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Heeeey! Is anyone stuck in PH cuz of COVID-19 measures?
My gf is stuck there. They wonโ€™t let anyone with citizenship leave, even if they have residency/citizenship elsewhere. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
Are you sure about that? As far as I know as a citizen you are allowed to leave... but yeah, it's not a very easy process now. E.g. looking to meet in Dubai with my gf ๐Ÿค”
Hey yโ€™all! Is the internet really a big issue around PH?!
meaning it's not possible to get a decently working sim card with good lte network and a decent amount of gb's to spare?
It greatly depends on where in the Philippines you are planning on staying and how fast and stable internet you need. Internet in Metro Manila is fine, and I have also managed pretty well on the bigger islands (Bohol, Cebu etc). You can get a pocket WiFi without being a resident, and those work pretty well. If you plan on going to somewhere more remote, like Palawan, the internet will be quite spotty and it can be a gamble. Just getting a phone signal can be a struggle in places.
Itโ€™s not a big issue anymore, in my opinion. Iโ€™m in Siargao right now where the internet is essentially unbearable and one of the worst in the Philippines (everything is mobile data here as they donโ€™t have internet cables, let alone fiber).

Having said that, I can still do video calls with high quality video in the middle of storms. The only thing thatโ€™s slow is downloading large files. Uploading is ok though.

If you just need a reasonably stable connection, you should be ok in most places (canโ€™t speak much for Mindanao but thatโ€™s not a common tourist place yet).

If you need fast speeds (50mbps+), then youโ€™ll need to be in Manila, Cebu and other cities. Or at least not in the provinces. Having said that, itโ€™s not unusual at all to see 70mbps+ on LTE. And many provinces are now getting fiber. Plus you can message resorts / Airbnbโ€™s beforehand and they are usually open about what internet speeds to expect.

In the internet used to be so annoying (unpredictable). Nowadays, I canโ€™t really complain as it has improved so much, and itโ€™s getting better.
i normally need stable 50mbps, wifi or lte, i don't mind as long as there are good gb-heavy data plans... would you only suggest manila then? ๐Ÿ˜ž that'd be a huge pity
wait, just re-read your messages. so let me rephrase, which cities / places would you recommend for good stable 50+mbps in either wifi or lte?
Donโ€™t stay in Manila. Youโ€™ll regret it haha. Never met anyone that liked it.

The thing that sucks here is that you canโ€™t get a monthly paid SIM card if you are on a tourist visa. And even if you could, no one offers unlimited data plans. So you have to get pay-as-you-go.

But thatโ€™s fine. I usually pay 50 PHP ($1) every 3 days for 1GB of data (plus 1GB extra for certain services - for example you could choose to use the 1GB extra with video streaming apps, or social media apps, or whatever), which is enough for me, although I obviously use the hotel WiFi when Iโ€™m not out.

Stable LTE nearly everywhere there is civilization, but not so much in the mountains.

Stable LTE over 50mbps many places you find LTE, even on uninhabited islands sometimes.

WiFi standard in most areas is at least 20mbps. But in most places you can get 50+. In Manila, you can get up to 1GB/s. If you stay in hotels, donโ€™t expect them to have the fastest packages. If you rent a place yourself, you can get what you want.
Places you may struggle sometimes with internet:
- up some mountains
- some remote areas in Palawan, but not the main areas with towns
- probably the most southern small islands towards Malaysia but no one goes there lol
- Batanes (small northernmost island)
- remote islands if they arenโ€™t flat (hills can block signal)
wow that's amazing info, thank you so much U012A0HLR8B!!
won't be coming there soon as we just started nomading from spain, currently in egypt and moving east, so still a long way to get there ๐Ÿ˜„ but will definitely pass by, i actually cant' wait
Well probably wonโ€™t be able to visit here for another year anyway, but I hope that you get to do so soon!
wow that's amazing info again haha, thank you so much!
How's the mobile data in Siargao?
Thanks a lot for all that info U012A0HLR8B! Keep on suuuuuurfing ๐Ÿ™‚
In terms of Mindanao, I live in Davao City and find it great! The internet varies depending on where you are (LTE wise). My suggestion is simply when youโ€™re checking place a) see if they have fiber b) do a speed test on your smart/globe sim
You need to have backups here so I have PLDT Fiber, am getting Globe Fiber as a backup and then have a Globe at Home LTE router as final backup.
Davao doesnโ€™t have a ton to do touristy wise though. I like it because itโ€™s super safe and good for families. I have a toddler.
is the 50mbps requirement because you are downloading/uploading a ton of data ?
video calls and the like don't really require more than 10-20 mbps, they're more dependent on latency i think
yeah, i work in ai so i'm constantly dl and ul tons of data ๐Ÿ˜• also videocalls with over 20 people
Hello
can we enter the phils yet? ๐Ÿค”
Nope
Iโ€™m guessing not until late 2021 or 2022
kerr1mo
Welp..looks like 2022 at the earliest.
Possibly post vaccination though right?
kerr27d
I donโ€™t think theyโ€™re allowing inbound international flights at all. Seems to be getting worse specifically in Manila.
Yep, Manila is upping their quarantine status again tomorrow. The cases keep rising. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
I feel bad โ€ฆ wishing them the best, this has been much harder on certain countries than others.
So fucking happy I moved to Siargao
Feel so bad for Manila people
How's the internet?
Usually between 20-30 mbps with an LTE router
svyklezcfsux is that typical or did you have to find a specific location to get that?
Most locations youโ€™ll get this with an LTE router. Globe is best in General Luna, and Smart in Catangnan/ Cloud 9.
LTE router gives you a faster and more stable connection than phone, even though they are using the same connection, because the telecom companies prioritize internet traffic to the routers
kerr26d
Same ๐Ÿ˜ž Iโ€™m not sure what happened with initial lockdown but with the conditions so bad it seems like there never was lockdown in the first place. Just no tourists.
zrrhwamvfphf Do you think Siargao could have the potential to become a DN hotspot in post-covid times? I have considered going to Siargao many times before the COVID, but a lot of people have mentioned that the internet and infrastructure is still quite limited.
zifyuij 1000%. Itโ€™s like Bali was 30-40 years ago. Infrastructure isnโ€™t really a problem now as the roads are being improved almost daily. There are roads to most places youโ€™d wanna visit.

I can imagine the internet would be slower if there were thousands more tourists here. But the new telecom just launched and should be in Siargao soon. Plus apparently they are running fiber under the sea from the mainland.

The hardest things to get used to here for me were:
โ€ข island time - people turn up super late for everything and itโ€™s so annoying
โ€ข buying things - so many things are hard to get here. So you have to order them online and wait for a while, or do without them
โ€ข getting services - many things like AC cleaning, water delivery, waste removal, etc. are organized through word of mouth and just bumping into the right people - at least they have a restaurant delivery service here now!
There are currently no Coworking spaces, but people often work in restaurants and cafes. I think a Coworking space would work here, however, most expats I have met here arenโ€™t working online - they are usually rich already, have a business here, or are unemployed. But Iโ€™m not sure how different it was before the pandemic.

Even BPOs are setting up small offices here now. I think itโ€™ll be a DN hub for people that do any sea-based sports and/or want a less developed version of Bali.
the first lockdown was harsh, and they contained the virus kind of ok. but they relaxed things recently and cases in Manila went from 30k to 130k in 1 month. i don't get why they didn't just buy a ton of vaccines and get back to normal asap. i think 2021 will just be 2020 all over again
Thereโ€™s a lot of vaccine skepticism there though, unfortunately. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
kerr14d
Thatโ€™s going to make things much worse if no one trusts it.
i don't think this is true really. polls show that the majority of people want to take the vaccine, but that the majority of them also prefer the western vaccines, not Chinese or Russian ones. Which is a very similar attitude to the western world
but there's no chance (as a healthy young foreigner) that I will get the chance to have a vaccine this year, so looks like I'll be looking to some vaccine tourism later in the year
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