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This channel is pretty quiet for the news I hear about HK
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Any nomads around?
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We're headed there in October. Would love to know how people are doing.
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kkynfpxwqv I think most of that kind of discussion is in #_politics
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it's likely a bit sensitive for the regional channel
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Mmm, gotch. Headed there in a few weeks hope everything's lower key than it seems from online
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it is only concentrated in the areas of protest, everywhere else is business as usual
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Anyone have trouble with the airport?
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Prob my biggest concern
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Nope - I've transited HKG recently and had no issues.
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No real issues TBH. Been via HKG several times in the past few weeks..
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They won't allow the airport to be taken over like that again...
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glad to hear that for the most selfish of reasons.
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Any cool co-living options in HK?
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Hey guys, looking to visit HK this month. Any nice hotel deals? Hoping the protests have dragged down prices a bit
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Chunking mansions
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Dodgy af
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I booked through booking.com
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For a week accomodation
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Searched that labyrinth for an hour looking for the reception of the hotel
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Everything about that place felt shady
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Couldn't find the hotel pretty sure they swap signs in and out or something dodgy
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So I just booked a different place
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I found Airbnb here in these days super neat!
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Anyone try working from one of the places mainly just accessible by ferry (like Lamma, Peng Chau, Mui Wo?
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Are hotel/airbnb really cheaper to book ? i'm considering HK bc of that
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Yeah, I did see prices about 30-40% lower the other day...
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an other โ“ I believe what show the media is over-reacted? If you stay outside of the manifestation it's fine?
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Mostly, yes... but like anything it could spread quickly.
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The big issue has been the fact that the MTR was closed for a while (I'm no longer on the ground there, so this is all second hand from friends who still live there).
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I see, thanks for the insight mselmsx
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It's a shame, because despite how expensive the place was, it was a great experience. All up I lived in HK for just over 3.5 years..
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wow 3.5 is a long time , why /where did you move out?
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Time for a change....and HK is pretty small, even given it's 7+ million population..
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I've been mostly on the road, with longer stints in Taipei and KL
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nice, we should meet if you're in tpe in feb->april
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That's insane.
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whats the mood like over there, sounds tense..
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dang, don't that impact the whole economy? everyone taking taxi ?
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Hong Kong isn't that big and there are alternatives
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Typically they'll run extra busses
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And yes, people are trying to ignore it - and there is a burgeoning frustration with the protestors
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There isn't clarity in the goals, so people just see it was disruption for the sake of disruption
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Which is what happened with the occupy movement. Everyday people started getting pissed off that their lives were being disrupted by a bunch of "kids".
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ofomqexnkyfxgdu interesting, I do want to check out the general mood and get some work done for a few days, is it generally feeling empty in non-protest areas?
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It's a thing people do
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you can probably get some good deals on hotels and such
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I mean...I don't think anyone is in danger, especially if you avoid the protests, so unless you really just don't want to be inconvenienced, I don't think there's a reason to avoid it
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agree with beufl I haven't had any issues in HK so far
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you have a point
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Hong Kong has plenty of vegetarian options there are plenty of Buddhists
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If you say you're Buddhist, most restaurants will accommodate
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Hong Kong is Hong Kong - if you're going, you likely know what you're getting into
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Culinary preferences are subjective, and the economy has coalesced around the financial, but that's always been the case
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That isn't something that's changed - that's HK's significance and has always been
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The culture is superficial if you stay in the primary areas, like LKF or Central - but that's the case in the downtown of any major city. I'd never recommend anyone stay on HK Island.
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To each their own. All good points. I enjoyed my time living there for several years (I had a visa + HK ID), but I did spend most of my time in that expat bubble (not necessarily by choice, but I lived in Central/Mid-levels so it kinda just happened that way) and on reflection that is what probably drove me away (high rents and asking the question "why I am here?").
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Certainly to each their own, but the statement that local food is greasy and lacks vegetarian options is just plain wrong. Perhaps the western concepts of what canto people eat. Most cantos stay away generally from things that are fried to avoid "็†ฑๆฐฃ"
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The vegetarian point strikes me as particularly wrong, given, again, the large Buddhist population. There are many vegetarian restaurant chains, and nearly all will accommodate you if you explain it to them.
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There's also plenty of healthy options. Most cantos, especially the older generation that avoids fast food eats extremely healthy - steamed fish, veggies, typically a clear soup to begin, etc and fruit for dinner.
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If that's not what you were eating, you were stuck in the gwai districts. (Nothing wrong with that, but it the perspective seems extremely odd the mark)
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There are a number of canto events / holidays that require vegetarian eating as well
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If you're vegan, maybe that's more difficult, I can't speak to that. But vegetarian, no problem
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Now living in HK? That's a different story. I'm from HK and wouldn't move back. I don't like big cities and right living quarters. When I'm there, I stay on the peak, which makes it tolerable, but I'm 20-30 mins from CDB down the peak road, so it's a bit of a pain. Once you're up, you're up- you don't have the driver take you back down. My plan is to move back to Taiwan.
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Thanks for that summary jppfodusqtnt I like Taiwan, but again I mostly stuck to Taipei. I found it a super easy city to move around in.
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Taipei is the most livable in Taiwan if you need cosmopolitan "creature comforts" and need to get in and out quickly. The weather in Taipei isn't great most of the year, though. Kaohsiung is better but more pollution. (Another reason why I avoid Asia semi-regularly) You can get to the other end of the island in 1.5 hours with the express, though, so even living in Tainan or Taichung is an option. I'd definitely own a car, though. You could even live in Hualien if you were more adventurous.
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Frankly, it sounds like your experience is colored by HKUST. I can't speak to that. I can just tell you as someone from Hong Kong, gohkohnkquahekm there are plenty of vegetarian options and your description of Cantonese food is just not accurate. Maybe the university food tends to be the fast food variety, since most college students eat like trash, but that just doesn't reflect society at large. I don't know why stuff doesn't come up on Google Maps other than HK, especially local places, don't play the same social media and mapping game like they do in the west. There are entire chains dedicated to vegetarian cuisine. As stated prior, a trick is to say you're Buddhist and most restaurants will accommodate. Regarding culture, I don't feel like I need to defend HK. It's there, but if you missed it you missed it. However, as a "citizen journalist," if you think Sai Kung is "HK Culture" I'd urge you to dig deeper. It seems like your experience in HK has been superficial, which in itself isn't a bad thing, but you're making specious proclamations, which isn't helpful in a group that's supposed to be about sharing knowledge to empower others in their travels. I'm more than happy to take you out and show you a different side of HK when I'm back in a month.
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Again, there is no reason to get into the weeds regarding culture. I offered to take you out when I'm there, and you can take that offer up or don't, that's completely up to you. The main thing I took issue with is your characterization of Cantonese food and the notion that there are no vegetarian options. Given how much of an international city Hong Kong is, it should obvious on its face that accusation has no basis. That's like saying Paris, New York, etc don't have vegetarian options. If what you say is true, you should open up a vegetarian restaurant and it'll go gangbusters, because there's obviously an unfulfilled demand.
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I'm not discounting your experience, but you also have to consider that HKUST isn't exactly in the middle of everything. Perhaps your experience would be better if you were more centrally located - but your criticism wasn't directed towards that specific area of HK that you're in, but rather HK as a whole. P.S. I believe you're about half an hour or so from Chi Lin, which is one of the better regarded vege dim sum places.
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I'm not being defensive of Hong Kong - anyone who knows me at any length is aware that I have plenty of issues with Hong Kong, and really don't feel the need to defend it. However, to the degree that someone would take your statement re food to heart when considering whether to visit or station themselves there for a bit, I felt it needed to be addressed.
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HK has awful foodโ€ฆ (not really, but I want a guided tour too)
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oh, and DFW has terrible everything
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I wonder if I insult the roads I can con him into picking me up at the airport..
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We're HK bound next week. All airport pickups and food recs welcome. Giving a presentation at HKAPA.
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tyttwceiss your very presence on earth is an insult to me, so I guess I'm obliged to give you a tour wherever I'm at!
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huzzah!
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Can there be cocktails? also, I only eat chicken mcnuggets
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After talking with a few students and professors involved with the protests while in HK, a friend recommended the 'Umbrellas Up' TAL episode - I recommend
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were you in front of the right building?
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I saw them post stuff on FB in the past couple of days ๐Ÿค”
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I don't know if they have any signs, but you just go into that door and then take the elevator at the end of the hallway
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iirc the elevator has their logo on one of the floor buttons
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but I haven't been in a wile so that might've changed ๐Ÿ˜ž
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maybe send them a message to check they are really open?
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qwsntnq Iโ€™m back in HK, again, you coming back anytime soon?
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any runners here right now that are interested in Peak loops?
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You have to think in three dimensions in HK... Literally nothing I was ever looking for was on the first floor it was always on some odd floor with minimal signage directing you to it. Look closely at the address in Google Maps as it will sometimes say "Located in X building" or in this case 18F Honest Building. There's also My Base in Causeway Bay.
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>https://www.businessinsider.com/hong-kong-billionaire-jack-ma-alibaba-the-peak-2018-4> - until 1947 Hong Kongers werenโ€™t allowed to live on the peak
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If you guys can make it up to the peak right now (walking is the only way) itโ€™s dead up here. Restaurants giving away stuff and b1g1 free everywhere
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(When I say peak, I mean the peak galleria, in case that wasnโ€™t clear)
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Today (13/11) webcast, demonstrators act.

More intense action will be taken from 9:00 tonight, and its tentative assembly locations are as follows:

Hong Kong Island:
1. International Finance Center ifc (Hong Kong Island North District Recommended Meeting Point)
2. Pacific Place
3. Shun Tak Centre
4. Westport City
5. Aberdeen Centre (Hong Kong Island Southern District Recommended Meeting Point)

West Kowloon
6. Yuanfang Shopping Mall (Kowloon District Suggested Meeting Point)
7. Langham Place (Kowloon District Recommended Meeting Point)
8. New Century Plaza
9. Festival Walk

East Kowloon
10. Amoy Plaza
11. Telford Mall (Kowloon District Recommended Meeting Point)
12. apm (Kowloon District Recommended Meeting Point)
13. Popcorn (Tseung Kwan O District Suggested Meeting Point)
14. Donggang City
15. New Capital City

New Territories South
16. Discovery Park (Tsuwan District Recommended Meeting Point)
17. Tsuen Wan Plaza
18. Bayview Plaza
19. Ruxin Square
20. Xin Xindi
21. Green Yangfang
22. New Town Plaza (Sha Tin District Recommended Meeting Point)
23. Sha Tin Plaza
24. Shatin Centre
25. Good Luck Center
26. Tsing Yi City (Island District Suggested Meeting Point)
27. Citygate City

New Territories North
28. Tai Po Super City (Tai Po District Recommended Meeting Point)
29. Mingdu Shopping Mall (Fanling District Suggested Meeting Point)
30. Sheung Shui Plaza (Shuishui District Recommended Meeting Point)
31. V city (ๅฑฏๅ…ƒๅคฉ suggested a meeting point)
32. Tuen Mun Town Plaza
33. Tianshui Square, Tianshui Square
34. Yuen Long Plaza

Hong Kong citizens are requested to leave the above locations to avoid any conflicts and safe places.
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Stay safe, guys
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itโ€™s starting to look more and more like itโ€™s not going to end well
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hopefully they donโ€™t do anything stupid near the airport as I have an overnight layover coming up in a month
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Definitely isnโ€™t going to end well. That line got crossed weeks ago
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They are going to try to cut the power tonight
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mmmmright
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too bad, I really like hong kong
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wow shit ๐Ÿ˜ž
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They plan on targeting gas stations tonight
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So stay away
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have a trip to HK coming up next week.. this will be interesting
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epght where are you getting your news from?
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Iโ€™m a Hong Konger
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Iโ€™m in HK
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ah okay
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I get it from dozens of sources, local contacts, my own eyes, scmp, hkfp, whatsapp groups, etc
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gosh
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I arrived tonight no taxi/bus didn't want to get into the center
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SCMP has been excellent in its coverage if you want something mainstream
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HKFP not bad, but canโ€™t keep up
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Btw that explosion vid is not confirmed. The bus is though
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The explosion seems like a movie set to me, so please take with grain of salt
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Not trying to spread fake news
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hello, I really really need a new laptop, and Apple just launched the 16" MBP, so Iโ€™m thinking about ordering one in Hong Kong and flying in for a day to pick it up
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but iโ€™m looking at some of the pick up locations, and people are setting Christmas trees on fire
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so none of these would be a safe place, and the Apple stores are probably all going to be closed?
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the earliest pick up date is the 28th, so Iโ€™ll wait for a week and see if things calm down. Otherwise I might go to Singapore, or just order online in Thailand and pay a bit more
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the Apple stores are closed
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ordering in thailand and then getting back the taxes when you leave the country might end up being cheaper than hk/sg
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If you need to get around, do it now - in about 30, things will start again
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<@ULZJHNQKS just arrived in #hong-kong #china
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Hey, Iโ€™m planning to go to Hong Kong for a week in 15th Dec. I know that the situation itโ€™s hard to predict, but so far, does anyone have an โ€œinsiderโ€™s opinionโ€, if itโ€™s still possible to enjoy the city somehow? Donโ€™t know but it seems that if you stay alert and informed about where and when protests are happening itโ€™s doable, maybe not easy regarding transportation. But Iโ€™m really not sure.
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<@U076WH87K just arrived in #hong-kong #china
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ggxfjuqkau depending on what you want to do, yes
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right now, the worst protests are in areas around the universities, a few places in the NT, etc
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and mostly during the weekend
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but itโ€™s different day to day, so I wouldnโ€™t hazard a guess as to what this looks like in December
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although I canโ€™t imagine this continues on for much longer
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nonms thanks for the answer. Yep, I guess Iโ€™ll wait a little bit more to decide. Hopefully it will get better, I also agree with what you said. In Brazil we had some protests against corruption not many time ago, but when it started to get bad like people destryoing public property and things like this, soon it ended, because people that were in favor before turned against and soon after the movement lost strenght. But it was a very different story and also brazilians are not good protesters, so not sure if it will be like this. I just hope that doesnโ€™t get worst otherwise Iโ€™m afraid that it can really get crazy there.
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But basically my plans would be to spend like a week there, mixing some work with some sightseeing since it will be my first time in the city, but I donโ€™t expect to see everything, so going where itโ€™s possible sounds good also. My only concern is if itโ€™s really get hard to get around the city like no public transportation that I heard itโ€™s (was) great, like Singapore.
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hftuaagtwj the worst of the MTR backups seems to be behind us - I think theyโ€™ve increased the security at accessible points considerably
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the MTR stations are closing early, and most of the changes in schedule are single stops being skipped
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but December 15th, I doubt this will be going on at all
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this canโ€™t go on forever
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Good to hear that at least this is better now. Thanks for all the info. Iโ€™m going to wait just a little bit more
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maybe I live in a bubble (Soho) but I haven't been disrupted a tiny bit by the protests
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(except maybe if I have a date it might end up earlier than usual because MTR closes earlier ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ˜… )
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vwaceguy great to hear that. Actually I already decided to book my trip, will be there for 5 days, in the last part of December. So letโ€™s see ๐Ÿ™
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<@U02S1B7AA just arrived in #hong-kong #china
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