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It's every person employed by a company with foreign guest workers, including Koreans
exactly it’s putting the blame on the foreigners
It'll be mostly Korean nationals getting tested since most companies have a small percentage of foreign workers
which creates more hate towards foreigners
they would be saying, “hey because of these careless foreigners I have to take tests”
which is not true at all
my colleague just called them, it’s not the other korean employees, just the employer (however that is defined, the boss I guess) and the foreign employees
Oh well that makes no sense at all
yeh I run a company here with a few korean employees, guess I’m only one getting tested haha
welcome to korea haha
don’t support these racist policy because you want to be polite as a guest. we should call out bullshits and reclaim our rights
I agree it would've been better to say companies with crowded working conditions or which provide corporate housing should have mandatory testing rather than make it a nationality thing
yeah to me it just sounds like a bullshit excuse
there are many more businesses that employees locals that are in worst condition
first, they came for the religious cult, then the gays, then the churchgoers, then the foreigners, and what’s next?
I'm pretty tolerant of these policies though because the tests are free, they've suspended any immigration enforcement, and they've kept the virus at bay enough for me to go to restaurants and coffee shops and have an otherwise normal life compared to people in most countries
When I was in India people were getting beaten in the streets for violating curfew, no one would rent to a foreigner, and the police were confiscating passports
My family in NYC never left the house
I got to go to a museum yesterday
while people live freely in Mexico without any check ins
i guess korean govt. attitudes to foreigners will change over time as the current folks in power retire, and the younger more open minded and better travelled people take over
lets see, aging population doesn’t help though
In Mexico the hospitals are overflowing
I'd take a nanny state over a health crisis any day
The Korean government texts me to remind me to put a jacket on when it's cold outside
It's hilarious
Not sure I'd want to live like that forever but it's nice during a pandemic
I choose the opposite which is why I left Korea
It’s disgusting what Korean govt is doing in name of public safety cellphone location tracking without a warrant, credit card inquirty without a warrant, location reporting by qr code, forced hospital quarantine if you test positive,
in Germany where I used to live the public services treat foreigners equally as badly as they treat their own citizens…actually being treated a bit worse in korea is still better service than in germany as a citizen lol
Hahaha those are all the policies I came here for!
I can’t breath without feeling being watched. I can’t be audacious in Korea.
Yeah the US government treats foreigners like animals, it's embarrassing
depends which type of foreigner you are let’s be honest
I think that's true in Korea too, I'm definitely getting better treatment than the migrant workers from southeast asia or africa
xenophobia universal
hard to complain as white person honestly, it’s a massive privilege in terms of travel everywhere in the world
but more thing I learn as I travel, you can’t have everything. there are good things while there are bad things. you may value one thing more than other at certain time of your life
i personally don’t want to make too much of a fuss about the few things that are ‘unfair’ on foreigners here…it’s not my country and never will be…I don’t see that changing…there are some countries that do a good job of making people feel like they ‘one of us’ but this isn’t ever going to be one of them
they don’t even consider the CEO of coupang a korean
Maybe in 5 or 10 generations if immigration stays high
Right now the country is 97% ethnic Korean
Korea is doomed anyway without immigration or unification due to its declining population
I think the problem is more of uniculture. Even as a Korean, I don’t fit in to their lifestyle, and it’s really hard to live in Korea going against the mainstream flow
this is why people leave small towns across the US and move to NYC/LA/etc
well that + economic opportunity
yeah same stuff everywhere
It sounds like we're talking about Seoul too though, not just the small towns, is that right?
I think it’s similar analogy where people get sick of the same culture from their hometown, and leave for another city for opportunity
I just want to share some love and smile 😄 sorry if I was venting after reading that article
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Hey, look at this, they listened and are changing the policy! www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2021/03/119_305760.html
Seoul hasn’t officially announced that they’re following suit but it looks like they’re going to
I just got a letter in the mail saying all households need at least one member to get tested regardless of nationality so I’m betting they’ll go with that approach and back off of the foreigner thing
> In response to controversy about racism and discrimination against foreigners, Seoul City said it originally intended to issue the order only for foreign workers in certain jobs, such as factory workers. But it changed the policy because that might have constituted discrimination based on occupation.
Source www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210318000863
This is hilarious to me. They thought it would be wrong to discriminate based on occupation, so they decided to discriminate based on nationality instead. 🤦‍♂️
Admirable they were able to take the hint and reverse course so quickly though 👏
I think they had no option. EU ambassadors were mad about this

Ooooh
That's why they had the exemption for diplomats first
ruling reversed
no mandatory need for test now
do you qualify for national health insurance?
Not yet, first six months on D4 I have to use private insurance. I got some insurance from the university but not much information about it, and I couldn’t pay it yet until I get my residence card, bank account a phone number and so on… so maybe I’m not covered. Only know that the thing for 6 months costs only 70k won, which doesn’t look like much, and I’m looking into different possibilities.

The thing that scared me the most is that even in an emergency treatment I need to pay before and claim after with the insurance that the university got for me.
I would ask the university about terms and conditions for the insurance.

Private health insurance is very uncommon in Korea. If you wanna be extra careful, you can buy a nomad insurance like Signa or Safetywing.

Fwiw, even without an insurance, medical cost is still lower than most of western countries. For example, a brain MRI scan would cost 350k KRW (around $300 USD) [1]

[1] www.scc-health.com/non-payment/?ckattempt=1
$4000 for appendicitis surgery for uninsured. $800 for insured www.gibbeumhospital.com/JH_center/center.asp?center_idx=210&p_cate_idx=6&cate_idx=48#
Speaking of does anyone have good seoul dr recs? Dentists particularly. Imma need to get a prescription for allergy meds soon with all these 🌸
I do all my medical stuff through Seoul Guide Medical, they’re a concierge service for foreigners. They provide translators and will help you pick doctors. My personal dentist is fine but she’s in Gangnam and I only picked her because she works with my orthognathic surgeon.
Yes, I was thinking about this, because no other solution kinda convinces me. Thanks for the info and the links! I did found already that medicine is way cheaper than in other countries here. I just came from Poland, which in Europe is considered a cheap country and medicine was more expensive than here 🤔
If you're in gangbuk area, i recommend doctor noah. They are pretty honest and the head dentist can speak some English.
Looks like they're trying to get a nomad visa done this year
amir10d
Could be a good deal for those who don’t remit their income to Korea. It’s basically tax free for the first 5 years.
Yeah with the tax incentives and the ultra fast internet i could see Seoul becoming the biggest nomad hub in east asia
It's not quite as cheap as chiang mai but it's surprisingly close and the infrastructure is much better
amir10d
I don’t see that happening until they clean up the air. It’s gone downhill every year since I got here in 2016. But I’m long Jeju, still amazing minus the winter.
Hmm yeah Jeju makes more sense than Seoul, you're right
Although I think nomads are pretty tolerant of seasonal air quality issues if chiang mai is any indication
Or busan
They always say it’s the San Francisco!
So I’m living near the Gangnam station and the same women keep trying to give strangers a bag with something in it. Every weekday. I’m dying to know what brand of scam this is. They are very forceful and people are openly hostile to them.
There are other women who come up super close to people and just start chatting but I dunno if they’re connected. Just a lot of scams happening on the street over there. Like anywhere, no shade on Gangnam. Just funny that it’s so obvious even I am like, that’s a scam.
Are they selling real estate?
amir10d
I think those grandmas are peddling real estate investments, maybe commission based. Should investigate next time.
I think that’s what it is
selling units in new apartment complexes
that’s why they never approach foreigners, there’s almost no chance we buy
They did approach me! At least until I rebuffed them a bunch of times. This makes sense based on the number of cranes in this area
Juhyun says they are gift bags full of tissues and if you take the bag then in return you need to tour the model unit in the apartment complex
why is the gift in the bag always tissues?
“because everybody needs tissues”
🤷 doesn’t make sense to me either
amir10d
물티슈, you get it at some gas stations where the attendant pumps for you!
is there any news when they will ease quarantine restrictions that forces tourists to stay at their quarantine facilities for those that are vaccinated?
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