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If you're developing a SaaS product then we've just released an article on designing an effective landing page. Thoughts welcome!! blog.jupiterandthegiraffe.com/tech-startup-guide-to-designing-an-effective-landing-page-that-converts-your-saas-product
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Yeah, I need a bit of a kick start on it, but I think will be worth the support it brings
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I'm one week from launch, two months from money running out - what point do you start to panic? (Also - anyone done Crowdcube?)
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If you've launched, had no revenue and are a week or two from running out of money then it is time to get a side gig / day job
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What is your pricing structure like? How much will it take for you to break even?
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If sales go how I hope, within six months of launch (I've invested my savings and got a business loan)
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What are your future sales numbers based on?
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Ok, wait…you have two months of money left but you expect to break even in six months? What is happening in months two to six?
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Does any here have a FoundersCard? Just learned of it and curious of your experience.
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I have founders card. Never use it.
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It really hasn't provided me much value.
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I keep forgetting to cancel it.
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It's not even a physical card, is it? Just some sort of membership?
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It's a physical card. Shiny and stuff. Has no value to me besides the stripe benefit, which i believe is still good after cancellation. I got a 6 month free trial and I'm glad I didn't pay for it...
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The USA USIDFC comes online this October 1st. It will provide funding to entrepreneurs doing "social good" in developing countries.

www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/oct-3-2018-administrator-green-statement-creation-usidfc
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Sounds like a dire situation, considering the radio silence...
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Ya.. the do or dire culture I think can be rather toxic. It's very true that desperation breeds innovation but it can also breed irrationality and stress. No one seems to talk about moon lighting anymore even though plenty of solid business are built that way especially in the early stages.
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Agreed!
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Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll take a pass.
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does anyone have a good recommendation for site/api status monitoring
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can link it into slack
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currently use the free version of this
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didnt know they did a status page
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will check it
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Ya with the paid version you can poll pages and check for text, you could do that to verify APIs are functional and returning proper responses.
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I know a fair amount of people who use www.pingdom.com/product/uptime-monitoring/
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Don't think there is a free version though
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I'm using Nagios.. it's a bit more advanced, you need to set that up yourself on a server etc, but you can go 'deeper' (like query your own database, etc)
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and it's free
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I use site24x7 in production and have liked it. UI sucks, but great bang for the buck, especially if you need to monitor different layers of infrastructure. AWS integration is great for minutoring things like lambda/sqs. I prefer pingdom, but it's a lot more expensive.
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Ah ha - I missed these replies sorry guys. I meant that's assuming I make zero sales from launch to two months... but I have forecast to have made back the money within six months... does that make sense? I'm not adverse to moonlighting, just need to get the MVP out and promoted everywhere I can think off before I look at that, which I think will be in next two weeks (soft launch tomorrow to F and F)
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Grafana for all kinds of monitoring graphing and alerts, although doesn't do uptime checks on its own
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Plugins for that
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IMO only interesting if you know you will need more monitoring than just uptime
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We switched from pingdom to uptime robot, they are do the exact same thing just pingdom has a nicer interface and is a fraction of the cost.
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Plus it was way easier to hook up to slack
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I like updown.io
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they have a great status page
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I also really like nodeping.com, because they have some really advanced checks
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the UI isn't great, but I can set up checks for headers, and content in the HTML
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freshping seems to have good free options
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freshping looks nice but paid for basic auth / headers
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definitely site24x7 - they have the most extensive monitoring capabilities and extensive network
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might not be worth it if you're just looking for ping monitoring, but they've even added dead man's switches, "complete" notifications, etc
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Also, worth mentioning, grafana's worldping
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Monit is really good mmonit.com/monit/ but you gotta self host it
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We moved to thousandeyes recently. Really like it, it has a breakdown of BGP, so you can see what internet providers are not able to access monitored resources
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Hey, you guys are up to date on the latest apps DAK of one that helps nomads coordinate overlapping travel? e.g. between x and y date I plan on being in z city. To clarify, an app dedicated to that, not a do-it-all like NL
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TIL DAK does anybody know
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i think there's a couple of apps like that, but i don't know their names off hand
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kaqohehmcojk are you looking for something to share that information or just a place to keep track for yourself?
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I can think of solutions for myself (GCal), but it gets harrier when trying to compare my travel plans with my buddy's from Serbia and the gal from Macedonia and my college friend flying across Europe this fall and my cous… you get the idea. So, tldr share
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I usually keep track of my itinerary via TripIt…which can be shared…but that isn't necessarily an elegant way of finding overlapping info
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is there a nice provider for basic "company services" for a lean startup (i.e. cheap) or do I have to use several providers for different things? I mean, things like email, task management, file sharing etc.?
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I've been using TripIt a lot recently, but it doesn't have the best UX
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cqzadgtiuplc G Suite?
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yeah, probably G Suite will be "fine", if only it wasn't google's 😄
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might have to use it, after all
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I'll have a look at Triplt, thanks
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if you need anti-google G Suite, Zoho has all the same tools
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Yandex also offers similar I think
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thanks!
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I'll give that a shot, thank you!
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I can do the comparison for overlapping manually, as long as there's an interface to enter the data into
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Anyone have recommendations on user testing platforms?
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We have a site we're launching and want to run 20-30 users through it to test some minor flow stuff, before we spend a lot on ads.
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Priced a couple places like usertesting.com and don't really want to spend $2-3k on this
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try validately (can't post link), their free trial has remote testing for abt 10 ppl, if you don't mind copying and pasting the guidelines a couple of times with different accounts it's pretty good 😄
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Awesome, thank you
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Don't mind paying, just can't handle $65 per recording for this project haha
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Tripit is cool because you can just forward items to an email address and it parses it all
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Well for the recording part of things crazy egg is pretty cool…and is like 49 per month…doesn't help with getting users to the site though
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My company has had good results from TryMyUI dot com.
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Bit late on this but i'd vote Validately. They have a free trial I believe!
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Oh just seen that rnqvrktl recommended the same!
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uvbodlzoucwx Does usertesting do alacarte? I feel like I used them and then one time I went back and they changed their model where you had to purchase a minimum amount of tests per month.
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I used usertesting for another project a couple years ago and it was $65 per test. Now, it's either a $7500/mo plan or an alacarte with a minimum of 15 tests...hard to tell current pricing
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I guess what I really could do is drive users to the site for pretty cheap & then use Hotjar or Yandex Metrica to record.
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Yeah, hotjar is good
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I prefer crazy egg to that, but both good
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Any advice for creating a business bank account online? I'm from the US but won't be home anytime soon and need one for a company.
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Azlo will let you do everything online
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Have a look at Transferwise--I got everything accomplished using it as a business 'bank account'
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xovskxhe is that the borderless account?
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Yes
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Cool, I've been thinking of checking it out
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I had a bit of a rocky start due to stupid compliance questions, but now things run smoothly. Can recommend it.
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Transferwise, Revolut, N26 all offer biz accs
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I freaking love Transferwise.
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I use it as our business "bank account" as well for eCommerce
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It doesn't hold the funds for long, it just acts as the middleman.
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I also use it personally to pay for services in different countries, as it allows you to open a "bank account" in each country and pay in the local currency.
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I love Transferwise too. I also signed up for Mercury, which is promising mercury.co
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I like their focus on modern security and an open API, e.g. Authy or Google Authenticator for 2FA
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Just please, please, please, don't keep your money in Transferwise.
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oh interesting, why is that?
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It's not a real bank with government-backed security.
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So if they go under, you don't get any protection.
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So they secure up to 100k euros.
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yeah that's a good point
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ahh I see
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fwiw Mercury provides FDIC insured bank accounts, and it's backed by Evolve Bank & Trust
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But to be fair, Transferwise isn't meant to be a bank account.
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For now, at least
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I use it to collect and transfer but not store
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I am sure they are working on getting backed.
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I love transferwise
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Got their licence but they're not using it yet
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transferwise borderless allows you to actually get "bank account" in the states and then transfer money easily to europe with minimal charges, that's pretty awesome
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also in australia / nz / uk and I don't remember where else
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ddortkwbafizm checking out Mercury now, thanks
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Any payment gateway recommendations that support CIS countries? We've got Stripe and PayPal set up in our SaaS, but our target market is actually Moldova/Belarus/Ukraine and I'm having a difficult time finding a provider that supports them
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Been exploring 2Checkout but the approval process is really clunky and onerous
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cvnwixcytxqx I know Stripe just announced a support for a bunch of new countries (very happy about it), but don't think your mentioned countries are in that. Think your choice would be Braintree or how that one owned by Google is called.
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I don't know if they support it but maybe look at Ayden?
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yeah, in cis countries it's a bit difficult, but I think paying with paypal is pretty common here
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can you accept payments from those countries on paypal?
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Adyen is only interested in high volume customers
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My client had to practically beg them to get an account
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WebMoney is still big in Russia afaik, they're quite liberal on who can open an account
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Yes, we can accept payment via PayPal (and I've already got that set up, it's definitely easiest for us) but would like a traditional credit card processor as well
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The good thing is, our competitors in this niche only take bank transfers...and this is a SaaS model...
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I've used Qiwi before for CIS-based countries
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just, going to rant a little bit, but I swear to God sometimes the education sector makes me want to claw my eyes out.
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You bend over backwards and they can still act like complete dicks.
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end rant
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Some of the most entitled clients are in this sector.
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Don't get me started.
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dctdgpxwlbpxfrggx can you elaborate? I'm building a startup that sells to education, and I'm hoping I can avoid some unforeseen headaches 😅
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though in my experience I've long held an aversion to working with nonprofits (generally speaking)
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is there a platform that can easily digitize the voice of someone and input text and read out that text in that voice?
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you mean voice to text?
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text to voice... I know that I can have a computer speak "This is text" but can I digitize my voice so I can have it say "this is text" in my voice
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using some API
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I vaguely remember a couple of weeks ago seeing a new platform that did this
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Google Deepfake AI voice :)
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SAAS solution Google for "descript lyrebird ai" - i pasted a link but the bot deleted it. Am new to this slack, didn't know that links get removed.
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Lyrebird is what I was looking for!
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Might check out WellSaid, I've met the people from there. Backed by the Allen Institute.
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Descript bought it out, I thought
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And their launch was 🎆 amazing
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Had anyone here done business in france?
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What are the benefits of using something like this? Lower taxes?
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A single client two years ago for ~6 months. I have not pursued anything in France since.
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Not because of the client, our point person was nice enough if a little uptight, but the level of red tape was ridiculous.
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gjdyxocykfpj I am having a similar issue. I am being asked for a certificate of registration for my business and they want the invoice by mail and stamped with our corporate seal.
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I thought maybe it was like the USA where I needed to register with the IRS to get a TIN number and a w-8ben-e but from my research it seems like I need to have an actual french corporation.
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I hate working with them but I am going to see if I can find a software reseller in france.
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That sounds more complicated than our situation (we were consulting, not selling a product) but they needed a stupid level of documentation and paperwork.
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wow, no wonder they only want to work 25-30 hours a week
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They simply can't work more than that. Everything else is taking care of the red tape
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Ehm… Yeah, being an entrepreneur isn't the same as "I just work here" and that's how it's supposed to be. Entrepreneurs need freedom not policies, regulations and limitations. My second real off-the-grid vacation in 8 years is coming up next week (2 weeks, yey!).
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I think the only off grid vacation I had in the last 10 years was this July. Generally the closest I get to a vacation is I can work 30 minutes each night for a couple weeks.
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Did they really need a survey for that 😂
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cdyfmasmbfxzgyc where are you going if you don't mind me asking?
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I one time did a 10 day vipassana, and was too stressed about things breaking in production ... bad sign
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going to SA for a lux safari + food/wine bender cape winelands
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my thinking is I'll be either too scared or drunk to care about work even if there was wifi
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I think that is one thing people don't really understand if they have never owned a business. Sure we have more freedom but it is also very hard to near impossible to take a completely disconnected vacation like an employee.
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In 5 years as a freelancer I never really took a vacation, and in 3 years as an owner I've taken even less.
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I was in the same boat and never took a vacation with my last company. Then I sold the company, took 2 years off. Now building the next company and intentionally building in ways of taking unplugged vacations.
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I need to get a better schedule for work, and then take more time off that's electronics free
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I think most of the non-vacation for me is actually psychological rather than a necessity
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I _could_ take off but ultimately...I don't really _want_ to
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I've got a project manager heading out for their annual 10-day vipassana. They're well backed up
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sitting for 10 days will let some 'demons' to the surface, no doubt.
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Erm.... I run a start up trying to solve this
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Also
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💯
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How are you attempting to solve this?
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Small group travel trips for Business owners, filled with cultural activities and attractions , scheduled work time and business networking and introductions x
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But what if I _want_ to work?
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Well perhaps a co working retreat would work for you? X
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^ Sounds really positive to me, nice idea!
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etukvige thankyou ok_handskin-tone-3
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mfixpqpfm i think
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as part of the startupschool thing last year
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ieegktzwtbo you already did a YouTube video thing?
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I didn't get past that step so no recommendations..
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I can't remember if tbqsvhiwridgthgb also applied to yc
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Hmm, there's definitely been a few others in here though
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Yes but without success
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lnhmemgvetm what's the idea btw?
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Probably not yet
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wpuhllbttvn I imagine they'd be looking at your ideas in terms of finding new ways to grow that app or your ideas in general but what do I know 😉
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Good luck!
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good luck bgeilthirfw
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If there any startups here that have found decisions in Slack with your remote teams to be a pain (finding what was decided in the past, announcing, buy-in and approval processes) and would be open to testing a new slack app to address those things please DM me.
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Hello everyone, is there any start up working on insurance or mortageg domain? If so please let me know would like to connect thank you :)
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revenue status doesn't matter for YC entry
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zsoitonxhma sorry I'm just seeing your post. I went through YC S14. DM me if I can help
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I thought all postbox services was shit, so i started my own privacy aware postbox service postbox.stackpointersolutions.net :)
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hey utboddbgjq just fyi you can't post your own stuff on nomadlist... the bots will ban you.
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If there is any 3d designer that can do 3d printer sketches and is looking for a fun new side project, pm me , im looking for one for a project
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Would anyone be able to recommend a process for coming up with a brand / business name? e.g. how to measure that a proposed name resonates well with what brand / business is about?
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epinxbgz I think Tim Ferris did this, but maybe I’m mistaken. But you can buy Facebook ads targeting your segment and have different ads for each brand in the ad set. Then see which ad has better engagement.
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Yes, tim ferriss did it- 3 ads, 3 names - run Google/FB ads - see the conversion metrics for the right cohorts and you have your answer
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As founders, what do you guys think of Seth Godin? I used to run a marketing team 8+ years ago, but I’ve always been naturally inclined to engineering/business/design/technical/writing, and not sales/marketing. Started reading some of his stuff and watching a few videos, and he’s the first marketing guy that has me actually interested and excited to work on marketing as part of product development.
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I’ve listened to all his books and really liked them
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actually saw him live once in a conference and that got me interested
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I was really reluctant because there are so many “gurus” peddling marketing shit online. But this guy is genuinely very, very smart and skilled.
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that’s my feeling too
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Seth Godin is amazing, I recommend his books to a ton of different people. His books give me so many ideas and new perspectives. No snake oil like Gary V etc
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What would you recommend first for Seth Godin?
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Linchpin maybe
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Not a founder, but I like Godin's work
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His books are usually only couple of hours long, so no matter which one you will pick you will quickly get through it (so you can just get a different one after)
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I wouldn’t say GaryV is “snake oil” per se
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Rather he just says the same BS
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“Hustle”, “work”, “stop thinking”, “do it”
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His persona puts me off a little bit, but I never took his advice as coming from a bad place
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I subscribe more to a DHH school of sustainable business practices
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I generally like DHH, but lately he just hates on everything. I had to unfollow because it’s just as bad as a GaryV always super uppity and hustling
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GaryV always seems pretty balanced compared to some others in the space and speaks rather plainly. I have also heard him say you can hustle 100% and still fail.
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I don't generally invest time listening to motivational speakers because I don't need high level motivation or guidance and I think some people get addicted to the idea of doing things vs doing them.
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Purple cow is a classic. This is Marketing is new and concise. But all of them are good for different stages of the startup/entrepreneur journey
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Have a friend like that, he always go to some speeches/etc, comes all "full of motivation" to do stuff, after a day or two "I need to go to some speech to get motivation", repeat
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I think he’s really smart. I’ve been following his works for ages. He knows how to present complex ideas in a simple way. And truly has a unique perspective on marketing.
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a good video/speech should motivate you for a solid 6 months at least 😉
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Yeah, I think the problem is more just attending them and stuff, not really about following up on them
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no i mean a youtube video
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I rate gv its all common sense but can be very validating at times. def not a snake oil sales man he doesn't need to do what he does to trick you into buying anything, rather it makes him a major figure head in the space which opens up a lot of opportunities for him.
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ive seen a couple of clips where he says to stop watching his videos because its hussle porn
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He says to stop watching himself?
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it was part of his rhetoric for a while
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He's in a league of his own. I always recommend him to starting founders or people that want to get into marketing.
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Overthinking is definitely my greatest business weakness.
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Seth Godin is probably the smartest, less-sleazy marketer out there. I can't watch Gary Vee, not because he is necessarily wrong on anything, but mostly because the people who obsess with him are the ones who need motivation.
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If anything I need less motivation, would probably be a healthy change
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i would say its how you consume his content.
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I never watch his youtube channel, but i follow him on IG where he posts his most insightful quotes as summaries of the youtube videos.
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It's a fairly efficient way of stating motivated.
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But yeah I also need less motivation
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he needs to do videos on how to switch off
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Isn’t he all about never switching off?
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Ya
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Well he is more that outcome is linear to input. Like the less you do the less you will make. I don't always believe this to be true, pinterest and FB were made in very short time frames. However in general he resonates/validates me because it took me forever. I appreciate his more sophisticated talks on silicon valley not really building true businesses.
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I have had a couple vc investment analysts call me and when I say I am cash flow positive they always gasp. That to me shows how much of the tech economy is just built on sand.
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hlhffcbgwbeuryczv there used to be a rule of thumb that if you were cash flow positive VCs didn't want you because it's way easier to have sky high valuations and such when it's all an amorphous space of possibilities and there's no real numbers to put a limit on things
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but i think that's changed in the last 5 years
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Really? Changed? Let’s look at WeWork 🤣
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doesn't mean it's perfect
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also softbank REALLY likes throwing money at shit
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mgujqbnn well, gradually changing
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wework is 9 years old also
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and for roughly 8 years has been a very obvious scam that people were plugging their ears and saying LALALALA about
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not a scam on its customers, mind you
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> I spent all vacation thinking about it and decided Adam Neumann is a genius. Maybe an evil genius, probably a charlatan, undoubtedly the corporate villain of our lifetimes, but brilliant all the same. He saw an excess of capital in Silicon Valley and a raw, unsatisfied ambition in SoftBank’s Masayoshi Son and his $100 billion Vision Fund, and he mined it for all it was worth. Adam Neumann built an office-rental empire with spa water and beer-on-tap and talk of unlocking superpowers and elevating global consciousness. He did all this while swigging tequila shots, surfing with Laird Hamilton, surfing in the Maldives, and smoking weed on transatlantic flights.
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Softbank also threw 164 million at mapbox and it will be interesting if it works out.
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I think one of the biggest marketing issues for small companies is choice paralysis.
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There are so many platforms/strategies to choose from. But what’s for sure is that focusing on a single channel that’s highly-relevant to your end-user is going to be more effective than try to spread yourself across multiple channels.
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ijsadtjnfmvneqoqjyh I have that problem, but I don't haven't a single massive channel, it is literally hundreds of niche use cases, so I am almost always shotgun marketing because targeting niches does not have a positive ROI for me.
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vgjgkygdahqwinbuk That’s tricky. I’m a big fan of ‘land-and-expand’ both in my former sales career, and my marketing career now.
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IE. Focusing on a specific use-case and building case studies/social proof then targeting others in that vertical.
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Dealing with companies that have a range of verticals and aren’t confident which to focus on is tricky.
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I am currently in the process of getting 8 case studies done then I am going to hit each one and try to the find one that has the largest ROI.
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Case studies are powerful tools, but take a lot of work.
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Thing is, you can obsess over picking highest ROI… But any kind of action/commitment to a vertical is going to yield a higher reward than spreading yourself too thin.
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I have currently never achieved positive ROAS, it hasn't been a big deal because I have such crazy SEO but it is really hard to scale without positive ROAS. If I can get positive ROAS I could leverage something like clear blanc and turn up the heat fast, but it is getting it figured out.
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Good crazy, or challenging crazy SEO?
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Good crazy
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Challenging for others because I have 10 years of entrenchment now.
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What’s your business?
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ryudpkfexmhwgxkze OK, I can instantly see what you mean… this is a very broad product!
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You bet it is 🤣
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He’s fantastic. A colleague of mine recently gave a talk and he was in the audience and he came up and told her that the talk transformed his thinking. Amazing.
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Has anyone got a seed investment from a good startup accelerator? I am looking for one for a mvp im building
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Raised from YC, how can I help?
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Nail varnish for pets
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Dating website for people who like winter.
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A website for start-up ideas.
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Tinder with a review system
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Tinder for spouse swappers
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That last one probably has legs
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Swingder
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include generally polyamourous people
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"What STI is this?"
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"What STI is this?" (with machine learning)
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McAfee
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lol ^
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"You probably have genital herpes. Please stop having sex ASAP."
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Startup idea pick any business that already works well, make it better and (initially) undercut their price. Spend massively in ads.
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PRO:
- market is already validated
- market is already educated about the problem its solutions
- You are going to be smaller scale than competitors, you can iterate/innovate faster than a large company (sounds counterintuitive, but it's true)
CONS:
- you need to select a market with good margins, ready for disruption
- it has to be a narrow niche market product (initially!), not worth it to compete with giants
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^
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Sometimes people get obsessed with being first instead of just being better. Though an important note that especially when it comes to software you have to make sure its not a tip of an iceberg situation. If a company has really bad software but is making a ton of money it is probably because they are sitting on top of a regulatory mess.
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get VC funding and burn cash to push all competitors out of market
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Exists, “Ada”
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Key in one symptom, answer few questions, see potential causes
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wait i feel like we skipped over the “tinder with reviews” a bit too quickly. imagine a star rating and maybe friends and stuff can write things about you/against you
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omg then a market to buy bots for fake reviews on tinder
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Did you guys see Alibabas top items bought on Singles Day
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I was surprised to see Australian Milk
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_The Australian Milk drought of 2019_ 😄
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Logistics distribution center the day after Double 11 Shopping Festival in China
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“logistics”
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My last order from AliExpress took about a month to arrive. Was relabeled in Malaysia?!
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wuzbtlynlbimjzym the timing is pretty normal, and likely relabeled to avoid tarrifs
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I’ve had much better luck shipping to Thailand. One time it arrived in 5 days
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But that was China Post untracked, not Yanwen
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I'm usually just happy that an aliexpress order arrives at all
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ftebireyhlczvjupp most of them are escrowed
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risk should be mininal
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receipt has to be verified/tracked
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My favorite response to "How can we improve?" after a cancellation.
"Make it free"
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Hahaha
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"I value you exactly ZERO"
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can you elaborate on what you mean? A new product proposal, a redesign of a companies existing product ?
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has anyone got experience with stripe atlas? are there alternatives to this type of service?
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I’ve always been underwhelmed with that service (on paper, not that I’ve used it)
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It’s not too time consuming and a lot cheaper to just create an entity via rocket lawyer or legal zoom.
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And bank accounts are generally easy, unless you have a crypto or gambling or weed business
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I would vote for any service over legalzoom. Had them royally mess stuff up almost a year ago, and I've had to pay a couple thousand dollars in lawyer fees to clean things up.
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Still working to finalize some of it
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Any tips for opening a bank acct in the US without being there?
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For a Wyoming Corp if that matters
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zhcxyzhoo BMO Harris allows Canadians to open bank accs remotely
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Ah. I was asking for an American friend actually
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But if BMO Harris works for Canadians then presumably works for Americans too
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there's apparently some market demand for gravy as shots yjecaiwuxchc 😉
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anyone care to test the market?
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yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaspls
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Is incorporating in the US considered a good default choice? I'm Irish and Ireland has low corporate tax but looks like US is only 21pc at the moment
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Delaware is a good spot if you want to do a fast growth startup and then exit
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Since most VCs and investors and all their lawyers are most familiar with Delaware
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so I guess most nomads just incorporate in their own countries?
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not that enthusiastic about engaging in Irish business bureaucracy 😅
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Florida LLC now better for tax than Delaware
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No, better to incorporate elsewhere for tax reasons
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I last heard Nevada was quite good for incorporating
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so USA is a good choice?
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Singapore is good too
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Hungary is low apparently
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Isle of Man could work
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just been googling
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whats the benefits?
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corporation tax?
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if you invest 500k in America you get a nice shiny green card
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right
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so investment could be generated funds in a business account?
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based in the US?
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no idea
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plausible though
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interesting
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not something to rely on for now anyway
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yeah just interesting
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got no interest in moving to the US
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green card. would also mean your a tax resident in the US too right?
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yeah
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yeah double taxation isn't fun
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and green card holders can't use FEIE either
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you likely wouldn't be double taxed due to various tax treaties though
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right
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interesting read this is all new to me
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Many many options. What are you looking for?
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What banking setup do you need?
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size of company
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Business activity
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