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Hey what do people use to prepare for ielts nowadays?
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Can a non-native speakers suggest how do you advance your English apart of just using it?
Especially speaking and writing parts. Did you try some advance grammar courses/books?
I can use English in everyday life without a problem, but I feel a big gaps sometimes if I try to explain something more complicated or write an articles in a more enjoyable way.
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abfldsml Iโ€™m monolingual, never learned another language properly yet, so feel free to ignore my suggestions.. one suggestion might be to read out loud some complicated parts in a book, get used to speaking the complex terminology perhaps
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As for writing in an interesting way, maybe if you have some role models, some examples of writing that you aspire to, could try comparing against that somewhat
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Thereโ€™s an app called Hemingway that might help with writing nicely a bit
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Good writing takes many drafts.. and lots of editing
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So some patience and going back and editing your writing multiple times
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Maybe over months or years ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Nice advices thank you!
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And thanks for the app, never heard about it before
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fybkbqnv get a native coach preferrably American with neutral accent who highlights what you're mispronouncing
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If you need better knowledge of words/speaking, sorry the best way is actual IRL practice
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There's no shortcuts
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My speaking English drastically improved when I started traveling to UK when I was DJ
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Like decade ago
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Hmm, good idea about the coach, is there any coach aggregators?
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Then again improved when traveling in general
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Yeah it could be a problem Iโ€™m always in non-english countries
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3 months living in US also will help
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and mostly speaks with non-natives
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No but just google there's loads of online services now
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Usually u do video call
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Actually that is nice practice
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habzxmwper an American with a neutral accent is typically called a Canadian
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I heard Korean schools love English teachers from Canada due to the neutral accent heh
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ttvigfqcw yeah I heard ppl say that but every Canadian I met says aboot
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Not neutral to me at all
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Canadians sound weird
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Maybe eastern Canadians say that
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Californian is neutral
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Canadians in general they all have some funky tones
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French Canadian say aboot
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Rather than about
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I heard English Canadian too
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They all sound weird
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But Koreans obsessed with Canada
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Usually accent of tv anchormen = Canadian accent
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Very neutral
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California English > Canadian English > American English
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Interesting perspective
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You're USian?
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Nah Canadian.. honestly Iโ€™m just talking out of my ass based on what my dad told me, he also taught English in Korea for a year back in 2000
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for finding a coach/tutor i've really loved italki
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Interesting that Californian English is considered the neutral US variant. I wonder if that's because all the media that foreigners consume is made there
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Growing up in the states, the Midwest accent was my "neutral"
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Iโ€™m assuming that idea of californian english being the standard is due to hollywood media as well (no idea?). I donโ€™t think they have a neutral accent - itโ€™s a distinct californian accent
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Side thought - would listening to audio books narrated by a neutral-accent native speaker be a good alternative? bulbbulbbulb
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Gives you extended one on one time listening to a native speaker
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California is the melting pot of all accents from anywhere
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LA girl isn't neutral obvi
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But general Californian would be for me
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That's what I call American
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But I'm euro
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So TLDR Europeans think California is neutral and Americans think Canadian is neutral
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SoCal has a distinct accent
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So I've been looking at some language schools courses and one thing I notice is they're all kind of trying to make things easy/fun for the average learner, get them speaking a few words right off the bat etc
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but I was kind of thinking it'd be interesting to have a course that spent several months on just the hardest parts up front
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things like tones, pronunciation, listening, etc
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for thai language w/ 5 tones, i wonder if spending a month or two on nothing but tones & the thai script language up front would pay off in the long run, don't even spend any time learning any words for example
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most people learning a second language end up speaking more of a pidgin because of the lack of time spent drilling on the hard parts perhaps
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they end up too focused on vocabulary and not on fundamentals?
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I know a girl here who does English language instruction, and she was telling me the first thing she does is work with tonality, and reproducing the tones of words before starting on the actual words. She claims it makes learning and reproducing the language far easier
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