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that's a nice advice, thanks! ๐Ÿ’š
Is there a UK phone network that gives you a decent amount of data in Europe? GiffGaff used to be good but from the 26th July you can only use 5GB.
EE. Been using my line as usual since I left the UK in February.
I believe the only provider who hasn't announced roaming charges (yet?) is O2
Actually sounds like GiffGaff has one of the better post-Brexit roaming offerings! But sounds like they're quite strict about turning it off if you don't go back to UK regularly
nuryysetfknujtnn you're right, I forgot about that. My contact started before July 2021.
Itโ€™s annoying AF. Itโ€™s because EU carriers are now rinsing UK carriers with fees because of Brexit.
The best option tbh is probably just something like www.airalo.com/|Airalo and have that running in parallel to GiffGaff for data.
That's what I'm doing now, decided to just stay with Three and get Airalo abroad. That said, being in the UK at the moment reminded me how bad the Three network is within the UK, so I do regret committing to another year see_no_evilsweat_smile
Id never heard of Airalo. Anyone have an opinion on it?
Itโ€™s decent
It works well. Of course, a bit more expensive than getting a local physical SIM, but still reasonably priced
Youโ€™re paying a small premium for the convenience. I consider it like paying someone $5 to go fetch a SIM card for me.
Makes me think, I should try out Airalo in UK, I'm sure they're more reliable than three ๐Ÿ˜…
Hi everyone, im going to Europe next week to stay for 2 months. I donโ€™t have any plans or places in particular and it will be my first time there too. Whatโ€™s the places that i canโ€™t miss in your opinion?
I need to get my tonsils removed, any suggestion on what country/city go in Europe for that? I have no plans to go back home for that (or anything at all) but not sure how long I would need to stay and so on.

My insurance would most likely cover it.
Anyone got a referral code for urban sports club they wanna DM me?
how strict is the 90-day visa rule for Europe? I think I'm currently scheduled to leave on my 94th day. wondering if anybody has done this before
i think i found the hack for 2022. fly to Croatia!
Generally I'd always assume immigration and visa rules are extremely strict. Might not get a visa in the future if you overstayed in the past
Hi! I was wondering if anyone did a road trip in Norway/Finland so I could ask some questions โœŒ๏ธ
Varies a lot depending on the country. Where are you flying out from? Also, will it be 94 days straight or 94 days in the last 180 days? Some countries don't usually bother to add up all your trips to see if you stayed over 90 days. I think it also depends on where you are from (sadly). But if you stay 94 days straight you might be really pushing your luck, especially if you're leaving from Germany, Switzerland, Denmark...
leaving from Romania most likely
From the US
94 straight
was in Romania for 3 weeks in May too
The 90 days is schengen, not Europe. Romania is not schengen.
Also, it's 90 out of 180 rolling, not 90 consecutive.
Incredible ty
Romania has it's own 90/180 policy for the country itself, but I'm heading there soon due to it being out of the Schengen zone. Did you like it there?
epic!
it's amazing there for me
music food vibes people were great
Bucharest?
Thanks U02B01JLUUE!
Anyone knows what's the deal with Andorra? I'm currently in Spain and will need to leave before my 90 days are over, looking through options I noticed Andorra.

AFAIK they have movement free agreement with Spain and France but does that mean they also count towards my 90 days in the Schengen area? Or I can just go there for 90 days like any other country?
sounds like technically it would not count as time in Schengen but might be hard to get a passport stamp to prove that you actually left.. motorhomer.com/threads/has-anybody-done-andorra-or-any-other-non-schengen-given-the-90-180-limit-rule.43350/
When I was leaving Andorra it seemed like some people went out of a bus and probably stamped their passports. I could be wrong.
A bit late to the party, but I use my business account with telia.ee|telia.ee for most of the EU roaming, which can be ~โ‚ฌ3 for 7G of EU Roaming. It can go up to 40 G for โ‚ฌ24. and this amount can be shared between multiple data sims (up to 4 I think). On top of that you'd pay for a voice line (โ‚ฌ4.8) and for a data line (โ‚ฌ3).

Those prices include special offer plans (that you can generally request). Larger data has 5G roaming, which is amazing!

All the rest global roaming (including non-eu countries like Switzerland, Andorra, etc) I use mtxc.eu|mtxc.eubr />
If I stay long enough and I need lots of data I get a local sim card (rare nowdays).
Hi people, I recently joined this community (and love it so far). It's my first time traveling outside the Americas, what city would you guys recommend in the European area (west or east) for <$1k/mo rent budget and thatโ€™s good for doing focused work (so not looking for clubs, party scene, Etc)

Thanks in advance!
What sort of place do you wanna stay in for that $1k? If you're fine with subletting a small room, you can find that pretty much everywhere with some effort, but if you want a mansion it's gonna be harder ๐Ÿ™ƒ
Las palmas and Tenerife in spain are nice options always. You can find decent accommodation for that price.
๐Ÿ›ฌ bpetwrgdsrqrpa just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Baku,Azerbaijan, #europe
Ok thanks
Bansko, Bulgaria!
Nice, thatโ€™s on my short list now
vuoccegtup is bansko friendly towards foreigners? how are the people like there?
Yes, very friendly. And there's a thriving community of digital nomads there so there's always activities going on, and people to meet. We have several coworking spaces there too. Itโ€™s a really good first place to try nomading.
search YouTube for some videos on it.
Amazing :star-struck:.. haha I saw a YouTube video thatโ€™s what made me gravitate towards it.
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Wikipedia says this:

> Also, four European microstates โ€” Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, and the Vatican City โ€” maintain open borders for passenger traffic with their neighbours, and are therefore considered de facto members of the Schengen Area due to the practical impossibility of travelling to or from them without transiting through at least one Schengen member country.
๐Ÿ›ฌ ucihjtqggmffccb just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฆ Sarajevo,Bosnia, #europe
Hello everyone! As DNs what has been your experience on going through customs / immigration in Europe (Schengen area)? I know we must say we're "tourists" but how do you justify your long stays? Have you ever been asked to show proof of accommodation / funds? Thank you in advance!
My experience was that the 1st time they asked for every single thing. Proof of accommodation, proof of funds (90EUR per day), travel insurance, etc.

These days they just ask how long I'm staying wish me a good day.

Probably the more you get in and out the less of a stay risk you become.

I still would recommend having the airbnb/hotel booking at hand and a flight outside europe but chances are that if you have traveled before inside the zone you wouldn't need them.
Similar experience to me. The more I travel the less they ask
Which kind of problems? Going to fly from Berlin to London in two weeks.
US citizen - never been asked about funds. I got grilled once entering Germany (was probably like my 10th time entering Schengen) but they just asked me questions about what cities I was staying in, name of hostel etc. I don't think they ever asked me for proof of anything, or to see the onward travel ticket
Huge queues still in Hamburg
Hey everyone!

In 2023 Iโ€™l be looking for a DN visa in Europe to stay more than 90 days in schengen, but I still want to be tax resident of my home country (Brazil). Hereโ€™s my questions :

1 - Whatโ€™s the easiest DN visa to get within the schengen? My initial Guess was Malta and Greece
2 - My plan is to live < 183 days in the schengen/DN visa country to keep my tax residence in Brazil. Sounds good ?
3 - Is there any possibility to renew this VISA in the next year or one of the constraints of these visas is to stay more than 183 days? Thatโ€™s the most obscure question, couldnโ€™t find anything related.

If somebody have faced similar situation please keep the thread up!
All of the DN visas require that you spend more than 6 months there, usually a year, which requires a tax residency change
Yeah, you can't have your cake and eat it ๐ŸŽ‚ sucks, but the whole point of DN visas is to increase tax revenue, you don't get to stay longer without paying any tax ๐Ÿ˜”
The only way is to be rich enough to be able to afford an investor citizenship probably ๐Ÿค”
Or marry someone with EU passport maybe ๐Ÿ˜…
Yeah, EU countries donโ€™t want people unless they pay taxes. You can find something like this outside of the EU though.
Is there a similar european vibe in a country nearby that's not EU? maybe the move
or you could leave to UK after 90 and come back? not sure how they treat that
I bounce between schengen and Bulgaria every 90 days
The question is that UK sucks in my perspective, I love Spain and would like to stay more there. But yeah, I got itโ€ฆ
Maybe Andorra ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ฉ DN visa, Iโ€™ve heard the taxes there are really low
As Brazilian, do you have access to Portuguese passport in any way? Might be worth the bureaucracy to get it.
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I can get the visa but leave the country before 6 months and not be eligible for taxes
that's usually a violation of the visa
I could be wrong but I think Croatia digital nomad visa exempts you from taxes in the country.

They are already EU and starting January part of Schengen. Not sure what the minimum stay requirement is tho.
Looping for this now and looks like the most appealing visa for my case, thanks lwhsgvddnhmayl
Hi there!
Random โ“ Any suggestion for a nice place in Europe to go spend 2 months (probably Nov-Dec or Jan-Feb)?
Criteria Not too expensive, cosy lifestyle, safe, with a decent international community to hang out, preferably on the coast (even if it will be too cold to swim ^^)
I loved Valencia (and consider going there again, but Airbnbs for 2 months are quite expensive there).
By looking around, I've got Valencia, Mallorca, Ericeira (promoted by Pieter I think), Klaipeda (because I find Lithuania intriguing), Gran Canaria and Madeira on my list of potentials.
I feel that some places in Italy could be cool to, but I don't know the country enough to know the different vibes of the different regions

Second random โ“ I've seen some people grouping together to rent flats in the same city a few years ago (I think it was in Javea), in the spirit of sharing the costs and having a nice cohort to travel together. Do you know if there are still such initiatives around?

Sorry for the long questions, and thanks in advance for the answers :)
I donโ€™t have a good answer, but curious about why specifically Europe? If you want to be on the coast in November/December, I would go southern hemisphere (I go to South Africa around then)
I'm a US citizen, entered the Schengen area through Finland with my US passport, and just got my Estonian passport issued from my long-latent dual citizenship. When I leave Schengen, which passport do I show? I'm thinking I should go to the foreigner line, show both, and explain I just got my Estonian one. I would think they make a record of me leaving with my Estonian passport that would put me under suspicion when I return to Europe if I don't present it upon leaving. But I would also think they want to see the US one to stamp me out and so I'm not in their system as a visa overstayer.
I'd leave with the US one to not overstay the visa on it. I don't think the records are checked as much as you think. Especially if you leave from a different Schengen country, I'm not sure they share all that data so widely
yeah you show both or whichever ones need stamps, but you can go to the US / shorter line afaik (I know someone in a similar situation who got gently chided by the border guard with a โ€˜and did you swim here?โ€™ in Iceland when transfering after leaving europe on one passport and trying to go onwards with the US one)
because you travelled in on the US one I think you actually just show that one โ€” no problem having a passport and not using it except in specific situations (e.g. it is illegal to enter/exit South Africa on a non-south african passport if you also hold a south african one, but that is not the case in most countries).
> but curious about why specifically Europe? If you want to be on the coast in November/December, I would go southern hemisphere
I really like Europe, and I lived abroad for a while, so I am a bit in a quest of exploring Europe more :slightly_smiling_face:
I am secretly dreaming of going back to Australia, and spend a few months in Brisbane during the summer there, but it's a bit too money_with_wingsmoney_with_wings ๐Ÿ˜…
I would avoid Klaipeda at that time of the year. Itโ€™s dark, freezing and dead. I would visit during the summer months (June-August) instead if you wish to go. All the other alternatives sound as way better options
Heyyy I'm from Spain, if you go to the south, you'll have cheap prices and good weather, it never feels like really winter as it's sunny most of the time.

My hometown is Sevilla which is lovely, as you can go walking every where and many places to eat and drink cheap, people are nice to foreigners and there are a lot of plans, I don't know how is the international community now but when I lived there I usually went out with many international people, there a lot of people coming because of exchange programs

Also, I think the greatest community of international people is in Barcelona but is not cheap and the weather is worst compared to the South

Also you can go to Malta, I think there are quite a lot of foreigners, I went there last year, is not as cheap as some places in Spain but still nice to be there

Also, Croatia is a good destination that you have both, cheap prices and coast, not sure about the international community. Also, it's safe.

hope it helps crossed_fingersskin-tone-2smile
Thanks for the recommendations!

Indeed Klaipeda might be better in late-spring or summer, thanks for pointing this out! Timing is indeed important when choosing a location :)

Sevilla, Malta and Croatia are all good suggestions, thanks I'll look into it! I've also seen some rural coliving in Spain that can match what I am looking for, so it might well be Spain again :)
It is good practice to enter/exit a country with the same passport. Exception is when you do a "change of status" (ie enter as resident, then get naturalized) but this is not your case.
I have Greek and US passports. I always enter Schengen on my Greek passport and USA on my US passport.
When I fly out, I show the destination passport at airport check-in (ie in Greece I check-in with my US passport) and the local passport to exit immigration (ie Greek passport to "step out" of Greece).
Hope this helps.
๐Ÿ›ฌ xlxxxklymyquc just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฆ Mostar,Bosnia, #europe
that pen outline needs a NSFW tag though
What mobile plan y'll use to travel around Europe? I was checking Vodafone but it cost 29EUR per month. Does anyone have another recommendation? With e-sim.
I use Airalo's Europe eSIM. $13 for 3GB for 30 days
i was using Nomad but sometimes it stop to work lol
Isn't all SIM card in EU works anywhere in EU?
I use my home plan from Tele2 and it works perfectly everywhere.
if you have a plan like vodafone as I said, you can use for 6 months in EU
Hop by Spain and get Lobster, havenโ€™t been in Spain since 2020 and I get 20GB monthly across EU for 18EUR, downside is no app and shitty website. Think they have a smaller plan as well.
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