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wkwrjloozb why Ruzafa?
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it's more expensive than either Cabanyal or Ciutat Vella
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judging by Airbnb availability
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Because it's hipper ๐Ÿ˜‚
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More hip?
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I'm in the quiet neighborhood phase of living flushedgrinsunglasses
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I was staying just outside ciutat vella and it was nice
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us embassy making spain sound like a disaster zone
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i think I get an email every week from them with some new thing to be worried about
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listeriosis in sevilla, great
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Awesomeness in Sevilla
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Yeah, frankly, I've never registered and wouldn't unless I was going somewhere pretty undeveloped or risky
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El Cabanyal is almost dead during winter, but anyway, I wouldn't go there even in summer. This is one of the poorest neigborhoods in Valencia, recently has become safer because hipsters are renting and renovating houses, but not sure if it's 100% safe. Ruzafa is where cultural things happen, well connected, good vibes. if it's too crowded for you I would also recommend Benimaclet, it should also be cheaper.
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hey all. deciding between madrid or barcelona for a month. does anyone have any preferences and why?
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i would choose neither, but of the two, i'd probably chose madrid. barcelona just always feels like i can't escape the hordes of tourists.
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Barcelona in the winter isnt too jammed up.
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Barcelona is a better old world experience.
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yeah, time of year really matters
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I prefer Barcelona but yea, summer there is too much for me with the herds. Fall is ok if you avoid the main tourist drags and winter is probably even better.
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I prefer Sevilla overall but it's a bit off the beaten path
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The best is a road trip through Andalucia
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Toledo, Cordoba, Malaga
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And Granada, God bless Granada
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We're tentatively planning on hitting southern Spain from January-February. Any thoughts on which towns might be preferable for a small family with a 11 y/o boy?
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I'd suggest not missing Granada (Alhambra) and Toledo. Sevilla as well of course. And making time for all the random stuff that shows up on the road in Spain
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Important safety tip in Sevilla park in a garage on the outskirts of old Town and cab it.
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Driving in old Town Sevilla is tough, driving in old Town Sevilla during the holidays is futile
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Barcelona is more compact and hip. Madrid has lots of historic cultural sites. Madrid can be quieter. It has twice the population but is six times larger so the population density isn't as great. Madrid requires knowing at least basic Spanish unless you only go to tourist spots. And they speak super fast in Spain compared to Mexico.
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Thanks for the tips everyone. jamgiryy is not having a car and relying on trains/public transportation not a good idea in some of these towns?
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Once you're in Sevilla, no car needed (awesomely walkable). In Granada, it depends where you're at. Off the hilltop, Granada is spread out far and wide. Ive only stayed right outside Alhambra or been traveling through so can't say what the suburbs of Granada are like.
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Toledo is a tiny town. I'd only travelled through but remember it as also super walkable. It's also up on a hill.
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Driving a car in the country in Spain is one of the great travel pleasures I've experienced. Driving a car in any Spanish Town outside Madrid and Barcelona is an exercise in patience.
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And because streets are narrow, Google maps is touchy
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Interesting. I normally avoid cars where I can but I'll make a point to rent one for some weekend exploring, around wherever we wind up. Thanks!
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Hola, I have a couple of doubts about non-lucrative visa and proving my cash income. Does it have to be on my personal income or can be my corporation?
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tdonfktxxgitv You can take a bus to Toledo. It was super easy from the main bus station in Madrid. www.tripsavvy.com/getting-from-toledo-from-madrid-1644542
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Or you can train
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Getting to Granada (Alhambra) is kind of a PIA since it's sort of in the middle with nothing else around it so if you're short on time you might have to skip it like we did even though we really wanted to see it
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IMO, Granada is one of those beautiful places and so interesting to see. In it of itself has different parts of town with distinct characteristics. Definitely worth a stop over. If it is "out of the way" then I get it, but then just plan to go there sometime in your life because it's amazingly beautiful.
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I agree. I'm Spanish and Granada is one the most beautiful cities in Spain. Totally recommend it
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Another vote for Granada ๐Ÿ˜‰ I've been there 3 times and probably will go again at next opportunity
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There's a hotel just outside Alhambra that has a balcony with an incredible view
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Hotel Alhambra Palace
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Great spot for coffee, tortilla, etc
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omg someone teleport me a giant slab of tortilla plskthx
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Don't expect to park out front. There's maybe 4 spaces
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My wife is counting down the days to tortilla-ville
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jellyyyyyy
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OK, I'm hearing the love for Granada hereโ€ฆ but is more of a stopover type of place or a place to stay for a month or two?
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stop-over imo
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Sevilla... I could live there long term
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Not sure where you're coming from, but I can vouch for the Barcelona<->Sevilla drive
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10 hours of prime Spain driving
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I've also done the Malaga->Granada->Sevilla->Cordoba->Toledo->Madrid drive. Also outstanding, but more of a 8-14 day excursion
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I stayed there for 2 months and it was great place to live. Just avoid staying there in the summer as it is too hot and most people leave the city for the coasts
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Lived in Granada for 1.5 years (working freelance). Was a fantastic experience. Ama! :)
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Depends what you like I guess? Personally I loved Granada BUT I'm not sure if I'd stop there for 2 months - at least not right now. I'm living in a VERY quiet place and would be looking for something a bit bigger/more vibrant. On the other hand, when I used to live in London and I was looking for something quieter but still with everything available, then maybe I'd stay in Granada. So it really depends on expectations :)
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How many hours did you spend in Bar Pibe? ๐Ÿ˜„
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zero ๐Ÿ˜›
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I lived above the Alhambra (albaicin/sacromonte) so my large terrace was always the go to hehe
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Hola ๐Ÿ‘‹ Anyone in Barcelona?
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Hola ๐Ÿ‘‹ Anyone in Barcelona?
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Me ๐Ÿค
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If anybody is in Barcelona, we're having our 2nd meetup of IndieHackers. Some of our folks are digital nomads bootstrapping their products. If you're in Barcelona and wanna connect with like-minded people, share experiences, help each other and learn through doing then you should join us on *5th of Sep at OneCoWork* ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ‘‰ www.eventbrite.com/e/indiehackers-barcelona-2-with-mathilde-leo-tickets-68776746099
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am also in bcn
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hit me up +447926651198
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awesome. for long are you here?
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Anyone worked from Malaga? Thoughts?
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Also want to know โ˜๏ธ
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I'm there in a couple of days, would love any suggestions too!
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We had an Airbnb in the old sector near Mia Coffee shop. It was large enough to work from home, but old enough to hear every sound from the street.
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Great food town, easy to get around. Find a list online for when the cruise ships are in port so you know when to avoid the main drag.
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If you know some Spanish, how easy or hard is it to make friends there (Malaga)?
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Fwiw, I didn't like malaga much. It's ok but there are other cities I'd go to first.
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Which?
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I didn't like malaga much either; btw the accent from people there is quite rough! might be extra hard to understand for people whose mother tongue is not Spanish
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(even for a Spaniard it's hard to understand if you're not from there ๐Ÿ˜… )
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but TBF people there are very friendly (this applies to pretty much everywhere in Andalucia)
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In the south my favorite is Seville. In the north I prefer logrono but also like Pamplona and burgos.
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ok will check them too
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I _love_ Logrono
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Yeah I would not recommend right now, city is still empty. Around Sept/October people start returning back from the coasts into Granada, it becomes more vibrant, and the weather starts to be more bearable.
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take a look at Granada, hiqybdrys
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xbzmhngmx what do you think about Granada in January/February compared to other places in Southern Spain?
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Wow! I'm from Logroรฑo! I didn't expect anyone to know my city! Thank you :)
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I was there for San Mateo a few years ago. Had a blast and it's a charming city. It's on my list of places to return to.
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I glad that you liked it!! San Mateo is great! Probably the craziest time of the year to visit Logroรฑo hahaha
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yeah, i was walking the camino so it wasn't planned. :)
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but i stopped there and enjoyed my time, for sure
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I spent last May there. It's a great little city.
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Logroรฑo is great, they have the best wine!
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When we went there we went to this little street called "Laurel Street" full of bars, each has it own special tapa/pincho... delicious!
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I think there is a bar at the end of the street called "Dakar" and another at the begining called "Paris"
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people try to do the "Paris - Dakar" in one night, have one wine per bar between those two... crazy ๐Ÿ˜‚
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arbqilkay I live in Ronda (my hometown), a city between Malaga, Sevilla and Granada
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If you need anything just let me know, happy to help :)
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Ronda looks like this unsplash.com/photos/HfE1Fgwa0-A
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I'm getting such great ideas for when I'm back in spain!
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I think the paris-dakar you're thinking about is in Santiago de campostela, but you definitely drink enough to think you're in logroรฑo ๐Ÿ˜‚
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xrwquinn You are right! The paris dakar thing is in Santiago ๐Ÿคฃ
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haha yeah. I did it when I was there, but I haven't been to logroรฑo...yet
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yeah, we did a little wine bar crawl when i was there. at 1 euro per glass it was a great night. lol
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love Ronda. plan to pass through there this winter. :)
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Hello! Anyone in Mallorca?
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Isn't Ronda called "Ronda" because of a Roman amphitheatre?
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Not that I know of kadrrgetscmzye in the Roman times it was called Arunda and the amphitheater is in the ruins of the old city of Acinipo
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Nice! I'm sure you are going to love it ๐Ÿ˜„
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let me know when you plan to visit, if we are in Ronda, my girlfriend and I will be happy to be guides for a day ๐Ÿ˜„
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yeah, i've been a couple times. i always enjoy it. :) i'll let you know if/when i pass through.
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๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘
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julmhcpjyaauu I went spent time in southern Spain in the summer/fall so not sure about January/Feb, but it will be completely opposite weather in Granada cause it will be freezing temps. May want to check elsewhere. Seville should be more mild
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how is costa brava?
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Beautiful.
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best part of Catalunya, hands down.
Begur area is precious
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How is Seville over Christmas?
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and any off airbnb housing recommendations ?
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in seville right now and can tell you its pretty damn great rn, dunno about christmas ๐Ÿ˜†
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seville is always great
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The Epiphany parade in Sevilla is nuts
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And Sevilla is always great seconded
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La Banda Rooftop Hostel, if you're into that.
Not requested, but make sure to check out the Aire Spas - specifically the cold/warm pools
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ohxebopkfrhalumjhsfgrd just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Barcelona, #spain
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Hey! Anyone in barna right now? I'll be here for a few weeks
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femkedemaijerffrubojkxwfm just arrived in ๐Ÿ Ibiza, #spain
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booked some time in the Canary Islands for next year, looking forward to it
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foganuxuubnqnavzax just arrived in Valencia, #spain
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yhgviqwygmrlootfjzoldqtge just arrived in Valencia, #spain
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Wait for me! Damn, I won't be there until December.
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What's the best location in the canary islands for nomads? Trying to decide between Spanish or Greek islands for November, any suggestions welcome
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Greece gets cold, rainy and humid. Las Palmas on Gran Canaria is a good nomad spot but the worst weather ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
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Really the weather is bad in Las Palmas? That's the first time I'm hearing this
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Lanzorotte better weather
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South teneriff too although north is better for nomads
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Not bad, only cloudy :) But the temperature is just perfect
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wtxhillsengjlqtpnvc just arrived in San Sebastian, #spain
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xcbessiyxrbmjpuden just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Barcelona, #spain
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ovnicscthzokptbedxicv just arrived in Madrid, #spain
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Hi
anyone have recommendations for staying in Mallorca ( coworking / accommodations / Places to visit )? ๐Ÿ˜„
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Hi
anyone have recommendations for staying in Mallorca ( coworking / accommodations / Places to visit )? ๐Ÿ˜„
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rcgiscdvrupqcjrwapy just arrived in San Sebastian, #spain
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pjkbblwhzdcemcshavvja just arrived in San Sebastian, #spain
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OMG jelly I want to be in San Seb
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Except it's probs freezing there by now
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freezing, eh far from it ๐Ÿ˜„
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although i didnt just arrive in san sebastian, currently in valencia (but ill be there on the 18th)
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Siri says it's 18ยฐ
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That's freezing :P
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Yeah, it's now pretty chilly in the morning & evenings here in the south sooo I am sure it is cold up there
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Good cities for November/December (or just in general)? >15ยฐC during the day would be a plus
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south. but keep in mind that this winter is supposed to be especially cold.
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so malaga, seville, etc. canary islands will be warmer.
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yes, even Murcia. Avoid Granada!
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just got our fiberoptic broadban line connected in Santa Cruz de Tenerife. with a nominal 600Mbit speed we measured
266/290 to Berlin
143/192 to London and
115/270 to Rome
I'm positively surprised. The preconception was that due to the remoteness of the islands they are poorly connected, but I suspect now they are an absolutely amazing destination for DNs
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I don't even remember what 600mbit feels like
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I've been chugging along just fine on like .... 5. ๐Ÿ˜‚
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MORE BANDWIDTH FOR CAT PICS
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there you go
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waits for them to load
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my main reason of wanting decent speeds is that in my work I do video calls a lot. fraction of this speed would suffice, but 5Mbit is a bit slow for that
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i am so happy i don't have to do video calls. i currently have one voice call a week and even that will be going away soon. it will not make me sad.
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I've managed video calls decently on ~5mbit
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I still hate doing them though
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I do not miss the stress of whether my internet will work for daily video calls. That seems like the biggest benefit of having a home base, if you need that internet speed + stability rjuzazonyuvzdm Congrats!
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thanks
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These measurements are awesome! What did you use to take them? I'm curious what my numbers are from Las Palmas.
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hey nomad people! anyone fancy to spend this winter in barcelona? i'm going to explore patagonia from december till march-april and renting out my sunny studio apartment in poblenou district. dozens of coworking spaces, 20 mins from the city centre, 15 from the sea. fully equipped kitchen, huge window, 50mbit internet, projector, bicycle, skateboard - pretty much everything you will need ๐Ÿ˜‰ dm me if interested
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hey nomads! anyone fancy to spend this winter in barcelona? i'm going to explore patagonia from december till march-april and renting out my sunny studio apartment in poblenou district. dozens of coworking spaces, 20 mins from the city centre, 15 from the sea. fully equipped kitchen, 50mbit internet, projector, bicycle, skateboard - pretty much everything you will need ๐Ÿ˜‰
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I'll take it for a month?
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So this is Movistar Fiberoptic 600 and used Speedtest.net with different remote servers. The measurements where run on wifi also, wired might be slightly better
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Damn about a month late for me, already booked
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mine is up to 300โ€ฆand cat cafeโ€ฆ.
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On an off chance, does anybody here know a good accountant in/near Valencia? (Barcelona/Madrid too far)
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fhgbcxdpdpehvdkghgbkpoeha just arrived in ๐Ÿ Las Palmas, Canary Islands, Canary Islands#C02ULAFPS|spain
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In San Sebastian :) meetup? Tips?
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i think the general tip is eat all the foods. but lmyttdawxnrl will likely have a list of restaurants for you.
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Pls hold shall rummage up the list I just copy and paste to people
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(Re San Seb)
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I miss San Seb all the tiiiiiime
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Correct answer for bacalao and boquerones eat them all the time, everywhere ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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Hello!
if anyone wants to spend the winter in Barcelona (2nd week of December until March/April (open to negotiation)) lmk.
it's a small modern (zero noise inside) 1 room flat behind the boqueria market (epicentre of Barcelona).
1000โ‚ฌ all included (cleaning as well if needed).
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Barcelona ๐Ÿ™ˆ Are you there now? We have been hearing a lot of crazy news these days
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No, rented the flat until end of November
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I prefer to not watch the Tele, too much manipulation of the media
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I get the news from friends and twitter
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I'm here now. The breakers are mostly punk catalan teenagers, everyone else is just spectating. Some smashed windows in born and fires lit in main strip.
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kvghasgryzmjtxufwqhnsaoqg just arrived in Valencia, #spain
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In Bilbao :) anyone here?
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nmsxwgedainczorrx just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Barcelona, #spain
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<@UHYHNFELS just arrived in Madrid, #spain
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#hey vpvpanpcicwdeawr i basically live in Madrid now, how long are you here for? ๐Ÿ™‚
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Just a couple days, on route to Montevideo on Friday to flee the cold ๐Ÿ˜ DM me if youโ€™d like to meet up.
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hey has anyone tried coliving places in spain? I don't like staying alone, so looking into trying one...I have a feeling they look a bit too smiley for me, and contrived though. Last time i stayed in Madrid i found most the time I'm working alone cos everyone is at work
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do they exist?
never saw oneโ€ฆ
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Barcelona has plenty of cafes and coworkings with other digital nomads/remote workers you can interact with, not sure about Madrid
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there is one that i know of in Javea. why not rent a shared airbnb and work from a coworking space?
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I went to get some Euros at a BBVA ATM here in Madrid last night and it wanted to charge me something like โ‚ฌ6 EUR for a withdrawal of โ‚ฌ150. Is that the way the banks roll here, or is there a better/less expensive bank to go get some cash at?
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yeah thats how it is from what i can see its a bit excessive ๐Ÿ˜…
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i went to withdraw the other day and i had to pay $20+ in conversion fees, bank fees etc
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i am looking at one called 'alandingpad' in barcelona, might try that for a month since I've never done it
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cimsvvsoiwxole need to find someone to share! but tbf, I never really had any problems with house share in the past with random people
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you don't have to find someone to share with you rent just a room in an airbnb and others are already there.
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ah right, i have done that before too and other guests are usually good, but would also be nice to have people in the same situation which is why i considrede the coliving space thing
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nulkdxoua seems like you're trying to drop your link but you wont be able to so might want to try posting without it. ๐Ÿ™‚
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Hi UD3M8229H! We run the coliving space in Javea fmhnxqwgwxlwdp was talking about. If that is what you are looking for, that is exactly what we offer and our guests are looking as well ๐Ÿ™‚ Ping me if you have any questions!
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bbzpuqumiznclj I was having an issue syncing my Slack client with the forum and it kept banning me, sorry about that!
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๐Ÿ‘‹ ozvxriknr Hoping to stay with you in javea at some point. I was at sundesk in Morocco for a few weeks earlier this year and Magda raves about you! :)
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I stayed at the coliving space in Javea during a retreat. It was a lovely space and the staff was super sweet. Coliving isnโ€™t my style but if it were, that one would be high on my list.
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hey thanks U0CKGHD60! I will check it out, I feel like I may be like kcyrqbiahxsvxtz though. I'll dm you you qs later Eduardo!
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Great to hear! She's great ๐Ÿ™‚ If you liked Sundesk you'll probably like it here too!
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Depends on card, but I managed to get money out for free - I think it was Baixa (or Bankia, I seem to confuse the two...) - another bank in Spain charged me for withdrawal.
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I just tried that one today and it did sneak in a charge of $1.96 for 100โ‚ฌ without any on screen warning โ€” but Iโ€™ll take that versus the โ‚ฌ6.
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hmmm , weird, where is your card issued? I could swear they have to show you a warning in ATM before charging, although maybe it applies to EU cards only? I definitely got warnings in various Spanish ATMs. Once I really needed money so I paid, but another time i cancelled, and then eventually I found one that did not charge, confirmed on statement. I wish I remembered for sure which one it was!
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My card was a US based CapitalOne 360 account โ€” no ATM or foreign transaction fees on their side. Maybe the ATM did mention the fee but I didnโ€™t notice it. I did notice it trying to push a USD to EUR conversion (which I turned down since thatโ€™s usually a rip-off).
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I agree with the positive comments above, Iโ€™m also currently in Jรกvea in the same coliving, happy to answer questions lmbmjoje
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haha, yes, always select local currency. Especially in Euronet, they are notoriously bad for this being a rip-off, and user experience really makes you think you're making a terrible mistake by not taking their exchange rate :angry:.
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BBVA does this kind of things. I donโ€™t really know how this things work ๐Ÿ˜… but when I was living in Madrid I remember that BBVA would charge me at the ATM when using Revolut. I donโ€™t remember other bank doing that. I used to go to Bankia ATMs, they are quite common, and I never had a problem. Neither with Santander.
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arrived to Tenerife
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I live here now
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how long are you staying?
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do u have a room for me ? ๐Ÿ˜‚
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I've moved my permanent home base to Santa Cruz
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that depends, from when till when?
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2nd week of December
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Iโ€™m trying to find a place with some sun to go before heading home for xmas
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Morocco or Canarias seem like the best options
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ibhubfyfjuaao Is there a youngish crowd or is it mostly happily retired northern ppl? ๐Ÿ™‚
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fgacgqdh we have a room empty for that time I believe
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unthlhtik I've arrived not 3 days ago. I can't tell. But this is a university town, so I'd imagine so
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South of the island is resorts. Up here it's locals in big city
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shfwirfsn yeah, no retired people in santa cruz. It's a "normal" city. Almost all the tourists go to the south or puerto de la cruz in the north. I spent 4 months there and it was pretty cool. But got the island syndrome after that... ๐Ÿ˜…
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4 months is quite ok for an island syndrome :):)
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I'd never go to Ibiza for nye... that being said, Berlin would be freezing cold, so not sure what's worse lol
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berlin is freezing cold, Ibiza is not too warm as well, both places have very good parties (expect high prices)
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<@U0954DXA5 just arrived in ๐Ÿ Las Palmas, Canary Islands, #spain
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gfiwamzid hey neighbour ๐Ÿ˜„
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just got to my airbnb walletless
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turns out i left it at the bar downstairs ๐Ÿ˜…
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svyfdliygexnw might head to tenerife in a week depending on how things go
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yeah, come on over
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mind you it's rain every day in Santa Cruz right now, but the rest of the island is sunny
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same here
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<@U02SYJFDZ just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Barcelona, #spain
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<@U4V8QN2A3 just arrived in Tenerife, Canary Islands, #spain
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Hola U4V8QN2A3! Bienvenido!
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Hey that's a cool thing, didn't know it did that

Technically I arrive in 4 hours but yes, getting in today!
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<@UD3M8229H just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Barcelona, #spain
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Looks awesome, canโ€™t wait to get there (January)!
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send pics of parque Garcรญa Sanabria, UK9P79GLT!
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ycrqpa I didn't think I was going to get requests, but I'll do my best next time I go that way
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<@U02J3TL0Y just arrived in ๐Ÿ’ƒ Barcelona, #spain
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Thinking about going to Canary Islands in March. How are people finding the island? Is Tenerife the place to be?
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it is absolutely!
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I just moved here not 3 weeks ago
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it's beautiful, the weather is amazing and the island is just paradise
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hit me up before you arrive
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I live in Santa Cruz
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I did I think November in Santa Cruz a couple years ago
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was really nice
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the mercado there is delightful
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