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hey guys, I would like to hear your opinion about the safety in Brazil
I'll be there in 3 weeks and my destinations are Sao Paulo and then Florianopolis
The problem is that I am well a very basic traveller and so I am feeling quite nervous
I have parsed thousands of opinions which differ from tranquilo to "they will cut you"
The only expensing thing that I will have will be the working laptop, I am also gonna replace the phone with a cheaper one so I could be online when I am out. From what I heard I should use with my backpack only the taxi which does not seem to be always realistic
Also I dress islamic so this could look quite different
May I know anything from you please?
I would like to visit Rio because I have about 2 months unplanned
Hey, I felt similarly but when I got there (Vila Velha and the Rio) things were much more relaxed and I had a great time. I spent about 3 weeks in Brazil. I mostly worked in Airbnbs but also went to a couple of cafes on occasion.

What do you mean you dress islamic? lypmbakanmbsptm
rm3mo
All opinions are true. Ultimately, it's luck that will determine your experience, but the odds are different depending on the locations you visit and your behavior. The odds of you being a victim of violent crime in Sรฃo Paulo or Florianรณpolis are very low; they are also low, but slightly higher in Rio. The basic street smarts which you've probably read about (dressing like a local, avoiding dangerous places, avoiding badly lit / shady looking areas, not flashing valuables etc) help a lot and make it less likely that you will be mugged.
rm3mo
If someone does target you, what will probably happen is they'll take your phone / wallet and it will stop at that.
thank you. hope that I will stay in a full complect
hi, thanks for the opinion!

I dress traditionally and thus it will differ from local shorts and T-shirts which are totally not my style :D
rm3mo
You can dress more formally and still not look out of place. Not every BR wears shorts and flip flops. It's more brands, style, etc, that will give away you're a foreigner.
Quite expensive in time/effort but invest to learn about your surroundings.
The language, the locals, their history, favourites and dangerous places, plates, dance, activities. Try to understand and progressive integrate in their lives as someone who genuinely want to learn.

I'm doing it on :flag-ar:, from :flag-ve:. And planning to move out to ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท for all that I mention before.
Hey guys! I agree that this is not a black and white issue.

As mentioned by some of you above, it can go really well or you can die, literally! So as a native Brazilian, I believe I can shed some light on this:

I was born and bred in Fortaleza, Brazil and lived there for 28 years of my life.

I haven't lived much in Brazil for the past 10 years, but have family and friends there and have a pretty good understanding of the violence and danger some places can expose a foreigner to.

So, it's safe to say that in Brazil foreigners must be a little extra cautious with regards to whom you're hanging out with and where you're going to.

Mostly in the capitals (Sao Paulo, Rio, Porto Alegre, Recife, Fortaleza, Manaus) I'd be extra cautious, but this wouldn't prevent you from enjoyinig the beauty of the country.

Hang out with the right people, use common sense and have fun!
And if you want to ask me any specific questions, feel free to direct message me. Cheers!
๐Ÿ‘‹ hey, I want to go to Brazil next year. does anyone know a good course to learn portuguese; besides the common learning apps like babbel. THX โœŒ๏ธ
This :point_up:. But it pays to ask a local about neighborhoods etc
I really like italki personally. Great site for finding free language exchanges (usually via Skype) or you can pay a professional teacher/tutor for lessons remotely.

I do this weeks before I travel anywhere so that upon landing I can hit the ground running with at least a solid A1/A2 level.
Iโ€™d check for in-person classes or private tutors in your area who are willing to meet in person, covid restrictions permitting, I think face-to-face learning is just a lot faster
Iโ€™d recommend Pimsleur + iTalki, thatโ€™s what I use to learn Russian
Try Fluent Forever book/app
yes you need CPF. What is your reason for wanting to pay tax there?
+1 to Pimsleur, Iโ€™m a huge fan of the methodology
๐Ÿ›ฌ tellqpndomnridp just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Sรฃo Paulo, #brazil
I wanna share my personal experience about the buying the SIM:
1. Just went to official Claro in the shopping mall, literally shown the empty sim slot and they guessed what I want. Also there is a page on the Claro's site which describes the options for the foreigners, probably may also show it in case of the problem. The pass is required. Sim costs 10R$ (2 USD), monthly plan 12 Gb 40$ (8 USD).
2. Before the trip I found the travel plan by Hong Kong provider 3HK. 13 Gb for a year for lots of countries, costs 268 HK$ (35USD). If the trafic is used the speed is limited, was enough to make not always stable whatsapp calls. Used perfectly in Russia, Germany, Brazil. Great deal if your phone supports eSIM.
+1 for Fluent Forever and iTalkie combo before you go. Then in-person when you arrive
Any tips for co-workings or nice places to work from at Florianรณpolis? (specially around Lagoa)
nloznqyih I recommend We Cowork at Lagoa. Great community. Fast internet.

Avoid Selina for coworking space. Internet sucks there. Itโ€™s only good for parties.

I'm currently working at ImpactHub Primavera, I recommend it. Not extremely close, but everything you need you can find here
+1 for avoiding Selina
camc2mo
Hello all! My name is Cameron. I am 28 years old and from New York originally but currently have an apartment in Florida. I am in Costa Rica now working remotely but am looking into Rio as my next destination. I see that RioTour has begun a program to attract digital nomads to the city, but I cant seem to find out much more about it other than a list of participating hotels/hostels.

Can anyone shed some light on this program who is currently there or has any info on it? It would be much appreciated!

Aside from that I have met many Brazilian people in NYC and they have all been super cool and told me to go there if I had the chance. I consider myself a person with at least an average level of common sense, so I know that not every area of Rio (or any major foreign city) is safe/welcoming/fun for gringos :sweat_smile:. That being said, I don't want to lock myself into an enclave of only foreigners (CR can be like that, especially Tama). What might be the best areas for a mix of local culture and remote work friendly? Again I appreciate any info available on this, and it's a pleasure to meet you all! Cheers!
As a tourist is hard to scape from Copacabana, Ipanema & Leblon.

I also wouldnโ€™t recommend staying in any other neighbourhoods during your first visit.

I lived in Copa during three months in the beginning of the year and had an amazing time.

Although all those three neighbourhoods are pretty touristic, youโ€™re most likely be in contact with Brazilians 90% of the time.

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๐Ÿ›ฌ howqdkfsrrwe just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท Curitiba, #brazil
Hey I'm Brazilian and will share my pov.
1 - Even if you are in the most touristic areas as said by mpyoofdcgpaomu you are going to meet brazilians 90% of the time
2 - If you don't want to get stuck just in Rio (city) you can go to some other cities in the state with AMAZING beaches. I do recommend a lot Paraty and Arraial do Cabo.
3 - Brazilians are friendly, but hard to find ppl with good english so staying in touristic areas will help a lot.

Any question you have u can send in the thread I'll be glad to answer
I agree with what oyauotojhkhp said, Brazil has the benefit of being very brasilian wherever you are :heart:. I ended up learning Portuguese myself as English is quite useless even in the most touristic areas (it's a beautiful language if you ever have the chance / time to learn it). Rio is always a good option, but then most places in Brazil are a very good option tbh :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:. What is that Rio Tour? I never heard about it! I can't wait to go back, I miss Brasil a lot
camc2mo
Awesome, thank you for your insight! shhdnkurznfslw
camc2mo
Thanks for the insight! recpcpzw schszcqqnyxt I definitely want to learn as much Portuguese as I can before I go and while I'm there (at least the basics). I am more or less conversational in Spanish so I'm hoping that will help as a starting point as it seems to share a lot of vocabulary.
youโ€™re welcome!
๐Ÿ›ฌ mkneorpzdpmrblx just arrived in ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™€๏ธ Florianopolis, #brazil
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```Hi everyone! Anyone around Ubatuba or the northern coastline of SP?```
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Hey my Brazilian!! I tried to resist as much as I could, I traveled places trying to feel the same love that I felt for Brazil, but really, nothing matches that love :smiling_face_with_3_hearts:. I'm planning my next trip to Brazil in September (even if I get stuck there :joy::rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:). Question is people who are in Rio right now, how is the situation in terms of restrictions? Thank you
hey vkekeirt I just arrived in Rio. Most people are wearing masks outdoors and in shops, however, I feel it is very laidback and from what I see there are not a lot of restrictions for gathering.
Thank you U01F2UH75CL!! That makes me wanna go back even more
Traveling to Rio for a couple of weeks in November after Web Summit ๐Ÿ™‚
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My home city! How are you liking it there?
๐Ÿ›ฌ xykrgfwunkrnqbgr just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Sรฃo Paulo, #brazil
Hi Guys, What is the requirement for travel to Brazil from Portugal and coming back? Someone of you did it already?
To come to brazil you just need a negative PCR
however going back to portugal if you hold a portuguese passaport should be fine, if not, maybe only can go via france or spain if youโ€™re fully vaccinated.. apparently
not sure
camc20d
Hello all! Thank you in advance for your time and participation in this thread, it is greatly appreciated!

So I am from the U.S. currently working nomadically and living in South America; currently in Brazil. I have been here for about a month and have picked up enough of the language to get by with day to day things, but would like to become conversational as I will be staying here for a while.

I am already more or less conversational in Spanish, but would not say I am fluent at all. I have been reading online that it can be tricky to keep the languages separate in your mind when you are in the process of learning both. In a perfect world I would take a few years to become fluent in Spanish and then make the transition to Portuguese, but seeing as how I am living in Brazil now and will be for the foreseeable future I don't see any real opportunity to have a clear division between my basic Spanish and complete beginner Portuguese.

Would you say it is better to completely leave Spanish language learning alone during this time in order to focus on Portuguese exclusively, or to practice both? And if so, what would be the best ratio? (ex. 70% PT 30% ES).

If anyone has any experience or knowledge in this area it would be greatly appreciated if you could share!

Cheers!
Youโ€™re actually in a very similar situation that Iโ€™m in and I think it would be best if you just went full-bore with Portuguese and ignored Spanish for now since you have the better environment/resources to learn PT and will most likely just confuse yourself trying to learn both.
Then when you reach high B2/low C1 with PT you could go back to learning Spanish.
camc20d
qokmepsqujl That is very helpful thanks man!
Agreed with lomngxcsajv go for PT. I used to learn both (a long time ago) and it was too complicated, finally dropped Portuguese to fully learn Spanish and then (some years later) went back on learning Brazilian Portuguese. Now I'm fluent with both. Knowing one will help you a lot to learn the other whenever you are ready :muscle::skin-tone-5:. Also, your brain will get very good at seperating both. You'll automatically know if the word you are saying is Spanish or Portuguese.
camc20d
hyzmjcoo Awesome thanks for the advicepray
Also there are certain sounds and grammar structures that are present in Portuguese that are absent from Spanish. IE Portuguese has more vowel sounds.
So learning Portuguese first will make it so that you don't get into Spanish pronunciation patterns. Also, you'll have access to conversation opportunities in Brazil, so you might as well make use of them.
If you want to get a head start, try translating things into all three languages. You make a table with columns for English/Spanish/Portuguese and then fill in phrases for each row. That will force your brain to stop overwriting your Spanish with Portuguese. Also, youโ€™ll notice more patterns between the languages. For example, the /ue/ dipthong in Spanish often becomes /o/ in Portuguese (puerta => porta, puente => ponte). This will help you guess words.
๐Ÿ›ฌ nofqueevnbvbakm just arrived in Sรฃo Bento do Sapucaรญ, #brazil
As someone above said, I think focusing on one at a time until you get to a fairly advanced level (in this case Portuguese as youโ€™re in Brazil), is the best way to do it. I highly recommend this textbook A Spoken Grammar of Brazilian Portuguese, by Earl W. Thomas. Used in conjunction with pronunciation advice and adjustment from a native speaker of course
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camc17d
๐Ÿ›ฌ odqjsx just arrived in ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™€๏ธ Florianopolis, #brazil
๐Ÿ›ฌ dnjdlujxpnzg just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Sรฃo Paulo, #brazil
Hey everyone! Has anyone recently entered Brazil through GRU? Can you tell me what you experienced in terms of Customs??
I learned both Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese, they have a ton of similarities. Knowing Spanish speeds up your Portuguese learning immensely (and I suppose vice versa). My advice is focus on the language you can practice today, looks like youโ€™re in Brazil, so stick with PT for the time being.
Most people enter Brazil via GRU, itโ€™s the biggest airport. Iโ€™ve been through GRU more times than I can count and never had to stop at customs, most of the times there wasnโ€™t anyone even there. But thatโ€™s just my experience.
Thanks cfeleps thatโ€™s good to know :)
๐Ÿ›ฌ aorwdfnxchsm just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท Curitiba, #brazil
anyone have opinion on best city in North east Brasil to nomad from? Salvador is only one Iโ€™ve been to thus far, and Fortaleza, of which I preferred the former
I truly recommend either Recife in Pernambuco, if you want a bigger city, they have a blooming tech hotspot there called Porto digital

Or Natal in Rio Grande do Norte if you want a more chilled place with lots of beautiful beaches
cheers. Recife is tempting
๐Ÿ›ฌ xmsuhvurk just arrived in Armaรงรฃo dos Bรบzios, #brazil
Thinking on going to Rio next. What's the situation with restrictions there?
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