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Hello people! My wife and I are considering a 3-6 month trip to Europe (we have a friend currently in the UK offering us some free time crashing in their spare room) -- what countries can you recommend that are cost-effective digital nomad destinations?
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vvmwjmadszijgi define cost effective please? and what level of internet do you need? when? what temps do you like? what activities do you like? big city? small town? Mountains? beach?
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in general, staying south and east will save you money.
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uhmknucgpmmlrd Love the follow up Q's! I like cold weather, my wife likes warm weather, I like mountains, she likes beaches! bahaha

Jokes aside -- we have a decent income and flexible work, we really just require reasonably priced accomodation and good 3G/4G internet if possible.
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define reasonably priced please. we just had a discussion in another channel and people are paying $150 - $3000 a month for lodging. so your reasonable might be completely different from mine.
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kueevvwrexttkp Good point -- uhhhh, like USD$1500-ish a month maybe?
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so if that's your lodging budget then pretty much anywhere in europe will work outside of excessively expensive countries/cities
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excessively expensive = london, oslo, stockholm, etc.
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assuming you don't require a palace. :)
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plqaytsesbkehm Right now we're traveling Australia in our caravan, so we're pretty stoked when we have a bathroom that doesn't connect directly to the kitchen area! ๐Ÿ˜‚
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wmqcaqcyjbfyiw Mind if I message you for some tips and tricks on where to stay? Reading your blog and I am a little ๐Ÿคฏ right now trying to take in how you travel on such an awesome budget! ๐Ÿ˜„
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lol. sure, always happy to answer questions. and i might pick your brain as i'm just about to buy a van to kit out and live in. ๐Ÿ˜„
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olvbgawkpjtwgk Anything I can help with, I will! :)
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hojrkiowruxepb you should really look into Slack Threads, which would save you from tagging people in every message
www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14305528/slack-threads-threaded-messages
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For beach <> mountain / warm <> cold I'd recommend Northern Spain - it has stunning nature, accommodating to van life, great cheap food, and solid Internet
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Meh. I hate threads
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I am curious as to the downsides - not trying to convince you, genuinely curious
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Also anti-threading. If people want threads they should start a message board. IMO chat should be more conversational, which is antithetical to threads
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>antithetical to threads
in what way are threads not conversational?
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it makes a conversation nonsequential
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To me, unthreaded conversations are a bit like walking into a networking event and starting to yell your introduction. Then someone else continues yelling their conversation they were having before you came in. People looking back won't be able to tell who was saying what about which topic.
FWIW Slack is not just an instant messenger - features like threads try to move it beyond simple text exchange and more into the space of 'info that can be read back async'
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i just find it annoying. i only use them if i am responding to something older where my response would not make sense in-line.
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it's rare that so many different convos are going on that this would be an issue
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thankfully there are no rules and people can use it however they want.
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>i just find it annoying
I respect that, I am still looking to understand the downsides/what makes it annoying/nonsequential
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because i can't just comment. i have to find the thread, open it, etc. it's not convenient. and if i'm in a thread and others comment i get 1009 alerts until i mute it. but if i mute it i don't see potential comments i might want to see because they're not in the channel.
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Ah, okay, now we're getting somewhere! Thank you for sharing!

You do use the 'Threads' section at top-left of Slack screen?

FWIW Threading gets me FEWER notifications, and the notifications I get are more likely to be about something I am interested in. Right now you get notified for every comment in a channel, right? It may be a topic you care about, or one you don't care about. If Threads are used, you can partake (and get notified) on those subjects of interest to you, and not get notified by the messages being added to a thread that doesn't interest you
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It really works wonders in terms of addressing the noise/signal ratio of communications - trick is, it needs critical mass
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> if i'm in a thread and others comment i get 1009 alerts
if you're in a channel and others comment you get 1009 alerts
if everyone's using threads, and in that channel there is ๐Ÿฆ topic you care about and ๐ŸŽ you don't care about, you can get the 300 ๐Ÿฆ notifications but ignore then 709 ๐ŸŽ ones.

> i have to find the thread, open it
that's where the Threads sidebar section comes to save you! It shows you threads you're part of, so you don't even have to go through channel itself!
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no i have no channel notifications on. i'd go fucking nuts
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so i only get alerts for threaded posts
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i do my commenting in the channels. i don't want to have to click on stuff aside from the channel to respond.
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Thanks for entertaining me!
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Always happy to entertain. :) bear in mind i'm super lazy. also, you can turn off channel notifications. i only get notified if i am qa mentioned. otherwise i'd never see my screen from constant alerts.
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then i scroll channels as i have time.
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Morning time here in ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ and I am just getting back to this. lcixdujmsmkv I am with the other guys, but actually for different reasons.

Threads always just seem to get lost. I am on Slack about 12-14hrs a day every day and I always find that the best way to hear back from people and keep conversations flowing is with unthreaded conversations. :)
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How well does making a claim for a delayed EU flight work ? Are they good about paying out? Had a flight delayed 5 hours.
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I think it can take a while and be a pain. There is a service you can use that will do it for you can keep a percentage.
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ugh it's such a PITA. I had 6 hour delay, they denied and denied. even airhelp wouldn't touch it ๐Ÿคฆ just gave up
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I used a service and it worked flawlessly - I'll look up the name
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zxdhvxbfes Well, it's the law that you get a compensation, so in theory you can even sue them I guess. I only was in this situation once with a delayed flight out of Europe, even on a non-European airline. I just sent them a message like "According to the law, I am entitled to a compensation of ..." and everything worked out nicely. (Maybe it helped that it was a Japanese airline, I guess they are fairly civilized in that respect...)
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If you decide to go via one of those compensation companies, make sure to read the fine print - they often keep 1/3 of the compensation. I figured that I could give it a try with one email before engaging with such a company...
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yep.. I made a claim with the airline directly, because it looks like they should owe me at least $250 and I had 2 tickets, so actually $500.. I'd rather not give a chunk of that away to a collection agency.
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Yeah, it's easy enough to just mail the airlinea directly in Europe. Never taken me more than a single email the few times it's happened to me.
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Hey all! I am 100% sure this has been asked a million times, but has anyone done a long stay visa in Europe in order to get around the 90 day limit in Schengen zone?

My wife and I both work remotely full time, we have a very decent savings account that should meet any savings requirements, and we can prove employment to keep us stable. Anything else we need to worry about?

Also, during the year am I able to leave and return at will? I wish to travel back and forth from the UK.
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i think a couple people have done them in spain and germany. most people just zone hop
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mlobnyoggzirwa How did I know you'd have some great advice on this?! haha

I was reading that France has a 1 year visa you can get as a freelancer or remote worker, seemed kind of cool!
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yfbukulmsdmdjk I don't suppose you have bought a vehicle in Europe or know someone who has bought one as long term tourist?
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if all goes as planned, i'll be buying one by end of October.
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i'm doing it through bulgaria
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as i'm not getting residency anywhere it's the easiest/only option
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Can I ask why you're doing it in Bulgaria?
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cshuchyfohqmlr I read a blog post about buying in the UK that made things sound kind of easy. Do you think maybe it's a little oversimplified?
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Yes. And that would likely require purchasing aright hand drive vehicle. I'd you're going to be driving around Europe, you probably want to be on the right side of the car most of the time.
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And with brexit looming I would not tie myself to the UK unless you're living there.
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Awesome advice, thank you so much! Sounds like we need to think about it a little more. Would love to know how you got on buying a vehicle in Bulgaria and the process you went through.
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Concerning buying a vehicle in Europe. I don't know if it's common but I know that if one owns a property in Sweden one can buy/register a car in Sweden. As one can get small cabins down to โ‚ฌ10000 that might be an option for some.
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I guess buying an empty lot would work too. These can be had for โ‚ฌ2000.
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from the research i did, which was a lot since i'm buying a van to live in, bulgaria is easiest and it's still a pain in the ass.
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the lot idea is interesting...
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Hey all, it's a copypaste from #budapest but maybe here it would be more visible. I'm looking to get more information about US-Hungary old pre-schengen agreement. Thanks for any input and pointers!
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I'm not even 100% that such agreement exists, I only know about Poland and Scandinavia (Denmark, specifically)
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i've note heard anything about hungary. easiest are poland and denmark then portugal.
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I've been researching it for almost 4 hours, and haven't found anything besides couple posts. Looks like those are not good source of information.
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Thank you for your comment
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gypjbhsfvbtaqd After your posts regarding Bulgaria I also became interested in this beautiful country. Could you point somewhere where I can look into more residency details? Can I buy a land lot somewhere there and get a residency this way? :)
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Yeah, land is cheap. So are condos. Looking at ov โ‚ฌ12k for a condo in bansko. Probably can do residency with that. Planning to ask my lawyer next week and can update.
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Please do rrfqwsgrbpqjzx That's a really good price for sure.
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Also good that Bulgarian language seems to be very similar to Russian)
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jakuwawgatk I actually turned around at a cafe here in the US the other day thinking the folks behind me were Russian...but turns out they were Bulgarian so I couldn't actually understand anything beyond the basics of ั ะฝะต ะทะฝะฐัŽ or ะ”ะฐ ัะฟะฐัะธะฑะพ
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The accent is really similar (to my ears) so I can't imagine it would be hard for you to pick up the vocabulary
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Yeah, Bulgarian has a bit of everything but a base alphabet which helps.
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As a native Russian speaker, I can attest that I can read and understand a good % of Bulgarian. Also, it is quite possible to converse with them in Russian, an most people will be able to do basic communication
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That's cool, well then it's a great destination :)
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Bulgarian lawyer?
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Yes
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I just today managed to open a personal Bulgarian bank account, which is a requirement for residency, and the first step on the road to a 10% flat tax rate ๐Ÿ˜‰
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ftbvnmahyh what nationality are you?
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UK, but there was a small stumbling block, as Iโ€™m Maltese tax-registered, and allegedly its considered an offshore tax haven in Bulgariaโ€ฆ
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We did share a laugh during the process thoughโ€ฆโ€˜at least youโ€™re not Americanโ€ฆโ€™
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lol
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yeah....
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Hey all, my wife and I are making plans to head over to the UK mid-March and spend some time between the UK and Europe. We have a series of house sits booked that aren't in cities so we'll likely need car hire in those times -- any recommendations for quality yet cheap car rental?
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I'd probably check Europcar and Sixt in these cases. Dunno if they match your level of cheapness though, but I found them to be good quality (at least in Germany and UK).
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i always just search on priceline and kayak and the like and find the best option. ryanair can have good deals too. i've also gotten good deals book through my credit card.
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Anyone knows any good way to fly to funchal madeira ? Seems a bit hard to find direct flight from other places then lisbon
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Azores, Canary islands, Germany
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Germany nice
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dtkpxpkgfj just arrived in Sliema,Malta, #europe
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No I havenโ€™t. Iโ€™m still in Bankso. I donโ€™t arrive until this eveningโ€ฆ. ๐Ÿค”
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Itโ€™s probably because of the hour set by the bot, cc pojpirzcuc
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we only know dates of trips not times!
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