable option and here’s how: a friend of mine suggested a facebook group of russian expats in Alanya. There I’ve found few options, met with owners etc. The prices are surprisingly lower on the facebook feed than in most rental sites.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr 5yr

maybe you could link to that group so others can find it as well?

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@pilat | 5yr 5yr

Here they are:

Russian group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rentalanya/
Not sure about something similar in English… Here’s an expats group, though: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Alanyaexpatssocialgroup/ (warning: they consider rental ads as spam, but you could try to ask about proper rental group there)

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@alesis | 6yr 6yr

The best way to find an accommodation in another country is to talk to some friend who have already been there. It is the most safe way to my mind.

I’ve been to Turkey for at least 5 times and i’ve also faced a problem like you do now. A friend of mine recommended me a small hotel right in the middle of Antalya. I used his advice and settled there. BTW its name is Eski Masal Hotel. It is a really nice place to come either with your friends or with your lovers. I’ve also visited Eski Masal with my parents once and they also liked it a lot.

Nice service, good people, delicious cuisine - perfect atmosphere for those who are not looking for getting drunk 24/7 during their trip to Antalya.

One thing I say - I’ve visited Eski Masal Hotel for 4 times and I will do it all the time because those guys know how to make my leisure unforgettable.

Hope I was helpful, buddy!
Have a nice day!

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@markcaggiano | 6yr 6yr

In turkey you can find easily accomodation offline. You can find also good hotels with private rooms and wifi for around 30 TL.

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@pilat | 6yr 6yr

[quote=“Marco_Caggiano, post:4, topic:3447, full:true”]
In turkey you can find easily accomodation offline. You can find also good hotels with private rooms and wifi for around 30 TL.[/quote]

Well, that’s my question: How? How do one finds accommodations offline in a modern town (specifically, in Alanya)? Where should I go first? Maybe, buy certain newspaper? I’ve read about “go ask where Main street is” concept in Lonely Planet, but that’s applicable to villages, I believe?

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@ali | 6yr 6yr

Hello Viladimir ,

Alanya is a popular city in Antalya. Too many German lives there and they have their own houses. İt takes about 2-3 hours to reach the city.
I would recommend kemer or konyaaltı for a better vacation. You can find too many shopiing center and beaches are great. Too many russian,ukranien people choose kemer or konyaaltı part for vacation. I live in konyaaltı and too many russian family live in konyaaltı together with us.

By the way drop me a message when you come to Antalya. I would be gald to meet with you.

Cheers

Ali

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@pilat | 6yr 6yr

Thank you for the suggestion. Still, any howtos on the subject? (looking for affordable accommodations in cities like Alanya, Antalya, etc.)

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What is possible demand for a co-living space in Istanbul?

in Istanbul, Turkey by @muratkun | 6yr 6yr | 2 comments

Hello
Im a startup lover from Istanbul, and me and my friends we opened first non-profit co-working space for students near Bogaziçi university.(we are also still in college)

its called " garage " spelling is in Turkish : http://www.garaj.co/

It is totaly free for students, we host events like startup talks, give workshops about ios-android dev, pi-arduino , robotics, data ,analytics etc.
We teach little kids (7-15 olds )basics of programming (scratch) for free

What im asking here is ; I need to come up with a business model to make it sustainable for a long time.

Co-living concept sounds pretty good to me and i feel like it will get just bigger and better in the future.

So im asking your opinion about staying in a co-living space which is part of a student co-working area for digital nomads.Its in university neighboorhood 40 minutes train ride to anywhere(Taksim-bluemosque are etc). Young passionate people around and decent internet connection.It won’t cost much

Thanks for reply

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@norydev | 6yr 6yr

Hi Murat,
I love the idea! If a co-living existed in Istanbul, I would love to spend some time there. Also, your co-working space looks great.
I don’t know the place near Bogaziçi, but it seems a bit remote for me. Istanbul transports are nightmare I think. But I guess, you can’t change the place, so…
To me clearly, it would be awesome if in Kadiköy, I buy directly. I buy with pleasure in Beyoglu, Galata, Karaköy. Other than this it really needs some good arguments.
Would it allow short term stays? Or only long term? What was your idea?

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@muratkun | 6yr 6yr

Hey Fabien
Thanks,
We are located a little bit north in Istanbul and traffic is terrible but we just had our direct subway line to university so not bad for transportation.
Kadiköy is great neighborhood. I love Beyoglu district like all young people in Turkey. It would be really nice to have a place there.
Need to work on structure and business model more for good arguments. I was thinking through what i have at the moment.
I Like to be connected and connect digital nomads with local same mind people.
If you are around Istanbul, like to buy you drink and talk more

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Generally favorable on Antalya, but not perfect. The weather was excellent (~26 C almost every day) and the nature of the city is absolutely stunning. The mountains on the west side of the city seem to just explode out of the ocean and it's special to see. That said, the built environment is pretty uninspiring. The center of the city is full of interesting restaurants and shops, but outside of the old town it's not very exciting to look at. My primary complaint, however, is on public transit. It's easy to use the tram to get to/from the airport and bus station, but outside of those destinations you better be ready to walk (or use a cab, which I try to never do). Wifi was solid but I did have some drops here and there, my apartment was decent, and the city felt pretty safe. It's also incredibly cheap. I tend to be very frugal, so take this with a grain of salt, but you can easily get a quality meal for about $4 US and would have no problem getting an awesome meal for $8 US. Overall, I enjoyed it, but I wouldn't have wanted to stay much longer than the two weeks I was there.

3 months ago

i wanted to reply to one of the review that gave 3/5 to Antalya. I think Antalya deserves much better! It's a huge city of 2million inhabitants and it still feel super great because of the nature, the parks, the mountains, the sea, the culture, etc. It's true that locals don't really speak English but they are super nice and try to communicate with you the way they can. For taxi, there is literally taxi buttons every few meters in all the streets: you click on the button, and a taxi is coming withing a minute. For internet, you should buy the simcard in the city center, it's gonna be cheaper than at the airport. Btw Wikipedia is not blocked in 2020. You have many food and cafe options, after traveling the world Antalya is one of the best places I've been. One thing though: it needs a bigger digital nomad community and better coworking spaces.

8 months ago

Antalya is not that bad, but here are the problems:
1) Not much in terms of co-working options. Feels like there are just a few options there. I found one coworking space, but honestly doesn't feel like a nomad place
2) Too few people speak English. It's really a struggle to communicate.
3) Feels too slow sometimes
4) No ridesharing apps. Literally. The only option is to book traditional taxis.
5) Internet is slow, including Airbnb's
6) Mobile internet plans are expensive. Not worth it.
7) VPN is a must. Wikipedia is blocked, for example.

On a flip side:
1) Airbnb's are cheap
2) Many options to go in the mountains, etc. Beautiful place.
3) Has a potential to grow

Overall 3/5 I would say. Not bad, but there are better places for nomads.

1 year ago

Antalya is becoming more and more popular for digital nomads because of great city life, amazing nature (sea + mountains), a great beach park right in the center, a walkable and bicycle-friendly center, multiple international connections from its international airport (that also has a tramway to the center of the city for around $0,50), cheap prices for a high quality of life. And Turkey is of course famous for being very hospitable and offering tasty food!

We need some options for coworking spaces but I'm sure there will be many soon.

Antalya is my favorite city in Turkey so far :)

one of the most popular spots for european and russian tourists during summer (june-july-august). especially its counties are known for beaches, resorts and other natural beauties. temperature can be over 40 degrees.

2 years ago

⭐️ Overall Score	3.08/5 (Rank #478) 254 reviews
👍 Quality of life score	Okay
👶 Family score	Bad
💵 Cost	😝 Cheap: €778 / mo
📡 Internet	🙂 Good: 9Mbps (avg)
😝 Fun	Great
⛅️ Temperature (now)	🥶 Too cold: 12°C54°F (feels 12°C54°F)
💦 Humidity (now)	💦 Damp: 86%
💨 Air quality (now)	😐 Moderate: 96 US AQI
💨 Air quality (annual)	😷 Unhealthy for some: 139 US AQI
👌 Safety	🧨 Conflict / political instability
🎓 Education level	Medium
💰 Income level	Low
❤️ Liked by members	👍7 likes vs. 👎2 dislikes
🙊 English speaking	Bad
🚶 Walkability	Great
✌️ Peace (no pol. conflict)	Bad
🚦 Traffic safety	Okay
🏥 Hospitals	Okay
😄 Happiness	Okay
🍸 Nightlife	Good
📶 Free WiFi in city	Great
🖥 Places to work from	Great
❄️ A/C or heating	Okay
😁 Friendly to foreigners	Great
🗯 Freedom of speech	Bad
🤚🏿🤚🏻 Racial tolerance	Bad
👩 Female friendly	Bad
🌈 LGBTQ+ friendly	Bad
🎅 Startup Score	Bad

🌍 Region	Europe
🚩 Country	Turkey
⏱ Average trip duration	14 days
📡 Internet speed (avg)	9 Mbps
⛅️ Weather (now)	🌧 12°C 54°F + 💦 Damp (86%) = feels 12°C 54°F
💨 Air quality (now)	😐 96 US AQI = 🚬 / day
💨 Air quality (annual avg)	😷 139 US AQI = 🚬 🚬 / day
🔌 Power	230V 50Hz
🚕 Best taxi app (in country)	Uber
🚑 Travel medical insurance	Safetywing
📱 Best wireless carrier	AVEA
💸 10 TRY in USD	USD 1.11
🏧 Suggested ATM take out:	TRY 1,000 = USD 111
💸 Tipping	No
💳 Cashless society
💻 Best coworking space	co working camp
🚰 Safe tap water	🚫 No, not drinkable
♻️ Return rate	11% of visitors return
📸 Visitors per year	6,457,400 visitors
📸 Tourists now	123,756 tourists
👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Population	1,000,000 people
👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 GDP per Capita	$10,863 / year
🏞 Foreign land ownership allowed	Yes
⛪️ Religious government	Religious
💻 Online electronics shop	Hepsiburada
🏠 Apartment listings	Sahibinden
✈️ Best short-haul air carrier	AnadoluJet
✈️ Best int'l air carrier	Turkish

💵 Cost of living for nomad	€778 / month
💵 Cost of living for expat	€417 / month
💵 Cost of living for family	€619 / month
💵 Cost of living for local	€177 / month
🏠 1br studio rent in center	€78 / month
🏢 Coworking	€95 / month
🏨 Hotel	€561 / month
🏨 Hotel	€26 / night
🏠 Airbnb (711 listings)	€866 / month
🏠 Airbnb	€28 / night
🍛 Dinner	€2
🥤 Coca-Cola (0.3L)	€0
🍺 Beer (0.5L)	€2
☕️ Coffee	€1
💰 Estimated tax on $50,000	$17,500
💰 Estimated tax on $100,000	$35,000
💰 Estimated tax on $250,000	$87,500

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