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Yeah, I tried with three different friends to get 1 rmb in my WeChat wallet, but all without success. Maybe it's a bit stricter because I created my WeChat account while I was still in the Netherlands.
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Ah well, I had high hopes for Swapsy, but when setting up a swap - you get a notice that says funds cannot be sent to WeChat users who do not have a China ID or Chinese debit card, even if you have the wallet ๐Ÿ˜ž
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On a different note, we're using WhaleBlue SSR for our iPhone VPN and it's awesome.
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Good tip, thanks! Will try it out next month ๐Ÿ˜„
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4 days in and I feel like a total digital outcast here. Being locked out from using a digital payment system, ride sharing and a good map I can read is painful. So what if I have a reliable VPN. I can't use the app tools that matter here without a local bank account ๐Ÿคฌ
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azatoawjapmbesg I feel your pain, i have been in CHina for 4 years and I just left. If I can suggest something, you could try to go to a coworking space, at least you will meet people struggling as you are and they can give you tip. I know you are in Beijing, but if you were in Shanghai, I would send you to Agora Space, they have the best internet connection.
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Felt the same when I was in Shanghai even though I know the language. :sweat_smile:Had to get our friend from China to pay for us then pay them in cash. man-shruggingskin-tone-2
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Felt the same when I was in Shanghai even though I know the language. :sweat_smile:Had to get our friend from China to pay for us through their app and we pay them in cash. man-shruggingskin-tone-2
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uasfnibhvsjpsmm thanks for Shanghai tip, we are headed that way

@U02RZMLCJ we're staying a a sweet guest house in Beijing and the staff handle all our payments for us. The rest is cash, which is crazy when you consider the counterfeit issues here.
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Dan's reading this right now and says we should be grateful to be outsiders:
www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/08/16/data-leviathan-chinas-burgeoning-surveillance-state/
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anybody in the city of Jinhua?
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anybody in the city of Jinhua?
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Hey guys, how's remote work from Beijing and around? Does ExpressVPN work well? Which VPN do you use on Android?
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Hey guys, how's remote work from Beijing and around? Does ExpressVPN work well?
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ExpressVPN has set up 5 nodes specifically for China. They are mostly reliable. We are also using WhaleBlue SSR which is very reliable but more complicated to set up.

Beijing internet was great. Plenty of cafes to work from.
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Great, thanks aflmmgpboiasxov ukmhjuqljatkudn ๐Ÿ‘ I'll check out WhaleBlue and shadowsocks.
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What about payments in China nowadays? I've heard VISA and Mastercard are note accepted, and no one uses cash anymore? ๐Ÿ˜ณ
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We've been using cash everywhere. It's the only option. On the odd occasion someone didn't take cash, or couldn't make change, they would go to a neighboring business to manage a cash transaction. We had read the same thing, but people have been very accommodating with cash.
Restaurants and hotels that cater to foreign tourists will be able to handle your credit card.
This has been true in Beijing, Datong, Pingyao and Xi'an.
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WhaleBlue is a Shadow Socks service.
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Man, no more cash, what next.. no more squatting toilets?
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Thanks, noted! ๐Ÿ‘Œ
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haha, now that we got used to themโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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alright, good to know that I still can use cashโ€ฆ
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uqrawhfvhhtuydy Whaleblue is a shadow socks service :) clvxaxgcendarfy cash is rare. Glad people still accept. WeChat Pay still the best option if you can secure it.
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ujfptkuzhzjln yes, I should clarify - all our transactions have been cash, but all the locals and people who have access to digital payment services are cashless

I tried everything I could think of to access WeChat Pay and was unsuccessful. I am under the impression you cannot add funds to a digital wallet without a local bank card or you had an existing wallet as of 6 months ago.
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That must be really tough, can't understand why they're making it harder rather than easier. Was already pretty difficult to get setup for cashless. ๐Ÿ˜•
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Money laundering risk?
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gouhlaqkzqsjadwb Yeah, makes sense!
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everything around finance in China is tightly regulated by the government, so you don't need a real reason to explain. It could be because a local politician wanted to show that he is tough on foreigners. And the rules changes every year. It used to be that you transfer 1 RMB to somebody to unlock the WeChat wallet. After, you needed a bank account or credit card (I remember that I added my Canadian visa card and it worked). After that you need a local bank account. I remember some colleagues could not even open one because they had a local bank account without a native Chinese ID. For future travelers, my tip is that you should try it before you go and while you're there to see if it works.
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Coming to Shanghai for all of a glorious 6 days (gotta love that transit visa)

Open to all and any advice about preparation beforehand, must do/see things etc. First time in China and I'm ready to have my mind blown. Bring. It. On.

Thanks in advance โค๏ธ
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gyfkdvcrqq well first thing is i'd recommend taking the maglev train from the airport.. because it's maglev! ๐Ÿ˜„
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it's the express one
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i recommend getting a hotel somewhat near the river because there's some great views there
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sklouxapc thanks! thats all great advice
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any particular recommendation on which airport is better to fly OUT of? i fly in via PVG
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usually, you don't have the choice, you go with the tickets available. Both Hongqiao and Pudong are international airports. I prefered Hongqiao because it's smaller and a little bit closer to the town center
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cool, thank yopiu
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abqsuejbdrwhclrtokxdrbkmy just arrived in Old Town of Lijiang, #china
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Hello, Is shadowsocks working well for nomad worker in China?
I worried to go China because I start use many Google services for my client work..
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Google services have been working well for us. We use WhaleBlue SSR. Though It seems to struggle with Instagram, oddly. I have plenty of projects in Google and have not had issues.

We keep ExpressVPN on hand as well in case WhaleBlue gets sluggish. Nord has been useless.
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qqjnfzhtdflqvct for a while, I don't plan much traveling until November
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ghwhgdxfiiztaak how tasted the shake shake? heard it had an other taste
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It was familiar but not exactly the same.
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chbhfephtwvscutle just arrived in ๐ŸฅŸ #hong-kong #china
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Flight cancelled on Wednesday
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tvvfyeywsirtywryeird just arrived in ๐ŸŒ‡ Shanghai, #china
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rrqfcldfpxwrdiw just arrived in ๐Ÿ‘ฒ Beijing, #china
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๐Ÿ‘‹ hey all, was hoping someone in here might know the answer to this as I've gotten conflicting answers online.
_situation_ I'm looking to visit Chengdu and Shanghai in November with the following itinerary
`Nov19 Bali to Kuala Lumpur to Chengdu - AirAsia`
`Nov22 Chengdu to KL - not booked yet`
`Nov24 KL to Shanghai - China Eastern`
`Nov27 Shanghai to South Florida - not booked yet`
_questions_ it's a 2-parter
1. can the CTU-KUL leg have a short layover in a different Chinese city?
2. do the flights into and then out-of each Chinese city need to be on the same booking/itinerary or can they be completely separate flights/airlines so long as they obey the 72/144h rules?
Thanks in advance! ๐Ÿ™
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uunlomncgvezufujb just arrived in ๐ŸŒƒ Shenzhen, #china
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KL -> Chengdu -> KL, I don't think this is valid for transit stay.
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transit suppose to be from A to B thru C, but your are doing A to A thru C.
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I remember reading this too, transit visa is ABC, not ABA
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lqdbacbqpddavas just arrived in ๐Ÿ‘ฒ Beijing, #china
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Any programmers in China? Do you guys have also problems with git?
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qyud I am but no issues with git.
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no output from `git pull` or `git push` or really slowโ€ฆ but sometimes it works
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buomj Have you tried it over a different network (i.e. 4G or different VPN/Router). Wondering if you have something like frequent packet loss over your network that would cause a could be a connection interrupt.
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could beโ€ฆ I try ExpressVPN and Shadowsocks/Outline and both WiFi and 4Gโ€ฆ It used to work well with Outline but today I have problems with that too
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wchich VPN are you using?
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I never had long term luck with most VPN providers and Outline and would get a lot of very regular packet loss. I switched to SSX-NG and local (CN) cloud provided SS servers about 8 months ago.
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I'll DM you more details.
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alright, thanks!
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Anyone have tips for visiting China from the US for the first time? Headed over to Xiamen next week.
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Hey guys, Is anyone in chongqing? I will be there on 14th
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<@U3WG95W4V just arrived in ๐ŸŒ‡ Shanghai, #china
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WeChat to offer the same in 3... 2.... 1........
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Excellent
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Ohh nice! ๐Ÿ˜„
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Not a moment too soon (for me)
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<@U03007ND4 just arrived in ๐ŸŒ‡ Shanghai, #china
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If I had 2-3 weeks in China, what would be the absolute must see destinations to better understand the country?
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Usually I enjoy nature a lot, but would like a bit of balance maybe between different stops
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And this would be 100% vacation, no wifi necessary
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The Great Wall and Tibet?
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Xiโ€™an - you get the incredible history of the terra-cotta warriors (be sure to visit some of the other mausoleum sites as they are usually empty and fascinating) - plus you see a city managing modernization. The metro is very new, the city has eliminated the use of gas motorbikes to improve the air quality, and the modern part of the city is growing fast. And inside the old city walls, you have an active Muslim quarter.
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I wonโ€™t say I understand the country better - but I have an enriched understanding of the complexities
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<@UHCSTJNTA just arrived in ๐Ÿผ Chengdu, #china
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