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Best visa options to stay in Schengen Area for >90 days?


by @tylertringas | 5yr  | 12 comments

Specifically Iโ€™m self-employed with an American passport. Curious if there are any good tips & tricks for staying in Schengen Area more than 90 days, like closer to a year.

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Well if youโ€™re a REAL crazy adventurer, you can just live in Ukraine (Odessa, specifically) like me and no one cares if you over-stay your visa-stamp-welcome. Once I paid fine of $50 when exiting. But other than that, no one cares.

A tip to my American friends: Youโ€™re allowed a SECOND passport, legally. Just apply for one. I go in and out of Shengen every 90 days with my 2nd passport (which has a different passport number, picture, et al) and it works like magic. But soon, there will be a fingerprint requirement. But for now itโ€™s good.

Happy Nomading!!!

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@lightmotif | 5yr

This is great info. Does anyone know if you get a long-stay visa in Malta or Germany, is this a Schengen visa (the Maltese embassy told me it was) that allows you to travel in the entire Schengen region for the length of the approved visa? They couldnโ€™t answer the latter but I would think that would be the case. Also, how could a country require that you be present 6 months for the year? Doesnโ€™t seem likely they wouldnโ€™t let you out if you tried to leave? :smile:

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@gigigriffis | 5yr

My understanding is that the countries that require the 6 months are requiring it for keeping your visa. Most long-stay visas are for a year, so if you leave for more than 6 months at a time, you lose them and/or may lose the ability to renew the next year. It depends on the country, though. Just something to look into when youโ€™re looking at Europe.

And yes, Malta is in the border-free schengen zone. I didnโ€™t go through immigration when arriving in Malta or arriving back in Switzerland after my Malta trip.

So Iโ€™d just check and see what their requirements are stay-wise.

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@archagon | 5yr

If you have savings but not a lot of income (like if youโ€™re getting your business off the ground) I wonder if you could create an LLC and โ€œpayโ€ yourself as sufficient evidence? Or would they consider savings as part of the daily pay requirements, I wonder?

Iโ€™ve been looking into this a little bit but several sources have indicated that the process can end up costing several thousand dollars in the end. Are there any first-hand accounts of people who have gone this route?

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@gigigriffis | 5yr

Sorry, I should have been clearer - at least in the case of Switzerland (and many other European countries Iโ€™ve researched, though Switz is the only one I have direct experience with) savings is fine proof. I went in with savings figures and tax statements from previous years when I applied for my Swiss long-stay.

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@archagon | 5yr

Thanks! Do you know what kind of figure theyโ€™re looking for in terms of savings?

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@gigigriffis | 5yr

Depends on the country (see above - Switzerland is $100 per day; Malta is less than $20k for the year; other countries have other amounts)

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@tylertringas | 5yr

Thanks folks! Super helpful.

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@freedomsurfer | 5yr

Your best bet is to apply for the Dutch-American friendship visa. That will grant you residency in the Netherlands and you will be able to live there for as long as you want (it is renewable).

http://www.expatlaw.nl/dutch_american_friendship_treaty.htm

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@jde | 5yr

Awesome link. If you use this to get residency in the NL does this let you also stay in other countries in the EU as long as you want?

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@gigigriffis | 5yr

From what I understand, Germany is the easiest place to get a self-employment visa as an American (and you can apply in-country, which isnโ€™t the case with most of Europe). France, Italy, and most other countries also offer freelancer visas, but for the most part youโ€™ll have to apply from the states.

Most long-stay visas require proof of income from outside their country (amounts vary, with Switzerland being at the high end and requiring you to show about $100 per day that you plan to spend there and places like Malta being on the lower end and requiring less than $20k proof for the year). They also usually require proof of health insurance that covers you in their country, proof of a place to live (though a letter from a friend with a spare room should suffice in most cases), and usually a letter or application explaining why you want to stay there. If you get a long-stay visa, a lot of countries also require that you are there at least 6 months of the year.

Aside from Germany, Malta allows you to apply in person in country. And places like Germany will give you a temporary permission to stay while youโ€™re waiting for your visa. You can read about the German process at the Travels of Adam blog.

I have residency in Switzerland, myself, and itโ€™s been an excellent way to stay in Europe, but it can get tricky making sure you spend enough time in your residence country vs. elsewhere. For that reason, I may have to give up my residency next year to spend some time in South America.

My favorite resource (for all the visa regs pretty much everywhere) is a book called Getting Out: Your Guide to Leaving America.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

Apparently Italy has a freelancer visa, but Iโ€™m not sure how it works. Schengen is a pain but I generally just country hop in and out to stay long-term in Europe.

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How does Ireland tourist visa length and recurrence work?


in Ireland by @nrgetik | 4mo 3 months ago | 2 comments

Iโ€™m planning a stint in Ireland and Iโ€™m wondering about the 90-day tourist visa. Official information just mentions the 90-day limit without elaboration. Is it akin to Schengen where itโ€™s counted against the most recent 180-day period? Iโ€™m asking because I might like to take trips to the continent flying out of Dublin, but I donโ€™t know how I should account for the days Iโ€™m gone if I do that. Do I stop the 90-day clock for Ireland while Iโ€™m away, or should I make sure Iโ€™m gone from Ireland <= 90 days after my initial arrival date, regardless of where else I go during that interval, just to be safe? What have others done?

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What investment options are open to e-resident?


by @64tankman | 6mo 5 months ago | 1 comment

I know from experience that if you have residential status in countries where IG (a broker) serves, you can buy stocks and other assets through this broker. But I wonder what doors to the stock market, asset market or broker can be unlocked with e-residency? Some banks open a terminal for customers to buy assets overseas too, is one of the e-residency friendly bank offering a good portfolio of assets to invest in?

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Is it easy to renew your tourist visa for 6 months in Colombia?


in Colombia by @julien | 7mo 7 months ago | 1 comment

Hello everyone,
I will come to live in Colombia for one year.
What is the best solution with the Visa?
I thought to have a Visa for tourists for 3 months and renewal the visa for 6 months. Is that hard to renewal a tourist Visa in Colombia?
Thank you for your help.
Best,
Julien

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How do I ensure that getting refused entry to the UK won't keep me from getting an Australian 462 (work and holiday) visa?


in Australia by @allisonkirschbaum | 1yr 1 year ago | 0 comments

On New Yearโ€™s Day this year, I was refused entry to the UK due to not having proof of funds, an outward-bound plane ticket (I was road-tripping out with a friend via car) and not being able to prove that I had indeed canceled the lease on the apartment I had leased during a prior recent trip.

I havenโ€™t had any entry issues to any of the several countries Iโ€™ve visited after, but now Iโ€™m applying for a 462 visa (work and holiday) visa in Australia, and since Australia and the UK share an immigration info system, I want to make sure getting refused entry wonโ€™t keep me from getting a visa. None of the issues that cropped up in the UK (the proof of funds, the plane ticket, and the apartment) will be an issue in Australia, as Iโ€™ve never traveled there before, donโ€™t know anyone and will have proof of more than sufficient funds for the trip and an outbound plane ticket.

Anybody have any suggestions on how to make the approval process go as smoothly as possible?

Many thanks in advance! :smiley:

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Andorra as a break from the schengen?


in Andorra by @gigigriffis | 2yr 2 years ago | 1 comment

Nomads who bounce around Europe: Has anyone tried to use Andorra as their non-schengen time? Iโ€™ve read that you donโ€™t get a stamp at the border, so Iโ€™m guessing if you wanted to do this youโ€™d need to go to a govt office for a stamp? Is this even possible? If youโ€™ve done this, would love to hear your experience!

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Australians CAN spend more than 90 days in Schengen countries


in Australia by @uncompromise | 2yr 2 years ago | 4 comments

The Australian government apparently has bilateral agreements with a number of signatories to the Schengen Visa treaty that predate, and supersede, the standard 90/180 for traveling in the Schengen zone.

This Wikipedia article stipulates to the bilateral visa agreements:

According to this article, and some of the links Iโ€™ve followed to official documents, Australians are (potentially) permitted to travel within Schengen, and not have their stay in the following countries aggregate up to the 90/180, but be treated as separate periods, with the time permitted under the existing bilateral agreements.

Countries that appear to have bilateral agreements include:

  • Austria
  • Belgium
  • Denmark
  • Finland
  • France
  • Germany
  • Iceland
  • Italy
  • Luxembourg
  • Netherlands
  • Spain
  • Norway
  • Sweden

In theory, this would permit an Australian passport holder to move relatively unrestricted around the Schengen zone for an almost infinite period.

For example, if I am permitted to be in Germany for 90/180, external to the Schengen treaty, I could, in theory, spend 90 days here, exit to Austria on the train, spend another 90/180, exit to The Netherlands by train, spend another 90/180, and then return to Germany, where my 180 days would have reset.

If youโ€™re an Aussie, and have been traveling in Europe without any formal visa documentation, other than your passport, Iโ€™d love to hear from you. Iโ€™m attempting to plan out the balance of my time in Europe, and donโ€™t want to fall foul with any officials. Getting a black mark on my passport would be highly undesirable.

Thanks in advance for your support

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Getting a Russian Visa while traveling


in Russia by @shaulsolomon | 2yr 2 years ago | 1 comment

I am an English/American currently in Israel, and heading in a week to Georgia/Armenia for two weeks and then want to head to Russia for a week.
As I am only in Israel for another week, would it be possible to apply for the visa in Israel and ask to receive it in Armenia (my last stop before I want to go to Russia)?
Or perhaps there is another better option that I have available?

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Can I enter Thailand on a tourist visa and obtain an education visa there?


in Thailand by @hydrofog | 3yr 2 years ago | 7 comments

As an American Citizen, would it be safe to fly into Thailand without a visa? You can get a 30 day upon entry right?

The reason I ask is, Iโ€™m in the process of getting my passport. Iโ€™d like to leave basically as soon as my passport arrives in the mail. Iโ€™m unable to apply for a Thai Visa until I have my passport, so that would require an even longer wait.

Would I be able to fly into Thailand with no visa, then get a 30 day entry, then apply for an education visa while inside the country? Once I go, Iโ€™d like to not have to return to the US. I donโ€™t mind if I have to take a bus/flight to a neighboring country for however long if I must leave while I wait for an education visa.

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Recommendations on where to go (no Schengen)


by @jaunis | 3yr 2 years ago | 4 comments

Hello everyone! This is Juan from Argentina.

I am currently based in Cluj (Romania) and looking for options once my tourist visa runs out of days, the Schengen area is not an option due to the same reason. My current options are either the Balkans (Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia), Bulgaria, Turkey or Southeast Asia (Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia). Timeframe: between JAN/FEB18 to MAR/APR18.

The criteria would include:

  • Rent below or around 600 EUR / mo
  • Reliable and fast internet connection
  • Safe
  • Gay friendly

By โ€œgay friendlyโ€ I mean that you can have a personal/romantic/sexual life without fearing for your personal safety.

Thoughts?
PS. My โ€œgo toโ€ websites for deciding stuff like this are Numbeo and Nomadlist, if you got any other data aggregator alike please let me know! :smiley:

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How to get US visa outside home country?


by @ibobriakov | 3yr 2 years ago | 6 comments

Hi guys!
Iโ€™m originally from Ukraine and now traveling through SEA.
And I was thinking about potential possibility to apply for US visa in any of South East Asian countries.
Does anyone has successful experience of getting US visa in SEA region?
Or maybe it is not possible and I have to apply from my home country?
(for example, friend of mine from Ukraine tried to apply for South Korean visa in Bangkok, but they refused to do so and asked him to apply for the visa from Ukraine)

Thanks in advance!

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Urgent Advice Needed About Visa to Travel and Stay in Sharm El Sheikh


by @ryanuk | 3yr 2 years ago | 0 comments

Hello Everyone,

I am new to this forum. I thought I would just dive in.

I am travelling with my wife and my young daughter, so as you can imagine it adds a bit more to my planning.

I am looking to stay in Sharm El Sheikh in Egypt for a while. I am a Brit, and I need to sanity check some information that I have received.

My initial plan to stay in Sharm was as a British citizen get a multi entry visa which would give me 90 days and take it from there. However, I have been told by someone the following and if it is true it would be the best news for me:

To stay in Egypt you can get a 28 Day Sinai Visa on arrival. So on day 26 I should go to the Visa office in Sharm and I would be granted a 6 month Visa on application. Apparently it is not multiple entry visa, it is for 6 months and you simply renew it a few days before it expires. You can do this twice before you MAY have to leave the country. In other words you can stay a whole year hassle free!

Is this true? I really need to know as this is very important for me.

If anyone knows, or if you know someone who may know, your advice would be really welcome.

Thank you.

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Extending Thai visa immediately after entering possible?


by @gonchs | 3yr 3 years ago | 3 comments

I tried googling this for hours without success.

If I enter Thailand on single entry 60-day visa, can I extend it for +30 days (for a total of 90 days) IMMEDIATELY the next day after the entry?

E.g. entering on Aug 1 and extending it on Aug 2. Have anyone done this?

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Has anyone done the Non O Ed Visa in Hand to Hand Combat in Chiang Mai?


in Chiang Mai, Thailand by @artofbryce | 3yr 3 years ago | 4 comments

Weโ€™re headed to Chiang Mai in July looking at our options for visas and came across this: http://www.cmlocals.com/1-year-ed-visa-hand-to-hand-combat/

Has anyone done it?

It looks amazing and beneficial for many reasons, but Iโ€™m a little skeptical without being able to read external reviews or hear of experiences from people whoโ€™ve successfully done it.

Thoughts and other options are appreciated!

p.s. right now we have a one-way ticket and are wanting to keep our options open to stay longer if we love it (which weโ€™re anticipating)

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After extending a Philippines tourist visa, can you leave the country and come back in on that visa?


in Philippines by @kaizenpreneur | 3yr 3 years ago | 3 comments

Hello,

Iโ€™m in the Philippines currently on a the standard 30 day tourist visa. Iโ€™m planning on spending an extended period of time here with the odd joint here and there around S.E.Asia.

I am aware that you can now extend your visa in 60 day blocks without leaving the country. However, if i were to extend it by 60 days and then decide I want to leave for a few days to another country.

Would exiting the country then null and void that visa and when I return I would start again on the 30-day tourist visa. Or does it allow multi-entry?

Just trying to work out whether it is worth paying for the extension or itโ€™s better to try and fit any trips out within the 30 day periods that I get.

One side point is that I am interested in getting the photo ID card which I believe you get after a couple of extensions which may allow me to open a local bank account.

It would be great to hear from anyone in a similar position as this or who has experience with this.

Thanks in advance

Jon

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What are the nomad hotspots in Eastern Europe (outside Schengen)?

 

by @emondpph | 3yr 3 years ago | 43 comments

Hi everybody,

In august my Schengen tourist visa will be over. I would like to go 3 months in Eastern Europe, but it needs to be outside of the Schengen area. I would have loved to go to Budapest but because itโ€™s Schengen I canโ€™tโ€ฆ

Frankly, I donโ€™t know Eastern Europe that well. What are the best spots for Digital nomad in this region ? Also, I need a cool co-working space, I donโ€™t like working from my house.

Thanks !

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Does the 90 day Schengen rule apply inside of Croatia?


in Croatia by @larry_oz | 3yr 3 years ago | 11 comments

Hi all, need some help with schengen fuzzinessโ€ฆ Iโ€™m a US citizen.

Does any know if the 90 day rule applies inside of Croatia. Iโ€™m seeing that Croatia isnโ€™t part of schengen but adopts the same visa aquis. This isnโ€™t clear to me.

If someone has a definitive answer please let me know as Iโ€™m approaching the 90 day rule in my travel plans and I want to hit Croatia and not have it count.

Thanks in advance.

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Has anyone registered a company in Japan as a means to acquiring a visa?


in Japan by @kko | 3yr 3 years ago | 1 comment

Iโ€™ve done reading on this topic but wanted to see if anyone actually had experience doing something like this personally. Iโ€™m thinking of setting up a GK (Godo Kaisha), which is equivalent to an LLC, as a branch of my Delaware-registered corporation for my startup, and granting myself a work visa through this new entity so that I can stay in Japan long-term.

Iโ€™m curious about how long the process can take, what the lawyer fees might look like, and what obligations one has post-incorporation. Thanks in advance!

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Is a 4G sim device in addition to phone advisable in SE Asia?


by @anderkd | 3yr 3 years ago | 4 comments

Iโ€™m planning a visit to Chiang Mai and Bali starting in April. I have a Google Nexus which has worked flawlessly in Mexico at least. Assuming it will work just as well in CM and Bali? If I decide not to work in a coworking space, but rather Airbnb w/wifi and/or Coffee shops wifi, would a dedicated 4g sim card device be worth spening $75 USD to purchase, plus local sim, plus potential SIM hassle, or just rely on Nexus hotspot + airbnb and coffee shop Wifi?

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Which country is the easiest to get a Self Employed Visa?


by @msurocks99 | 4yr 3 years ago | 4 comments

Dear Digital Nomads,

I am looking for a place where I can get easily a Digital Nomad visa i.e Self Employed VISA

  • Can be any place of the earth, No choice of continents
  • Comparatively decent living costs
  • Less paper work and faster processing
  • Less bank balance requirements, less complicity

Please share with me the locations you prefer for living as a Self- Employed Base. I am from South Asia(Bangladesh), thatโ€™s why Its tough for me to get Visaโ€™s generally for travelling.

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Age-old question... If you live in Thailand, what visa do you have?


in Thailand by @natalie1 | 4yr 3 years ago | 7 comments

Hola, nomads! I am currently living in sleepy Ajijc, Mexico, and love having my easy 6 month tourist visa. However, Iโ€™ve stayed in Chaing Mai before and my heart is pulling me there again. Yet Iโ€™m daunted by the headache of visa runs. Iโ€™m American, so it looks like my options are that I can get a 6 month Multiple Entry visa, which does require me to leave every 60 days.
Does that mean I just cross borders via land and Iโ€™ll be good for another 60 days? The websites Iโ€™ve seen havenโ€™t been very clear.
Also, it looks like you need a minimum of $7,000 USD in the bank to get that visa. I donโ€™t have that, though I could do a cash transfer to my bank account from my credit card for a month to show it. How many bank statements do I need to show thereโ€™s $7,000 in my account?
Also, can I apply for the Multiple Entry from Thailand or only outside of it?
What visas do you use if youโ€™re there longer term?
I also looked into the Student visa, but the school I looked at required 8 hours a week of class. I work too much to do that.
My understanding is that if you are there, you can get a 2 month visa (possibly called the Single Entry visa), then have to fly out and come back from an international airport, and you can get another month, then do an extension for one more, then fly again. Am I correct? If so, that is a lot of traveling and extensionsโ€ฆ
Insight is appreciated!!

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