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'in their crate'
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errrโ€ฆyes, with all the other toys
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Left a bad airbnb review today. One of the few I've ever left. But the living room furniture was so terrible i just had to.
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In what way was it terrible?
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well the couch was so old and sagging that we had to put the back cushions down and sit on them otherwise we basically sank to the floor. even with that, if both of us sat on it, we slid towards each other. the fold out "bed" was a 2" thick pad that just pushing your hand on you could feel ever bar and support, much less laying on. when we moved the living room table to unfold the bed, it collapsed.
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oh no
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yeah, so basically i said it was fine if they wanted to just eat, bathe, and sleep in the bed. but if they wanted to use the living room in any way at all they should look elsewhere.
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qxibdlibawnnhq `if both of us sat on it, we slid towards each other` is not a bug, it's a feature called `breaking the ice` ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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it was my mom
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i'd rather not.
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_Host is not responsible for your choice of company_ ๐Ÿ˜„
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hehe
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My memory is shit so decided to make some helpers which allow me to remember at which airbnbs I looked and what I think about them ๐Ÿ˜„
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wait! how do you add notes to airbnb! omg I need this
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gdesqdno You can't ๐Ÿ˜› Very basic version right now, but basically it's just couple bookmarklets to set/get some info ๐Ÿ˜„
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oh man, it would be so helpful
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Need to do a lot of improvements on them, but actually being very helpful already, don't need to constantly read descriptions again or look over the photos to remember why I liked/not-liked some place. Maybe bug me in a month or so, might share it if it's a bit more polished :)
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yeah, that would be super helpful
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make it crowd sourced mgzyqgpmhu ๐Ÿค”
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I'm procrastinating with my own airbnb filter where I can exclude flats with <4.5 rating and other stuff ๐Ÿ˜ซ
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gzdifckua Don't want to share it open-globally (that is a sure fire way to get it disabled), but will share a snippet later in this chat. First want to clean up the code and improve it a bit. I know it's a stupid statement, because if something already helps who cares how it looks like but still it's shameful to share something I threw quickly in less than an hour ๐Ÿ˜„
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booked a pricier than usual AirBnB within a national park and the hosts are earning their keep, unbidden
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offering to help with itinerary, etc
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which national park?
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Esteros del Ibera (Argentina) ... it's not far from Iguazu. Turns out my host family was involved in the creation of the park (which is obviously rather new)!
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That's very cool! I like when paying a little extra comes with hidden perks.
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is there a place that collects network speed tests for airbnbs? We don't do airbnb that much, but out of 4 places I stayed on this trip, 2 had internet that was barely usable for anything other than checking email. Yes, lesson learned, next time I'll explicitly asks the hosts about the speeds but I suspect half of them are clueless, plus it delays the process if you have to ask every single one of them.
Would you folks take time to add to a crowdsourced DB for this purpose "for the greater good", if it was available ? Plus, if I got enough interest, I could put this on a map (if 3 out of 5 flats in an area have terrible connection, there's a good chance that's all that can be achieved in that area).
Kind of lazy to do it if nobody except me puts anything into it though ๐Ÿ˜„
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It's definitely a need -- I'd contribute data to it for sure.
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I use this site for hotels, it's not great but it's better than "Free WiFi"
www.hotelwifitest.com
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Thanks! Hopefully will be useful next time I might be staying in a hotel.
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I somehow find it hard to believe someone hasn't already started building it and I'd rather contribute to something that already exists (took speedtests and links for all 4 places I stayed this time) but if it doesn't a crude version shouldn't take too long to write (make it nice, that's another story ๐Ÿ˜‰ )
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if anyone is looking for a place in new york city in november, my apartment in manhattan will be available almost all month. i can be very flexible with dates and offer a much better deal than airbnb, especially for a longer stay. please send me a DM for more details
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Fast.com is the best and most user friendly
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cnvhosxotbxpbrxp I made a Google Sheet for this a while back. It's really just my own data right now, but I'd love to see it get big enough to be useful docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o9G8oQqp9-kSGkBnrNBb8ULIngJfd3bVOigk51td5oc/edit#gid=0
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yup, that's pretty much what I have too - just airbnb url and link to speedtest. Across the two of us we have 12 data points - good start ๐Ÿ˜›
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I think I'll wait a few more days to see if anybody comes with a link to something that's out there. If it's still zero, I'll knock out a simple UI that will be able to collect and show this data, no frills for now, but if we do start getting more incoming data points then this can change according to needs
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Awesome!
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This is the only thing I've seen that tried to do that. It belongs to a facebook group of nomad teachers, and hasn't really been updated in a while. It's got maybe 100 airbnb's in there, but is mostly focused on south east asia
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whoa, that's a good one! it has way more than the speeds too!
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Yeah this one is much better!!
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cool beans. IF I end up building this page it would be fab to include already existing measurements - are you still in that group and would be able to ask if this data can be included?
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hmmm, let me see, hang on
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interesting, so they don't post speedtest results but just numbers - that's good to know that it should be an option
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aaaand it's not just airbnb
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sent her a message for you wlprhxczoyplpahe
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Not to be negative, but I feel like it will run into the same issue like those app which map internet speeds for cafes, after some time everyone gets bored and data gets stale. I still just find it easier to ask the host, their response also provides me an idea of what the communication with them might be.
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yeah, it is a good test of responsiveness because if they're not willing to run a speed test how easy will they be to work with on a real issue?
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I would just like info on if the place is nomad friendly. ie desk, comfortable chair, good wifi, low noise, ventilation.
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there are some gem airbnbs that are great but its rare that i find one that caters to everything that i need
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and then there are some that are just terrible to work from
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I've always wanted a solid, simple app like that - that makes it easy to report & find wifi speeds.
I feel like it's turned into an xkcd "standards" situation though xkcd.com/927/
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I'm starting to notice that hosts are sometimes are starting to put screenshots of their speed tests, and sometimes I even suggest them to upload it after asking (for other guests). Too bad airbnb doesn't allow to share links until you have something booked, so it's a complicated game of trying to explain how to run a speed test and getting results. If airbnb was smart they would make that as a requirement when creating a booking (you checked that place has wifi, give a tip about how to share your speeds)
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the communication aspect is a good point, but I wonder how many hosts actually are clued up enough to be able to say how good the internet is? Most people hardly go beyond mail/basic browsing. Maybe now a bit more video streaming too - but that only requires half-decent download, which is a problem with asymmetric packages (which are common) where upload is not enough for you to get on a video call for example. And to run a speed test they need to be in the apartment. Which might have guests, or be far enough I wouldn't blame them they are not keen to run there just to run some speed test for a maybe-guest.
But, you absolutely have a point about nobody bothering to do this - but then we can only blame (collective) ourselves that this data is not easily available :)
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I've basically just decided to eat out permanently and tether permanently ๐Ÿ˜†
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Yep. My current airbnb has wifi speeds of < 3 down and bairly above zero up. :(
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It's not a straight no, but it's a big red flag for me personally. Like figuring out how to run speed test is not that complicated (at least a basic one) and if they can't figure that one out not sure I will want to stay with them because what if you have some other issue and they will just reply with "I don't know how to do it, your problem not mine". I had hosts respond with guests in place can't test / will go later and test / can't run test provider says it's X / etc etc, that simply just gives me extra info on deciding which one to take. Like my next airbnb I'm not even sure what is the internet speed, because the host said she will ask the provider and let me know but I never got the answer, but I got a good special offer that even if internet is shit I can probably just hotspot the internet for that time.
As for having data points not sure about it, just too much of them because same building can have completely shitty internet and completely amazing internet (depends on the providers, on the selected plan, on how often the provider is threatened with canceling account, etc). And to have a list of airbnbs usage I think (personally from my own experience) is slim, because I don't even bother looking into airbnbs I stayed at and liked as the chance of them being available when I need is so low that it's just not worth the time to check.
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Does anyone have a clever hack for dealing with overly firm mattresses (to make the softer/more padded)?
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go buy a topper?
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beat it with a club
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Sleep on the ground ๐Ÿ˜„
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But if serious your options are limited, best one would be to get a topper (which probably you might not want to spend on if you staying short term), other options would be to put a bunch of towels and stuff like that but that ends up being like a puzzle trying to avoid hills and drops, sleeping on the back on them helps a little bit.
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WELP just had to contact AirBnB customer service about a host's entitled behavior for the first time. The amazing thing is that she's getting rid of me a day early and she still has an attitude problem. "It's Mother's Day in Argentina" smdh
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CS said they would reach out. I'm done talking to her for now.
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oh boy, I see she's been messaging me every two minutes about a problem she created.

*If anyone has wrangled a sitch like this before, lmk.* Worst case is, I leave everything broom clean as I normally do, leave keys on counter, take pix of everything and send them via AirBnB before I leave.
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What is the problem?
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The WiFi at my Dahab apartment somehow got wildly slower over the weekend while I was gone
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I am still waiting for the speed test to even load
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She was balking at my checking out after 10 am today even though I have the place booked through tomorrow.

All's apparently well now, thanks to my contacting support.
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weird
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glad its ok.
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The kittens did it.
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weird... hidden cams taking up the bandwidth?
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My Airbnb here in Cape Town is a little small, but makes up for it in quality. This is the most comfortable bed I think I've ever slept in ๐Ÿ˜Œ
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Plus 500mbit fibre ๐Ÿคฉ
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sending pics is a good idea, I should do that
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500mbit in the most comfortable bed.. sounds dangerous ๐Ÿ˜‰
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'tis. I refuse to get out of bed. It's also hecking cold in cape town right now, so there's no reason to get up
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my bed in my french airbnb was amazing.
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i love a firm mattress. most airbnb mattresses suck and are super soft and squishy.
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it was such a nice change and i slept so well.
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yeah. my airbnb in budapest was actually the owners sometimes home, and he had put the cheapest ikea mattress in there. I slept terribly there. such a shame
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I wound up just saving the pics should I need them, seems like I won't, though.
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So I finally got speed test working and I'm getting a whopping 0.16mbps down ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Amazing
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How long before did you send this message before it actually appeared?
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Like a solid 10 seconds
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Wait, that one was faster!
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:O
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persistent connections ftw!
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mamhwmolblpbpf yea I still don't really know what kind of bed my body likes more. I think firm ones keep me cooler (my body is a furnace), but some in Asia are SO firm and I wake up sore if I sleep on my side. I'm pretty sure I sleep better on a softer mattress overall, but I don't have much trouble sleeping either way these days. do you sleep much on your side and prefer some sort of solid support?
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cause there seems to be "supportive" firm and "cardboard" firm
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i sleep on my side almost always.
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i think quality matters. the mattress in france was a serta, which is a good brand.
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yea, Thai mattresses especially are pretty low quality. Have had some good ones in nice Malaysian Airbnbs
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My current airbnb doesn't have a TV remote, because some guess took it during checkout, like how the heck when packing your baggage you put a TV remote in it thinking "Yeah this is mine" ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ facepalm
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i think people just have a pile of stuff on the bed and scoop it up and drop it in. my airbnb in florence didn't have a remote for the fan for the same reason.
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Yeah, that is kind of the only viable explanation for something like this, packing up at the last minute by swooping everything on the sofa into their bag.
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lol I def do not have the luggage space for that
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everything gets neatly rolled up and packed
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mryuixwgwxvg You would have more space if you leveled up the skill of losing Apple pencils ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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I only have two apple pencils!
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Lose those and you have enough space for a small TV remote ๐Ÿ˜„
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I use prefer places with regular shower, but damn, a warm bath in the evening is a nice way to wind down ๐Ÿ›€
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It's probably too much clothing. Surely you don't need that much ezrkjilyrfxz
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I dunno; I have to do laundry like once a week
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Also, I *definitely* do not have enough bikinis
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If you only go to topless beaches, you can cut your bikini requires _in half_
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I mean, I should really find more nude beaches
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Then no bikini needs!
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Ohmygod. You'd get so much suitcase space back for more tea sets and rugs.
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Somehow Expedia transformed what was supposed to be a night's stay at a hotel into a week and of course I can't cancel. I'm pretty sure my search was for one night only, though.

I have to get out of here breakfast is the typical starch and sugar fest and it's noisy as hell at night so I don't sleep well. I'll probably have to eat the expense, but I'd rather do that.
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ask the hotel if you can cancel due to noise. they might let you without penalty and refund the money
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worst they can do is say no
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wegypuhpy Half of this thing >https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/fa1dce1c-2a08-46ea-b8cf-34a9bc52811a/svn/natural-clotheslines-hdc51760-64_1000.jpg> works well for a door stop, doesn't take a lot of space to travel with ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Good idea
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I used that in one of my rented flats when room door lock was broken, might not stop someone who really wants to get into room (but as Mythbusters Jr episode showed even furniture might not stop someone), but it worked very well for "I don't want anyone inside right now"
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thanks for encouraging me... the hotel staff have been great so I might have some luck.
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:+1:i think as long as you're nice and don't treat them like shit they'll likely help you to some extent
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How do u do that with the peg, klgtthhjui could not find it on google
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Maybe jam it at the bottom of the door, or even the top
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Ah, right. Iโ€™d still get a proper one I think :)
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oduskcbkv Yes, you jam it under the door (the door |, the pin /, end result |/), if someone tries to open it the friction quickly stops any movement
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unless the door is over tile, which is pretty common in newer apartments
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or the gap is too big
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My newest fear โ€” bali burglars ๐Ÿ˜
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yea Iโ€™ve heard itโ€™s been bad comparably in recent years
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The hotel wouldn't do a refund, but Expedia gave me a generous-size coupon valid till next November. And my new lodging is lovely and much closer to everything interesting.
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nice. glad it mostly worked out
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Well yeah, it won't work everywhere, but an easy and quick solution for most of the times.
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The only burglars I had so far in Bali was geckos and I don't mind them ๐Ÿ˜„
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fvhobxyrk but if in all seriousness that is this bali burglars thing about?
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nctmgdaqvf what a topic for a halloween night, huh :smile:
People report being visited in their villas while sleeping and being robbed. I cannot avoid it while I am not there, hopefully there is gonna be a safe for some of the stuff. But, hell, if somebody breaks in the same room I am sleeping I will loose sleep forever ๐Ÿ˜„
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That wouldn't surprise me, it seems like a popular way to steal stuff while the "owner" is sleeping. And from thief suggestions it seems like the easiest way to steal because often people forget to lock their doors, so they basically just get into some building and try all the doors. That shit also makes me anxious, someone trying to brake the doors gave me anxiety for years, not sure that would be the end result if you wake up and find your shit stolen ๐Ÿ˜ž
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I skimmed the article, but to be savvy I need to be aware of scams.

My take aways:
โ€ข Always communicate through AirBnb platform (as host or traveller)
โ€ข Cancel sooner and change accommodation
โ€ข Ask for refund ASAP
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Read article again, itโ€™s worse than that
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Airbnb doesnโ€™t seem to be giving full refunds on outright scams
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Man horrible.. makes me even more leery to use Airbnb
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Hotels are great
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Excellent read, thanks uygmrcujkmewee
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So many nomads rely on Airbnb, and itโ€™s not worthy of our trust
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an HN comment about this article `My perspective has been that โ€œwhen I use Airbnb I always have a plan bโ€. I do. I donโ€™t negotiate, if the listing has issues or was miss-sold I walk out and activate my plan b. Airbnb will always refund if you do it like that.`
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I think we skim by a bit because no scammer is going to accept a month-long booking (probably?), but itโ€™s so easy to see how airbnb is complicit here
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Yeah thatโ€™s true too tbcbdfroy
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I generally am not amenable to last minute โ€œbut wait, hereโ€™s my chalet :smirk:โ€
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Not being in the US also helps I think. The lack of oversight and regulation in the states puts money before people. You agreed to an alternative? The onus is now on you
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I will say, I do go through hosts other listings before booking a place. Iโ€™m going to live where Iโ€™m staying. This isnโ€™t a weekend away for me
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I've been meaning to build this for years now, since I started nomading but never got round to it ๐Ÿ˜›
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I personally only book airbnbs which have good reviews and willing to pay a bit more to avoid any situations where it might get complicated.
At the same time if something was at least a bit off I would start calling airbnb right away, like on the last airbnb I was standing outside the building and host was not replying to any of my communications (written or calls), was just a click away from calling airbnb (later found out that also an airbnb fucked up a bit by not sending me the last host messages, so it wasn't all the host issue)
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I like this part "Update 11/1/19 The morning after this article was published, the FBI contacted VICE about the claims made above."
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Seems like you've found U9X86CV7C's next destination.
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Holy crap, some songbirds are visiting the tree outside of my apartment. I need to figure out how to keep them coming back
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same way you buy the love of any animal. with food ๐Ÿ˜
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bird food
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yeah, I've honestly looked, but keep forgetting when I get to Home Depot. Bird feeders just aren't a thing here ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
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Should just order one on Amazon ๐Ÿ˜†
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fcwtwpemmmksxt A plastic bottle with some holes ๐Ÿ˜‰
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I have one, and some used take out chopsticks set aside for the day I find bird food... Anywhere
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nnxztuuxtacvop Buy some unsalted seeds?
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Yeah, that thought just crossed my mind... Go to the mercado and get some in bulk and mix up my own. Looking at the prices on Amazon, it might even be cheaper ๐Ÿ˜†
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You could probably also just throw in some fruit/vegetables/meat in the feeder
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Flying pigs?
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Hm, I guess some birds like fruit. Why did I not know this?
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I assume they need the sugar, no? keep their body weight down for flight
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I mean, hummingbirds drink sugar water donโ€™t they? ๐Ÿ˜›
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I guess it depends on the birds, but think they would eat a lot of stuff, like they eat worms (meat) and stuff. I know in Lithuania like some people just put a big peace of fat on metal hook during the winter for birds. Yeah, birds like hummingbirds would probably prefer sugar water.
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Yah, when I was younger, in the winter we'd leave out suet for the wintering birds
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Conundrum about damage and an AirBnb.
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came broken or you broke?
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I'm staying in an apartment that looks to have original wood floors from the early 20th century. Some olive oil leaked out of one of my bags while I wasnt looking and now there's a 6 by 6 inch area in the living room with a few spots.

The floors are generally in good condition, with a few spots here and there that have nothing to do with me. Bare hardwood floors in a rental are a setup for trouble IMO, and if I were the host this would be a cost of doing business, although I might ask for some compensation.

Having just sold a condo with worse floor damage, I can't say that at this price point these spots would not affect a sale price, and they won't affect ability to rent either. This is a nice place but it's not top of the line.

On the other hand I don't want to be a jerk about this, but I don't want to get roped into an entire overhaul of the floor at my expense.

Plan I took several pix, including pix of preexisting damage. I am inclined not to mention it unless she brings it up, at which point I'll ask her to make a suggestion as to compensation. I have a number in mind. If that doesn't work I'll get Airbnb customer service involved.
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I think I broke, tl;dr in thread
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That should be "I can say it wouldn't affect a price point" in para 3. Good old autocorrect, turning it off now.
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I'd give it a day or two and see how it settles in. If it's a pretty obvious stain I'd definitely say something. I've reported worse damage and had the owner shrug and say "no worries"
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I told her, we're meeting at 11 so she can have a look. Fingers crossed.
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Maybe buy more olive oil and spread it on the rest of the floor so it's even
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She seemed sad about it but wasn't sure what to do. I told her that if she hires a pro she can send me the bill.

In other adventures, there were mosquitoes in my hostel-like new Airbnb room last night as I move closer to the tropics there will be bugs, although bugs at 4 am is perhaps more than is reasonable.
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The kid who rents it out is a graphic designer and it was nice to chat with him and his roomie a little, but I'm glad I'm moving on today. It's barebones.
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jcbswpgxozyaibjyb Try looking for accommodation that has a mosquito net above the bed
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Good idea and I'll have to start doing that, just didn't think I'd have to do it at an urban stay ๐Ÿ™€
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tl;dr airbnb renter lies, tells host "family of 12 has asthma from fire, needs a place to rent on halloween", host warns "no hosting a party".. renter goes ahead and hosts party of 100+ people. a shooting happens
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not sure how airbnb is going to stop renters from renting houses for partying
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and of course the shooting has nothing to do with airbnb
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I found this quote from Chesky interesting:

โ€œMany of us in this industry over the last 10 years are going from a hands-off model where the internet is an immune system to realizing thatโ€™s not really enough,โ€ Mr. Chesky said. โ€œWe have to take more responsibility for the stuff on our platform. This has been a gradual, maybe too gradual, transition for our industry.โ€
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oh, so update on my friend who showed up and another dude was in his airbnb apartment when he arrived
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the other guy went to the wrong apartment because he was sent the wrong instructions by the owner
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vvjkfhsckyemyctul ah, good ole human error
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iwjqwtlnqkcpmfo if we're talking about the internet itself then the current trend is the corporatization of the internet, which i don't like.. but that quote seems to be more in the context of social media/speech over platforms rather than the internet per se
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Decentralised web is emerging though ^
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Albeit very premature
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bcukztuaw like ipfs?
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i guess i've been largely ignoring decentralized web even though i actually want it
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Yeah ipfs
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Web3
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i just feel pretty skeptical about most things in that area
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You can see engineers building
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So something will come out of it
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Hopefully
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hiya, i'm looking for shared accommodation in July and August whilst I let out my place in Spain. I am happy to travel to most places in Europe. Please PM me.
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I just got to a fishing lodge in a small Argentinian river town and the two middle aged guys present (who aren't the owners) checked me into a room on the strength of my English language AirBnb reservation ๐Ÿ˜ In the US I'd be a little weirded out, but here it's just country lodging business. Gonna take a walk around, it's lovely here
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How did you find such a place? Sounds ideal.
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AirBnB, believe it or not. Lonely Planet Shoestring guides are also good about listing this type of place.
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I wonder if there is special Hell for furniture you hit your toes on ๐Ÿค”
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dqkc you are not allowed to advertise here. Expect deletion at the best, banning at the worst once ngkvxv gets you.
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grum will find it eventually
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Heโ€™s late
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;P
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He's been quiet lately, haven't seen him around. Hope all is well
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:O
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PINGING hloiyd ARE YOU OKAY
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It was posted at 2AM and nobody messaged me, give me a break :P
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No, I tell a lie, a message was sent a few hours after and slack didn't send me an email. My bad.
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We were just worried you died
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Glad to see you didn't get pizza poisoning
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I miss pizza
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jljacxfwulkr there is turkish food here in canadia!
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mmmโ€ฆ.NYC pizza U039LMA57โ€ฆ.
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I was super excited that I finally found a nice studio in central Paris...and then the "landlord" asks me to deposit the money in a western union-like agency before the viewing ๐Ÿ˜” the search continues...
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xmynwf is our alert system for early robot uprising, if he doesn't reply for a long time it means they have overcame him and we should start getting ready to worship our robot overlords ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Or I've just got food poisoning
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Oh no
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It would be ironic if it was from pizza
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Ugh now I want pizza
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But I've broken up with cheese
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Although that didn't stop me from having chowder and bisque in Boston because needs
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mgeqolsjtgoc just no cheese or all dairy?
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Trying to cut out all dairy and slowly reintroduce to see what I can tolerate
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The bisque and chowder made me burp a lot but soooo worth it
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I had some problems with cheese in France a month ago :(
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I should try the same. I'm lactose intolerant but I don't really have issue with cheeses like I do with something like milk but I do notice I feel a need to clear my throat much more which is kind of gross after eating. It's some food allergy thing but it's pretty subtle and I suspect it's some dairy product. The thought of no cheese though ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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๐Ÿ˜ญ indeed
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Easier since I've been in Egypt
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Just have a designated cheese day
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One cheese day a week
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I've cut wayyyyy back on dairy myself over the last couple of years, and believe it or not I rarely miss pizza anymore. I never thought that would be the case.
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It used to be one of my four food groups
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Who else just thought of Grizzly Man?
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_Arrive at 1:58 PM and see a bear walking towards you_ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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just that one person though
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Okay ant update I really feel like I have to mention the mini ants here seriously in a review because I am not a messy person (clutter, yes, wet mess, no) and I literally realized there are ants in my bed this morning and that is why I am waking up a mess of bites
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How do I address this in the review?
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Am also going to mention to my cleaner who s coming in half an hour
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I would tell the host (if you haven't already). You don't want to spring a 2 star review on them if they haven't had a chance to address it
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They were also parading into my bathroom sink which doesn't even have toothpaste residue already
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I mentioned the ants to the cleaner weeks ago and she just suggested bug spray
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With the ants I had in dahab, I found their access point pretty easily, hit it with some ant spray my host had, and I never saw them again
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I can't even find their access points
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Hmmm so yeah, if they're not being helpful about it, definitely put it in a review
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Just sent this to the host:

Hi there! I will mention this to Sandra when she arrives shortly but I also wanted to let you know that in the last week the ants situation in the house has gotten pretty bad. I woke up today with a group of ants in my bed (and I do not eat in bed) which explains why I've been waking up bitten all this week. I am only here for a week longer but I think it would be worth getting someone to spray the entire house and find where they are coming from and caulk it up.
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Sandra is the cleaner
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"while i kept the apartment clean, I found there to be a lot of ants throughout. I even woke up with bites from them towards the end of my stay. [Host name] wasn't willing to help control the problem when I brought it up"

Something like this maybe? Last sentence is optional if you're feeling slighted.
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Yeah I like what you sent
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What I wrote is an idea for the review if it feels warranted
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Cleaners cannot make decisions. Always contact the host. They most likely have no idea of the problem
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In retrospect I should've messaged the host about the ants too when I messaged the cleaner about it
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So I do feel a little bad I didn't
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Makes sense
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She's the cleaner/local host
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Actual host doesn't live here
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Yeah but they tell her what to do
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Fair
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Ideally they will now get someone out here soon but realistically, this being Dahab, I may end up spending my last week ant bitten :/
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also better to message it in the airbnb app, that way both owner and host see it, and will take it a bit more seriously
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yeah that's such a bummer for your last week. there must be a way to keep them in check
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I also have to now give all the plushies a bath because the ants in my bed were on and around them too
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And I can't cuddle them thinking they might be ant infested ๐Ÿ˜ฑ
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nooooooo
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protect the travel crew!!!
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mgnadajqecea when that happened to me in the Solomon Islands the owner brought me a can of ant killer. I sprayed it in front of the door before leaving in the morning a few times and my bed was immediately ant free
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They're definitely not coming in from the front door
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They're largely concentrated in the kitchen and bathroom
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But the bedroom is the other side of the apartment from the kitchen and bathroom so now I'm at a loss
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And bitten
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mine were coming in from a power point
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I've been spraying with the bug spray
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The can I was using was marked ant killer. Maybe those little devils need a particular poison?
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๐Ÿ˜‚ rather
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Emopos are the worst
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(I am making this a word for emoji typos, deal with it)
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Some random person who was trying to buy some crap Iโ€™m getting rid of sent me an emopos today and it was super awk
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we always end up getting ants at some point. Our joke it โ€œwell, we got antsโ€ฆ time to move!โ€

They can be pretty unstoppable in many situations unfortunately depending on the openness of the living space. You mainly have to spray the house perimeter regularly.
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mtgqoiokm `we always end up getting ants at some point` maybe you are carrying the eggs in your backpack or something
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naw, we eat a lot of fruit and honey haah
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we are ant magnets ๐Ÿœ
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_AntListโ„ข_
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Emopo singular!
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๐Ÿ˜‚ Can we verb it too?
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Yes! I emopoโ€™d? Emopoed? Emoped?
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joyjoyjoy
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Kind of peeved when Airbnb hosts do the bare minimum; not enough to cancel or fault them but certainly not going to get a rave review
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And I am not even there yet
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For my Cape Town Airbnb, starting in a week or so
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Things like:

Me hey can you look into upgrading the internet while I'm there and I'm happy to pay the difference?
Host the speed we have is what we offer

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Me hey can you help me with an airport transfer on arrival?
Host Uber works

So yes both of these are actual answers but like the bare minimum effort
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(I am paraphrasing their response obvi but the gist is there)
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I think you can assign the number of stars you think appropriate. For example I'm in a great one right now and now I regret giving 5 star reviews to some of my past stays, although I doubt that anyone is tracking my average
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I haven't even gotten there yet and this is the "hospitality" I am getting
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Also he didn't even answer a third question I had (regarding any information on car rentals)
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I'm not suuuper concerned except if he's this blase if I eg lock myself out of the apartment and need someone to let me in, and he doesn't respond in any useful way, I will be super peeved
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I guess I'm due though I've had nearly universally good to great Airbnb experiences so far
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Airbnb will resolve if something actually happens
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๐Ÿคจ
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I couldn't find a better emoji for what I am feeling right now
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Partly because I can't be bothered to see if there is a snowflake emoji (I'm sure there is)
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<hug>
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Uber there really is the best option
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it is cheap and reliable
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Feel free to damn with faint praise in the review
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Ive never been asked to do such things as a host, nor have I expected the host o do for me honestly. Some hosts do have a template message with basic into such as how to reach their place, and maybe best ways to navigate around town, but most of those are usually airbnb management agencies who take a crazy high cut of the pay for such low volume work.
But in general, airbnb is not hotels kind of service and I feel responsible to research my way around. Maybe just ask to confirm Ive done the best choice at the most (is uber the best way to reach the flat from the airport?).
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nah, Iโ€™d expect help like that from my host. Theyโ€™re usually happy to help
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Not a single host Iโ€™ve asked has refused to help with basic enquiries like arranging airport transfers etc
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The review process makes clear that outstanding service gets the goods
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hell, my airbnb hosts have frequently picked me up for free
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Right now I'm at an Airbnb where the host has arranged several activities for me. I'm kind of sorry I've given so many five star reviews because she really deserves it
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awwqyyrai maybe itโ€™s regional?
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I take these more as exceptions, and not needed for a 5 star. If the flat is what is says, clean, and the host is there if I really need them (something happens) thats good enough
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oxvludmedg what do you mean?
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I've stayed in multiple Airbnbs that are just managed properties and even they are happy to at least arrange an airport transfer
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Maybe for an exorbitant upcharge but the offer is still there
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management agencies are actually focused on offering extra services as they have the resources and charge a the host a good amount (20-30% of the price of the guests stay)
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Yeah so in this case my bad for just not staying in a managed Airbnb as opposed to one run by actual people, then
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It's not making me terribly eager to help the "little person" in the future
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(I did not choose this Airbnb based on that criterion but it may become a filter for me)
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If an Airbnb host is providing basically the same thing as a furnished sublet then all
I'm getting is the saving the N hours in finding a locals FB group and getting an actual sublet
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At something closer to local rental prices, would then be my expectation
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My benefit of using Airbnb is both the accoms and the host
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Maybe message some of them upfront before booking and see who responds to such requests
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I message every host before I book; I never just book blindly
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This host was reasonably responsive on inquiry
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Tbf it didn't occur to me until after booking to ask for eg a temporary internet speed upgrade
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those usually involve yearly contractsโ€ฆ
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There are many places in the world you can temporarily upgrade your internet speed
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If the problem was it's not possible because of contracts, it would've been much more friendly to say that instead of essentially "you get what we said we have"
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None of this means it's a bad Airbnb, but even before I've arrived I don't think I will be leaving a 5* review
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I am not commenting on the tone as you said you are paraphrasingโ€ฆ
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"We are only able to offer this internet speed."
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Throughout Argentina I've had actual people hosts, many of whom have been happy to pick me up at bus terminals, help me find local resources, etc. They aren't all as proactive as current host, but they haven't issued robotic replies like angelicism got. Flat replies that aren't helpful tend to piss me off when I get them elsewhere, and would lead me to ding a star or two.
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zeuwwxzndjqc even in avg they handled the upgrade to 200mbit
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Uh oh, between when I booked my CPT place and now someone has left a scathing review
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Which includes the internet doesn't work
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I'm concerned now
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I sent a message asking for clarification on the internet sitch
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punpkzutve I may want your magical emergency Airbnb phone number in advance just in case
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gfipscoytzhx of course.
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If you get shitty answers from him, be direct
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Iโ€™m almost wondering if I should pre-email Airbnb support with my concerns
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Switch to documentation mode
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Nah, they need something to work with
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Document it via chat so they have an easy case
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Yeah itโ€™s all in Airbnb messaging so far
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Itโ€™s not like they can force him to install better internet
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But they can def cancel you if itโ€™s not ok or he wonโ€™t help
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Iโ€™m worried about finding another place available for my rough date range, which includes the holidays
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Maybe they didnโ€™t want to go into detail with you about how theyโ€™re stealing internet from the neighbors ๐Ÿค”
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Ugh, Airbnb silently declined a payment I made for a service my host was going to do for me, and it led to a communication problem between me and host. I'm testing a regular reservation with my card now just to make sure the same thing doesn't happen.
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So CPT host responded that no internet review was from 2 months ago (except it says October 2019 so I guess teccccchnically it could've been the last week of Sept) and that fiber has since been installed
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So sounding positive
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That's a good sign. Yes, it is totally unreasonable to expect a certain level of service especially relative to the price you pay for the accommodation. An Airbnb is not a hotel but just like hotels, price should reflect quality, customer service and amenities provided.
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I must say especially when it comes to internet, even hotels with a certain quality standard can have unbelievably bad service. I remember Hilton Doubletree London, where I could not even watch a small video that was embedded in a website (like news or something). Usually my AirBnBs are much cheaper, and in most of them the internet is ok-ish.
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koarqxlmhanl Keep screenshot of those messages, if you arrive and it's not true you have some proof while complaining to airbnb
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It's all in the Airbnb messaging system +1skin-tone-3
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Yeah that is good, I personally never agree to host suggestions to use something which is more "convenient"
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airbnb's website is ๐Ÿ’ฉ
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loading a wishlist just crashes the whole website out
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so now I have to be a heathen and use an excess of tabs
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I know, but I will continue to gripe about it until someone fixes it. I demand results U03Q8GR1G!!
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rjougudbstgac I think you will turn to dust sooner than before someone fixes it. That is one of the reasons why I sometimes prefer to make my own changes to at least get something (not like any of big companies are making that any easier)
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oh yeah, you had that great add-on you made. Smart man. I have finally found a reason to get back into coding ๐Ÿ˜…
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Yeah, kind of one of the reasons, just to help out myself, it's still on my todo list to make some improvements and do it shareable, but still haven't came to it (should do that soon because will need it soon) :smile:
I still like often inject some CSS in a lot of sites, like using normal font size (so you don't need to be an eagle to see anything), or hiding notification badges (I get too distracted by them) or even whole sections of them, usually sites end up looking more broken but at least they become more functional ๐Ÿ˜„
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haha you take a very open source mindset to the internet ๐Ÿ˜‚
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I guess I just gave up on any of the "big guys" "fixing" things, so like whatever makes my life easier. So like I bothered Audible for a while to add some filters and stuff, that never happened, so I just created my own bookmarklet which just hides downloaded audiobooks so I have easier time to know what should I read next ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
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Like the saying goes _If mountain doesn't come to you, you chip off small pieces of it until you have your own mountain_ ๐Ÿ˜„
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haha that's a good saying
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Why is that web page playing music?!?!
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When I read the offers back in the day, I remember a condition that you need to move there for x amount of years.
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holkhxpwvfvunj it also auto replays when you least expect it! #websitesfromhell
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fhruagwkpjronv there's always a cost troll
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That price is too high. Noped out of that right away
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pvwwywapbpfyxe `Silent Site Sound Blocker` for Chrome is a wonderful thing ๐Ÿ˜‰
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The idea sounds interesting.
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Uff, they're changing the modem in my place, due to an ISP merger. Knowing how this goes, I'm skeptical it's going to be better.
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Not looking so good... he's changing the cables too, from fiber ๐Ÿ˜›
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Wait. *from* fibre??
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YES
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Da fuq??
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My thoughts exactly
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Do you have a lease, or is this Airbnb?
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Airbnb converted to month to month
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Man this guy is taking his good old time
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Welp, still fiber, thankfully. He didn't do much but fiddle around at the pole and waste 2.5 hours of my life. At least I got the floor clean now :stuck_out_tongue:

Speeds are the same
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Weird
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But, hurrah! ๐ŸŽ‰
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Good sites for finding short term accommodation in the US (Vegas)?
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there is a short term section on craiglist.
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Has anyone besides me been having trouble accepting special offers on AirBnB lately? As in, as soon as clicking โ€œBook Itโ€, it reloads the main reservation page with the non-discounted price.
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Their customer support has been pretty useless. Even when I provide screenshots + a semi-professional QA test case to follow they seem more than a little reluctant to admit itโ€™s a bug and escalate it.
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qyqocfzmjvgivwdf Do you maybe change anything from the booking (like the amount of guest)? Might be looking at some airbnbs in a week will see if have this problem
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I actually tried changing the length of the stay during the conversation with the host and was unsuccessful getting that change to trigger in the conversation window. However I think thatโ€™s a separate bug, because the host sent the special offer to my wifeโ€™s account which is separate to mine and she was also unable to book it under the special deal terms.
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Maybe try on different device (like if it happens on phone try on laptop)
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That would be a very annoying bug
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Is anyone interested in sharing an airbnb in July/august in eastern Europe somewhere? pm me!
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Anyone used NomadX () here? Good? Bad?
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How many days does it take Airbnb to publish my traveller review of a host? I'm up to 5 days ago. I'm thinking the superhost didn't like my spicy review ๐ŸŒถ and maybe hide my review?
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hxyieptxqzk I think each person has 14 days to leave a review and until both parties left it they are not published, so might just be that your host didn't have time to publish his yet
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Can a superhost hide it?
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I doubt anyone can hide reviews, I guess they could say it's not true if they really did not agree with it, but that is about it ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
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Reviews can be removed for breaking the Content Rules
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Still you probably would have learned about that, I think someone here had left bad review once on airbnb, host didn't like it, and guest got banned from airbnb for the review
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Nah, Airbnb often times just doesn't publish negative reviews at all without any explanation.
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Had this happen 2 times on my last US trip
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And not even writing their customer support gave any explanation
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Read on a couple of sites that they try everything to prevent negative reviews, as their goal is not to create a perfect representation of how good these different apartments are, but to win the competition against hotels and hostels on other websites
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That's why you will almost never find a listing under 4.5/5 whereas there are many hotels on e.g. booking with less than 7.0/10
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but did the host review got posted on your profile? as it was explained above, both parties need to leave a review to get posted. If only one party does, it doesnt get posted.
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mm, strange. I once wanted my review to be removed from the site and after talking to support they made clear it's not something they do
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so I'm very surprised that happens
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Airbnb has to value hosts over guests, especially with all the new laws and limitations that got many people to delete their listings or only offer them for limited times.
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I started using Airbnb in 2011 and the quality has suffered heavily.
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I had a thing in Beijing with a crazy host and a dirty apartment, we got our money back from Airbnb then booked another place. Then the host wrote us a super bad review full of lies, obvi we wrote a bad review (but truthful) and after we saw their review. Airbnb came in and removed both our reviews and closed the case
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That's why I only book hotels now
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Had so many great experiences w Airbnb around 2015/2016
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Then after so many bad
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Stayed in a garden shed in LA where the main house was occupied by meth heads
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$150/n ofc
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If you google "vice airbnb", there should be a very interesting story about how certain listings are being managed and how much Airbnb support cares.
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I'm going to knock on so much wood but I've had generally good experiences still
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Can't think of the last actually bad Airbnb experience
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Except my host for my upcoming one has been a little meh already about answering
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yyyrtmhxh Great, thanks for the property article. Now my bf wants to buy one of the castles.
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I blame you for this
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I had a bad Airbnb review once
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The host wrote I was a psycho
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I ... obviously asked to have it removed
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REally?? If only one party doesn't post then mine doesn't get posted??
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was it removed?
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oauvaypznbmodw nice.. honestly I was half expecting wqhltilnwkhjg to consider buying a castle but itโ€™s fine if you guys do instead ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Yup. It says it on the review page.
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Iโ€™ve had bad checkins but Airbnb resolves
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*resolved
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As someone with over 100 positive reviews Iโ€™d like to think that carries weight with issues
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100?!
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Ah I just use hotels for short stays, generally
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qvczrkwxcuobou go halfsies on a castle? Iโ€™m sure theyโ€™re large enough to split. You take one wing and weโ€™ll take another.
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gwwsanwje you can take another wing.
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Yeah, it was removed gifqeoeqnuidroj
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Wait, speaking of castles, The Crown season 3 is out today! Pardon me while I go binge.
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Has this changed? It used to be if only one party does, it doesn't get posted UNTIL 14 DAYS PASSED. Basically, AFAIU Airbnb doesn't want the review from other side impact on how you write your review. But if one side decides not to post a review, that's fine - they lose the ability after 14 days, and the side that did write review is posted then. At least that's how it used to be.
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Iโ€™d go there! ๐Ÿคฃ
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Interesting that their booking dot com description doesnโ€™t state itโ€™s a gay resort but the other photos certainly point in that direction.
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It doesnt get posted at all afaik
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For $890 a night it had better be good
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Reviews say donโ€™t set foot in the place. Most of the reviews are families so Iโ€™m really confused about their marketing.
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I think itโ€™s 890 MXP, which is around US$45. Sometimes they use the $ in Mexico. Itโ€™s confusing.
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Boss "What's the cheapest beachy photo you can get?"

Graphic Designer -takes a screenshot from Grindr- "Got the photo, boss"
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I asked an Airbnb host, what's their download speed?
> Super fast wi-fi..No limit
astonished
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In some countries the WiFi is โ€œcappedโ€ at a certain amount of data per month (say 100GB), and thatโ€™s what some hosts believe youโ€™re asking about. You need to clarify youโ€™re asking about the data transfer rate, and walk them through performing a speedtest.
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They offer nice butt massages
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100%
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โ€œPlease use internet search to look for โ€˜internet speed testโ€™ and click on the first result. This will give you 2 numbers.. a down load number and an upload number. Both will look something like โ€˜10mbpsโ€™ or โ€˜0.3โ€™ mbps. Please give me both numbersโ€
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This normally avoids any Airbnb blocks on message content
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I forgot to use coasters and left some water rings on a wood table in my Airbnb. O_O How would you guys handle this if it were you?
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Also scratched it up by being an idiot. I think I can fix the scratches, but the water rings might require sanding and I feel like that might just make things worse
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ohxesqldtazoj let it dry?
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It is dry; I didn't notice them till they were several days old
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I'm talking about actual stains on the wood
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Wear and tear? Don't bring it up unless they do
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It's it like you can fix it without a woodshop in your suitcase
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#_housing/CQ1C12DJN (RIP) mash up post why are so many airbnb hosts with 2+ bedroom apartments completely unprepared for someone asking for more than one set of keys ๐Ÿ™„
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Yeah, I would say it's host problem if they decide to put things that easily stain, just regular wear and tear (like if you spilled a glass of wine on sofa yeah it's your fault, but if putting a glass of water damages the furniture it's just stupid furniture and should be burned)
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oh help there is definitely a child living on my floor here (in cape town) who is currently screaming in the hallway jesus christ someone be a parent
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_The child was never seen again_ - Narrator
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Use noise cancelling headphones ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿ™‚
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Current airbnb place has remote controller metallic blinds on windows... and about 70% of each door is from glass, so you have this result where it feels like you are sleeping in the room where someone left the light on (very bright light on the outside of the apartment).... why ?!?!? facepalm
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AirBNB taking 15 days to get me a refund the host and I both agreed on... I can't roll my eyes hard enough at this.....

I suppose its better than the 6-8 weeks Taag Airlines told me it could be for an airfare refund
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You might not be logged into the same account as the one that is being emailed to you. Otherwise sounds like a very tricky bug
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zpjplhtwly You can try bother their support. Like once then all my money was frozen due to all reservations before booking support said sorry for having to wait until you get your money back and for inconvenience gave me like couple hundred โ‚ฌ coupon (I asked if where is a way to get it back sooner because all my money is frozen and I can't book an airbnb until I get it back)
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Yeah, sometimes writing to support helps)
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always a good choice to try support. and luckily you can just message with them if you are someone who despises phone calls
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I love it when I can write an AirBnB review that starts out with "I loved staying here"
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most of my stays in S America have been quite good, but there have been some standouts
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my first stay (Tucson) was arguably one of the best
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So many five star reviews are not five star worthy. "I loved staying here" deserves a five, but nothing else
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Sigh, I've done that type of review as well, the five star that didn't deserve it
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Iโ€™m sure they too empathize more when they hear a real person on the other end ๐Ÿ™‚
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