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Can anyone help with my gold card application? Iโ€™m not quite sure what they want from me:

โ€œ1.Please provide the proof of service The employment contract from _NAME OF MY EMPLOYER_ is not an official employment certificate. Please provide the proof of service (signed and stamped by the issuing agencies, which should include the employer who pays your salary during the tax statementโ€™s period) that the applicant has worked domestically or abroad in economy-related industries or fields. โ€

Is that โ€œproof of serviceโ€ some kind of official document I need to apply for, or do they just want a signed letter from my employer that I work in an economics related field?ย 

I appreciate any help ๐Ÿ™‚ โœŒ๏ธ
the latter, I had my my boss write me a signed letter stating my role and the company's industry.
Signature and company chop should do, this gives confidence to the authority that you're actually working in this company and they may contact the company for due diligence
How are things in Taiwan (Taipei specifically) ? I'm thinking of coming back soon (have an ARC and am fully vaxed).. are things getting back to normal now after the recent wave?
In average less than 10 local cases
Less restrictions now (level 2)
Taipei is still relatively more strict than the other provinces
Gotcha whxtdiivklze - do they expect to move into level 1 next month?
The current refined level 2 has just been extended to 23rd Aug. Given the delta variant, seems level 1 is not so easy. Many Gold Card holders hope to just return to previous less restrictive level 2
Thanks David! :blush:
Did you make it to Taiwan yet or you went straight to Georgia from Bali?
Plan to be in Taiwan next year. Yup, in Georgia now, flew back home briefly to the US for the vaccine after Bali
If you have a chance, come and visit!
I was actually considering going there, really want to visit the Stepantsminda area! But then I couldnโ€™t find any flights under 600โ‚ฌ one way so I opted for Spain :slightly_smiling_face:
But maybe later this year!
Hello, does anyone know the rules to work in Taiwan as a freelancer (without a local company) when I already have an APRC? Is that possible? How would I pay labor insurance / health insurance in that case?
The letter turnt out to be very helpful. Just got my approval for the gold visa ๐Ÿ™‚
When do you plan on heading over there?
I think November at the earliest. Also depending on his the situation develops over there.
with an APRC you should be able to work as you wish. As for how to do it without a company Iโ€™d suggest to check with a local freelancer how they do it
I asked my wife, she used to freelance. Iโ€™ll give you the details later
Are Gold Card applications still being processed? Heard vaguely that the delta-variant slowed or stopped the programme.
I know the embassy in Jakarta has stopped processing them for a couple months
The overall process is still ongoing, but some locations in some countries may pause due to local situation. This is for all foreign issues, not Gold Card specifically
I havenโ€™t been able to reach anyone to talk to about the Gold Card processing.
Thatโ€™s a bummer! Not this year I suppose
Before July they were still following up with the necessary steps/docs for folks who already applied, but seems to have stopped entirely at the moment.I got mine approved somewhere in June or so, but then they locked up and canโ€™t use it ๐Ÿ˜…
Thanks for the updates ppl ๐Ÿ™
I was wondering if thereโ€™s a new update for Gold Card holders and I just saw thereโ€™s a notice in the official site, seems for now all is halted until tomorrow theoretically :
```Due to the pandemic, Office Hours will be closed until further notice.

From 7/27 to 9/20, R.O.C. (Taiwan) Overseas Missions will halt the processing of visa applications (including the Passport Inspection Stage of the Gold Cards).```
Yes itโ€™s been this way for a while. Usually the day after they put out an update and it keeps getting extended. So donโ€™t have much hope for September 20th but fingers crossed ๐Ÿคž
pqanmqnv - you're still looking to get verified in Jakarta right?
Ya but itโ€™s not gonna happen. Heading to Bangkok on October 14. So unless they open it on the 4th Iโ€™ll lose it. Maybe they will let me change embassies since they shut everything down. man-shruggingskin-tone-2
bummer, but i'll think they'll allow you to change embassies and get verified in Bangkok for sure
I verified it in Bangkok ssabxnsn was supposed to do it in Spain but covid fucked everything. From my experience Call beforehand, when I arrived there they had no clue what the Gold Card was, neither what they had to do with the printout from the site
The lady shush me away but after insisting they called the person in charge and he took my details and told me heโ€™ll call me the next week or so, he called, asked me a few questions ( 5-10 minutes kind of interview ) and minutes later I got the verification complete step notice in my email
Sweet! Iโ€™ll give it a try. Honestly I donโ€™t even know if itโ€™s still valid. Itโ€™s been sitting in Jakarta for almost 1 year now. Just was too lazy to verify my passport ๐Ÿ˜†
I have no idea ๐Ÿ˜… , I just did it in BKK because I got contacted from the Spanish embassy telling me that there was something like 30-days deadline since the previous step, and I was WUT? Then changed it to BKK via email, visit the embassy, got everything ready, and now cannot use it because the country is closed ๐Ÿ˜‚
When thereโ€™s a hint of re-opening will contact them again to see what to do to enter ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ , in theory you print some permit from their site and with that the airline and immigration allows you inside the country, then you have something like a month to go to the offices there and get your proper card. I just donโ€™t want to print anything to start another countdown
I was getting mixed info. I was told once I did passport verification step I had 30 days to enter Taiwan, but they told me there is no deadline for the passport verification. So I let it sit there. But clearly there has to be some sort of deadline
Take my word with caution I believe the 30-day deadline after passport verification they refer to is if youโ€™re picking up the card outside of Taiwan, if you pick it up inside Taiwan the 30-days deadline counts since you flight in. But Iโ€™m getting a bit of a mix info as well. I didnโ€™t get any further emails from them so not really sure if thereโ€™s a rigid deadline, specially now with all fucked upthinking_face
When I got verified in Jakarta in June, I asked them specifically if I could enter next year, the agent said no problem. Iโ€™m picking up the card inside Taiwan
There is a Facebook group that might have more answers. Unfortunately they only let you in if you are approved. I think because Iโ€™m still at the passport stage they didnโ€™t accept my invite.
That sounds right lvgdpdwtkcow In my mini-interview one of the questions was when I planned to go to Taiwan and I said sometime this winter (which was 5-6 months in the future at the time) and they were perfectly fine with it. I just donโ€™t trust anything that is not on paper ๐Ÿ˜‚
You know the fbk group name USUKM5HT3? Is it `Gold Card Family in Taiwan` ?
Yup thatโ€™s the one
They accepted me in the group. So as per latest update regarding the stuff above, after your passport is already verified:
```You don't need the physical Gold Card to enter Taiwan, even during the pandemic. Just download your Resident Authorization Certificate from the portal and print it in colour. Your airline will need to see this as proof of permission to enter Taiwan, and you'll show it again to the border agent in Taiwan. You may visit the National Immigration Agency to collect your card after the quarantine period (pick-up within 30 days is mandatory).```
So you have 30 days to pick it up, but this just starts after youโ€™re already in the country, not before
interesting how it specifically says '..and print it in color', b/w and you're in trouble lol
๐Ÿ›ฌ znbzednxy just arrived in ๐ŸฅŸ Taipei, #taiwan
:flag-tw:Taiwan preparing for war ๐Ÿ˜ข
lyhlazcap isn't Taiwan...always preparing for war? what's different this time?
if you mean this, China does this every two weeks I feel like
I'm not a geopolitical expert, but it appears to me that China has no good, sensible reason or proper capability to attack Taiwan in the next 10 years.
What it gains:
โ€ข ideological and political points with a domestic audience, I guess
โ€ข maybe some infrastructure down the line, although probably not, I think a lot of it would be blown to smithereens by guerilla fighters
โ€ข a strategic island location once it's under control (could take decades if I'm being optimistic)
What it loses:
โ€ข a shitload of economic cooperation and chip-manufacturing capacity
โ€ข probably a ton of soldiers, since there are like 7 heavily fortified sites where they can land and Taiwan has a pretty developed anti air defense missile system; ferrying people from the mainland would take some crazy logistics anyway; plus half the island is literally a mountain chain, perfect for guerilla warfare
โ€ข economic prosperity as the world would sanction them to shit
โ€ข it would draw America and the western world's ire in general
โ€ข if it's not a quick and overwhelming success, Xi Jinping or whoever else is in charge will be crucified
I don't think they will attack unless they are very, very, very sure of themselves or have some overriding consideration. And we would get advance notice because they need to mass troops before commencing operations.
This is western thinking IMO. Xi is thinking in hundreds of years not 10 years. Communists in general believe in the ends not the means.

What also doesn't make sense is collapsing your free market but it makes sense within a socialist/communist ideology.
I think we are not allowed to discuss that here. ๐Ÿ˜› But ... China's economy isn't a communist economy, let's leave it at that.
(And I don't think realpolitik and personal ambitions are relegated to "Western thinking".)
I wouldn't qualify these arguments as "Western thinking" but although I agree with all you said rfaadeauog , I don't think this is the way the CCP see things. I mean, many wars weren't rational when they started but because of some stupid beliefs, related to "God" mostly but in this case it's more like they want to "rejuvenate" China and avenge themselves after being bullied in the past by western powers (Opium wars, Macau takeover by Portugal, Japanese expansion etc, etc..)
Like, it's irrational for China to crack down on big tech, make billionaire disappear, and kill their own economy through stupid socialist reforms (now leading to the shithole with Evergrande) but they did it anyways
We shouldn't say "China" here but the "CCP"
This is a mission, this was from Xi's speech.
"Resolving the Taiwan question and realizing Chinaโ€™s complete reunification is a historic mission and an unshakable commitment of the Communist Party of China. It is also a shared aspiration of all the sons and daughters of the Chinese nation. We will uphold the one-China principle and the 1992 Consensus, and advance peaceful national reunification. All of us, compatriots on both sides of the Taiwan Strait, must come together and move forward in unison. We must take resolute action to utterly defeat any attempt toward โ€œTaiwan independence,โ€ and work together to create a bright future for national rejuvenation. No one should underestimate the resolve, the will, and the ability of the Chinese people to defend their national sovereignty and territorial integrity."
So I guess it depends on how much he believes in a peaceful national reunification.
America, "One day I hope I am so successful, I don't need to report to anyone."
CCP China, "One day I hope I am so successful, I get to report directly to the CCP"
yeah xD
That's old speech, before high rank officials start making trips to Taiwan, embassy started to open and co lol
Now it's By force if we must
If a war between China and Taiwan were to erupt, it'll be a 3rd world war we'll have here, no doubts about it
So it sounds like more political theatrics more than anything? This is the first time Iโ€™ve heard australia being involved. They had a paratrooper exercise off the coast of Sydney the other week. Not a usual occurrence, Iโ€™m not sure what message they are trying to send ๐Ÿค”
cy22d
Australia is always US follower, no surprise.
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What's the reaction in Taiwan to this?
What do we think the odds are that they extend the pause in gold card passport inspections again nov 1st ๐Ÿ˜…
hmm

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