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Ah ok, so it's a baggage space rush, I guess that makes sense
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I've almost always checked except for weekend trips, and I can live out of 15 liters for a surprisingly long time ๐Ÿ˜„
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I have to check bags for my next few flights and I'm already dreading it.
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It's not so bad. I like having less to drag around. I rarely wait more than 10 minutes for bags to come out. That's an acceptable trade off for me
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I worked in the airline industry for years Fielding calls in the legal department about missing and damaged luggage. Now I only check if I am forced to.
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my only incentive on boarding early is that after the first few people, it's a slow and awful shuffle down the jet bridge that makes me want to stab the nearest crying child
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Ideally, I time it so I get to the gate for final call
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Usually there's no wait, everyone is sitting down, and they're ready for push back
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final call I usually still have half a jet bridge of slow slog, how are you so lucky?
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Hmmm, I dunno. I got final call this morning and walked straight on. Though it really works best on long range, WB aircraft, where you have more storage space and people have taken a lot of drugs
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Checking bags... Usually goes quick and smooth. Until it doesn't, and then you're super not happy
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I like to walk off a plane and out the door with as little stopping as possible.
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Yeah I've heard that a lot. I completely understand the perspective, but the only way I can keep traveling perpetually is to be able to carry as much as I want/need. We just have different priorities is all
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I'm pretty minimalist, but my bags still tend to grow over the years. I like the luxury of a few options, and I really do engage in a lot of different activities, which require a larger variety of gear
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My bags have gotten lost a few times, and it always shows up the next day. Anything important is with me anyway. I can (and have) started from scratch in a day or two
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yeah, its all about priorities. i was just explaining why i and probably others board quickly vs waiting until the end.
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yup, thanks. Now I understand it's a baggage space requirement rush, didn't realize it was such a big factor before
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it's better now that many airlines are charging people for carryon bags.
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mostly still just budget airlines? has any major carrier started charging for carry-ons?
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some major carriers now have basic economy fares that don't include a luggage size carryon, just a personal item.
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ah that's right
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The swissport lounge in ord terminal 5 sucks.
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I've never sat in this config before.
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It has a built in massager. This must be how octkxiziyt feels all the time...
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And it's full lay flat. Yay.
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qpqnsuuozovgcv how'd you get that? did you upgrade
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always fun to feel up rjumsjhmyg โค๏ธ
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What's the best app/site to use these days to search for the cheapest flight between two points without dates? IOW I just want to know the cheapest time to fly the route RT without specifying dates or duration of stay
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Where are the cheapest places in the EU to buy quality produce? I'm thinking of quality in terms of effectively regulated food systems and shortest distance from growing location.
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Spain, literally where it groes
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I'm guessing the #1 netherlands โ†’ #2 spain โ†’ #3 portugal โ†’ #4 southern france
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Spain is definitely the obvious answer. In reality though it appears to be a bit more complicated since most of the best Spanish produce is exported. It's easier to buy organic Spanish produce in wealthier nearby countries for example.
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For eating fresh & local Spain is definitely #1
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Spain is huge though. Thoughts on the best part of Spain? Maybe Murcia?
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yes, probably Murcia
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snjzxpepq skyscanner is good too
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I keep hearing that the German food market is really tough, stuff is sold so cheaply
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Definitely agree with qtzfdejon German consumers are all about pricing when it comes to food.
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If you want to buy the stuff super-cheap, go to Aldi or Lidl. The quality of packaged food is usually good (they seem to sell brand stuff under their own label) and the prices are really low. I'm not so sure about the quality of fresh fruit and vegetables though, but you can decide on visual inspection.
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heads up peeps oil prices could jump quite a bit thanks to terrorist attacks over the weekend in saudia. if you're close to buying airline tickets, now is the time
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Sadly produce is Germany is primarily cheap and only secondary of good quality
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I found Ukraine and Serbia a much better deal, on local markets
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In terms of quality
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thankfully everyone has forward contracts on oil protecting them out for at least 9 months in the airline space, to hedge against this kind of price shock
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so it'll have an effect but it won't correlate against the actual price shock to the markets
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very true, and we won't know the affect for a while, but this could be a long term problem, so airlines will start slowly raising rates as soon as they can to mitigate sticker shock
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I've found LIDL stores in Poland / Portugal / Spain to have better quality produce than Germany or Austria at lower prices.
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Lidl is usually my go to for fresh produce. The only concern is that they don't refrigerate any of it so you have to time your shopping around their restocking schedule to get the freshest stuff.
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Levels of desirable compounds in broccoli, kale etc. deteriorate especially quickly when not kept cool.
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Some types of produce are less finicky
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Buying greens at outdoor markets during european summer isn't usually a great value because of the poor storage. Fruit, peppers, tomatoes etc. definitely though.
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smqlvlpn most airlines hedge fuel prices. short term spikes should have zero effect on ticket prices.
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I think in southern europe people have higher expectations for produce quality. It's weird to see Lidls in Portugal refrigerate greens and Lidls in Sweden not bother for example.
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That could well be down to ambient temperatures
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the temp in any grocery store is the same...
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i've been in way too many grocery stores to believe that lol
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The greens section is usually kept right near the entrances
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Maybe it's not relevant, but that could make a difference
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It's hugely relevant. The sell by date is the same no matter how an individual store decides to maintain the longevity of the product in practice.
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I'm in Lisbon now and the greens at Lidl are kept back by the cheese / frozen section. Really smart.
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And in their own open refrigerated case
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I live in Murcia and yes, the produce is flavourful and cheap. But I suspect the people who said that the best quality produce is exported to other countries are probably right.
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Agreed. The produce here in southern Spain is ridiculously amazing and cheap!
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> What's the best app/site to use these days to search for the cheapest flight between two points without dates? IOW I just want to know the cheapest time to fly the route RT without specifying dates or duration of stay

I vote google flights. Never had good experience with kiwi
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with gflights you can actually see how prices change in a calendar
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I often use Kiwi just to find routes, and then always purchase from elsewhere. Kiwi is bad news to buy from
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kiwi sometimes is the cheapest, even kayak is using them as the third party payment like ebookers or orbitz etc
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so wait, you're going to route to a city and burn fuel just to produce?
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i booked in norwegian premium but they're outsourcing their metal on certain routes so i get the super fancy seats for now. :)
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does anyone know any train booking sites for europe that let you select date ranges like the flight search engines do, as opposed to having to go through each individual date? I'd ask in #_trains, but only #_flights exists thinking_facegrinning
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bjtpozpacicdgfq You try this site. It might give you some ideas. www.seat61.com/Australia-overland.htm
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Oh, I love seat61, thanks tksopg ๐Ÿ˜„ but was looking more specifically just for train ticket price comparisons across dates so I can find the cheapest dates to travel, vs buying a interrail ticket.
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pgysosqgmvxwtez I'm guessing that you've already looked at the Rome2Rio site, yes?
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Like a Hopper for train routes . . .
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they give a ticket price range which is helpful (thanks!) but when you come to look for actual prices you still have to pick specific dates
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yep!
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although doesn't even have to be predictive right now, just +/- say 3 days like Kayak or something ๐Ÿ˜„
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Good to know, thanks!
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Does anyone know if Wizz air still check-ins carry-on bag? Booking a ticket and they don't really mention that it will be taken away, so it's seems like it's fine to have one as long as it fits under the seat ๐Ÿค”
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Wizz Air doesn't really check your personal item (backpack or other item that's suppose to fit under the seat). I have seen people get checked at the gate everyonce and while and try to get them to fit their bag into holder/size thing up front but not often.
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If you're worried about it, just snag Wizz Priority. Super cheap (like $10-15) and gives you a carry on and personal item. They don't weight or anything like that with Wizz Priority which is nice.
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Seems they changed the previous policy `From 1 November 2018, all passengers are entitled to bring one free carry-on bag no bigger than 40 x 30 x 20 cm on board that can be placed under the seat in front of you.`
Don't really want priority as have no use for it and I rather spend that on exit row seat
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I flew wizz air 3 times in the last 3 months and they've never measured or weighed my bag in years of flying with them. I think you should be ok cztghvassm
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Thanks. Yeah, last time I used them they did checkins for any non-priority carry-ons, but everything looked like they are not doing that anymore so just wanted to check that is the latest info :)
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by check-ins do you mean gate checks or weigh-ins at check-in?
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a gate check is where they take your bag from you as you're boarding to put it under the plane, and a weigh-in is where they make sure your bag fits certain measurements before you pass security
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Well I mean they used to take away your carry-on at the gate unless you had priority
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ah yeah, ok, so I do remember they used to take bigger bags at the gate or when boarding, but that was ages ago, and I haven't seen it in a while. Even then, they never took my 18L carry-on that I always put under the seat. I think they now mandate that only priority can bring stuff for overhead bins which was probably done to solve that problem. nemlvtshpvqdcp and I were talking it about it last week, she might know more about the current state of things than me
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Last time I flew them was last Summer, my bag almost fits their size requirements (depth and side slightly less, but bigger from height) but could squash it to fit into requirements
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my bad never fits their little box thing, but I always take it on. I think if it as a legal requirement to draw the line somewhere, so they can tell you no if they really need to
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Yeah, I never actually seen someone use that box thing on regular backpack (usually the hunt for rollers) and usually as soon as they see the backpack just put a carry-on sticker on it
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One thing I didn't miss was booking flights and even worse (for tomorrow) airbnbs, staying in one place has its pros
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definitely, but we're going to have to change the name of our little slack chat if we start doing that ๐Ÿ˜…
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_Tree List_ (because you put roots around the sofa)
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nice one. better than any names I had
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V Air was great, I kinda miss them. But Tigerair has been pretty damn good too.
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wow that's a great picture
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Yes, but it's missing the laptop that digital dads are working on - at the same time ๐Ÿ˜„
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yeah actually when i first glanced at it i thought there was a laptop
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i was all "oh this guy's working while he's got a baby in his arms"
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it's funny, I onced booked high speed train in France, tgv and there was a choice to book in a child carriage. As we were travelling with a kid I thought that's a great idea, I imagined there will be toys or something to keep him busy
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in fact that was full carriage of crying restless kids, half of them were sick :) not good at all. I appreciate passengers in other carriages got rid of us but I was a bit tired after that ride
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clever on the side of tgv though! never again
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interesting what Japan airlines do if I choose green seat and then someone with a baby chooses seat next to me? rebook? alert?
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Ha, i could send you one of me doing just that ๐Ÿ˜„ It's possible, but not desirable :)
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Why not? I did this a lot with my younger one (used a baby sling though) and he liked it a lot when he was very small.
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Yeah when my daughter was small I would often work with the baby carrier on
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she was happy (and often asleep) and I got time with my daughter, and my wife got time without my daughter
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Have not experienced this
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hmm, anyone here with priority pass, is it worth the price? considering I'm gonna have around 15-20 flights in upcoming year
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Many of us have Priority Pass but with a credit card
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i have mine by being an AU on a friend's card. So I pay $75. Totally worth it. But I might end it for next year as I'll be flying a lot less.
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Priority Pass is a MUST if you travel internationally a good bit, which it looks like you are
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eh, i nomaded for 9 years without it and didn't die. so i don't think i'd call it a MUST. but it's a nice bonus that can pay for itself. concerning is the rise in being turned away as a PP member.
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I call it a must because I'm 10x less stressed about getting to the airport and much better fed and hydrated (read drunk) knowing that I can eat and drink for "free"
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I mean, i guess you could just do lounge buddy or whatever
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Also, I really wish btrfly worked well
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what's the best option for people without a credit card (like me)?
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lfclbflf in what sense?
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to get a lounge pass
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you can pay to join or you can find someone who has a CC that offers PP to someone who is an authorized user and get it that way.
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PP?
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priority pass
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although there are more and more centurion lounges
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i keep thinking about adding it to my list of lounges
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I had a PP for a year and to be honest I was not impressed. I was impressed at first, as I was at the Turkish lounge and it was good. Although 2/4 showers didn't work. Food was really good. There were luggage storages.

Then the next two were crap. One had no showers. They arranged us after lots of arguing to another lounge.

Third time there was one shower. Full house. You had to sign up on a list. Then go check in with them every 10 mins to see your position. The food was horrendous. Like super processed, dry, been sitting under the heating lamp type thing.

What's the % of your visits were actually very enjoyable?

I care only about two things. Showers and good, nutritious food.
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most lounges do not have showers unless they are major lounges at major international airports
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also many lounges don't have good food
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the primary draw of most lounges is a quiet place with probably wifi that is separate from the plebes ๐Ÿ˜›
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some have no food for certain diets at all
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like my meatatarian diet
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also you don't have to watch the time you can ask to be notified when your gate is announced so you can put on your headphones and focus on your work
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I judge lounges that have zero animal protein food
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at least have some boiled eggs for breakfast dammit
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well, I'm the exact opposite
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well, any lounge I've seen that has food almost always at minimum has some form of sad salad
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exactly
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yeah well the same lounges have nothing I'd eat
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so at least you get sad salad
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I get
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water
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fair
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do you leave feedback?
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haha what's the point
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well, I think if enough people did it would have an effect
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I highly doubt it
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I do leave feedback if they're lacking vegan food
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can't hurt and takes 1 minute
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yeah but also I think they're more likely to listen to "no good vegan food" vs "no good carnivore food" ๐Ÿ˜›
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send them recipes ๐Ÿ˜„
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tbh I'd settle for a charc plate
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like "your services are appalling! Here's a recipe for lamb stuffed cabbage"
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ew cabbage ๐Ÿ˜›
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are you that anti veggie ๐Ÿ˜„
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yep
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pickled cabbage must be the most ideal thing to eat before getting on a long-haul flight ๐Ÿคฃ
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next to chili beans
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my favorite lounge experience was a few years ago, flying out of ICN, and I think it was the CX lounge and they had a nice simmering pot of braised short ribs
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omg
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ICN?
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incheon airport at seoul
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ah!
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not been to that one
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funny thing with nomads and other world trotters. we do tend to know half the world's airport codes ๐Ÿ˜„
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I remember it being a nice airport
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it's been years since I've been there though
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I want to check out Singapore
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oh yeah that's supposed to be amazing
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I just need to sort out my move first
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bloody hard to get a good rental in Tenerife at the moment for some reason
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one landlord wanted me to pay 6 months worth of rent ahead
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i couldn't care less about showers. i want something to nibble. a comfortable chair, a plug, a way to fill my water bottle, and hopefully a decent glass of wine.
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I'd use the shower although I don't think it's critical
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the thought of showering in one of those grosses me out.
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why?
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because other people use them?
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the places I've taken showers inโ€ฆ
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Yes, same!! I'm also carnivore! :)
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The shower at the Turkish lounge was super good. There was a full time cleaner tending them and cleaning up after each use.
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the non-schengen AY lounge at HEL has saunas!
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I just feel gross after a long flight. Like after a 10 or 12 hour flight. I feel sticky icky. My only goal in life at that point is to find a shower ASAP.
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(and showers)
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(for pre and post sauna)
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That's pretty cool haha ๐Ÿ˜‚
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I love saunas too being Russian
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Arden, what do you think about saunas?
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I'm surprised there are so few showers at airports. Feels like a business opportunity to me. Imagine some kind of automated shower with a card swipe? Self cleaning at the end.
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Self cleaning wet facilities are bonkers wasteful of water though
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There is/was a self cleaning pay toilet in NYC years ago
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yeah, and any self cleaning system that was good with water would likely cost a prohibitive amount of money to build and maintain
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iclsnkgz Revolut allows you to buy lounge passes from their app
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with revolut you'd have to pay for each visit
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thats gross
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not on demand.
and I chose N26 to go premium instead of Revolut, although if I have access to all lounges the 80โ‚ฌ per year are worth itโ€ฆ
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Yeah, they are single use, but depending on how much you travel might be worth it
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I've used something like a zillion longe credits this year
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I have gotten my pps worth
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Probably a solid 50 passes worth I think
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what app is that?
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Looks like "app in the air"
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It is
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It pulls from TripIt
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I swear I have that app I just always forget I have it
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I'm going to travel a lot in the next 2 months but all of the flights have short layovers
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<2 hrs
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not sure how worth it it is
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I never use it because I don't fly enoughโ€ฆcos I'm lazy.
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I don't fly often anymore.
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It's mostly just long hauls with a few puddle jumpers
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i used to fly a lot. I think I miss it in some ways.
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but not in the 'fly with all my stuff' way
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just in the 'weekend flight' way
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or a new city every day but back to a base after a long week of it
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so i think this means i want even more airbnbs simtaneously
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I don't think I've ever been turned away from a lounge
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I have, in high demand markets (seattle PP, etc)
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but no lounge is that bad
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it's quiet, away from all the idiots, you can make calls, the wifi is better and there is a bar that is quiet and always has time for oyu
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plus usually a nice shower and a friendly smile
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i've never had it happen
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_ever_
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they really just don't care all that much
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plus honestly, if they get grumpy.. just offer to reswipe
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if you're on their airline in BKK, they usually arrange for someone to take you to the gate in my experience
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at least with the lounges i've dealt with there
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or they wanted ot know so they could make a lounge announcement when your flight was boarding
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i wouldn't worry either way
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I have been booted once (out of close to 100 times), but i was also traveling with a large group and I think they (Amsterdam) were just annoyed that we got so many people in (legitimately)
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In Singapore they wouldn't let anyone into the PP lounge who's departure was iirc >3hrs out
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On the tarmac in Rome looking at a plane emblazoned with "United States of America" and a dozen black car motorcade, armed escorts, press and a slew of feds. Wondering who is in town...
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qlxqbrrrq about... 40 ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
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swydwfypphbez remoteyear?
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yup
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also, which vietnamese city are you in?
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ahnzuokoprcvpu that would Secretary Pompeo's plane.
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I'm in Da Nang for another week or so then eventually heading to Chiang Mai
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ah bummer, saigon for 2w then hanoi for 2w
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i'm a slowmad, so chiang mai probably 3+ months
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SEA is the way to be tho
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can't wait for thai food & 7-11
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i've been in vietnam for about 4 months now heh
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what part of chiang mai?
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i usually stay sorta near nimman, either in the santitham area or near maya
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perfect, then you probably know about khao soi nimman
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ah maybe not
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i know about Khao Soy Maesai though
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and to be honest i find khao soi at most places are pretty good anyways
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except mall cafeterias, sometimes those end up a bit sad
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oh oh oh do i have a treat for you then, i think it's the best one
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i'll flag it then ๐Ÿ˜‰
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enjoy! super jealous
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you have to let me know how it compares as khao soi is my numero uno in thailand
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which would be the cheapest way to fly France โ†”๏ธ Mexico?
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Be aware kiwi sometimes misses stuff though
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So also do your own research
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I've seen kiwi totally miss some valid routings that are cheaper for certain city pairs
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like flying to Canada via Iceland or Greenland
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Europe to Reykjavik is so cheap most of the year that it's like they're paying you to go
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then they have cheap hops to Greenland and the same from there to Nunavut, Quebec, NFL or Ontario
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yeah, you definitely have to do more research, but it's a good starting point
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Try cheap airline to Frankfurt
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Then Condor
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They're not listed on kiwi
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That's what I usually use for Americas <-> EU
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www.condor.com (Fankfurt is thier EU hub)
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Does someone maybe knowsโ€ฆ if I book return flight, eg to BKK 5. Dec <> 15 Dec. and buy ticket with free date changes for return flight. Would I be allowed to reschedule return flight for 3 months?
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pbyliwhub are you talking about because of the thai visa or something?
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once you're in thailand, past immigration, you can do whatever you want
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I'm asking because there are sometimes discounts on tickets if they are return tickets within 1 month.
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I think generallyyou have free date changes but you still have to pay any fare difference. So you're just avoiding the change fee.
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If there are rebates on returns within one month they typically would be sold as some form of discount economy and there would be a change fee if changing is at all possible
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The woman and her guest in front of me just got turned away with PP at Manchester airport because of space. As a single, I was able to get in.
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Out of curiosity, did they put that to the woman in front of you, that only one more PP user could enter, or were they just turned away?
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They were just turned away as full.
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She was a complete bitch in return and yelled. As she was telling at one girl I heard another tell mine there were open spots. But no one told the bitchy woman. Had she not yelled, she would have gotten in.
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Damn. Well deserved then. Lounges are nicer places because they *can* and do turn people away.
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Yeah. Given how she acted I did not feel bad. But Manchester lounge is weird. You need reservations for most seats.
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Can you do that in advance with PP? Some lounges which offer reservations ask PP holders to pay for them. iirc STN's PP lounge is like that
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You would have to pay, yes. No idea how it works.
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Ive not seen it at STN and I've been there a half dozen times.
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ok maybe it was elsewhere then, can't recall
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So I had a flight change its... destination city, from Bali to Jakarta, a week away from departure
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qidtcodazimkz holy smokes, never heard of that before
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I've never heard of that
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Interesting... I got the fare through scottscheapflights... hopefully this doesn't happen again
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Also never heard of this
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Never heard of that, would make sense if for example destination was not accessible (like Bali's volcano started spewing fire again), but otherwise seems very strange
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Here's a cropped photo of the email I got
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this is 100% one reason i don't book flights with OTAs
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How do you research / buy?
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Oh wait, I realized they "only" changed it from a nonstop 3 hrs flight to a 15-hour layover-fest
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i buy direct from airlines. so when things go tits up i can call them or talk to them at the airport and they'll figure it out. i don't have to go through a 3rd party. especially if things go bad at the airport.
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Search for flights on Kiwi, buy tickets direct from airlines
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Garuda has good customer service. Call them
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know what you want when you call
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do you want:
1) to be put on the most direct routing
2) to get a free longer layover and have a few days to explore your layover city?
3) to be flown on different days?
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ignore the OTA bullshit
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Worth calling Garuda even if I booked through OTA you think?
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of course, always worth a try. the worst they can tell you is to call your OTA
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oh wow, I never seen OTAs doing anything like that, it's just ๐Ÿ’ฉ
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I know they can cancel your fare or leave you messed up if airline cancels but changing destination city .. whoa
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i bought from an OTA once in the last 5 years and it bit me in the ass
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when the airline required a letter saying my mom was okay to fly after breaking her foot before they'd let her on the plane, and the OTA's ticket insurance required a letter from the doctor saying she was NOT okay to fly in order to refund the ticket
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This makes sense, no?
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no, it's either a flight or an insurance, catch 22
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That's not a catch 22. In this scenario catch 22 would be to enter the airplane insurance is needed
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The doctor's not will decide if a flight OR money back. That makes sense
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now that you say it, it does make sense ๐Ÿ˜„
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except no airlines (including this one) had any documentation stating that was required
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but the gate agent and management wouldn't budge
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i was able to book a flight on literally any other airline and they told me in advance it was fine and that no doctor letter would be needed
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basically, fuck Aeromexico
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4 years in and I'm yet to be burned using OTAs..
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Had flights changed on me with Expedia but the phone support was very helpful, offered free rebooking or free refund
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I never really thought about it, I've booked loads of flights with OTAs, slight preference for them, not gotten screwed yet
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I won't use OTAs unless the savings is super substantial
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Offhand I need to be saving at least like 30% for me to consider it
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Never used and never will use OTAs.
Saw too many people crying due to that.
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I've had my ota-booked tickets be rescheduled last minute, but I still contacted the airline directly and they fixed it for me. I feel as long as you're not flying budget airlines, they'll still help you out even if you didn't book directly with them.
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they _can_ help you out even if you didn't book directly with them
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I have had airlines tell me directly that I had to contact the OTA instead of them
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it's always worth a shot though
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a lot of airlines will deal with you on an OTA booking if you talk nicely to them
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OTAs are trash ๐Ÿ—‘
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Airlines can always take control of a ticket... but convincing them to do so can be challenging to impossible.
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There's not really any reason to book through an OTA in the first place though ๐Ÿค”
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Occasionally OTAs will be selling... heavily discounted inventory for a period of time after an airline stops making that inventory available through their own site. Then reputable OTAs can be a good choice.
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I'm still often not sure it's worth it though
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www.secretflying.com/posts/tokyo-japan-to-canadian-cities-from-only-178-usd-roundtrip/ ERROR FARE Tokyo, Japan to Canadian cities from only $178 USD roundtrip
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What a deal
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is there a website tracking the average price of hotels? (deals by those booking websites are real fake?)
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okay, google has it, but it seems not deployed ๐Ÿ˜• alakov.com/blog/google-tests-hotel-price-insights-desktop
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Damn
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> Scott here. I'm reaching out to let you know Scott's Cheap Flights is no longer sending flight deals departing from airports outside of the United States.

disappointed_relieved
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That was my favorite list.
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Yeah, that was a bummer to see. Anyone know of good alternatives?
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Jack flight club is pretty decent raised_handsskin-tone-2
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isn't that the one that just copies all of scotts emails?
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I wouldn't think so; they have about a million subscriber and rather a bit team to be able to find their own deals.

Maybe they are affiliated with Scotts emails?
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hm. i know there was one 'service' that just literally copied and pasted scott's emails. sdepgzoyyq will know.
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Wasn't jack the one that was copying?
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I think it was Jacks that was copying Scott's. I heard here or elsewhere that Jack's has been getting a lot of press in Europe, so Scott is going to cut them off at the knees
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Either way, these sites just pull from the dozen other sites on the web and charge you for it. Just use the Secret Flying app or hacktheflight website
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never understood why people pay money for this
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because lazy
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yeah I suppose. Looks like Jacks mainly targets EU customers, so I guess the territory lines have been drawn. If you're a nomad neither really works, but I'm guessing the vast majority of their customers are pretty static
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Yeah jacks one literally copy pasted Scott's emails. He also positioned his launch as it would be free, then suddenly "realized" he needed money (which is fine, but the way he did it was less than transparent based on his original promise)
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Maybe he's evolved since then
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The thing is, the various hack the flight / secret flying options are great but I am happy to pay for curation
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When I know my destination already I just hack the flight
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But I don't want 100 potentially ok deals, I want an email for the one deal that's amazing and that tells me in the subject line what alliance and what the bag situation is, which Scott does
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And avoids basic y tickets
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I usually just care about "great deals from airport A, B, or C to anywhere cool"
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Preferably in J
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yeah so convenience is the big factor. sounds like it has a lot more granularity than some of the others too
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fwiw, the secret flying app now lets you isolate by departure airport or region, which has been nice. I do like a few more false positives, keeps my options open ๐Ÿ˜‰
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is there such a thing as a sort of corporate travel representative that works with single person companies/entrepreneurs to basically get them treated as a single corporate client for negotiated rates at hotels
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like having worked both on apps that integrate the GDS, and at a company where I routinely booked my own travel through Concur under a rate code of our company (at like 30%+ discounts below rack), it would be great to avail myself of those sorts of prices again
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And it seems to me like some agent might be able to just enroll a hundred people like us and just present as an alliance of frequent travelers who are easy, potentially repeat guests and get those same standard corporate discountsโ€ฆ
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I wouldn't even mind if it meant doing my booking through concur
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I should say *_collectively_ treated as a single corporate client for negotiated rates at hotels
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I didn't even know Scott existed, thanks everyone! I've just ditched Jack and got on with Scott!
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Oh, so Scott does not support London ๐Ÿ˜ณ back to Jack i guess.
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dfaevstjwbm considering jack WAS the one that was literally just copying and pasting scott's emails and scott no longer does europe, i would anticipate jack to go down hill. why not just set up alerts with hacktheflight or similar?
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Well, jack now presumably has enough revenue he doesn't need to copy any more
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Yeah I'm assuming he'll set up his own feeder system and actually do some work. He's looking at a huge loss in revenue otherwise
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I will give that a try! raised_handsskin-tone-2
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Considering Scott makes $1MM/yr+++ (gross), Jack should be getting a ton of cash by now
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and i think he has started spreading out a bit and is now basically crawling the various sites lik ehacktheflight
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xluiysbktq I could use that sort of money ๐Ÿค”
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Soooo. I think I messed up. I need to fly from Paris to Austin at the end of next week, but flight prices are ~$1000. Can anyone recommend an alternative or am I stuck?
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huh, this tool is new to me :)
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thanks!
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don't book through them but they're great for the initial search.
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why shouldn't I book through them? Is there a catch?
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their customer service is absolute shit and they've left more than one person with their 'guaranteed connection' stranded.
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yeesh. But you're right, the flight prices check out when I go to the airline. Awesome! thank you
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sure thing. safe travels
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Forgotten the deal with this slack and posting linksโ€ฆ But I found a cool site called Escape.
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greatescape (dot) co
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Come out of one of MIT's projects and especially for planning as you go, I've found it pretty useful
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it's pretty
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Do you mean to avoid having to search twice, once for each origin city?
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The Nomad slack bot said it deleted my message with a link, so here it's again without link
> If both origin cities are from the same country you could set your origin as the entire country...then get prices twice
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Kiwi let's you do two origin cities.
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The problem is most of these sites treat two origins as an || operator not &&. I can't think of any site that does something like that. Sounds like you need to build it nzeupnzdar
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I'm still trying to grasp the significance of the feature ๐Ÿ˜‚ Are there any bound variables between 2 origin cities
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Oh maybe for _any one destination_
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The destination is a variable
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Why does it need to be an and? I presume the OP can do math. Why not just add the two prices?
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Or just open 2 tabs
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Easier to compare across multiple rows and criteria
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The only feature I miss is region blocking on Kiwi.
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Like All flights from EU to CA which don't have USA connection.
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You can sorta do it by deselecting airports, but it's tedious
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I try to avoid the US when going to CA too ๐Ÿ˜†
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I meant Central America
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ah, I meant Canada
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Well both work
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last time I flew from asia to mexico, ended up going through US.. probably triple the price if I didn't.. shame really
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well I guess from EU you can fly to canada pretty cheap through airtransat or another similar airline, and then do a direct flight from canada to central america
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Yea, For EU -> Americas I use Condor, it's cheap, their 2 hubs are FRA and Santo Domingo. The only downside are the connections.
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I don't have particular hate for US, my GF doesn't have visa or access to waiver so we have route around.
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ah that's strange, can't even transit? ๐Ÿ˜ž
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At the same time, I enjoy not having to go trough TSA.
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I don't think so. For me it's easy, but she's from Argentina
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Does US even have a concept of transit? You have to enter either way. It's like EU.
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not like EU*
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ah, didn't realize it was two different continents. makes sense it would not as the pricing would be so different. so just open two different tabs and compare side-by-side.
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that's not going to happen. there is no service besides a human that does that.
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I'm trying to find top hubs for lowcoaster airlines in Europe, and so far Budapest turned out to be an obvious one for WizzAir and Dublin for Ryanair. Is there any aggregators or manual spreadsheets that can show number of flights out of an airport?
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Hey, all :)
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Unsure if it includes LCCs but flightconnections.com has flights in and out of airports
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I'd argue hub and spoke thinking doesn't really apply as you might expect to those airlines. They're much more dynamic and rigid. That being said, here you go
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fhhlyvfpthor yes, flight connections had LCCs
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Thanks zyibxinr
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cpanywrihbhu Thank you as well
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Although I'm still not sure how can I get "What's the airport with most LCCs flights in this region"
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(and what's some with average number)
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Some people are strange, seen a guy arguing with airport security guard to allow him to take a lighter which looks like a bullet facepalm
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Also out of curiosity (and to lower my anxiety) decided to use one of those baggage measuring devices by the gate, have a long way to go until my bags won't fit in them so less anxiety from now on :)
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I wasn't even allowed to take a lighter that looked like a lighter! They wouldn't even let me put it in my checked bag!! (In South Korea)
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Yeah, personally if organize everything in a way that if I don't have to deal with some BS I could be at the other side of XRAY in about 20 seconds, don't want to stay at security any longer than necesary
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I had super bad experience in FRA for the first time. They had strikes, huge lines and then at the check they asked to take out all electronics. I just took out the normal stuff like laptop. They ofc double checked my 2 bags and I had to take out everything. (I hate a lot electronics). And then pack again. This is after standing in line for like 1h for the security check.
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Never before I've had to take out everything. I do get random extra bag searches because my coffee grinder looks like a pipe-bomb, but never had they asked to take all the stuff out and put it in the tray.
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i've had that at a couple places. thankfully all my tech is in one place but it's still annoying.
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my bag is 80% electronics, 20% clothes and random stuff ๐Ÿ˜„
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I could take my clothes packing cube out and be like .. "Here's all my electronics in these 2 bags".
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yeah. people always try to grab my big bag of clothes to help and i'm like, 'yeah, my small day pack weighs twice as much, but i won't let you carry that anyway.'
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I'm 12kg+4kg
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right now i have stupid amounts of shit. generally i'm at about 11 kg and can get it into a single bag if i pack correctly.
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I can if I give my stabilizer to my GF ๐Ÿ˜„
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It's a lot space, but not too heavy.
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I try to not overpack bags so they don't look big. They're heavy, but no one should know that ๐Ÿ˜„
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My bag is mostly electronics too, but they are organized in transparent ziplock bags, but so far never had to take those out. Usually it's just laptops and depending on how much an ass a guard is they fifty fifty require to take them out of covers (should make those transparent too)
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My carry on/purse is basically all electronics
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I had to once take out everything and lay things out flat, at TLV
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It took up like 11 bins ๐Ÿ˜…
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My flight was due to depart soon and they had a guy in a golf cart waiting for me to whisk me to my gate
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Haha, that sounds like me, just minus the golf cart.
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Oh my newest travel hack - instead of removing the whole belt, I now just remove the belt buckle.
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TLV is the worst, especially since all cables are considered as "electronics".
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I got randomly selected for extra screening a couple years ago and it was a 2.5hr crazy search and interrogation. Worst breach of privacy (digital + personal) that I've ever had.
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I am for sure.
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plus, isnโ€™t that data getting used for some other startup thing? I could have sworn i heard Pieter was auto-opting-in that trip data for some other thing heโ€™s doing
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Yeah, checkbox with "Hide future trips" would be great, don't care much about seeing where I was, but don't feel so great about where I'm going.
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or limiting it to friends vs everyone on the planet
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Or that at least, I'm still not sure if I should just make my profile private again
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Itโ€™s called โ€œmarket researchโ€ or โ€œstreaming it all to the internet at largeโ€ One of the two. I forget which one.
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Yep agree, adding Hide current / hide future trips, I have the same I don't rly want ppl to know which city I am in until I left, sometimes get weird shit happening
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prfrfymvcd nope, that's bullshit, and I'd never do that, that'd be pretty stupid and also PR suicide; it's used to rank cities on Nomad List based on how many ppl are there yes
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teedqsyqib Nomad List, Remote OK and Hoodmaps are the only things I'm working on ๐Ÿ™‚
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Yeah, for you it's even more, because probably most of this slack would like to meet with you ๐Ÿ˜„
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To which, btw I use Hoodmaps so so much. Was something my friends and I have wanted for years, and now use it to book places to stay...to get that nice middle ground of, not too expensive(budget) but still nice. Typically has worked well/.
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^ Same, I always check hoodmaps before booking anything anywhere
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nfpmqrcmuo not a ton of info for San Jose Del Cabo which I'll be going to in a month. Just "paint" an area to contribute?
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bkcuvjotgljucygb yes pls! and tag if possible, can tag/paint on mobile too
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rmmdhhwnlgfn wow supercool to hear :D
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Hi all -- any advice for which websites are the best to register with for flight deals? ๐Ÿ™‚
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hacktheflight
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it gathers them all
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amazing link U03K95VPN!
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lmwjikeqcnvawt You're amazing as always! ๐Ÿ˜„
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The company I work for (tigerspike) developed the Priority Pass app which means I get free access. Food and drink tastes sooo much better when it's free somehow ๐Ÿ™‚
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pdketolfhcukutck lucky you!!! ๐Ÿ‘Œ
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Nice, thanks for sharing!
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