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๐Ÿ›ฌ hsaweqdbe just arrived in ๐ŸŒŠ Cape Town, #south-africa
๐Ÿ›ฌ mcjaor just arrived in ๐ŸŒŠ Cape Town, #south-africa
Thank you very much, it really was good without any problems!
Hey all,
currently enjoying beautiful spring in Joburg. Is anyone here atm and up to go for a drink or check out some cool areas?
๐Ÿ›ฌ wuyrbirxjmux just arrived in ๐ŸŒŠ Cape Town, #south-africa
Have someone tried to use 420monkeys service?
Anyone coming from USA to SA that can bring me a new MacBook Pro 16" 2021?
you might want to ask for people coming from Australia instead, itโ€™s cheaper there and there are probably more Ozzies coming here anyway
also itโ€™s fairly random from what I understand but they definitely do check sometimes at the border/customs for new devices and charge fees
not condoning it but I have heard of people who suggest taking the device out of the packaging etc
in theory you are meant to fill out a form when you leave SA registering what devices you are carrying so you can prove that you are brining the same ones back in again
Huh, TIL. Another reason to just not bother coming back
Hi! Looking into cities in South Africa to hangout this winter, I didnโ€™t see any recent threads about this from the last few months so figured iโ€™d ask. Any recommendations on best cities for digital nomads? I.E. good consistently fast wifi, easy enough to get around without a car, near beautiful landscapes? Thank you in advance
Cape Town is a DN hotspot for a reason. I'd recommend starting here if it's your first time to SA.
Sweet, thanks!
Not only for the actual DN capability, but also because Joburg is not nearly the same in terms of activities, walkability, safety, etc.

Aside the looting earlier in the year, I'd imagine Durban isn't too bad either but far fewer nomads there.
Hey, im a South African. Cape Town is where it's at. Beautiful, coastal, mountains, lots to do.
Then do a road trip along the "Garden Route". Beautiful spots all along that route.
The centre of Cape Town where its all happening is small enough to not need a car and to just take Uber everywhere. A single trip anywhere in the city bowl will cost you about $4. Im actually going back there soon to enjoy the summer. ๐Ÿ™‚
Durban does look pretty awesome for sure. I actually had a girlfriend who was originally from there years ago and she talked about it a lot. However Cape Town is looking like a good jumping off point
Durban is cool too. Humid and warm. Ocean is a lot more swimmable than in Cape Town. Cape Town ocean is FREEEEEZING. Durban is tropical.

Its the whole 2 oceans thing.
If you are in the country for a long time id say go to Durbs and the wild coast. Its an awesome experience. You wont be able to work from the wild coast though.
Interesting, good to know - is it because of the WIFI it wouldnโ€™t work?
> Cape Town ocean is FREEEEEZING.
fwiw, the False Bay side (eg. Strand, Muizenberg) isn't quite as bad as the Atlantic side (eg. Camps Bay, Blouberg).
Don't get me wrong, the water is definitely not as warm as Durbs, but heaps better. I always found it surprising how big of a difference there was in water temps between the two sides
Yea, alot of the wild coast will have no wifi and pretty basic cellphone reception. LIke the transkei. But you can work no problem in Cape Town or Durbs. Any town really you should be fine. Im just saying dont plan to do any work if you on the wild coast and need good internet.
Makes sense, killer thanks [email protected]
I appreciate all the comments from everyone, super helpful
Hell ya man!
Sounds like we should do a summer CPT meetup
๐Ÿ›ฌ ntknlewn just arrived in ๐ŸŒŠ Cape Town, #south-africa
๐Ÿ›ฌ zdqvlhjng just arrived in ๐ŸŒŠ Cape Town, #south-africa
Hows it going?
Amazing! Cape Town one of the best city for me! Atmosphere, weather, food are good here and you can do sport and grow with pleasure here!
Hi, could you recommend the best regular (weekly/duoweekly) events in Cape Town with great community to meet other digital nomads? Things I mean:
โ€ข brunches/lunches around subjects like crypto, startups, generic nomads,
โ€ข beginner classes in anything by anything I mean yoga, surfing, weightlifting or other fun activities (only importance is the beginner part)
โ€ข any conferences/bigger meetups that are happening in the next month/two?
โ€ข ideas for a new year eve?
For tech events and community in ZA, the biggest place to find all that is either Meetup or| Most groups aren't doing IRL meetups yet though.

For hobbies it's a lot more fragmented depending on where you are in the metro. You have to find people into the thing to get good recommendations. E.g. I knew a bit of the local salsa scene a few years ago but it's changed since.

Conference wise not much I think. Pycon was a while back, and DevConf is happening somewhere in Q2 2022.

Might be time to start a nomad meetup since we've been sorely lacking featuring in the meetup posts here ๐Ÿ™‚
Killer! Iโ€™ll be there soon haha
definitely uber - joburg is terrifying to drive in, very specific aggressive driving style that the uber drivers know well and uber is cheap enough
gautrain is great to get from the airport into the city, and then uber everywhere - youโ€™ll save on parking too
there was a bit of an issue with uber in 2017 where the taxi drivers started being violent against uber drivers to protect โ€˜their territoryโ€™ - uber handled it pretty well and had in-app notifications about safe places to get picked up etc. AFAIK itโ€™s all good now.
Well, there's still issues with uber and taxi drivers - my girlfriend was there last year and they wouldn't pick her up by one of the gautrain stations unless she walked 2 blocks down.
oh interesting - yeah I got the notification to walk a couple of blocks a while ago but thought that was all over now
Hey everyone ๐Ÿ™‚ Iโ€™m checking for coming in January (Cape Town) and my main goal is to surf & work there. Are there any surfers here that can tell me more about the conditions, whatโ€™s the best beach, is summer a good time for surfing there? ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™€๏ธ ๐ŸŒŠ
not a surfer but Jeffreyโ€™s Bay is meant to be the best spot in the world or something and I know people who have said great things about
Thank you for the link !!
Have you been in this coworking?
no but a friend of mine recommended it to me when I was considering visiting there - he lives in JBay and goes there a lot
Alright great to know ! ๐Ÿ™Œ
fyi, that's really far outside of cape town. like 8 hours drive far. I'm not a surfer, but my understanding is that Muizenberg is the local cape town surf spot.
Oh wow 8 hours is far away indeed, Iโ€™ll check Muizenberg as well then ๐Ÿ™‚ Iโ€™m guessing that living in Cape Town is way. better?
oh sorry completely missed the cape twon part of your message - yeah Muizenberg is definitely your friend then
remember that south africa has โ€˜two oceansโ€™ though so water is freezing on the west side and you have to go to east of country to get warm indian ocean
I heard about the freezing water haha that doesnโ€™t seem fun cold_face
Jeffreyโ€™s Bay is close to port elizabeth which has an airport so you can fly Cape Town to Port Elizabeth (1h flight) if you also want the warm water ๐Ÿ™‚
but internet, electricity, water, transport, etc all work substantially better in Cape Town than anywhere else
It makes total sense, internet is indeed a big factor for me. Are you gonna be there in January?
yeah probably mainly in a small town in the Eastern Cape, but probably in Cape Town for a week towards the end of Jan
It's been a while (2003-2006) since I've been surfing in the area.
Back then, we'd consider going either east or west depending on general conditions/surf/wind.

To the east, we'd head to Strand, or Kogel Bay (better known as Koรซl Bay by locals). We much preferred Koรซl Bay, but it was a bit of a hike through the bushes to get down to the beach. (Never went to Muizenberg myself, but heard it's nice.)

To the west, there are tons of spots all up the coast starting from Blouberg, Melkbos. Basically depending on how far you're willing to travel.
Closer to the city (which we avoided due to traffic as we were based out of Stellenbosch), there are a fair few solid spots, too. Shouldn't be too hard to find if you have a chat with a few locals around the area. ๐Ÿ™‚
And yes, Jeffrey's Bay is amazing. Absolutely worth the trip.
They seemed to have the full range of spots for just about every level within a few kilometers of town. Beginner through to pro - you'll find a spot for you.
Amazing, thank you qltsqkhvg for the response ๐Ÿ˜„
Hey man, Iโ€™m moving into neighbourgood mid-january, have a look!
Anybody else worried about this new variant?
I am

planned leave at the end of January, now thinking about the end of December, but I am not sure that I can leave SA even in December
Yep, rethinking my travel dates. Supposed to leave on Dec. 12 but I have a feeling more countries will ban people traveling from SA so I'm thinking of leaving early. Will wait and see, but as soon as more countries start to ban I'll make a move.
Similar situation here. We are planning to be in SA for 2-3 months en route to europe.
However, if it looks like we may get barred from entering europe, we'd have to rearrange our plans
(planned to arrive in SA mid January)
They really don't know anything yet other than that it exists and it's already been detected in Asia. It's a lot of media sensationalism. We won't know more about communicability and mortality for a few weeks.
Yep, early days.
Keep calm and travel on.
Media sensationalism and a ton of travel bans. If you're not in SA, don't come right now.
There is a bit of a duality here:
โ€ข World class genomics labs get the entire country punished for being honest
โ€ข Population that is still majority unvaccinated with a disastrous government making the place untrustworthy as "yet another 3rd world hole", despite somehow current case count being relatively low.
๐Ÿ›ฌ fuchyeh just arrived in ๐ŸŒŠ Cape Town, #south-africa
ocywizqiqgpnuxj enough travel bans yet?
Is travel to Thailand still possible from SA?
Site doesn't seem to work, I filled in all the information several times but it keeps crashing and starting over
๐Ÿ›ฌ uxummucufqoxh just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Johannesburg, #south-africa
Hello! Anyone have any insight? I booked a non-refundable ticket to Cape Town middle of January, any chance Iโ€™ll still be able to go safely? Or should I try and look at getting a refund and looking at a different country?
January is too far into the future for anyone to be able to predict with much confidence. I would definitely have a backup plan though. Given the current trends, I would say it's not looking good.
I suppose it also depends a lot on your definition of "safely". Cape Town wasn't that safe even before the pandemic.
We still don't actually know much at this point. There's a lot of media sensationalism going on. These restrictions were kneejerk reactions to a new variant that most likely didn't even start in SA. Evidence is suggesting it's already all over the world, making these restrictions pointless, and the initial information is that symptoms are relatively mild. This may be much ado about very little, but it seems pretty clear that most of the world is running on fear and panic and not actual logic, so who knows. :man-shrugging:

However, if the airline has to cancel, you'll get a credit or a refund depending on their policies. Or your credit card can charge back the cost. You shouldn't be caught holding the bill if you can't fly. If you can fly, but you just don't want to, that's going to be on you.

For context/safety though, SA was seeing about 200 new cases on a rolling 7-day average a week ago. Now we're at 2000. That's a huge increase, but it's still a very low number when you consider the population is 40m. SA is currently doing a lot better than Europe and the US, where the bans were imposed.

I'm not planning to leave early, I'll ride it out here. President announced yesterday that we're not changing the alert level just yet. They want more info, and frankly, they want tourism this summer.
There are rumors that Omicron causes much more mild symptoms which could be why it spreads better. Anecdotally, the people I know who tested positive since the variant was announced were all asymptomatic. So it could turn out that countries where Omicron is the dominant strain are actually safer than countries where Delta is. But this is wild, wild speculation. Most of what you read online is crazy hot take clickbait, we know almost nothing at this point.
But I agree it's very early
Hospitalizations went up 300%, but positive covid results went up 1000%
I'd say that's empirical evidence that the symptoms are more mild.
Thanks for the insight!! Definitely better to wait and see and if I cant go, hopefully they will refund me. For sure just donโ€™t want to get covid again or put anyone at risk, but it sounds like Iโ€™ll do that most places in the next couple months.
Hi! I want to buy a laptop, what is best service or shop to buy it?

Upd. I am in Capetown
jdbvcvdpl good afternoon, do you want consumer or commercial range
They have many brands but Dell notebooks have a good international warranty
did you get website to look on?
send me your email address and I can send you a Dell pricelist
๐Ÿ›ฌ szxxfskxldnyc just arrived in Plettenberg Bay, #south-africa
Hi gfrkqtimt did you come right?
If you're looking for Mac you can do one of the Apple stores (locally branded iStore), which is at Dock Road in the city, or at the V&A Waterfront, or at Century City (about 15min outside of town).
Has someone tried to get tax free in Capetown Airport, did you have any problems?
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