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I pay like 5 bucks to a website that does proof of onward travel tickets. self cancelling. just nice little insurance policy for customs in case
cwcbnqjwjiicy interesting! Which is the website you like?
so i guess its $12 but i use onwardticket (dot) com
I got rejected from a flight to Colombia from Mexico for not having onward. It's really specific to the airline.
also if you're coming from far enough, check the prices of return flights as well. This last time flying in from Europe a return flight ended up being 10% cheaper than buying one way - and then I have my flight out for checkin, arrival and also the visa extension as it's 3 months out
Yeah, same thing with the airline of my country (Air Tahiti nui), they claim to only make "roundtrip tickets" so almost all their onward tickets will be more expensive than roundtrip, I didn't know it was "a thing", interesting
I was also rejected for not having a return flight Wingo and Avianca will ask if coming from Mexico. I used onward travel and for $12 made up a flight worked like a charm. Also make sure you do Check-Mig.
Or just DM me and drinks or coffee sometime!
That was my situation Avianca Mexico to Colombia.
Fuck united, they wouldn't accept my credit card or paypal because I'm not from the US ๐Ÿ˜ž
now I'm stuck with Bestonwardticket ๐Ÿ˜ž
bestonwardticket just saved my life xD
Hi all, I am planning to come to Medellin and to stay for a year or more. From what I have researched, enrolling in a degree program is the best option for me. Does anyone know if there are any undergraduate programs taught in English?
Hi Everyone, is anyone interested in playing basketball in Medellin next week?
I will be there in a couple of weeks if youโ€™re still around, that sounds fun!
I have never seen any undergraduate programs when I took classes at La U de Antioquia or La Nacho.
But perhaps something is offered in English at UPB or Eafit.
I see. Thanks! I'll check it out.
Amateur or pro ?
(I'm from Colombia) English is not mandatory for any undergraduate programs so classes are always taught in Spanish, but for some programs (like CS) is common to find curriculum's supporting books in English. Nowadays it's also common for youngster to learn English before joining college, so I would say that depending on the program you want and the institution you pick (the ones with higher standards, like Eafit) you can manage your studies with a little bit of Spanish
Just for next week dzjvbaxnde ๐Ÿ˜ž
amateur jocblxmtzvbifxq ๐Ÿ˜…
Got it. Thanks for the info. I do have some intermediate level Spanish, so hopefully that's enough for the study.
Hi everyone, looks like I found the correct channel for Colombia waveskin-tone-4
I used bestonwardticket โ€” they asked me in Miami when I was checking a bag with Avianca but not upon arrival in Colombia.
Iโ€™ll give it a try! Never played but Iโ€™m tall and fast so I canโ€™t be that bad
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Thereโ€™s a direct flight from JFK but not direct flight from Toronto to JFK seem like they start on December.
Also, drdbgkrfrjxdo try Google Flights to easily see many options.

also letโ€™s you see days when thereโ€™s flights (sometimes flights arenโ€™t daily), so you want to time things right.
Thereโ€™s usually direct flights from Miami but youโ€™ll probably have to buy the flights separate on different carriers
๐Ÿ›ฌ qsibfqvfpd just arrived in โ›ฐ Medellรญn, #colombia
Toronto > FLL > Cartagena (couple days) > Medellin
If you haven't been to Cartagena before can do some site seeing before heading out to Medellin.
Cartagena or Santa Marta?sunny Which city would you recommend for staying & working for 1 month?
Santa Marta is closer to Parque Tayrona and all the surf spots over there. But I felt it was more of a stopover city before folks would head to Ciudad Permida/Parque Tayrona
I think Cartagena offers a bit more
but depends a bit what youโ€™re looking for ๐Ÿ˜…
Sta Marta is cheaper and has access to more and better beaches

Cartagena is more expensive, the beaches are meh but thereโ€™s a lot more to do for partying, museums, etc.

Depends on what youโ€™re looking for when youโ€™re not working
I am planning to move to Cartagena in november but the reasons I am moving there might be different than if you want to digital nomad. I feel that as a digital nomad location Cartagena is not the greatest, you can get through pretty much everything in 2-3 days. I think you would get pretty bored in cartagena for an entire month.
It's very touristy and has an international airport and idrjghiq pointed out the beach are kind of meh. I haven't been to Santa Marta, you might want to consider splitting the visits maybe.
Medellin I think is a far superior DN experience, as an example. You can do all these cool multi-day trips like guatape and salento or you can take the gondola up the mountain and hike, however, it has no beaches.
Until I setup a co-working space in Cartagena, then maybe it will be better ๐Ÿคฃ
Cartagena is a more vibrant city indeed, but staying in Santa Marta is cheaper and closer to better beaches (Palomino) and the Tayrona park which is a must . Probably you want to stay in Santa Marta and make short trips to Cartagena just for fun. It all depends the kind of vibe you are looking for.
My wife and I are looking to buy a place near Santa Marta for my suegra. I like having relatively close proximity to the beach and mountains. I also really like Valledupar which is only like a 4 hour drive from Santa Marta.

Again, depends what you're looking for. Cartagena has far better restaurants imo.
Does anyone have any on the ground reports of how Cartagena is doing right now?
Anyone been there in the last couple months?
Howโ€™s TripAdvisor for finding restaurants and stuff to do in the city? I have friends here in Cali but theyโ€™re work during the week
Iโ€™ve been consistently disappointed with online discovery of good restaurants/experiences in Colombia (and really, most places outside of the US/part of Europe). Nowadays, I do some web searches, but mostly I rely on local friends that can tell me about the scene.

Let us know if you find a good source of info!
Just look for peruvian restaurants ๐Ÿ‘€
TripAdvisor is not very good. Google maps is a little bit better. but the best is to reach out for locals. For restaurants I recommend you start with Creps & Waffles and Parmesano, they are both chains but have quality food, and you can easily find them on shopping malls
Thanks friends! I was hoping someone would know of a secret app to make the search easier haha
Unfortunately itโ€™s the sad state of the internet these days! Somewhere in there thereโ€™s a good zero-trust based review startups, which I hope someone builds and is able to grow :wink:.
I used to use foursquare but I don't think it is still used in Colombia so usually end up using Google maps.
anyone else in bogota at the moment?
Hi everyone, how are things in Colombia, covid restrictions wise, right now?
Also, any thoughts on Santa Marta and Medellin as potential nomad destinations?
Medellin has been a digital nomad destination since I can remember (at least 2005)
We are looking at houses for my suegra in Santa Marta. Pros itโ€™s close to the coast and relatively close to the mountains. Cons more difficult to catch international flights
has anybody done a visa run for colombia, any issues? my 3 month tourist visa expires soon so wanted go to peru for few days and then return to colombia
uhxpkv I did the exact same thing and didn't have any issues. I mean there was an issue I overstayed my 3 months and had to pay a fee, but then I did peru.
a 3-month tourist stamp (on-arrival is a stamp, not a visa, if you have an actual visa then I don't know) you can also extend once for another 3 months if that's the only reason for the visa run
Apparently it's pretty easy to extend to 180 days online, never tried but I plan to do so
People who have been living in Colombia for a long time do you have a perception that crime has increased in your area after Covid lockdowns?
I have family there (through wife) and they told us that things have gotten worse in some areas but we also know that tourism is booked out, there is a family member down there who own a small island resort and it is booked out months in advance. I imagine with money pouring in things will start to improve, I am still trying to find out the situation in Cartagena because I was planning to move there in november but I am probably going to end up in Baranquilla instead and might shift over to Cartagena later.
Iโ€™ve heard mixed things from family members in Medellin (Navarra, Buenos Aires and Manrique). Some say crime has skyrocketed and others have said everything is back to normal. Guess it depends which generation you ask.
Locals can often be hyperbolic because they are more sensitive to smaller changes.
Hi all! ๐Ÿ‘‹ I will be arriving to Medellin next week for the first time. Would love to meet some of you and explore/grab drinks if anyone is around! vblue_heart
Do you know of a site other than Airbnb to find long term rentals in Colombia in similar places?
dkkbpohxaz We found an apartment where we signed an actual lease but my wife has a cedula. I think it is possible without it but it might be more challenging. We found it through a facebook group, there is a bunch of them. Just ask and you will usually get a ton of messages.

Colombia has a law that any place that can rent under 30 days has to register and comply with hotel regulations. So don't bother with any other short term accomodations.

Another thing to think of is getting an unfurnished apartment for 6-12 months and just spending the money to furnish it, this could potentially be cheaper depending on how much stuff you need.
facebook groups. other than airbnb, i have been fortunate to have found really nice accommodations from FB groups. it takes more work and time to search but make a post and see if you get any responses
Yeah I wouldn't mind the 12-month lease and then just resell whatever I can and donate the rest. I've found a few sites in English to find rentals but prices seem catered to foreigners there. Do you know of any FB groups where locals go to or just the marketplace?
Thanks, I'm going to try this, do you have any group recommendation I should join?
Is it possible to do visa runs outside colombia to avoid the whole becoming a resident part? ๐Ÿค”
search for "digital nomads medellin" or "digital nomads around the world" or "expats in colombia" i always join groups for the city i am planning on going to ahead of time and do some networking and info gathering ๐Ÿ˜
I'm actually part of all of them ๐Ÿ˜‚ The digital nomads medellin didn't have anything I liked. Will try to find groups in Spanish ๐Ÿคž
ya, sometimes it takes some digging and searching. FB marketplace is a good place too.
in theory you become a tax resident if you spend more than 183 days on a 365 days period. That's theory, no idea if it is enforced
I think the 183/365 is on calendar year, so you can still do 12 months in a July-June term with extensions and a visa run
some more ideas:
โ€ข check the real estate sites like finca raiz
โ€ข walking around the area you like, asking the doormen about contacts of places for rent
โ€ข calling the numbers put out on large banners in balconies
โ€ข renting an airbnb short term and talking directly with the owner about long term off-airbnb, also asking the owner if they have / know of other properties
can work
I don't think you just magically become a resident, you have to take active steps to achieve that status. Overstaying a bit is only lightly penalized (in the 100-200usd range) up to 6 months, if you overstay more in one go then it gets a bit harsher including getting banned from reentry for a couple of years.

Also if you don't work locally and only bring the money inside the country, there is very little chance the DIAN would catch you - as I understand even Colombians don't pay much taxes on their foreign income bc they can get away with it
not really answering your question, but what's the appeal of a gated community with a bunch of equal looking housing vs like an apartment in a tower with a view of the whole valley? Legit curious, I've never lived in a place like this.
Hey guys, a bit of a niche visa-type question, but wondering if anyone knows. Iโ€™m an Indian citizen with a valid US tourist visa. I read that you donโ€™t need a visa to enter Colombia as long as you have a valid US/Schengen visa, but I havenโ€™t seen any governmental websites say this. Wondering if any of you know if this is actually true? Or, if any of you where I could ask to confirm this? />this page says after selecting India:
```You do not need a visa to enter Colombia if you are a US or Schengen visa holder with a minimum validity of 180 days at the time of entering Colombia (an airport transit visa is not admissible) or you have residence permit in a Member State of the Schengen Area or in the United States of America. Otherwise:
You must apply for a visa. Contact the Colombian consulate closest to your current place of residence.```
means you're good
You will need to get the visa at a Colombian consulate outside of Colombia, so they will verify everything when you get the tourist visa.
Thereโ€™s a few reasons for me but the main ones would be that Iโ€™m kinda used to it as In honduras I used to live in gated communities. It gives me an additional sense of safety and kinda feels more like home than living in an apartment.

I really prefer 1 floor of stairs to get to my room than 10 floors in an elevator.

It usually also means I slow down a little, have a better kitchen most of the time and I enjoy the extra space.

Thereโ€™s also a little More contact with most of the neighbors and itโ€™s nice building that type of relationships.
For me is usually, apartments for short term, 6 months or less and house or townhouse for long term, 6+ months.
Yeah I mean doing visa runs instead of going through all the becoming a resident process.

Yeah I believe is basically the same as in most LATAM countries, the rule is there, but thereโ€™s usually no mechanism to enforce it or thereโ€™s too little interest in doing so. Still a possibility but really remote one.
But just to clarify, I would totally pay any taxes due if Iโ€™m living there. But some Latino countries make it so hard moving there that I he process really makes no sense for some.
perpetually staying with visa runs is a bit problematic because they might not let you back into the country after a while (actually happened to a friend of mine, he then spent 2 weeks in Panama and then entered via a smaller city and got in without issues)
if you're thinking of a year and not coming back much in the near future I'd go for the 90 days upon entry + extension + a bit overstay + a visa run in the new year and do it again combination. As long as you're in the country nobody cares, but getting back when you already have overstayed much before may get you into trouble (refusing entry, nothing more serious ofc)
valid points, I see the difference in our preferences
I got the impression that these gated communities are a bit more rare here and it seems that it's for the rich people (as in a level richer than us) but that was only my perception, I haven't been interested in getting into a place like that.
If you don't need to be in Medellรญn proper, there are a bunch of places a 20-30 min drive away where you can get a whole finca in a gated community (like Santa Elena) that might be an option as well
Thanks guys, your source seems legit xzpbdy so hopefully they let me into the country ๐Ÿคž
good luck!
๐Ÿ›ฌ quritedr just arrived in โ›ฐ Medellรญn, #colombia
Where are the areas has most nomads in Medellin? Planning to come end of the this month probably
Probably El Poblando if I were to guess.
Poblado and Laureles
Poblado if you want an international environment, restaurants, bars, and don't mind walking up and down hills all the time
Laureles is more flat and walkable, and a bit less touristic
Poblado is great for coffee shops/coworking, there are plenty of them
๐Ÿ›ฌ yrgnxptxzsnzsi just arrived in โ›ฐ Medellรญn, #colombia
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