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Welp maybe Iโ€™m just doing Rio and Floripa only and skipping Sao Paolo entirely.
Sorry, you got robbed.
When we discuss here all the time, which city is more secure, we should also once check the statistics, like eg pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_unidades_federativas_do_Brasil_por_taxa_de_homic%C3%ADdios|https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_unidades_federativas_do_Brasil_por_taxa_de_homic%C3%ADdios which is about states, not cities, but there there is same about major cities and it's just not true, that Rio is safer as Sรฃo Paulo. If you go in Rio in the wrong direction at the wrong time etc same can happen.
Well yeah I at least know where in Rio to stay and where not to go.
That's an argument
rkblubwijmygn around what time did this happen? Just curious.
Sorry twagdbbulaezr that I mix your terrible situation you had to go through and probably will stay with you for some time, with stats. I just mention as some time people say that Rio is safe. It's not even safer. But as gtppauvwsawe mentioned, when you know the safe places it's for sure good, anywhere on this earth
Sao Paolo looks pretty wild. 96 neighborhoods? The Hood Maps area seems to imply a small circle that tourists can stay in.
Hoodmaps is a nice idea...
Imho
10:00pm
voyzan 8d
๐Ÿ›ฌ iizmjxdr just arrived in Pelotas, #brazil
๐Ÿ›ฌ inqeycpmtndjxrkc just arrived in ๐Ÿ‘™ Rio de Janeiro, #brazil
๐Ÿ›ฌ knfumzagnfueqxd just arrived in ๐Ÿ‘™ Rio de Janeiro, #brazil
ickoeijmyqej yeah I've heard of Brazilians staying away from Rio because of safety, so at the very least it is not perceived as safer

also I remember I downloaded an app when I was there that told you if there was a shootout somewhere (to be fair, they almost always happened in outlying favelas)

and the bad and good neighborhoods are pretty interspersed there, not that it is very easy to accidentally go into a favela, but they are physically next to many of the richer areas (which is where they would logically look for targets)
I would have loved to hike up to the Cristo Redentor statue instead of taking the train, but again, I read that it is quite risky given the limited presence of people ๐Ÿ˜• but I did go on a hike to Dois Irmaos from the top of Vidigal - with a group, of course. Vidigal is supposed to be the "best" / safest favela?
fully agree on the point "bad and good neighborhoods are pretty interspersed there". If you know the "lines" between, ok. If not... But at the end I'm not paid by Sao Paulo Tourist Office ๐Ÿ™‚
I always thought dressing like a local in football shirt, shorts, flip flops helped in Brazil. Ofc locals also get robbed, but can't hurt (except you can't run away so fast in flip flops)
๐Ÿ›ฌ pjgbnunhvyqgn just arrived in ๐Ÿ‘™ Rio de Janeiro, #brazil
dlemos 7d
๐Ÿ›ฌ tjqnxjsx just arrived in ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™€๏ธ Florianopolis, #brazil
nilskp 7d
๐Ÿ›ฌ pgkcbmtv just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Sรฃo Paulo, #brazil
voyzan 6d
๐Ÿ›ฌ oxgbeosq just arrived in ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™€๏ธ Florianopolis, #brazil
nilskp 6d
Can you elaborate on "burned me with something"?
rm 6d
Rio is a lot more dangerous than Sรฃo Paulo. The reason why some people think Rio is safe is because they all stay in Zona Sul. Yeah if everyone stayed in Moema in Sรฃo Paulo it'd be perceived as safe. Repรบblica is akin to downtown in Rio. I lived there for many years and never had issues, but I never let my guard down either. I'm not sure why so many nomads are hanging out in that region in SP (the other who got robbed was in Sรฉ), people should avoid it unless they're Brazilian or very seasoned travelers.
Do tourists legitimately have a reason to leave Zona Sul? Itโ€™s like saying Chicago is dangerous except if you stay out of south central or NYC is dangerous except if you stay out of the Bronx.
rm 6d
ouvvumrcomln No, it's more like saying NYC is safe if you stay in SoHo. Everywhere else is dangerous.
Same difference. I should have used the opposite modifier.
rm 6d
There are plenty of reasons to leave Zona Sul. Lots of things to see and do all around Rio.
rm 6d
It's different because NYC isn't dangerous, save for a few neighborhoods. While Rio can be very dangerous in a lot of neighborhoods. In NYC you think in terms of "which neighborhoods are dangerous", in Rio in terms of "which neighborhoods are safe". The logic is inverted.
ack
nsol87 5d
Also going to pipa in Feb and stoked on it! No stories of mugging at gunpoint ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
dvpita 5d
Yeah nothing happens in Pipa โค๏ธ
abarrow 5d
omgjxaujrwagr sorry this happened to you must have been pretty traumatizing. Thanks for sharing for others to see.
abarrow 5d
Pinheiros is safe right guys? ๐Ÿ‘€
abarrow 5d
or at least safer.
rm 5d
Much safer, although Pinheiros is a large neighborhood so it depends on which part you're staying specifically
abarrow 5d
I'll stay locked up in my apartment so no one can catch me
lol that doesn't sound fun at all
rm 5d
lol, it will probably be fine
rm 5d
Pinheiros gets sketchy closer to the Marginal, in some specific places. Most of it is very safe
Staying in Pinheiros for some time, near Faria Lima, and feel quiet save, following the basics. And it's really cool area
There's a Selina I stayed at for 1 week right on the street where this robbery happened ``

I remember even catching an Uber at night... Waiting on the street for 5 minutes had shady looking, aggressive beggars approaching, so I would always have to wait inside until the Uber was literally curbside to dart into it.

<@U01A3KU2H08> what time of night was this?

Sadly, in (most of) LATAM in my opinion it's best to never walk anywhere at night. Always take an Uber. Or in the case of this water errand, get it delivered via a service like Rappi. Makes you feel lazy / like you're wasting money, but the chances of a robbery drop substantially this way.

Even in Itaim Bibi (one of SP's nicest neighborhoods) at the apartment where I stayed for a few months, for night time deliveries (Uber Eats, etc), the guard never would open the gate for the delivery person, but instead have them hand the items through a hole in the gate.

Also note that in Sao Paulo you can generally drink the tap water (I was doing so at the Selina right on that block).
almost exactly 10:00pm, and I walked by that Selina a few times!
Totally agree with anything U02SQRBE1. Just the tap water I would say it depends a bit on location and the age and maintenance of the building you stay.
rm 4d
www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/governo-lula-estuda-reavaliar-isencao-de-visto-a-turistas-dos-eua-australia-canada-e-japao/br />
This year might be the last with visa-free travel to Brazil for US, Canada, Australia, Japan citizens
dvpita 4d
Wonโ€™t be expensive right? (Didnโ€™t read)
I hope all these countries become more flexible with brazilian passport and then nothing need to be revoked from them
fair
maaria 3d
๐Ÿ›ฌ oubmpskm just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Sรฃo Paulo, #brazil
I wouldn't think it would be expensive. The last time I planned on coming to Brazil there was a tourist visa and the fee was around $32 IIRC
rm 3d
mrthvhrg it hasn't been decided yet but seems likely they will go back to a reciprocity policy. I posted it because if anyone has been thinking of visiting, this is probably a good time before there's more bureaucracy
In rio or SP, is it safe to go on a run with airpods and an iphone in hand?
nilskp 2d
Yes, if you run fast enough
maaria 2d
๐Ÿ›ฌ ipxqbjqm just arrived in ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™€๏ธ Florianopolis, #brazil
dvpita 2d
I see you havenโ€™t been reading this space enough ๐Ÿ˜‚
not a good idea for sure in general. An exception in SP could be the "parque ibirapuera", which is considered as safe.
but best to ask a local
repeating. in general a bad idea
tom 2d
I did that almost every day in Rio running between Copacabana and Ipanema. No issues at all but perhaps I was just lucky ๐Ÿ™‚
It depends of where are you running.

Iโ€™m a runner so I can tell you some good spots IN SP bpprwyaggjpa

For long runs I always go to Parque Ibiraquera, parque Bruno covas, Universidade USP. Totally safe, hundreds of runners specially on the weekends. But week days are also populated.
You can add me on Strava or Garmin connect. So you can see more spots I run if you want to
dvpita 2d
why do u people run? are u going somewhere? u running from something?
nilskp 2d
On a more serious note, I run in SP myself and feel perfectly safe. I may be naive, but I feel like a runner may not be the easiest target, and these are crimes of opportunity. But if anyone has evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that runners are being targeted, I might change my mind
Never heard of anything happening with ppl during the runsโ€ฆ But I`ve heard of some isolated facts about cyclists, there are some guys cycling with 20k USD bikes, so it drags some attentionโ€ฆ
What I also recommend is using the heat map of Garmin or Strava, which shows where most of the users run. Always a great way to find out good spots
wayeosyb easiest way to keep active, you only need a pair of shoes
Hey beautiful people, for the ones in Sao Paulo I'm playing at Saturday at Patio Layback in Villa Madalena from 19h00 to 22h00 if some wanna join. It's part of the Selina. Should be many internationals ๐ŸŽ‰
abarrow 2d
Soo trying to book a flight back to mexico from brazil. Do you guys think I will have enough time if I have a flight from Floripa - SP that lands at 6:30AM, if the flight from SP to mex leaves at 7:30AM? I won't be checking in bags.
maaria 2d
Anyone happen to be around Campeche in Floripa? โœจ Just arrived and love my coworking space ๐Ÿ”ฅ
Hey oqpbsdom welcome! I live in Campeche as well, which coworking are you going?
Usually they ask for 2 hours for GRU airport.
Besides check-in your bags again you will need to pass through immigration.
I think you have a significant chance of loosing your flight connection.
But maybe ask to the flight company what they recommend
Not enough considering you have to be at the gate at most 20-30 minutes before the flight. I did Rio - SP (terminal 1), SP - Lima (terminal 3) and the line to check my bags took around 35-40 mins. Plus a small line in immigration and a lot of walking. Took me about an hour.
Also domestic and international terminals are different and planes never land at precisely the time theyโ€™re scheduled, so it would be a huge risk
hey all, i'm the guy who posted about getting mugged last week. i wrote a review of my airbnb warning future tenants about what happened to me and how dangerous the neighborhood is, and Airbnb took it down!
They sent me a very long message that didn't acknowledge what I went through or really explain what the problem was with my review.
So let this be a warning to us all Airbnb seems to just take down reviews warning tenants about bad neighborhoods?
sushi 2d
As a thumb rule, airbnb will take the side of host in any dispute
maaria 2d
Naboa! ndzrvscddw
garlibe 1d
๐Ÿ›ฌ nuwcazgjq just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท Curitiba, #brazil
๐Ÿ›ฌ ovodzfeathek just arrived in ๐Ÿ‘™ Rio de Janeiro, #brazil
larien 1d
๐Ÿ›ฌ bzakzkxz just arrived in ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™€๏ธ Florianopolis, #brazil
๐Ÿ›ฌ gaelvoeshzvnc just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท Sorocaba, #brazil
๐Ÿ›ฌ yktqvgkxjhf just arrived in ๐Ÿ‘™ Rio de Janeiro, #brazil
dvpita 1d
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Sorry to hear what happened! And random โ“ I know that all the downtown walking tours for AP start from that Plaza. Are they safe to do or would you recommend not to?
rm 22h
uhklqjefliyv Because you will be in a group, it's less likely you'll be mugged in a similar way. However, stuff can still happen, for example someone on a bike might grab your phone while you're taking a pic and run off. So always be aware of your surroundings and be careful with your phone / wallet
rm 22h
Downtown in Brazilian capitals is pretty much always dangerous. That rule applies to all of them
rm 22h
That sucks. It's disturbing how little Airbnb seems to care about guests
arthurfd 21h
Nice, I haven't been there yet.
Anyone know what the cost to charter a private ferry from Rio to Niteroi would cost? And any recommendations? #rio_de_janeiro
What's your intention? Only transport way to cross the bay or spend all day enjoying?
For a daily commute for part of my team.
What neighborhood?
anyone staying in rio during the carneval?
I'm currently in rio until Feb. 24th ๐Ÿ™‚
There is already an event from nomad list on Feb. 17th!
patlopes 13h
GRU is also pretty chaotic so personally I donโ€™t think an hour will be enough time.
๐Ÿ›ฌ xszsyqhdcpcybnw just arrived in ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™€๏ธ Florianopolis, #brazil
SP historical center (Republica, Largo do Arouche)
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