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If you are at Castle, where would I find you?
4 of us are in the beer garden
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Hey DNers,
I am trying to find out if any of you achieved full location independence while holding down a regular employment contract in Germany?` If so, what did you put in the contract?

Situation:
I am a German citizen working as a regular employee in a german company(paying social and health insurance in Germany). I will maintain both my habitual residence(pay for an apartment) and tax residence in Germany.
My current job contract says I am bound to be employed in a city in Germany. But I have been nomading(after coming to an agreement) with my company for the last couple of years. Though this worked, there were times my company was asked to come back to Germany. So,
Now, I want to make it official in the contract with some certainity. I thought I would ask my company to change my work contract to say "remote".

But I just realized this does not give me 100% location independence as the company could say "Your contract is under german regulations and you are supposed to return from nomading and work from Germany physically".To have more certainty, I am thinking out loud and seeking your guidance. The options that I could think of now are

`1. Changing the job contract will suffice?`

`2. Get HR sign a Workplace relocation letter where they write a line which says "You are allowed to work from India? This will allow me to protect myself being summoned back to Germany on an instant ?`

`3. My company has posted employees abroad() for some of their employees to other EU countries(like Italy) for 3 months initially as they said posting an employee for a longer than 3 months require more paper-work and complicated? This seem time-limited as well.`

Perhaps there is a better option?
Ideas from on top of my mind:
1. Work as a freelancer, not employed.
2. Work with an umbrella company in between. With a residence outside DE that doesnโ€™t force you to stay in the country. Iโ€™m not sure if such a country actually exists. deel.com could serve as an umbrella company.
Thanks..i need it as a full time employee for a few months (6-12 months) .. so i need a stop gap solution.. Thanks for the link to deel as it gives me more confidence to go with them when i make the switch
Hey everyone,

Wanted to know, is anyone attending Oktoberfest in Munich next weekend ?

Iโ€™ll be visiting from Berlin for the weekend and wanted to know if I can join someone for the Oktoberfest. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
Agreed. I think the main challenge with building fully employment is surrounding taxes as Germany only allows 90 days aboard I believe until you and the company needs to pay i other countries
joba15d
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Hmm, changing the contract to something like that sounds like a huge pain for your company due to all those legal and tax questions... If it works in practice for you, probably easier not to open that battle field (even though I understand Germans like to put everything into written rules :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:). If it doesn't work for you on practice because they ask you back too often, maybe just make it clear to them that you'll look for something else if they keep doing that? (If you're not willing to do that, you don't have much negotiation power anyways that would get them to change the contract)
pqnzsjxqcvan i was wondering if the company is in the clear since i will be outside of non EU most of the year as there are no social taxes in India that my company will need to pay ? I am planning to nomad to avoid Double tax on a personal level?
iinwkmsleqwxtvvy exactly what I am leaning towards now.. Last time, they gave a letter which said i am allowed to work from India for a year ( option 2 above). we dint change the job contract and worry about anything else.. they started nudging to come back after a year and i was extending.. i could now ask them to give the same letter without a time restriction and be done with it? Will this letter protect me from any further ask to visit Germany from my company right? ( even though we won't change the contact with this option)..
I mean if you spend more than half a year in India, then legally you're a tax resident in India now and they need to set up payroll for you there (or do it as freelancing), no? Everything else is probably illegal, so I doubt any letter is binding anyways ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
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It normally doesn't matter if you're in EU or outside if you're not in the country your contract states so Germany in your case I guess. Some companies make it even more complicated when it gets to health insurance, work accidents etc. German law is pretty strict and behind in remote work. I would try to speak to a lawyer/tax accountant that can look at your case after having checked your contract in detail.
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Anybody in Berlin and wanna grab drinks tn?
I'm in the potsdamer platz area
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how can we get Munich to get the ๐Ÿบ instead of Berlin? Especially this time of the year? fnweowohgb
Berlin should probably get the ๐Ÿ’Š haha
Do any of you have recommendations on where to get good dirndl and lederhosen quickly in Munich ?
decent ones? go to Angermaier Trachten

expect to pay around 300 for Lederhosen.
if you want to go cheaper, you can go to Galeria Kaufhof or Karstadt, I think Iโ€™ve seen a sign advertising for 150 there
just donโ€™t get the ones youโ€™d see at a halloween store. better off with normal clothes then
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Anyone in Berlin currently? maybe do meet up this or next weekend?
sxmpihoouhwk is proposing a nomadlist.com/meetups#ff1acb4df0f7a39e366338a3f4a963a6|meetup in Berlin, #germany at Cl%C3%A4rchens%20 on Saturday, 8 October at 19:00. "Would love to meet and chat in Berlin. Totally open for other locations as well :)" โœ… RSVP here nomadlist.com/meetups#ff1acb4df0f7a39e366338a3f4a963a6
uceqptwexgfo is organizing a nomadlist.com/meetups#ff1acb4df0f7a39e366338a3f4a963a6|meetup in Berlin, # at Clรคrchens on Saturday, 8 October at 19:00. "Would love to meet and chat in Berlin. Totally open for other locations as well :)" โœ… RSVP here nomadlist.com/meetups#ff1acb4df0f7a39e366338a3f4a963a6
ofxrzcfgslzi is proposing a nomadlist.com/meetups#f3effd03e3fb4a2a6b211c50af5518f1|meetup in Berlin, #germany at Cl%C3%A4rchens%20Ballroom on Saturday, 1 October at 19:00. "Had the wrong weekend originally, apologies. " โœ… RSVP here nomadlist.com/meetups#f3effd03e3fb4a2a6b211c50af5518f1
ttsfixhmbwbx is organizing a nomadlist.com/meetups#f3effd03e3fb4a2a6b211c50af5518f1|meetup in Berlin, # at Clรคrchens Ballroom on Saturday, 1 October at 19:00. "Had the wrong weekend originally, apologies." โœ… RSVP here nomadlist.com/meetups#f3effd03e3fb4a2a6b211c50af5518f1
Hey wxkwfswqhhmz is the event on the 8th of October not happening ? ๐Ÿ˜ž
I am arriving next Wednesday, so definitely down to meet and do something together !!
I meant to schedule for the 1st, but did 8th by accident. We can of course do another one ๐Ÿ™‚
Ah, 1st I can not do either, 8th would have worked ๐Ÿ˜”
I canโ€™t do the evening of the 8th but we can certainly schedule another meetup/day ๐Ÿ™‚
I'd be interested in that, I won't get to Berlin until the 7th so the afternoon meetup was perfect
We could go to Klunkerkranich on Saturday night (07/10), what do you guys think? ๐Ÿ’ƒ
Does anyone have any hostel reccomendations in Berlin?
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are you looking into a specific area?
Looks good! I guess you mean the 8th?
indeed ๐Ÿ™‚ ! svpukdzwmlrgtjht
โš ๏ธ ovpeohhyhjms changed the nomadlist.com/meetups|Berlin meetup>. It will now be at www.google.com/maps/search/Brew%20Dog%20Mitte,+Ackerstra%C3%9Fe%2029%2C%20Berlin%2C%2010115,+Berlin|Brew Dog Mitte> on Saturday, 1 October at 1900 "Had the wrong weekend originally, apologies.
Table reserved at Brew Dog Mitte under my name, starting at 7pm. Looking forward to meeting you all" โœ… RSVP here nomadlist.com/meetups#f3effd03e3fb4a2a6b211c50af5518f1
Can anyone recommend a good gym that offers day passes? Ideally, it is south of Tiergarten.
Maybe some kind of crossfit gym that offers day passes/drop-ins to use the equipment. Afaik it's possible at `evope` for example, but that's way north.
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Hey lovely people, where are you staying in Berlin? coliving, apartments, airbnbs (to me they are quite crazy prices atm), what are your solutions ? :slightly_smiling_face:
Does anyone would like to share an apartment or a house and we split the expenses so it's a win-win for everyone? I find it super hard.. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Found a sublet via wg-gesucht.de|wg-gesucht.de at local prices as far as I can tell ๐Ÿ˜Š
Just did a video chat to make sure it's not a scam
Hey jqrnmphucykzvdpo thank you so much for your feedback! I have indeed checked this website and sent a lot of requires but no answers yet :confused:

I am glad you found yourself!!!
Hmm, that sucks ๐Ÿ˜” maybe also check spotahome, not as cheap as a sublet, but certainly a lot cheaper than AirBnB
also already done yeah a bit too high for me as prices... I am sure I will find something ๐Ÿ™‚ thank you again for your concern
I have a friend who is subletting 2-br (maisonette but not good for WG) for 1500โ‚ฌ in Prenzlauer Berg
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Tableโ€™s in the back by the kitchen ๐Ÿบ
what's up, we are here, meeting at the end near a kitchen
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