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I think it is important to remember that no one has an obligation to care no matter how much you would like them too.
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Oh I agree, you don't need to maximize your meat consumption. I am not sure I would recommend that either.
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fazfygeeuadpwpywb ain’t that the truth. It always makes it easier to direct energy elsewhere when they readily identify themselves 😉
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very aware of the limited ability we have to change peoples minds. Again why I think a passive, just do it for yourself first approach is best
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I know I'm trolling, and apologies for that I guess, but I don't think I'd get a very good reaction if I was up front about my thoughts here.
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I’m quite selfish in that sense. I don’t really care about the future because I know I’ll be fine and I’ll be dead when things get too fucked up. Even if I have kids they will be fine, and so will my grandkids. What about my great great grandkids? Da fuq should I care about them, I don’t even know them. But anyway I barely eat any meat, I’m very careful about waste and avoid creating unnecessary garbage, and it’s not something I have to put effort into, it’s just a matter of habits. When it comes to your diet, I really done get what’s so delicious about meat, when there are soooo many incredibly delicious vegetarian dishes. Cheese though... I know for sure I can’t be vegan.
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tiunfdmoq no worries, I don’t take it personally. I also understand the fear of rejection, but there are quite a few very reasonable people here
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Okay yeah so I guess I do understand how meat eaters feel about giving up meat now that I think of how addicted I am to cheese
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It's not a fear of rejection. It's that I pick my arguments. I know where they're welcome and where they're not!
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haha cheese is always the last holdout
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fywdbpubl ah, well I’m sorry you feel they wouldn’t be welcome. I hope I did not contribute to that. I’m not one to think shaming is an effective tactic
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wgkyfzsvsy interesting. That’s a bit of a unique position to be vegan and also not very concerned about the future, but I appreciate the candor.
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gbwhculxz ah, well I’m sorry you feel they wouldn’t be welcome. I hope I did not contribute to that. I’m not one to think shaming is an effective tactic
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same reason why I can't be vegan. CHEESE
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I think it's easy for this group (and honestly most of my circles - progressive, techie types) to get caught up in an urban mindset. We see an echo chamber of progressive, Twitter-esque, idealistic perspectives and forget that the vast majority of the world is rural, conservative, and doesn't really care about our idealistic hopes of the future.
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jrkvalmdpoppnbbz cheese seems to be making pretty good progress in the vegan realm comparatively, but I don’t think it will ever match the thousands of years and choices that the real stuff offers
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xoxhfvmvy 100% and most people can't even afford to be idealistic, they have mouths to feed
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idealism is a luxury of the wealthy city elite
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hence Yellow Vest protests in France
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uwqtoiujt bigxtcxqhk definitely. we should always be aware of our privilege.
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altho the concept of privilege itself also comes from the wealthy city elite
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I gave up eating meat 2 years ago. I keep saying that I'll enjoy meat every once in awhile but I find I keep opting to not eat meat. I love steak but it can be a bit of lazy thinking since so many flavors are out there that are not meat.
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A rural person again doesn't care he has mouths to feed
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oyshkxjpllmwdyal that awesome! and IMO, I never really enjoyed a steak on it’s own anyways (I know many don’t agree)
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This is why I usually shut my mouth here I love grilling meat. I love guns. I am a capitalist. I don't like government. BUT At the same time, I pay my taxes, I respect gun laws, and I try to be as charitable and sustainable as is reasonable in my world.
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wealthy city elite with their tech jobs has never been more disconnected from the majority of the people
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plants are how we flavor most of our meats
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hence u get populist leaders in power
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Yeah, if you had to hunt your own food, meat would have to be an option if you have mouths to feed
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kzodzbrzg i feel there's a new political leaning of liberal progressive that loves meat and shoots guns coming up via Joe Rogan haha
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cbscgmvxx I hear you. People are close-minded on all sides and it just leads to further divide and less progress
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Joe Rogan said that when he saw how we treat animals he would either become a vegetarian or hunt his own food. He chose to hunt. I respect his decision
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djgyefluag Full circle leftism! I just want to be my great-grandfather, minus the casual racism.
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I will start a fire with this maybe, but one of my fears about veganism is health. The claim is that the only missing nutrient is B12 but there are several other nutrients that only come from meat that while the effects might not be immediately visible like B12 deficiency most of the nutrients are almost all related to mental health. There has been at least 10 studies now that have shown that vegan/vegetarianism have higher level of mental health issues and the argument is that they just care more and are therefore more depressed but that is as much correlation as the cancer studies.

Also recently a study came out that related carnite metabolism to autism. The only thing that scares me more than cancer is Alzheimer.
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fbvaprkkkwuqtwlx yea but what I don’t respect about him is he shits on people wo make the other choice and makes very poor and invalid arguments to defend his point
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ntgkpdsok and I know the sentiment, easier to stfu online nowadays than show your true colours
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oh I have my issues with him for sure
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if Joe Rogan is close minded about one thing - it’s diet
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mbfuvrxlkvnlwbwcl literally had this dicussion today in another chat, and yes vegans do miss lots of nutrients but saying that will cause a shitstorm haha
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just pointing out an interesting view
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kosumkbes healthy wild elk/deer meat with green vegetables 😀
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I think the secret of meat will come out that farm meat causes the cancer, wild/organic meat doesn't
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But no data on that so far I think
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And obviously any processed meat is bad, sausages, bacon etc
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You can't in reality be an organic vegan, it is not really possible you have to trust science. Almost all organic vegetables are grown in fertilizer that leverage bone meal and blood meal from slaughter houses.
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It is mostly that high protein raises IGF-1 which stops the immune system recognizing pre-cancerous cells and killing them. High sugar does too. Fasting is a way to neutralize that.
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I also think our meat ratio consumption has increased along with income and general quality of life in the West. Now we can eat red meat every single meal, even a couple generations ago it was much harder to consume at the volume we do.
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I cannot go without animal protein for long and I know some people with the same issue

So I just tune out the "give up meat" people
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So intermittent fasting + wild/game/organic meat would be the answer
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bkonynqmxa Inuit (eskimos) have diets of almost exclusively meat and they don't have higher levels of cancer. In fact some of the first studies showed them having lower levels and they called it the eskimo paradox. Now it doesn't really work because they are eating McDonalds and stuff.
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Wow insane
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So I tried to find a place I can order an entire organic cow
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not sure if wild/game, but grassfed is better than regular, but it might be some regular to turn out better than none.
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And there's some sites
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Usually you order half a cow and you have meat for the year
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me at airport with backpack full of cow meat
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Growing up, my parents used to buy a quarter cow from a local farm. It would last us 3-4 months.
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That'd be my dream
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And good air quality
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It's pretty easy if you're in a rural area. Very hard & expensive in an urban area.
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Yep
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emxkrmlpv Creatine, Carnosine, DHA, Heme Iron, Taurine. Also much level lower levels of iron and choline.
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kjmbjumcdsxhmmpns the eskimo studies constantly seem to be sited as an example of a healthy all-meat diet. It’s quite the opposite. They died sooner than surrounding communities >https://nutritionfacts.org/2018/07/12/the-eskimo-myth/>
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There is an interesting doc on meat consumption/lab grown/plant based on Netflix right now. The Explained series
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will speak to this tomorrow. Need to sleep 💤
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They mentioned that if the world ate meat like Americans we would need four earths
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yip
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meat eating aside, the first world needs to serisouly rethink it’s consumption levels
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but it’s all tied into human psychology etc. so that’s a whole can of worms
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Documentaries have to be biased to be interesting, some outright lie.
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Oh god how much must I scroll...
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Save me nomad jesus
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I saw nomad Jesus at Disney in Shanghai. He had long brown hair and a compass and map tattoo on his arm. True story.
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yjscurelg In terms of the eskimos, that makes sense because of limited nutrition, but to this day outside of cancers related to smoking, they have lower levels of different cancers across the board. So while yes a pure meat diet is definitely not recommended it still throws some wrench into the theory that meat is inherently carcinogenic. Though this is not entirely surprising as the meat cancer studies most likely are showing the correlation of processed food and cancer as people who eat meat tend to also eat more processed meat.
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I saw nomad Jesus in Bali once, but he went by the mononymic "Kiva". Like Prince or Madonna, I guess. He also wouldn't say where he was traveling to/from cause "it didn't really matter"
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That was the turning point from hostel to hotel for me.
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The mythology begins.
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We should all turn breatharian, that’s the way to go
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kumrqbqrod oh god. That shit still boggles my mind. And the belief is way more common than I am comfortable knowing
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Those videos with stunned “scientists” performing studies on breatharians are hilarious
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I'm all for breathing. That's Job #1. Does that make me breathertarian?
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2nd #3 and agree #4
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I'd prefer if everyone here breaths less, we have limited oxygen left. Thank you for helping the cause 🙏 namaste!!!
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feature request (cc U02HTASB2) import flights from tripit (not sure if i'm the only one tracking all my travel there)
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I don’t need to read the article to know that the secret is in making school kids clean the classroom at the end of the school day, every day
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Is there a specific channel for Canary Islands or is that within #spain?
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Whew this vegan thread was a doozie.
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Appreciate you jjpsfonpu sticking up for yourself when it seems like you had a lot of people pushing back on you!
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Also, the way you defended veganism etc. without getting into shaming.
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I’ll throw in more firewood into the vegan debate.

I’ve been a vegan for 2 years in the past. I was very strict and never cheated. I ate somewhat well. Not like chips and junk food. I ate good food. Vegetables and grains and legumes and fruit.

That diet ruined my health. My B12 was super low. My iron dropped to borderline anemic levels. I was skinny and pale people thought I was either on drugs or sick.

That was over 10 years ago.

Since then I experimented with many different diets. I’m fascinated by nutrition and diets. I like to try new, and sometimes extreme things.

I once ate every half hour on internal by actual timer. Not only that but I had to rotate macronutrients. So one meal was predominantly fats, then proteins, then carbs. I even went clubbing with my own foods supplies. Had to smuggle that in. I’m just telling you this to show the ridiculous length I went to to maintain accuracy of my experiments.

My last, and I’d say most successful experiment is ... carnivore diet.

Last December I switched to eating exclusively beef for 6 weeks. No other food sources. It’s called an elimination diet. First eliminate everything except beef. Then introduce other foods one by one and observe body reaction.

I felt best on beef only.

Hunger went away completely. I could not eat till 6pm and be fine.

I ate without counting macros and lost weight. And I wasn’t even overweight. It was mostly stubborn fat.

My concentration was great. I could focus on tasks much better and think more clearly. Especially in fasted state, which was easier than before.

I was energetic and moved a lot.

Anyways. It’s all subjective of course. I have no way to measure these things, except personal observations.

But that’s my $0.02.

As for introducing foods back. I feel like dairy is definitely having a negative impact. But I’m still eating cheese. It’s too good.
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why would you eliminate anything but beef?
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seems like an odd item to isolate
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Beef is considered to be the least allergic food for humans
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also, why didn’t you take B12 and Iron supplements?
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interesting do you have some information on that?
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See, I'm the exact opposite. I feel fantastic being fully vegetarian/vegan with little soy and cheap oils.

B12 is solvable. Don't wash fresh fruits/veggies as much, and take supplement. You might have actually felt low on account of that and other missing nutrients
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Just use a cast iron skillet
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> also, why didn’t you take B12 and Iron supplements?

No because I figured if the diet is healthy then I don’t need to supplement.
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A friend of mine has Crohn’s disease but on the carnivore diet he has no symptoms (takes no medication)
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> interesting do you have some information on that?

Not at the moment. But I think I’ve heard / read from Tim Ferris about it.
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you made such a drastic change to your diet without research?
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> See, I'm the exact opposite. I feel fantastic being fully vegetarian/vegan with little soy and cheap oils.

And that was kinda my point. Everyone is different. My wife also doesn’t like meat too much and feels fine eating mostly veg
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> you made such a drastic change to your diet without research?

Yup why not? I like to experiment.
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I don’t think cwrvohkw is the first to attempt this diet 😂
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There are people who eat 100% seal based diet and they are fine. 100% beef seems fine in comparison. And it’s only 6 weeks. Can’t be that bad.
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I have a friend who had major digestive issues all his life. He’s tried so many diets too. And got fixed 100% by going carnivore.
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There’s some evidence that it might make your intestine less permeable if you eat only meat for some time. So that after a few weeks your overall digestion improves as fewer toxins leak into the blood stream
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who eats 100% seal?
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You guys have seen Peterson’s talk about his daughters condition before and after going carnivore right?
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Some Inuits eat/ate seals only.
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I know seals are a major part of the diet - I wasn’t aware they eat ONLY seals, though
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There are also some tribes somewhere (forget where now) that eat maggots and palm exclusively and they are also fine 😀
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Not all Inuits eat exclusively seals.
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do you have any sources for this?
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Most eat SAD nowadays
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I also don’t know that relying on the extreme margins of the world to justify or define your behavior is a prudent approach
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It's not so easy to be nutrition complete being vegan, just eating whatever happens to be vegan. Supplements are important if you're not keeping in mind your nutrients day by day, and there's lots of side effects....

I also think it's really important for omnivores not to transition to vegan immediately... But instead over time, and eat lots of raw vegetables that haven't been through the helicopter mom sanitary cycle for awhile beforehand. For some reason, gut flora seems to be the least of anyone's concern, even though that's how we digest all our food
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That's my take, FWIW
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I’m not a vegetarian/vegan, so not being defensive, just want some info on some of the more extreme claims being made
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yeah, I'm just chiming in ~factoids~ beliefs... Apologies if it came off defensive

For what it's worth, I'm a mostly vegetarian omnivore now
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I wasn’t referring to your statements ggdtypirpchtrm
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😆
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> I also don’t know that relying on the extreme margins of the world to justify or define your behavior is a prudent approach

It’s neither justification nor definition. It’s a personal experiment. Don’t see anything prudent about it.
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stop being defensive about being defensive
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I am an omnivore, because that is what the monkeys are
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monkeys also fling shit at eat other
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Bad habit 😄
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and rape
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Okay 🤷‍♂️
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best answer kfszbkmo 🙂
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I’m not arguing against your dietary choices or personal decisions
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I’ve just read some interesting claims and justifications for things that, to me, don’t follow logically
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I need to start adding /s on my posts
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Carnivore diet is definitely a niche diet, but there’s still thousands of people on it. World’s a big place
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I knew someone who ate only seaweed
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he was a crazy person
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To be honest, I don’t feel carnivore diet is any more extreme than a vegan diet. Vegan diet has this aura of good around it. But it’s also unscientific and has many flaws.
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E.g. during harvest many animals die. To grow grains we kill forests where other animals live. During olive harvest shit loads of birds die. Etc etc.
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Many insects get killed by various repellents. Insects are living things too.
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There’s no perfect diet.
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let me reiterate, again, I don’t take issue with your diet, or anyone’s diet at all
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Pick your poison.
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I understand.
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I don’t think you have an issue with my diet.
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are you a vegan for political reasons qoldwhcjtsdvid
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In part... But it also came very naturally to me. My mother fed me 5/7 meals vegetarian when I was growing up, and I chose vegetarian for much of my adult life, going back and forth between vegan and omnivore depending on circumstances
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But I've been mostly vegetarian (with small bits of eggs, milk, seafood) most of my life. Vegan is easy to switch to when you're at that point, have disposable income and quality stores. Omnivore also is easy to switch into when you eat just small portions of meat 1-3 times a week
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egwqdpsinx could we have a _food or _diet channel perhaps?
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We have a #_food and #_fitness channel. Wishes granted 😉
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hbxetxw there is one
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Could this discussion be moved there perhaps?
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It has been about vegan/vegetarian things for three days straight 😅
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You're welcome to derail it with another topic 😄
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I believe general is given wide berth, for better or worse
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but yes, I do agree this belongs in the food or fitness channel
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or even politics for that matter
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We just need some cat pictures to complete it
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🐱
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The common story with the carnivore diet seems to be that it’s discovered as an ailment for a health problem
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it’s pretty boring as the flavors you can eat are highly restricted
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My friend with Crohn’s can’t even put pepper on his steak, only salt works
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But what happens when you go wild at the fat duck.
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Or at quintonil?
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what in the world
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Uh. Duck. The fat duck
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pbhaosyzrh really did change the topic
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guess we’re not talking about veganism anymore
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I was talking about high end restaurants
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although we are talking about consuming meat
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sure, sure, sure
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Ha.
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Like an overcooked steak, the portion size always sounds amazing until you see it in person
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Then you’re like “wait, *thats* 500g?”
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This is why I don’t understand imperial properly
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Let’s blame.... Heston?
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Wait.. I have some questions now about Veganism and certain common adult situations
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There must be a guidebook for this
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The answer is.. it’s permissible! Provided it’s freely given. Except when it’s not permissible. Because quora can’t make up its mind
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Does that mean milk is vegan as long as the cow consents?
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They say human milk is permissible
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Because you can get consent
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But cow milk, the cow is exploited and can’t consent
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Moo for consent, Bessy
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So human milk and semen are apparently ok. Which does make sense, it’s not exploitative and is consensual
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This is what the internet’s tell me
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No? No cheese today. Cheese day is off!
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So all we need to do is develop a bovine translation device and selectively breed for generosity
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And intelligence, I guess
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Then, they take over the world. Might be a better place, if we're honest 🐄
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I'll tell you, free range cows dine in some of the most beautiful places
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What a wonderful place this slack is. A true exchange of ideas.
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Idaho has remote cow steering you know
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STEERing
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Seems like the best way to castrate a bull is, indeed, from a distance
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I like the notion of vegans squatting in gardens eating delicious vegetables straight from the ground.. just a quick brush off and eat it up.. boom, b12 is solved
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Maybe a real vegan restaurant should just be at a garden, no fucking around
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Not that easy, sadly
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Vitamin deficiency as a vegan is a serious issue. Lethargy, odd food cravings that are unresolved, things happening to your skin/hair, odd pee or stool... is common if you're not managing it correctly
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Anyone who's like "oh but our ancient ancestors ate X".... Well, their life expectancy was 30 or so, just enough to survive rearing a child. Vegan, carnivore, omnivore or not... can't go by that. No matter what diet you chose, eat whole simple nutritious foods, avoid processed foods, and eat well, listen to your body, and make gradual changes. Truly foster the other half of the cells in your body, the bacteria that live in your gut. You'll be happier and healthier.

Easy, right?
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Life expectancy of our ancient ancestors was pretty good if they didn’t encounter any medical issues though.. it’s not like we’re eating healthier, it’s just that we have doctors to intervene on common medical issues
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Esp pre agriculture/pre-sugar
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vlhwqmoi Sure, I have an easy to follow 2-step program. 1) Convince people to give you money 2) Go to the nearest airport
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Sign up for my advanced class!
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3) go on a watermelon-only diet; I hear it travels well
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Partner with one of those watermelon trucks I see everywhere and distribute watermelon propaganda as you go
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Shhhh don't give away the secret income source of pro nomads
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Pro nomads hate me!
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They shouldn't learn those tricks until at LEAST two years in
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Next you'll be telling them about googling "visa rules" woman-facepalmingskin-tone-2
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Your borders are merely a construct zwxjyfstaxfz
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I'm a citizen of the world
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When you convince the nice border guards with guns of that fact, pls let me know 😂
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I find it best to argue with them on the way _out_
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The other hack is to get married to someone from each country #lifegoals
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Most recent favorite border crossing was on the train into Azerbaijan, where a stern man with a gun held up a piece of paper with "ARMENIA?" scrawled across it, then demanded to go through my luggage, then encountered lady undergarments and blushed like a schoolboy and immediately left me alone woman-shruggingskin-tone-2
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Oooh yep that's a pro tip right there
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That's why I always pack my lady undergarments on the top of the bag
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How was Azerbaijan tho!?
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Liked it a lot -- not much infrastucture so getting around outside Baku is a challenge, but there's a lot to see if you make the effort and Baku is a nice city
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Haha cgnnbwgrasyw I did exactly that about 5 months ago
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Got asked if I'd ever been to Armenia
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I said yep
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Seemed largely an act to make a point
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hahaha and they still let you in?!
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Yeah I'm a tourist
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Like... that'd be over the top
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yeah fair
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You can only not go, if you have specifically been to some conflict territories
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Yep
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Is "have you?" the wrong answer?
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I might have even had some Armenian money on me 😕
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How about "haven't we all..." with a deep sigh?
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Hahaha
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Haha bascially that's what they'd like to hear
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They'd be happy if you said "Yes, it was a total shit hole - never go there"
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In reality it's lovely
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Well, parts of it
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Yeah I feel like that would get you a red carpet welcome
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The populace of Azer are led to believe that Armenians are all savages living in absolute poverty
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oof yeah, the propaganda is strong
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Reminds me of how Serbians view Albania
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When were you there?
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And every time I encounter that sort of reaction my immediate response is "oh cool I should definitely go there next"
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I was staying in Tbilisi, and headed over to both during my time there
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I was in Tbilisi in March and Azer in April-May
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Ah gotcha. I was June, so just passed each other
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ships in the night ⛵️
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ha yes
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We all have needs. Mine was to make it with five weirdos and have them scrub my five castles. I gave you all what you wanted and of course I made a few bucks letting Pig watch through the two-way mirror.
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Well, it's official I no longer know when American holidays are. In celebration of that, I will make today Selfsgiving.
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Tbf they always surprised me when I _lived_ in the US as well.

> Why is there no traffic?
> ...Why is nobody in the office?
> ...What's that crazy Google logo?
> ....OH
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Canada’s thanksgiving makes more sense, happens in October.. more time to digest your food before Christmas
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I think that's what those christmas sweaters are for
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I legitimately thought today was Thanksgiving.
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You had me convinced just now!
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Nearly called my family
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Hahaha
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Well, glad you didn't have to do *that* 😛
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So are they, it's almost 3am
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Umm, did you guys know about this? >https://www.wework.com/businessplatinum>
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Yep
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Still not interested tho
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Even if they pay me.
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I'm just now finding out about it.
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I have the card, it's free. I'll milk that mother.
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I'll take ALL the snacks.
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And do a selfsgiving
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I like your style
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Bring my Mac Mini, a Monitor, take up an entire area
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Hook up the Oculus
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If it takes two months to digest your Thanksgiving dinner...you should probably see a doctor about that. 😛
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Should scare lots of people
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Good luck with that Mac Mini + Oculus
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Have you tried it?
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I'd be surprised if that's enough power
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No no. I would hook up the Oculus to my Surface Book 2 + roost stand + second keyboard and mouse.
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So the Mac Mini is just to have something to throw at the wall?
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Just to take up space on their open desks
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with the monitor
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There’s gotta be a consequence to eating two huuuuuge meals within 3-4 weeks of each other 😉
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I would not be surprised the body’s internal weight set point goes up after the first meal and doesn’t get the chance to come back down before the second meal
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it was a very cordial discussion. Always more constructive when nobody takes it personally simple_smile
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because I was confused, I had to actually google
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and apparently thanksgiving is NEXT week
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not this week
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that gives me time to find gravy
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because all I want is mashed potatoes and a pile of gravy
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I did that last year
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and had to lie down
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The last time I _tried_ to do a "thanksgiving" thing abroad the best I could do was a fish dinner.
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Not even close
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Foreigners bought into it tho. They're gonna be confused if they ever see the real thing.
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That reminds me of this interview of five American expats on how they do Thanksgiving in Japan 🙂 >https://www.tofugu.com/japan/thanksgiving-japan/>
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It's funny how much I do not miss T Day food, never a great fan of turkey anything. I'm happy with my chipá and café. Born to be an expat, I guess.

What I do miss almond butter. I don't have my Vitamix with me, otherwise I'd make it myself
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I miss korean food always
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I passed by a korean restaurant like yesterday
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so there is at least one here
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who knows if it's any good
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okay so a quick google got the tripadvisor for the one resto I saw and the one korean person's review says it's not great 😕
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QQ on this, as I’m vegetarian, and don’t feel good, so I’m interested in maybe switching.

• Where do you get good quality beef? Or do you just eat any sort of beef you could find?
• Did you cook it? If so, how? Was it the same every day and did you get bored?
• How much did you eat?
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I had really good Korean in Santiago, hope to find same in Buenos Aires. I don't go out for Korean very much but when I do I'm glad I did
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ooo so the problem with korean food in BA is that the best korean food is kind of in a sketch area
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I can't remember the name of the neighborhood
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but you'll come across this when you start googling
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Good to know
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I'm just a few weeks away from dodging the sketch lol
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and now I'm jelly because now I really want korean food
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and this place that the korean person slammed has a 4.4
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so I have zero faith in korean food in this city now
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I used to make a sort of bulgoki with a marinade of sugar, teriyaki sauce, and black sesame seed
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Not the same of course
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You could steam the veg or throw them in the wok, poach an egg in oil on the side
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people need to stop slinging around the word "authentic" in their tripadvisor reviews
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y'all don't look korean and while it's possible you were adopted or spent a lot of time in korea, chances are you didn't so stoppppppppp itttttttttt
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Need Korean made robots to be the tasters
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unless your grandmother maes kimchi from scratch you're not allowed to use the word "authentic" on a korean restaurant review
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this is the hill I will die on
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It’s a nice hill
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A bit pink though
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If locals go to Starbucks does that make Starbucks an authentic local experience?
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Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday food. I shall be doing it next week.
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Life finds a way.
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Thankfully, Hungary is big on turkey.
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Best part of thanksgiving is Mom’s turkey sandwiches made from leftovers the next day..
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If it’s only dry white meat, the trick is to butter one of the slices of bread and put mayo on the other.. plus a bit of salt and pepper and maybe a juicy slice of tomato..
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I got a mix of beef. Not all of it was high quality. But I locally sourced high quality beef.

The other source of beef was Costco (Canada). I got steaks, ground.

Got some liver too from a butchery.

And from fast foods, on the go, I was eating McDonalds burger patties (confirmed to be 100% Canadian beef). McD is a safe default option and is available everywhere, but usually is pretty dry.

Also Five Guys burger patties. These are super delicious and juicy.

I did cook everything. It got really boring sometimes. I couldn’t eat like this my whole life for sure. Need a mix.

I didn’t measure how much I ate at all. I ate until I was not hungry. Sometimes I could eat a whole steak. Sometimes only half. I let my body dictate.
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Most cooking was grilling steaks.
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I haven't had thanksgiving in 4 years, stop it you guys .. 🤤
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I was going to specify my fave parts of thanksgiving dinner but realized I was listing the whole meal 😅
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And Dads apple pie to finish it off, but luckily he does that at other times of the year too, like Christmas.
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None of that pumpkin pie nonsense get outta here with that crap 😒
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Also average is skewed by high child mortality.
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Pumpkin pie is literally the best. Well, Apple pie is also the best. Anything else at thanksgiving is pointless.
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pumpkin pie is gross
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apple pie is okay
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Pumpkin Pie good, but Apple Pie is better. Rhubarb Pie is best though.
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My parents just happened to be visiting during thxgiving....and boy did we eat...and drink!
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I like a little pumpkin pie with my whip cream.
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yea I used to eat a lot of pumpkin pie, but I have realized in recent years that it’s so fucking boring
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I wish I had eaten more Pecan or something during fall
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................... okay my grandmother's kimchi jars do not talk
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I thought Thanksgiving was the third Thursday of November.
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in the US
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Yes, USA thanksgiving
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Canada it's a different Thanksgiving some weeks earlier
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that's what they were talking about
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Ok, but US Thanksgiving is the 4th Thursday of November. My mom was confused when I told her Happy Thanksgiving.
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I have to look it up all the time
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fourth thursday of november in the US
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i called my parents today
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to talk on thanksgiving
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Well, at least she was confused because she thought it was always on the 22nd 😂
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then i realized it's the 3rd thursday today not the 4th
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it's almost easier to remember now when Black Friday is as that's in your face, then do the math from there 😄
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yeah a month earlier in Canada
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Also the pumpkin pie should be slightly warm from the oven.. that way the ice cream melts way too damn fast and the last third you’re just cramming the damn thing into your mouth before it’s a complete mess
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yea ice cream definitely necessary
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it’s more of a non-pie dessert accessory delivery system
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BTW I had a real American thanksgiving once.. in Indianapolis, land of the large people.. I encountered the most bizarre dish during the main course of the thanksgiving meal...
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Mashed sweet potatoes with roasted marshmallows on top
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Sweet potatoes are already sweet by definition.. marshmallows on top of that? Whyyyyy????!??? 😛
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So good haha
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lszrslkhzkrl that was shared earlier in #_gear 😄
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Awww darn it but also good reminder to pop back into that channel woman-facepalmingskin-tone-2
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Is it anyone here, though?
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Doubt it, just a regular road warrior I imagine
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I’m not a fan of sweet potatoes :see_no_evil:, but I do love marshmallow. add some chocolate on top and that sounds pretty great
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or he lives on a plane
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maybe he is the real pilot
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Hi everyone, I guess I’ll introduce myself in the middle of the pie thread… I just signed on Nomadlist, 24h ago, for the first time. I’ve been following the community (on twitter etc.),  I’m from Switzerland crunching some code remotely here in Thailand Chiang Mai. It’s my second time here. And the best pies are rhubarb, apple and cherries man-shruggingskin-tone-4
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actually the pie thread is over, but I had to connect my Slack account 😬
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A-fuckin-men
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conversation is very fluid here 😂
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PIE THREAD NEVER OVER
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Pie opinions are always welcome 😉
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pie>cake
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… carrot cake is really good though
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mashed potatoes > pie || cake
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Cherry cream cheese cake
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Sometimes called “cherry flip”
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mashed potatoes > pie && cake
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mashed potatoes > (nearly everything thanksgiving related besides mashed potatoes)
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Savory>sweet for this girl too
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"mashed potatoes > pie && cake" compiler error
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is there any proper first order logic way to define what I mean
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in that
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pie and cake have no order over each other
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but mashed potatoes is superior to either/both
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I see, need to convert to the base class Food
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How are potato variations like sweet potato included in that Boolean logic?
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only potato potatoes
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Mashed starches
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nope
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I'm potato racist
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Mashed turnip!!!
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Do we even start with Peru
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it needs to be white on the inside
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Mashed cucumber?
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that's just heresy
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So if savory>sweet then shepherd's pie??
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I mean at the end of the day I'll just take a blue steak
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and gross. Anyone who serves warm cucumber should be fired from the kitchen
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Some people have a gene that makes cucumber really strong in smell/flavor, if you leave sliced cucumber in the fridge everything else gets contaminated
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It’s like cilantro gene but worse
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....with the pie warmed up so the ice cream melts a bit?!?! 🤗
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That sounds awful
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I can always smell cucumber if it's been cut and nearby
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I don't hate it
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but it's def pervasive
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And we're back to food....
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fwiw I have the cilantro gene
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haha life is about food
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I'm just glad to be back in a city where I can get a block of foie
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wvcevgsnsgrc you ever just take a hit right out of the gravy boat? It's liberating!
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I'm being slightly civilized and eating it on crackers this time
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kyilsouxfyavibij cannot tell if you're taking the piss but I 100% have def taken a slurp of straight gravy
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Thanksgiving should be called Thanksgravy
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😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
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Yumgiving
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now I just want a shot of gravy
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dammit
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this should be a thing
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Heinz should sell a squeeze bottle with gravy in it
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I think that's what the whole "bone broth" fad was secretly attempting but they made it too watery
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tbf I'll take a shot o bone broth right now too
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get you on a gravy drip
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but I want to taaaaaaaste it
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drip it into your mouth
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sounds perf
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.
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one of those hats that has a straw coming out of a container. A gravy hat if you will. You don't have to explain yourself
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by a ROUX pls get it straight
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Roux is contaminated by flour troll
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> Roux is flour and fat cooked together and used to thicken sauces. Roux is typically made from equal parts of flour and fat by weight. The flour is added to the melted fat or oil on the stove top, blended until smooth, and cooked to the desired level of brownness.
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Sounds delicious though
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roux is quite useful
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I only recently learned how to make a roux
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definitely helps with making sauces
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Replace "contaminated" with "improved" and I'll fully agree 😂
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Listening to these Norwegian college guys in the locker room talk about how they're excited to have their first Thanksgiving tonight. They're describing food and keep saying "Yeah, it's very American." Not one thing they described was anything remotely close to Thanksgiving food hahaha. It's very amusing.
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I also am very curious as to why they're doing Thanksgiving.
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Do other countries celebrate it?
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It doesn't make a lot of sense outside of the states.
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Canada does it very similar with regional differences
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qjzzytfhdncnek or the bigger country above the states 😉
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I think it was a Native American custom for North America
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I mean in modern times. I had no idea anyone celebrated it outside of America.
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Outside of North America
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Canada has a different day for it in October.
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These guys were talking about American thanksgiving.
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The food is the same though.. except for that sweet potato and marshmallows monstrosity
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Interesting.
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Well, they were describing some very strange things.
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As an American, I was offended
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(Not really)
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What did they mention
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It’s probably tricky to source some of the stuff abroad perhaps
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Duck stuffed with seeds
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And dirt cake
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Lol
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Seeds huh that is weird
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lol seeds
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I don't even . . .
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Probably the equivalent of American "Chinese" food.
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I had no idea. Typical American, thinking everything was our idea.
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Dirt cake is very delicious, but so not Thanksgiving.
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lol wtf is 'dirt cake'
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seems like oreo crumbs + base with whipped cream
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gummy worms possibly included
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usually chocolate pudding, with oreo cookie crumbs
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It's really tasty.
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Canada's is a different day though, right?
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Some stats from new >http://nomadlist.com/dating|nomadlist.com/dating> feature after one month:
handshake 4,342 platonic matches (avg 6 matches per user)
heart 2,649 romantic matches (avg 4 matches per user)
~about 40% likes 60% dislikes

More in #_relationships
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yeah theres heaps of nomad esl teachers
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I was curious about the match feature and what you see as the future of it. I tried it and matched a few people and then it seemed a little bit like "now what?" Seems like the only thing you can do is chat on the slack? Also, only having one pic and its small, no way to click it, and most people don't have descriptions. It's a cool feature to play with, but could be built out into something interesting for sure.
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lsotugskpmjmrans man remote acting teacher sounds like a great idea! You could target YouTubers that are trying to take their game to the next level! $$$$$$$
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Would be nice if the card links to the NL profile
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I’ve been trying this feature, I have the `someone just liked you "Browse matches"` but don’t have any “Mutual Likes” showing. I’m confused is a “liked” not yet a “match” or my list is bugged?
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posnzhe Both users must have liked each other to become a `match`
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Maybe it should say `Browse possible matches…`
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Only fqhupdcnqa can answer that 🙂
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also the button goes to `/matches` which is 301 to `/dating` and that also got me confused a bit…
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Why not both? 🤷‍♂️
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You have the correct opinions on pies. You have passed the test. Welcome to NomadList. 😛
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I’m in Philippines right now and everything is chicken and gravy. It’s amazing. 😋
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Yes. Early October.
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