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Are there any self-employed visas available in European countries?


by @oskar6yr  | 15 comments

Hi guys

Does anybody know if there are special visas for self employed people in European countries? I dont have a European passport but i would like to stay a bit longer than the time allowed to tourists. I know Germany have some kind of visa but are there any other countries in the region? what about the UK?
Thanks!

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I hear Germany and Spain are great for that issue

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I was just reading about self-employed visas available in Scandinavia โ€“ specifically Denmark (startup/ entrepreneur visa), Sweden and Finland. I donโ€™t remember seeing self-employed visa options for these countries before, but maybe I didnโ€™t do my research deeply enough. Does anyone (non-EU) have experience getting visas in these countries?

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@oskar6yr

@highhermitage
Ok i get the idea now. I think for now i will keep using my passport only. The UK is by far the toughest entry point in europe but so far i have never had any problem entering it. I went there in 2014 for 1 week, and then this year again in july and iโ€™m still here but i plan to leave before december. So i think if you enter the UK once in a year and you dont overstay the 6 month period you should be fine :smile:

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@Oskar
The Schengen zone restrictions still apply (90 days in any 180 days), itโ€™s just more convenient to come back to Germany for however long you want rather than leaving Europe or getting another short-term visa in another country. Iโ€™ve crossed 5 borders in the last few months and never had my passport checked or stamped, so if youโ€™re not taking a flight there really isnโ€™t any way for them to enforce how long youโ€™ve been in the other European countries.

What youโ€™re talking about was my original plan, and it will probably work if you are only doing it for a year. I know that at least in the UK it mentions in the fine print that if they notice you are entering too often (even if itโ€™s according to the rules) they may deny you on the 2nd or 3rd entry. Other than that I see no reason why it wouldnโ€™t work.

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@dhamm6yr

The German freelance visa is surprisingly easy to acquire. The only 2 things that are semi-difficult are registering a residence and showing you have German companies/individuals to work with.

For the residence permit, you just need the apartment/house owner to sign something saying you are living here as of this date. Then you take that note to the local Buergeramt and they register you as a resident. In some cities, I understand they will begin requiring a signed rental contract, but I just asked hosts on AirBNB before booking if they were willing to give me a note and finally found one who was willing to help (in Berlin). In the past, you could even just have a German friend write something that says you are living with them and it would work, though Iโ€™m not sure if they have tightened up on this.

For proof of work, you need 2 โ€˜Letters of Intentโ€™ to hire from either an individual or a company in Germany that says they intend to hire you for freelance work at X hours per week and X euros per hour. You donโ€™t actually have to work with these people afterward, it is not a contract, only a statement that says they Intend to work with you. Not that Iโ€™m advocating it, but this part is actually pretty easy to get a friend to type up and sign, especially if they have a small company of their own.

After those 2 things, everything else is easy and just busy-work. Insurance, bank statement, assets, your financial plan, etc. You will not need a business plan for the self-employed freelancer visa, just a page that shows your expected incoming and outgoing monthly income.

I went through this whole process a few months ago and received a 2-year visa, so if you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

Edit: I should note that this went smoothly because there is an economic need for people in IT.

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@bhushan5yr

Hi @highhermitage:

Thank you for all the information. I have only one question to ask, if your 90 days visa expires before you get freelance visa, are you allowed to freely move in Schengen Zone until you get freelance visa?

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@oskar6yr

@highhermitage
Thanks for your reply. Do you know if with that german visa you can move to another country like UK or Netherlands and live there for a period of time in those 2 years? or its only to live in Germany?
Iโ€™m still weighting my options. My passport allows me to stay 3 months in schengen, 3 months in Ireland or Croatia, and 6 months in the UK, so i can definitely stay 1 year in europe without any visas, so iโ€™m not sure if all the paperwork would be worth it if iโ€™m only allowed to stay and live in germanyโ€ฆ

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@oskar, I have had a few friends use this option http://www.spanishbusinessvisas.com/
Spain has a new entrepreneurial visa that is fairly easy I hear. Also they have a self-employed visa. I also hear Estonia is pretty DM friendly as wellโ€ฆ

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@oskar6yr

@chrispreynolds But that spanish visa seems to be related to having a business planโ€ฆWhat about people working as freelancers for clients? Do they fit also for this visa? Do you have to stay in spain or you can move to other EU country to live with that visa?
thanks!

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@Oskar those all would be questions for the gang at spanishbusinessvisas.comโ€ฆI donโ€™t know too much about the deets :smile:

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I donโ€™t think you need to speak German to get their freelance visa. But you need a biz plan of sorts. Like what your service will be, how you will get clients. I donโ€™t know much more on it that that.

I am under the impression that the German freelancer visa is the easiest to get.

Once youโ€™re in Europe you can move about without any trouble. You wonโ€™t get checked for passport/visa once youโ€™re inside. That is my experience. But I would be careful in the Scandinavian countries & Finland if youโ€™re breaking rules. They are the strictest.

I know a guy who overstayed his visa Germany while waiting for a freelance one, and they let him come and go (in and out of the EU/Schengen) because he had an appointment for the freelance visa.

Or you can also just overstay in Spain or Italy. Iโ€™m in BCN and it is super common.

Iโ€™ve heard of people staying for 10 years and returning to the USA for a month and able to come back in the next month with no questions.

Iโ€™ve also heard of people returning via Portugal to avoid questions. Then returning to Spain.

Butโ€ฆ If you get caught, you can get some restrictions on traveling to Europe. Like requiring a visa for the next 5 years.

This is all stuff Iโ€™ve just heard from people in and around Europe. Iโ€™ve looked into some of it, but not thoroughly.

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@oskar6yr

But for the german visa you need a residence address or rental agreement beforehand. How to get one? Also does the german visa allows you to move freely through all europe, or you have to live for that period of time only in germany?
thanks

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Germanyโ€™s freelancer visa is pretty straightforward

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@akaako6yr

I also supposed that officially confirmed knowledge of German language is required, is it true?

Thank you.

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Germany, Switzerland, Italy, I think Poland. maybe some others. Do a search for freelancer visa.

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