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Australians - are you an Australian resident for tax purposes?


in Australia by @kathrynoh | 4yr  | 8 comments

If no, how do you get around the being in one place for two years or more requirement?

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@sonja | 4yr

I was away for 2.5 years in various places and still declared/did my income tax in Aus. I just find it easier to stay as a tax resident at home and then for all foreign earnings (whether Iโ€™m away or home) I just work out the exchange rate for that month and add it as Australian earnings. I guess if I ended up earning more of a different currency than Australian $ as my primary income, Iโ€™d look at changing my tax residency. Is there any particular reason you want to change your โ€˜tax residencyโ€™ to a different place?

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@kathrynoh | 4yr

I was just wondering about it. Up until recently, I had investment property in Australia so it was not worth looking at other options but I no longer have that.

Do you do the exchange yourself? I thought the ATO had official exchange rates.

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@sonja | 4yr

Ok fair enough.

Yes, I use this website to see rates: https://www.ato.gov.au/rates/foreign-exchange-rates/ (donโ€™t bother with daily, monthly is legally fine).

And then I input them into a spreadsheet of income and expenses that automatically does the exchange and then gives me final figures in $AUD.

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@grum | 4yr

You canโ€™t escape the Australian Tax department. Weโ€™re under a worldwide tax system so unless you decide to stop being Australian or happen to be super wealthy, youโ€™re going to have to declare all your income to the ATO regardless of residency.

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@ms_maire | 4yr

This is 100% not true. Perhaps youโ€™re thinking of the US system?

Australians pay tax to the ATO if you are an Australian tax resident on worldwide income. Ie, as long as you are an Australian tax resident, you will pay tax on any of your income, derived from anywhere.

However, if you STOP being an Australian tax resident, you no longer have to submit a return with the ATO.

However, stopping being an Australian tax resident is hard. You canโ€™t just simply leave Australia and think you arenโ€™t a tax resident. You need to tell the ATO you have left and you need to be able to prove you arenโ€™t a tax resident, i.e.:

  • youโ€™ve established residence somewhere else, perhaps by taking a longterm lease
  • you dont have property in Aus, ie house, car
  • you show no signs that you plan to return to Australia

There is a series of tests that you need to pass to prove you arenโ€™t a tax resident anymore.

In most cases, digital nomads wonโ€™t be able to pass the test unfortunately.

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@kathrynoh | 4yr

Actually you can if you plan to be at one address overseas for 2 years or more. My sister works for a multinational company in Hong Kong and sheโ€™s still an Australian citizen but not a resident for tax purposes.

Iโ€™m just wondering if anyone has tested the 2 years thing. Iโ€™m assuming you would need a visa as proof that you have the right to live and work somewhere else.

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@ms_maire | 4yr

You dont need a visa, residency etc. You can prove youโ€™re no longer a resident using things like investment in the new country, longterm lease, kids in school, - evidence youโ€™ve set up life somewhere else. Unfortunately this doesnโ€™t work well for digital nomads :frowning: but it is possible (iโ€™ve done so).

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@grum | 4yr

Actually you canโ€™t if youโ€™re a digital nomad.

The 2+ year scenario doesnโ€™t apply to digital nomads as it requires the person to declare themselves a permanent resident of their host country under (in most cases) a sponsored (non-holiday) working visa. Bouncing from country to country and acknowledging an 183+ day immigration residency doesnโ€™t count as tax residency falls under a different definition.

Those who use the 2+ year scenario declare themselves to the ATO as โ€œpermanentlyโ€ away from Australia. Once they return they fall under a โ€œwhoops, changed my mindโ€ deal which may result in an audit, require proof of international income and possibly result in the payment of back taxes (minus the medicare levy and other similar fees) depending on how bad of a day the person at the ATO is having.

In most cases where the person has a normal non-nomadic job, can prove occupational AND taxation residency, does not have any Australian shares, property or income from Australian interest, they wonโ€™t usually have to pay Australian tax.

As digital nomads can not fall into this scenario, their options are to either declare the double-taxable personal income or set up a business or similar in another country and funnel earnings though that.

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Hello everyone! Iโ€™m new here and probably this is a very newbie question, but it doesnโ€™t leave my head.

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by @as11 | 10mo 9 months ago | 11 comments

Currently in Playa Del Carmen, Mexico and heading to Santa Teressa, Costa Rica next week.
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I am a New Zealander looking to travel for a couple of years in different countries. For this purpose I would ideally like to shift my company to a lower tax territory where I will live part time, as I am currently taxed at roughly 33% in New Zealand, however itโ€™s closer to 40% when I add in all the hidden taxes.

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I have been a digital nomad for the last couple of years. I have always worked in tech and now run a couple of profitable online businesses that give me a reliable income and allow me to fund a nomadic lifestyle.

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b) I believe in properties as investment and I want to diversify my investment portfolio (mainly stocks)

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Has anyone heard of anything like that?

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I previously use Profia. Contract is ending and I want to have someone who accepts crypto payment instead.

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How to be sure of new tax residence?


by @analogmario | 1yr 1 year ago | 0 comments

Hi, Iโ€™m new here.
I am moving out forever.
So I am going to move to another country my residence.
But, in the new country I donโ€™t plan to spend more than 90 days a year for sure, at least itโ€™s not the plan for the first years.

But I want to be sure that my tax residence is in my new country, even if I spend less than 90 days a year.
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Hope that was understandable.

Does anyone know where I can get information about this kind related to nomadism?

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Iโ€™m currently in Penang, Malaysia and I was thinking to head to Thailand next. What are the best islands in Thailand to get some work done? I was considering either Ko Lanta or Ko Phangan because those both islands have coworking spaces. I might need to take some client calls, also video. Is the wifi good enough? Are there any other differences between the islands?

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We are leaving for Greece in 60 days and need good wifi for the 3 months we plan on staying there, this is a must! Iโ€™ve heard mixed reviews and the 8-10 ranking on nomadlist are not super encouraging. Has anyone recently worked from there? What should we expect? We plan on renting an apartment after staying in airbnb and would like to work from the place we are staying in. Thanks so much for helping me decide if we can continue on or change plans.

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On New Yearโ€™s Day this year, I was refused entry to the UK due to not having proof of funds, an outward-bound plane ticket (I was road-tripping out with a friend via car) and not being able to prove that I had indeed canceled the lease on the apartment I had leased during a prior recent trip.

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Anybody have any suggestions on how to make the approval process go as smoothly as possible?

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