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bhjvlb3mo
lol no! That's just my user handle :joy:
Had a great time, and oh, so many valuable tips for us rookies, still trying to wrap my head around it.

We'll probably see ya at Magneti before but definitely next weekend! (Although I think we missed the real action of the old city, at least now we know)
ucmfocwyot3mo
Yeah let's definitely check it out, it looked super lively as we were walking home
wdntwaghrg2mo
Cool cool cool totally getting frustrated with the internet here ๐Ÿ˜…
ficvie2mo
At Magneti? It was pretty stable for me last week!
jfvojdo2mo
my only italy experience is southern italy, but it seemed really important to ask ahead for people to run speed tests
nbneasb2mo
so much of naples and palermo have home internet on bad 4g lines
pskurx2mo
Yeah, our previous Airbnb had a 4 Mbps downstream and upload was non-existent (needless to say, it was also impossible to access any mobile network)
Now in Palermo we get ~70/70 Mbps which is more than enough. Magneti has great speeds too
lxisr2mo
openfiber.it/en/br />Open Fiber is connecting almost all Italy, they started more than one year ago and "one day" all the country will be connected, I saw them also in my little village. I'm keeping strong with my 7 Mbit/s and tethering with Vodafone/Iliad when it's not enough :muscle:
The best thing you can do if staying anywhere in this country for more than a couple of weeks is to buy a Iliad sim card and use those 50 GB of traffic.
jmwvzhp2mo
i messaged a collection of hosts when booking, 6 replied with actual internet info
xbhembo2mo
4 of those were like 5/1 or worse 4g connections
qwnpdzl2mo
2 were fiber
hotwek2mo
I guess I just got lucky this time
dbquexa2mo
We got a new gas tank like less than two weeks ago and it seems this one is already out .. is that reasonable possible in terms of depleting a tank for a couple people cooking/hot water/light heating (our place is drafty and freezing lately haha) or is there something possibly wrong?
qmmuwpc2mo
Going to message our host in the morning, was just curious at the moment
eozhca2mo
At the previous place we stayed, outside of the city, the gas ran out after 3 weeks, but not sure if it was full or not to begin with. They sometimes use dual 10L tanks so you may be able to check if there are two and if so, switch them (that's what we had to do)
vjeosz2mo
Otherwise, now in the city it seems like it's unlimited
nzcgt2mo
How big? 10/15 kg?
In Palermo the host left me a little tank (10) less than a half empty, only for cooking, telling me to ask her for a replacement at the end... but when I changed flat after three weeks there still was gas.
I ate almost always at home, but for heating and hot water it's easy to finish them, it's not impossible that you finished one in two weeks.
ytjord2mo
So... we went to Magneti today, arrived at ~12:30. It was almost empty so we figured everyone just went to lunch or something, but needless to say, 5 minutes later they closed for the day. Really weird, as they should be open till 8pm on Friday.
hnqupg2mo
Got to spend an hour walking in the rain instead ๐Ÿ˜…
plmmhe2mo
So with that behind us, anyone up for a drink tonight?
suluioo2mo
it's a holiday here today
epsxrze2mo
"festa de santa lucia" i think? i didn't google why but heard something about how many sicilians can't/don't eat pasta or bread today so it's unofficially "arancini day" (if you see a ke palle they are fucking swarmed)
fkirwx2mo
Oh man..that explains a lot, I did see tons of ppl in line for cake/arancine or whatever
lbiduh2mo
And of course why the cowork place was closing so early
spgzltg2mo
the fun part about traveling ๐Ÿ˜‚
nhmxivu2mo
this keeps happening to me lately but usually with the gym wherever i am
mldwajf2mo
i get all psyched up to go work out then when i get there it's closed
drermkxkkbltkwrk2mo
Oh is that why all the bakeries had like pudding stuff instead of cakes?
ceckqjimpjuxqpou2mo
"Palermoย too pays homage to Santa Lucia in memory of one of her miracles. In 1646, the wheat harvest failed and Sicily was gripped by a terrible famine. All seemed lost until, on Santa Luciaโ€™s day, a ship carrying wheat finally docked at the port of Palermo. The starving population were handed rations of grain, but, too hungry to waste time transforming the grain into flour, they cooked it whole. A new tradition was born and every year on 13thย December,ย _Palermitani_ย renounce all flour-based food (pasta, bread, biscuits and cakes) and eat only rice-based dishes or traditional specialities, such asย _cuccia_, made from whole wheat grain. All in all a good excuse for indulging inย _arancine_ย andย _risotto_!"
ovdqopqmjloglrmb2mo
Well that explains it
zbauxyuwvvipmwzb2mo
kiztwln Also are you sure they were closed for the day? A lot of businesses will full on close for lunch for 2 hours and then open up again at like 2:30-3:30
pfsdnjnqdgcsccxp2mo
It's rather maddening
yeflal2mo
Hmm...idk actually. From my broken Italian, I understood that they were closed for the rest of the day
gkcxaj2mo
It was literally 5 minutes after we started working heh
ymmhzefnwc2mo
The arancini at Cappello's was ๐Ÿ˜
vfrhgtjdml2mo
Also I hope you all don't blow away today
hyefbzgxdi2mo
we've just barricaded ourselves in our apartment
krzzpvqfkn2mo
It sounds like we're on an old wooden ship ๐Ÿ˜‚
zkqzsb2mo
oh definitely, barricaded now. Sounds like the whole neighbourhood is falling apart for the past few hours
milqmn2mo
check out the arancine at Dainotti's in the capo market, they also have a couple other specialties (panelle/crocche) which were really good
cricqrpciboqerfyx2mo
mhggqmwjkpvrooxowp just arrived in Sassari, #italy
oxjjqvr2mo
Lol the Catania prioritypass lounge is so sad
ijehw2mo
The first thing which comes to my mind when I think to Catania :joy:
sqvxtscwthpangob2mo
Honestly if the city cared about dog poo Palermo would go from 6/10 to a 8/10 for me.
pehnnwdlka2mo
Lol, I don't remember dog poo being a main issue
jxyromd2mo
yeah don't remember dog poop being a problem either
rdepaem2mo
trash mostly not being picked up (and thus then torn open by animals and blown all over the place, organic waste included) was though haha
wgeery2mo
It's the circle of life - maybe a bunch of stray dogs are raiding town nightly and eating the trash (and then spreading the joy on the sidewalk)
xovhux2mo
But seriously though Palermo was really awesome. Personally the dog poo didn't seem _that_ bad. Now in Naples and the trash problem seems to be exactly the same. In Palermo the Airbnbs are much much cheaper, and also much bigger, when comparing to Naples (at least from what I could find)
rkggwiu2mo
yeah the trash thing didn't impact my love of southern italy at all, to be clear
kxurb2mo
At my first impact what all that poo I thought very bad of the city and its inhabitants, but as soon as I noticed how easy is to find trash on the street and stray dogs/cats it was clear that in part the problem was due to that. At least compared to other stray dogs in other big cities these look happy and well nourished...
this dog for instance was clearly a "dog of everyone", and guys were playing with it in the square in front of the cathedral. One of my favourite images of Palermo.
poeurvt2mo
just was commenting i noticed that all over the streets and not poop
wfqls2mo
About cats:
kyscsipdvy2mo
ognecddffnqxosughx bruh why you leaving Milan so early?! Back to UK?
ijwycpvunofcnxsn2mo
(regarding palermo) It's most likely the issue is worse for us because I believe we are in an area with more dog owners because it is a richer area, there is a distinct lack of green spaces so that also makes it a bit worse. Everything is also possibly made worse because we were in Japan last month, so it is a pretty stark contrast and we are probably noticing things we wouldn't otherwise notice.

It's a good place if you want good food and cheap accommodation for a month or two but want to stay in the Europe region.
racbsv2mo
byzzamuflghooouhc - In terms of green spaces - I think the English Garden is not far from your place. And if you feel you need a quick getaway, you can take the train (the one that goes to the airport) from the Lolli station (unless there's a closer one) and hop off at Sferracavallo, a nice little fisherman village which is about 20-30 minutes away and feels much different
bjspia2mo
Just don't expect the trash situation to look any different there ๐Ÿ˜‰
trlftkfjrlsugkhtw2mo
fnofhalotzy I'm actually going back to sardinia before leaving to UK on the 11th. I just took an apartment in navigli just for the new years!!
bwaxtqxclf2mo
Happy New Year everyone! Palermo celebrates with loud bangs ๐Ÿงจboom
tfrxue2mo
Crazy stuff, same noise levels in Naples! ๐ŸŽ†
deaojyxywytcxlgb2mo
Wish I would of Google it first. Loud noises to scare away bad spirits and also give me a heart attack.
gmuivgupkd1mo
Anyone in Milan?
ixmhirkhot1mo
Apparently no one is in Milan ๐Ÿ˜… It's been a slice ๐Ÿ• Italy! Ciao in the morning!
jvchfklducr1mo
How's the air quality? I think I read somewhere else it was surprisingly bad this week.
kanzycghzcb1mo
I'm heading to Naples but not until April
inqzc1mo
In the north is bad, Pianura Padana in primis. For the rest in Italia is not bad, in my region at least it's very good (Marche).
About Napoli I don't know, I'm going to be there from 8th to 15th of March.
umxdjztnbwtw1mo
There is a good app called AirVisual to keep up to date on it
vcbcjzjuetps1mo
Naples looks pretty good for air quality right now
mmrlarvssrgh1mo
Milan, and the north sometimes gets hit pretty hard because of the Alps
zznxc1mo
I cannot remember a so dry winter, and no windy. It's not only about pollution in air, also some cultivations will suffer a lot this year.
wlkmbqqd1mo
Hey everyone, I'm considering Sardinia or Sicily for February, is a good month to go? Which would you recommend best and why?
dmzqp1mo
Sicilia, I've been there in February past year and if it's cold you don't need heater because it's not really cold, if it's good weather you could also go to the beach. About history, food and places to visit it's more a country than a region, in my top five Italian regions.

Sardegna is better in June/September (avoid July and August, too many people).
scjxck1mo
Just been around Sicily for two months, it's really, really recommended. February might be a little rainy, but it doesn't ever get too cold (relatively to Europe..)

If you need any specific recommendations just lmk
wffzb28d
Anyone in Palermo?
wehocwqnsygvolmr28d
We were there for 2 months, we just left mid January.
hnvnd27d
Thats a shame. Any lessons learned? Something I should not miss?
gszfxc27d
btqlxa - We spent ~two months there too (and had a chance to meet Jonathan and Carolina!)

The 3 markets downtown are quite special, and there are many food stands you can try with great food or otherwise just buy fresh produce. (Jolly in Vucciria was amazing. I can also recommend on a food tour guide who's been fantastic)

There's a nice and free coworking space (Magneti) which is pretty nice, otherwise I didn't see too many laptops in cafes or other public areas.
Just walking around the old town is pretty cool. Restaurants are quite good, but I would generally avoid tourist traps on Maqueda or Vittorio Emanuelle. Cappello is a great cafe/bakery, and Cafe Stagnitta is roasting coffee if you need fresh supply for your apartment ;)

If you're looking for things to do out of town, I can also recommend a couple of places but you'll probably need a car.

Tons of cool architecture, cathedrals and the likes but I didn't dig too much in that area
qdgkldtqqphybjcv27d
yexirl forgive if you know this already, but with Italian coffee culture you can walk into a coffee bar order a macchiato or espresso and then pay the cashier should be 1-2 euro and take under 5 minutes.
siqtbciyriewufuh27d
There are some cathedrals with gold ceilings that are impressive, check out Monreale where the biggest one is. Town is rather quaint but you will need to take a bus to get there which is around 45 minutes to an hour depending on where you are at. Arancine is a good cheap street food option for something quick.
rjzcu27d
Thx for the tips! I did not know about that coworking space. Looks nice
rdpos27d
Yeah, I have heard about this culture thing. But did not try yet ๐Ÿ™‚
fktnx27d
Thx for the tips. I have already tried the arancine. It was good. I was quite surprised by its weight when I took it for the first time ๐Ÿ™‚
bbaqf27d
I've never seen it as a culture thing to walk in a bar, get a coffee and go out, cool ๐Ÿ˜‚
hichr27d
nqzopz don't forget to try also panino with frittola, the one with stigghiola and the most famous one with meusa (milza). Of course don't check before and don't ask what it it ๐Ÿ‘
fhyap27d
And if you decide to rent a car, I suggest you CarMotion, close to the port. Get a small car (Ypsilon, or 500) with full coverage. With the car you could visit nice places not very far but difficult to visit with public transportation (Caccamo, Segesta, Erice), but don't do the mistake of getting it with normal insurance because the probabilities to return it as you got it are very close to zero.

By train you should absolutely go to Valley of temples in Agrigento, and from there maybe with a car you could visit also Scala dei turchi and Selinunte.
inunc27d
I definitely dont feel like driving here ๐Ÿ˜„
crfsk27d
That's the real Palermo experience driving on Friday and on Sunday around 18:00-19:00 and to look for a parking place :+1:
(outside Palermo to drive in Sicilia is a normal thing, just in Palermo it's a total chaos)
altkmoohlgt27d
I wasn't extremely impressed with the architecture while I was there, but now when I look at my photo album from Palermo, the pictures are all gorgeous! The colors pop
rqtnfqa25d
Just saying ๐Ÿ‘‹ ! I'll be in Italy for the month of Feb. Rome > Milan > Florence > Bologna > Venice
vpnnqugjlfwnjsnw25d
dkyqmb other counties don't have coffee bars. IT is a very Italian thing.
yjlfw25d
Of course of course, I was just saying that I've been going to the same bar in my village since the primary school, and in all villages there is always one at least, so for me it's hard to find a thing more obvious. I don't even notice it, it's like breathing ๐Ÿ™‚
lymop25d
In February there is this in Roma, and I'm going
ytpwajo25d
That's a bit over my head . (I'm a designer) Ill be in Milan for the largest Interaction Design conference in the world - it's a great one.
rhbpwxfzxwf9d
Anybody out in Torino? Will be there for the next month and would love to meet up with other nomads โ˜•๏ธ ๐Ÿป
qjowuxowm7d
ebbjxezcod just arrived in Rome, #italy
avpugbbgiwp5d
Anyone been to Catania recently?
hfsbpjiomhl5d
Who are some good Milan-area lawyers (for an American) to speak with about things like resident permits, long-stay/Schengen visas, and small business / freelancer status formation? Thanks!
hdwxcwmi2d
hello, has someone rented a car in Italy without having an international driver permit?
xdurhzrenr2d
i have not, but from what i hear from other Americans (assuming youโ€™re American) who rented in Italy โ€” the international drivers permit is something they donโ€™t ask for. youโ€™re supposed to have it on hand in case of an accident or something like that. but itโ€™s not required to actually rent the car
lmxgg2d
www.patenteonline.it/infopatenti/patenti-e-estero/stranieri-in-italia?pageID=132br />"Gli stranieri con patente extra-UE possono circolare in Italia per il tempo massimo di 1 anno. La patente deve perรฒ essere accompagnata da unย permesso internazionale di guidaย o unaย traduzione giurata della patenteย stessa."

In theory you need the international driving license (what model I don't know, but I guess the model of 1949, valid one year), or a "certified translation". It's also true that in Italia usually policemen and carabinieri are not too strict and I doubt they would ask it. Only thing check that the insurance will cover you also in case of missing documentation.
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