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If anyone has reputable info about the virus, please share
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hexcyiol Iโ€™ve found the comments on HackerNews to be pretty good
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Only if your infection vector is delivering us that for dinner.
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I just saw a really great map from the GIS -of the CoronaVirus cases around the world and with cases by city/country, recoveries, deaths from Corona Virus etc. I tried to post the link but it wonโ€™t let me - so if your interested - just DM me and I can share the link.
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nyhdrkjhdnhsjzsg can you share the HN link?
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Thanks!
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if it was that contagious and there were people flying from china to - for example - france ... wouldn't some of the other passengers be infected by now? are governments actually checking those other passengers or at least the crew to get some idea of how easily it is spreaded? ๐Ÿค”
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Yup. The UK is reaching out to 4000pax who are in the uk and who travelled from Wuhan
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With Shantou locking down and preventing people _entering_ their city, it seems like we are starting Black Death style blockades. Letโ€™s party like itโ€™s 1599 I guess
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(Source Global Times China.. owner is listed as the Chinese government so I presume anything put out there is legit as itโ€™s a government publication )
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And thereโ€™s a study to impute the R_0 value, but itโ€™s validity is being questioned
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(Which is good... lower is good)
wstjgbebpcqzrwr5h
The mortality rate for the under 50s is still minuscule right?
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Yep. Basically only one death China has acknowledged. Once the infected in other countries recover or die we will have confirmation theyโ€™re not hiding things, but if they are being honest then only one person under 40 has died.
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And the R is supposedly between 2 and 3 based on what Reuters is putting out . If so, and it only kills old people..
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Elderly male diabetics better watch out
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Iโ€™m trying to find a politically acceptable way to suggest that it might have a silver lining and solve the boomer problem
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MAGA supporters ought to be working overtime to stop it hitting Washington
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Unfortunately, I have underlying health conditions so I am at higher risk too, although I survived having bird flu so, fingers crossed (bird flu dx was confirmed by NHS surveillance program during the outbreak) remember those packets we all got in the mail if you had seen a GP with any cold or flu symptoms during that time?
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They processed those things damn fast considering how many were sent out
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Iโ€™m aware from your previous posts here youโ€™d rather people didnโ€™t talk about the situation.
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I just think itโ€™s causing an outsized amount of anxiety
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And itโ€™s kinda dull
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I know myself that Iโ€™m liable to obsess about stuff and thereโ€™s a lot of people who seem to be obsessing here
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And nothing of value added that reading BBC news once a day wouldnโ€™t have provided
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My life has become significantly better since I cut out politics Reddit
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Iโ€™ve even become more zen about Brexit
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Itโ€™s pretty normal for groups of friends to discuss what they see in the news the next day at work or down the pub, so I guess I am feeling like this is the Nomad version of that
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But Iโ€™m glad to hear youโ€™re feeling better post cutting this stuff out
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Pity you missed the reveal that both pro and anti Brexit was run by the lizard people tho :( the visuals were spectacular during the main event.
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Hahaha
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I did apply to work for Dominic Cummings
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Oh god
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No reply
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You poor man
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There are more noble ways to throw away your life. Like alcohol. Or bothering the squirrels at national parks.
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He quoted Eliezer Yudkowsky and I was smitten
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Ah. What pretty young thing hasnโ€™t been lulled by that siren song
qdapunnmb4h
I suggest zen chainsaw juggling.
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Itโ€™s like regular chainsaw juggling. But you breathe more.
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That's good zen
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Looks very nice. Shame about all the water
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I keep toying with the idea of just booking a room at a random Conrad and just hiding for a week from everything. Have them bring me food, massage, and otherwise just totally isolate myself and curl up
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Note this has nothing to do with the current epidemic.. I just want it because it sounds so peaceful and escapist
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Maybe I can sell doing it because of the epidemic tho. Maybe itโ€™s most palatable right now
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I recommend the Conrad Randall
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Rangali
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Seoul Conrad exec lounge prob my fave
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But yeah, if youโ€™ve got $10,000 to burn, Conrad Rangali is a win
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Iโ€™ll peek
sjanreeav4h
I have some free Hilton nights I can cash in at any hotel under their brand umbrella, so maybe Iโ€™ll do this.
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In terms of redemption value, $700/nt is pretty decent
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do we have Corona yet
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&
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pkxfvbhku they can test for it, so I am doubtful of that. Have to remember as well that there are cultural reasons for spread in China as well. Things like covering your mouth while sneezing and washing your hands is not as common there.
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How can they test for it if people are not sick enough to go to the doctor/hospital?
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Screenings. When someone is infected they check everyone that was exposed to them.
idrnmyss56min
What? We arent allowed to edit messages to be dots anymore U02HTASB2? AND you get silenced for 5m??
ebzwfmao55min
Or just in this channel?
syzfeozl53min
hsmrxzycpxfdhcwic So, I am just a regular dude with a minor cough. They're going to come to my home without being called to screen me?
pdgjmzsmeuzrohbx49min
mletbbwpj well no. The point is more if it was that contagious and millions were being infected when they knew someone had it and checked everyone they interacted with and everyone they interacted with, the confirmed cases would be much higher.
ukantmfj46min
Well, that's likely more so for patient zero. I sincerely doubt any government has those type of sources to track down everyone in this contact tree. I am sure it boils down to people who are showing symptoms, which is the point I am making, is that the symptoms are often so weak, not even the host knows they have it.
qbgttkoa45min
Governments and the WHO have quite a lot of resources and information to make pretty good guesses about how it is spreading
etiweufd45min
If anyone has the resources and info required, its them
tknfhymy43min
But first contact points in new countries via air travel would probably be the easiest
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uywjgtzfn they do studies to get an idea of how contagious it is.
qyoaarae33min
I don't really care enough about this overhyped virus to go digging, but I got my info straight from the CDC just a few days ago. So unless they've updated it since then, I'll stand by their analysis
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ozrfhrpvw The CDC said millions could already have it?
nhxyhezhvktr29min
Iโ€™m most concerned about being able to travel out of SEA in 2-3 months
czyotumg28min
They said the amount was unknown and that it was "likely" much more than the total infected due to how weak the symptoms are. I used "millions" because it could be or it could be 100. Who knows? All I know is that this virus isn't anything to be concerned by if the CDC believes the symptoms are too weak for people to even go to the doctor
tqowxytugukfzgbp28min
Anyways, it probably is over hyped, in about 10-15 days with China shutting everything down we will know if it is an international issue or just a China issue. It being a China issue would still be annoying for us DNs as China is a transit hub.
rvnsqffu26min
From that study of the first cohort, a third developed very serious infections and half of those died.
fiaggellnheromwu25min
I usually transit through beijing/shanghai when crossing the pacific, but there are other options like Tokyo etc..
lwttrebjmjlcc24min
Beijing airport is not great
ycgyvlfalnfla24min
The other options are all better
whkvpkynpakdkull24min
I don't think Beijing is great in general to be honest for anything.
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Tickets will be very cheap through China and $$$$ everywhere else
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Duck?
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I have 6 flights through and within China over the next month alone. I've already been sent voucher offers to cancel /reschedule three of them. Curious to see what happens to the other three (two additional RTs to SFO via China).
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ptrwxjubcuxhcr actually, yes, beijing is good for duck. I stand corrected.
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;)
mccshgelymdroqch23min
(Everything) - (pecking duck)
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I didn't know I got married to the Nomad List chat as well
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๐Ÿค”
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For some reason when I went to beijing I thought it would be like Shanghai but larger ๐Ÿ˜ž
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fnnfgaaoqrloj Take the flights, you'll be allowed to laugh at everyone in masks for years
sagaaaqoicsk20min
Haha totally
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rvnyvpcmagjya 6 flights in one month through China, what are you doing?
oatoyadjaroat19min
He must be carrying the package I ordered
bckghiqiowkrgybt19min
We found the super spreader.
byrenedyigpl18min
Hahaha...yeah I'm doing progress checks on two hotels my wife and I are designing/branding...one in Hangzhou, China...one on Jeju Island Korea...
mwboteavijnt18min
It's just hard to avoid flights through China for that
psxdavdqasmz18min
Since we are in Vietnam no
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now
pzbmypnrxg17min
Wow that's awesome ๐Ÿ”ฅ
uxfwqxbpiwnt17min
One of the flights was on China Southern...goes through Wuhan
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