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markooo 15d
Japanese are pretty tolerant, understanding and have different standards for foreigners
jcavazos 15d
It's the recency of the mask thing that throws a wrench into most comparisons. There are a lot of countries and societies that have long-established cultural norms that you should abide if you want to be a guest in their country. And if you're not comfortable with those norms, just don't go. There is a different universe where everyone in Japan has been universally masking at all times for hundreds of years, and in that universe you'd be a jerk if you went and didn't wear a mask. But even though some people occasionally wore masks when they were sick pre-COVID, the universal expectation of masking is only three years old, and it seems to be on the way out (slowly).

In light of that, I think it's reasonable for foreigners to visit the country and follow their own cultural standards around masks and lean on the grace/understanding of the Japanese people for a while.
> Impact Hub sounds really cool, but youโ€™re supposed to attend one of their Open House events before you can apply for membership. Iโ€™ve got in touch about this, but not heard back after a few days.
Hadnโ€™t seen that. I was just going to show up and talk to them. Curious how BLINK went ๐Ÿ˜„
driesbos 14d
Mind share how you found good accomodation?
๐Ÿ›ฌ tfiyzxzlgauqt just arrived in ๐Ÿ—ผ Tokyo, #japan
calumb 14d
๐Ÿ›ฌ zkdnkheg just arrived in ๐Ÿ—ผ Tokyo, #japan
sirdaniel 14d
Ah yes.. bunch of Western dudes debating Asian stuff ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
kamaha 14d
i booked via Metro Residences
melodigs 14d
Iโ€™ll be in Kyoto April-May if anyone wants to meetup! I may pop over to Tokyo as well in May
๐Ÿ›ฌ lpdetduwjezfi just arrived in โ›ฉ Osaka, #japan
Metro residences for me as well
And Metro residences for me too. Haha.

So far (after 2 days in the place) I think it was a good choice.
Hi, everyone. Have any of you all been to to the Ogasawara or Ryukyu Islands? Thoughts?
How was the process U04FKK76KMH?
๐Ÿ›ฌ ivbrkedwadtke just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Kyoto, #japan
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krnzio 11d
๐Ÿ›ฌ pnwkqtwh just arrived in ๐Ÿ—ผ Tokyo, #japan
Really simple for me.

Step 1 Select property (My one didn't have a virtual tour, only photos. I decided this was riskier, but it seems to work out fine).
Step 2 Simple online checkout process
Step 3 Some simple verification checks (answer questions, passport upload)
Step 4 A couple of weeks before receive details of check-in process (mine was all self-checkin).
Sorry I meant checkin. I already booked last month :)
Ah OK! For check-in they left my key in a postbox that can be opened using a combination code.

I received the code via email. They asked me to send them an email once I had access to the apartment.
Awesome! Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚
sirdaniel 11d
for those that have recently arrived, are you doing the Visit Japan Web QR code? What's entry like? I did the QR in Dec and it took even longer than normal entry it seemed. Was a bit of a mess.
dashbell 11d
went in December, the QR system seemed to work for everyone but me and like 10 other people on the flight when I arrived, the app just loaded infinitely, dunno why. they made me fill out a condensed version of the same thing on paper and let me through, not a terrible experience by any means.
kamaha 10d
got very generic knowledge from podcasts, then googled โ€žareas to live in tokyoโ€ to have better context (busy vs residential etc) and also checked hoodmaps. for me it was mandatory to live in a quiet area, close to a park / river & gym + well connected with coworkings
Had that issue as well Lucy! I donโ€™t speak Japanese so I decided to stay near Roppongi where there are more expats. I also needed to be central because goldโ€™s gym is pretty much the only gym option and theyโ€™re mostly near the center.
I used it in December and January at Haneda. It was quick. Staff was waiting just after getting off the plane to check my website status. Starting January, the webpage no longer has a QR for the health check. The staff looks at the blue webpage and hand you an pink paper that notifies staff downstream that you're cleared. Just keep it in hand while you walk to passport check. It was quick to get the pink paper if you have a screenshot before you arrive. Connecting to wifi and logging in was about a minute longer.
amir 10d
Entered yesterday while passing thru on a layover. Was a breeze. Too easy.
I have some friends in Tokyo. I asked them for advice and (even after that) I struggled to figure out where to stay.

In the end I used criteria very specific to my needs (easy to reach my friends, easy to access a climbing wall, easy to access Shibuya and Shinjuku).

It sounds like Carl's approach might be a sensible one. From what I hear Roppongi is by far the easiest for foreigners to get around in. (But it is probably worth noting that it is also the area where you're most likely to get scammed - it's very unlikely to happen outside Roppongi :man-shrugging:)
I entered about a week ago and it was similarly fast. It looks like they don't scan the QR codes anymore. But it's worth taking a screenshot before your flight just in case you do need it and the app is loading slowly.
In the end I found out about the Google for Startups Campus. I'm just checking it out now and it seems pretty good.

One of the main benefits is that it's free. One caveat though is that it's only for startups and you need to apply for membership.
sirdaniel 10d
Cool, thanks for the info guys!
etdev2 10d
Nakameguro, Ebisu, Shimokitazawa, Koenji, Kichijoji, Jiyugaoka, Daikanyama
Did you end up checking out blink?
calumb 9d
๐Ÿ›ฌ mdwkzosm just arrived in Kanazawa Shi, #japan
I did. It seemed pretty nice and the staff were really friendly and welcoming. It was relatively quiet when I visited and they have a couple of phone booths you can take calls from.

They organise some events, but they didn't sound super relevant for me.

In the end, I decided it wasn't for me because of it's location (I'm not too near Roppongi and it's a bit of a walk from the station). However if you're staying in Roppongi, then it's probably a great option.
Thanks U04FKK76KMH!
calumb 8d
๐Ÿ›ฌ pmvlcpla just arrived in Shirakawa Mura, #japan
calumb 7d
๐Ÿ›ฌ aoikqruv just arrived in Takayama Shi, #japan
By the way, thanks for the tip. I've ended up at Google Campus because of your response!
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jrejaud 5d
Just landed in Osaka a few days ago. Not enough workers, so customers/ immigration queues are really long, the Covid queue was much faster. My phone was dead so I used the laptop they had to get a Visit Japan QR code (I didnโ€™t do it before my flight), then they looked over that and they glanced neg test result paper for 2 seconds and push you forward to the next queue.
jrejaud 5d
Any nomad bros in Osaka want to meet up and play board games? I know a lovely board game bar near Namba run by a ๅค–ไบบ with shelves upon shelves.
the hearth is a great place
jrejaud 5d
Thatโ€™s the place I was talking about haha
i know, itโ€™s the only place that fits the description, heh
How do you guys deal with a timezone difference? I have to align with European hours and it will make me finish my work around 2am ๐Ÿคฏ Are people staying that long in coworking spaces? Did anyone had/have that problem?
sascha 5d
Asynchronous communication. Being Self employed. Work less hours.
Probably many with the problem ๐Ÿ˜‚ but itโ€™s your choice working for this timezone in your current timezone though
sascha 5d
Maybe ๐Ÿ˜„ But I just arrive 7th February
kamaha 5d
is there a way for you to negotiate hours? i will be working from japan with US & European timezone, but will agree to overlap 2-3h only. My plan is to do asynch work in the morning (focus time) and then at 10-11pm overlap with the team (only for crucial meetings)
hrzmgrxa I didnโ€™t bring this topic yet after my fail when I was in US timezone (meetings ~3-5am) It was really messing up with my sleeping schedule + when they needed some urgent stuff to fix/reply I was sleepingโ€ฆ As a result I was waking up to the information that my tickets were reassigned. So Iโ€™m more careful with this nowadays
dactrtr 4d
for me its working in the mornings and the nights, like 7-11 ish, and then from 21-23 ish, but also asynchronous communication and work less heheheh
This is why I'm just taking a vacay to come to Japan precisely.
jrejaud 4d
gfzirodheiemdjpcb You down to go there some time this week? I think they are closed on Wednesday but Iโ€™m near namba eki so I can go most days of the week.
jrejaud 4d
Easier than a Business manager Visa is an Entrepeneur Visa or a Wealth Visa. Entrepeneur Visa requires a (Japanese) business plan but requires no capital, just monthly โ€œreportsโ€, 6 months, can be renewed for another 6 months (then with an expectation to upgrade to a Business Manager visa if you can actually launch your business). Wealth visa is more straight forward, it requires proof of at least 30 million yen of worth (so like 230k US, I think?), doesnโ€™t cost anything, but you canโ€™t work for a Jap company, 6 months, can be renewed again for another 6 months (and then I think it can be perpetually renewed forever?)
jrejaud 4d
Iโ€™ll add that Iโ€™ve gone through with both so Iโ€™m familiar with the process. The paperwork and dealing with the Jap immigration authorities is a huge pain in the ass, they have to hire the dumbest people in the country to work there (I think thatโ€™s the law).
jrejaud 4d
hoodmaps has never let me down lol
jrejaud 4d
Can anyone recommend one in Osaka by chance?
jrejaud 4d
Japanese are hyper conformist robots (that confers both advantages and disadvantages), 99% of people wear masks, even now. However people leave you alone if you look a bit foreign and donโ€™t wear one, apart from the occasional weird stare. But they are pretty beta so if you stare back and hold eye contact for every one second, theyโ€™ll look away. Only place where they aggressively insist that I wear one is at the gym and USJ (they were super autistic about it and even stopped the ride because it didnโ€™t cover my nose entirely). But at the gym you can pull it down to your chin, dangle it on the side of your ear, itโ€™s fine, itโ€™s about conformity rather than anything to do with proper health standards.
dekim24 4d
I have to overlap a few hours with US time zone so I usually sleep in, do some work during the afternoon, take a break / do stuff in the evening then log back on for a few hours around 12 AM. the daytime work hours I'll go to a cafe / coworking space, in the evening I'm mostly just taking calls anyway (whole point of having overlap in the first place) so I just take them from my apartment
dekim24 4d
but I also negotiated only 3 days a week (Friday is no meeting day for our entire team anyway) of overlap which makes a big difference
hey thanks I didnโ€™t know about the wealth visa - do you have any link? What can you do with it?
Is it just a visa to stay an extended period of time as a tourist?
jrejaud 4d
Basically yes
jrejaud 4d
Itโ€™s a sightseeing visa
jrejaud 4d
You canโ€™t work (legally)
jrejaud 4d
Otherwise youโ€™re fine
meh
jrejaud 3d
To be precise, you can work OUTSIDE of Japan (so if youโ€™re remote/ independent, youโ€™re fine), but you canโ€™t get a job with a Japanese firm inside Japan (not that youโ€™d want to, tbh)
jrejaud 3d
The โ€œwealth visaโ€ is the vernacular, hereโ€™s the official name/ documents visa-agent.net/english/service/for-stay/visa-tokute-katudo-fuyuso/
jrejaud 3d
bqaytboujycu Doing it myself was such a pain in the ass, Iโ€™ve considered starting a company that offers โ€œwhite gloveโ€ Japanese visa services, it would streamline the process as much as possible/ handle as much of the paperwork, weโ€™d work with a JPN lawyer if needed, etc.
jaicab 3d
To UK timezone at least, it was fantastic. Do about an hour of work in the morning to read through yesterday's messages and organise your day, then enjoy a full morning and lunch, makes the day fantastic no matter what I do. Then I plug in around 1-2pm until 7-8pm or so you get everyone's morning but it feels you're ahead because you're presenting all the work you've done. Stay for a couple syncs and done! Off to dinner.

It helps a lot if you help the company put meetings together in the morning instead of throughout the day.
Yeah Iโ€™m down for that, I have a piece from one of their games that my daughter took with her last time we went that I need to return
Yeah it basically sucks if they demand overlap with working hours
I did the business manager visa once. It was a colossal pain in the ass and expensive. It might be better now but I would consider it a worst case option unless someone else is paying for it and knows how to do it
One thing about the business manager visa is that getting a bank account might be difficult to actually prove the ยฅ5mil deposit unless you already have one.
Got it thank you for the advice everyone
I was also looking into this point based immigration system. Technically with my current salary I would qualify for 80 points which would put me on the 1 year PR track which is pretty amazing
wnnaowjbv Iโ€™ve thought of the same thing. If you decide to do it Iโ€™d happily be your first customer
All my meetings are US morning time so I work from around 1-4am to attend those meetings
dvpjjrqio โž• 1๏ธโƒฃ
Yeah the points based system was something I looked into when I lived there but the consequences are that generally people tend to โ€œage outโ€ of Japan after a while (unless they get married which you have spouse visa under and would be a different situation) but becoming a permanent resident (or staying too long) introduces tax liabilities
The friends I had get PR with the visa regretted it after they wanted to leave
exit tax isnโ€™t it
Where do people look for accommodation in Japan? Short stays or long?
axel 2d
Booking, Airbnb, Agoda etc. You can usually get a better rate for monthly so I'd book a few days and then ask for their monthly rate. For longer stays there's also foreigner-focused rental companies
I used MetroResidences. Relatively happy with the process/experience.
Hi Team, together with my wife we are visiting Japan for 5 weeks in March/April. We made a general itinerary but we are still figuring out a couple of painpoints - could you take a look and suggest changes? docs.google.com/document/d/1FOXyNTwfVv8W2LpDgj2f3eOFEIHoHqbNNxvrEthuK1s/edit#heading=h.yindkyhr5oltbr />
(itinerary + our interests/limitations etc under the link)
๐Ÿ›ฌ qrexwpcbdzohbey just arrived in ๐Ÿ—ผ Tokyo, #japan
Apologies if this is a redundant question. I plan on spending three months in Japan starting in April. Iโ€™m a full time digital nomad, spending four weeks in each location. I originally planned a month in Tokyo, a month in Osaka, and a month in Kyoto. But after looking at the map and seeing how close Kyoto and Osaka are, Iโ€™m wondering if I can see enough of Kyoto on the weekends while Iโ€™m in Osaka. At which point how do I spend my three months? A month in Tokyo, a month in Osaka,and a month somewhere else? Or maybe even two months in Tokyo and a month in Osaka?

TLDR-How would you plan a three month trip to Japan starting in April if itโ€™s your first time?
I would agree that a month in Kyoto or Osaka would be plenty of opportunity to see the other. My suggestion would be to do the month in Kyoto (because itโ€™s so much more distinct and has more old stuff to explore).

For your third month, Iโ€™d recommend a distinct, more rural area. Hokkaido and Okinawa are the extremes, but you could have a great time in a medium sized city in Kyushu or Tohoku (maybe the latter if itโ€™s getting towards summer).
Iโ€™ve given more rural areas some thought, a bit nervous about the language barrier. Iโ€™m studying Japanese now, and plan on taking Japanese classes while in Tokyo, but I imagine Iโ€™ll still be quite basic. I might look into it more though.
My advice is not to worry too much. Outside of Tokyo, โ€œruralโ€ is very relative. There are still plenty of English speakers in, say, prefecture capitals like Sendai, Morioka, Sapporo, that will still be closer to the countryside. And google translate bridges a lot of gaps now.

Have fun with the planning!
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๐Ÿ›ฌ lgfsumf just arrived in โ›ฉ Osaka, #japan
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