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Iโ€™ve routinely pre-covid spent a day in tokyo just for fun on long layovers
Go see the fish market before they replace it with that new monstrosity
I'd love too! Last time I went I arrived too late. The thing is during these times would I even be allowed to leave the airport to do that?
Iโ€™m at Haneda on a long layover right now. Weโ€™ll have to wait until Japan opens up for tourism again, I think. I also have spent the day in Tokyo in the โ€œbefore timesโ€ on a long layover, highly recommend it and hope to do it again soon.
> The thing is during these times would I even be allowed to leave the airport to do that?
You wonโ€™t pass immigration without a proper visa, paperwork, or reason to enter in the country.
Not sure the process in Japan atm, but in most countries you wonโ€™t even reach the immigration stage, theyโ€™ll turn you down before
Anyone aware of the method to enter Japan thru Singapore? I was researching a few weeks ago that entry thru SG on wisa waiver was/is possible even if directly from your passport country was not.
It's only open for short-term business visa holders. No tourists dsesgn
Yea, the flight I'm looking at is unique in that it flies into Narita in the afternoon and says you have to pass through customs and change airports to fly out of Haneda the next day. I'm guessing I won't be privately escorted on my way from Narita to Hanea but who knows. If I am left to go on my own I will of course check something out on the way!
If transit is allowed from airport to airport, then thatโ€™d be great! I do think they might actually escort you though? I would be interested in what your experience is. You also may need to arrange for a transit visa from your relevant embassy? It looks like most countries are still prohibited entry, and you need special permission to get through immigration.

I apparently still canโ€™t post links, but the Japanese Foreign Ministry has a page called โ€œBorder enforcement measures to prevent the spread of novel coronavirus (COVID-19)โ€ that might be useful to you.
IATA is supposed to be the gold standard for airline/travel guidance right? I filled their form out as an American citizen, having spent the last two weeks in Singapore, traveling to Japan for tourism, and IATA seems to think that it would work. rvisvn UR6P454LRbr />
Canโ€™t post a link but itโ€™s iatatravelcentre . com
hsdlpiidbzi USA is absent from the list of visa waiver suspensions, which confirms my hunch that it's possible to enter as a tourist. please let us know! I also see that those with APEC business travel card issued in USA are also allowed to enter, if they enter from an allowed territory.
qrqmxo are you in Korea? The same workaround applies if youโ€™re a US citizen entering in from SK as from Singapore - you should give it a try and report back ๐Ÿ™‚
ultimately it depends on the immigration officer so never risk free
Yes.. oh I should check the updated regulations. My plan was to go to SG first since I thought Korea was still banned :)
I dont think Korea is banned anymore, canโ€™t post links here because Iโ€™m new but looking at a list now.
Oh wow that's right if the iata site is to be believed
Yessss. Please for the love of god try it.
there's a lot of conflicting info on the MOFA site, maybe they haven't updated it. I'm sure someone would be talking about if it was that easy. Or maybe it's a secret ๐Ÿคฃ
i just genuinely donโ€™t think anyone has tested it. I read about a guy (US citizen) who spent 2 weeks in international waters (not on the banned list, obvi) on a boat and sailed into Japan successfully.
completely insane but validates the theory
haha love it!
yeah lol Iโ€™m not that desperate. but IATA seems to agree
so someone really just needs to give it a go
he must have really missed his family
Or be a baller. 2 weeks at sea ain't easy.
reading his story and I think itโ€™s a bit of both.
Travel for tourism and most other short-term purposes is still not permitted, and there is no indication that this will change in the short term. Visa-free travel is suspended.
qgbhxu this is annoying bc I canโ€™t use links
but the ministry of foreign affairs for japan says that the united states, canada, and like 5 other countries still have visa free travel to Japan
it was never suspended. the link you posted is incorrect, as crazy as it sounds.
all of the guidance around this issue has been worded as confusingly as possible on purpose. if you actually read the rules youโ€™ll see that visa free travel from the US was not suspended, you just canโ€™t enter Japan directly from the US. You have to go through one of the countries not on the banned list, like Singapore or South Korea. A citizen of Singapore canโ€™t fly from Singapore to Japan because their visa free entry IS suspended, but a US Citizen can.
^ I was looking for a `wtf` emoji but canโ€™t find it. The Wikipedia seems to say the same but the links provided are pointing nowhere where says that. Still:
```Holders of passports issued by the following 66 countries or regions are usually visa-exempt for visits up to 901 days (unless otherwise noted) but as of November 2020, all except 7 countries (noted below) have been temporarily suspended and require visas```
Canada, Chile, North Macedonia, Mauritius, Serbia, Turkey, and US passport holders are supposedly not suspended.
To update my earlier post, I was able to speak with a representative from Japan Air she she said I could not use the ticket that changes airports on the layover. It said nothing about this on the website but she said if I bought the ticket it would be invalid since I am not from Japan I wouldn't be able to leave the airport.
This sounds like an exciting loophole to visit Japan! I'm heading to Thailand next week with a stop over in Japan but they told me I couldn't leave the airport so I chose a quick one. I'm coming from the US with a US passport and am fully Vaxed (with a new booster even). I would be interested in trying this from Thailand via Singapore with a cheap Air Asia flight of somekind. So has anyone sucessfully done this?
lziqlcetdoaarwzd yeah you wonโ€™t be able to do it on a layover or coming from the US. You could definitely try it from Singapore though, but youโ€™ll have to spend a number of days/weeks there since Thailand is still on the banned list. So like Thailand > Singapore for 2 weeks > Japan. US passport should be good to go. Idk if anyone has tried it yet.
Sounds too good to be true but definitely worth a shot if you're really itching for Japan
Thatโ€™s too bad! I definitely recommend doing transfers like this in the future though, itโ€™s a great experience!
๐Ÿ›ฌ jlerjglukkv just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Sapporo, #japan
๐Ÿ›ฌ eluzzobycah just arrived in Aichi, #japan
Huh. Just reading this USA-by-way-of-SG/SK thing. Fascinating. Has anyone here done it?
๐Ÿ›ฌ wnckldwprvz just arrived in โ›ฉ Osaka, #japan
Well shit
I have a flight into Singapore (from Thailand) in a little over 2 weeks too. I was going to see if I could enter, guess that's out now.
I had high hopes for Kishida-san but alas ๐Ÿ˜‘
If you were planning to use the Singapore > Japan loophole then that shouldnโ€™t have changed. It should be just as valid as before, still untested though.
Really? It seems to pretty clearly only allow citizens and residents.
yeah they updated it yesterday and then again today, so i think the loophole is out now.
for a month. might be back on the table in January
Hi I'm heading to Docomo shop tomorrow to get a contract. I'm going to be here for 2 years at least so thought I'd go for a main provider and then maybe switch it to payg after that for when I'm not in Japan. I have an unlocked phone from the UK. Does anyone know what their SIM only (data and inclusive voice calls) are? Japanese mobile operators can be awkward when asking about not using their own "special" phones
I'm tempted by the MVNO operators like Mobal/Sakura which have no contract and decent rates for data but none seem to have inclusive minutes. 22 yen for 30 seconds can add up when on hold, etc
Just in case anyone else reads this, I have found the best deal (for me) at Docomo directly. Here's what I found:
โ€ข Getting a Japanese mobile phone got a whole lot easier this year.
โ€ข When buying a phone in Japan, the device and the plan isn't bundled together any more.
โ€ข Mobile phone providers aren't allowed to lock phones to their network (or must provide ability to unlock)
โ€ข (I didn't, but if you need a device, you'll have a 2 year contract but you can pay it off whenever you like)
โ€ข You choose the plan separately from the device and there is no contract any more. The plan is immediately on a 30 day rolling period with no tie-in whatsoever
โ€ข Docomo has two main plans
โ—ฆ "5G" plan where you are billed for the amount of data you use in stages - so no need to decide up front how much data you need per month
โ—ฆ Ahamo - this is what I went for.
Ahamo is online only (you can't get it in-store) has:
โ€ข No setup fees
โ€ข You'll need an unlocked phone. Docomo won't make any guarantees of it working with your device but almost all new phones are fine.
โ€ข No contact
โ€ข 20GB per month for ~ 2900 Yen / month including tax
โ€ข On top of that you can optionally pay either:
โ—ฆ 550 Yen/month for the first 5 mins of any call to be free
โ—ฆ 1300 Yen/month for unlimited voice calls
An all-round good deal in my view
Povo 2.0 is better.
For anyone reading, Povo 2.0 seems to be an MVNO that uses Au's networks. Au's signal is no good in my area so I either wanted Docomo or an MVNO that uses Docomo.
Japan-Wireless (another MVNO) uses Docomo but you do not get a proper Japanese phone number, you get an 050 (IP phone) number instead which isn't accepted by banks, etc.
Sakura Mobile also uses Docomo and apparently, you do get a proper phone number.
But none of those MVMOs have "kaketai hodai" i.e. all you can eat phone calls.
Do your own research, just wanted to share my own experience
๐Ÿ›ฌ yllcphdndjs just arrived in ๐Ÿ—ผ Tokyo, #japan
I read an article on insidekyoto today that says there is a 70% chance of Japan opening up in March
That seems pretty optimistic, cases here are going back up. I wonder where they pulled that number from
The pandemic isn't over, but it's not the pandemic it was anymore, this year countries will have to start opening up again eventually
Also I'm not 100% trusting of the estimates of Japan opening up for tourism from a dude trying to sell tours heh
Iโ€™m planning on going in August so itโ€™s a safe bet itโ€™ll be back open by then
Honestly, knowing a bit how the Japanese government operates, if thereโ€™s some opening phase, it wonโ€™t be for tourists but for other types of visas, like business and students, with x1000 paperwork
Even 8 months from now? I canโ€™t imagine itโ€™ll still be locked down. Iโ€™ll head to Asia anyway (maybe Korea) but was hoping to stop in Tokyo first. I heard itโ€™s beautiful in the fall
Agree with pavnkxypzozxtw highly doubt they'll be open any time soon
First japan has to let in people who already have issued visas. foreign exchange students, people with newly issued work visas etc. then maybe after 2-4 months of that they will start letting in some tourists
i think japan opens may/june fwiw
march for people with work visas
So my current plan is Japan in August since I heard itโ€™s beautiful in the fall, but it sounds like Japan will be pretty strict with openings. Any other recommendations then on where to start with my Asia/SE Asia trip (<@U032568UB>, nmxcuoegvv ULDN8DBAL)? Thereโ€™s still a lot of time until August so I can play it by ear
Will depend how much youโ€™d like to deal with quarantines, and your vax status. Lots of places are โ€œopenโ€ if you do the 7-10-14 quarantine Come to mind Thailand, Singapore, Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Maldives, and Indonesia.
I wouldn't plan or book anything until shortly before taking the trip because there are so many factors involved that can change
Most everything is closed right now or has long quarantine requirements. I don't know that SE Asia is really plausible at the moment. I'd recommend south America as everything is still relatively open there and the price is low
Thailand is doable with sandbox or quarantine schemes (more time + more money). Headed there in a few weeks myself. I opted for 7 day quarantine. Itโ€™s only worth it if youโ€™re going to stay for months
Mexico is good too
Can you tell us more about yourself? what are you priotizing? City life? nature? being surrounded by locals or other nomads?
Right now I am in singapore. it is expensive, but its very stable and restrictions arenโ€™t too bad. can easily travel from here to other countries. so far no quarantine, just need to do some tests everyday for first week youโ€™re here.
Japan in Aug is a very got time of year to visit, I've been in Tokyo in AUG and I was thinking ok next time any month but AUG.
I've also been hoping to get to revsit Japan this Spring (Currently in Thailand). I just saw that they just changed the rules 14 day QT for anyone coming from Thailand ,if you could even get ibn in the frst place. I'm giving up any hope on getting back to Japan for now.
I remember last year in January, when the prevailing narrative was that things would open by summer. Since then I learnt to keep expectations low.
Oh yeah. I made it in 2 hours before they closed the borders, left later in June and expected to be back by October 2020.. ๐Ÿ˜‚
Hey folks. How are the restrictions and digital nomad community like in Japan now? I am looking to hopefully visit this year as well, hopefully April.
Very light touch restrictions throughout the pandemic from what I've heard from my friends there and the government has been saying they wills start to treat omicron like a cold
I haven't met too many DNs myself there but there was a large expat community when I lived there 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing ๐Ÿ™‚
Osaka has a small community but not any co-working spaces. I think Tokyo is growing in terms of DN and Osaka will as well in the future.

Highly worth the visit though, I love working and living there.
I like Osakan Space as a coworking space. Nice people, and cheap as far as coworking spaces go.
As far as the government taking omicron lightly, I think that is mostly DNs living with their head in the clouds. Our daughter's school told us that unless we are essential employees and can make no other arrangements at all that we should keep her home for the next month.
๐Ÿ›ฌ qcjqmmjmstlsoket just arrived in ๐Ÿ—ผ Tokyo, #japan
rwxkfcwolk Are you able to receive Japanese Yen with a Wise (_TransferWise_) account? I don't see the external account details for my client to send money to
thanks for sharing ngahphbgptkpcnpvj
Wise (TransferWise) only allows 1 million ยฅ in the Japanese balance! That's like C$11k! That seems like a huge limitation. Does anyone have tips to avoid this? Wise recommends pulling from a non-Wise account as a work-around
ijfejeysjjq So when you hit the cap you can't add any more money, like the funding is blocked?
It seems like a Japanese money laundering rule
> You can send up to 1 million JPY per transfer. This does not restrict the number of transfers you can make.
And a holding balance limit of 1 million JPY
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