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auykzvtkox3mo
I use Chasopys when I pass through Kyiv
buovumgqlfhazhq3mo
aajglmzxjuelbwis just arrived in Kiev, #ukraine
sfrmzfrslq2mo
I have 3 so far in 12 months
tdtwovkvwjff2mo
UK passports get 90 days out of 180. That means you can enter and exit as many times as you want, but you can't exceed 90 days in each 180 day period
enurifqidh2mo
Ah I didn't realise it was cumulative
jknmqfkwdq2mo
That's useful to know though - as I'm about to get a fourth stamp
mvrqbxmmkv2mo
As the official flicked through my passport on my way out last time - they smiled and went "You like Ukraine then?"
opbboijdc2mo
ildvghtfwcj gccuhiuoqap A good way to check visa situation is to search for "visa requirements for YOUR_NATIONALITY citizens wikipedia" For example one for UK en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_British_citizens (I use similar page for my nationality to always give a quick glance before going into more research if needed)
kcflgdrsh2mo
tpekgxainht When researching countries to travel I have this Trello task `Check visa requirements en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Lithuanian_citizens AND www.visahq.com/ AND visalist.io/lithuania/all-visas` first start with wikipedia and if it says that visa is not required would not even bother checking other sites, if it's required when gonna check with the other sites to see that they say and usually finish with googling in my own language some keywords related to country and visa
fffxrsili2mo
Yeah, I just do wikipedia page and if it's required visahq page. The last one is just because it looks nice, but not sure if ever used it. I think there is a lot of those visa sites, but for most of them I would kind of be dubious to use just in case creator gave up and they are out of date ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
yqflkaibydeayyu2mo
I was reading a post from someone who over-stayed in Ukraine and it sounds like the penalty isnโ€™t too bad, from 1700 to 5000 UAH depending on your passport country of origin and length of overstay. If anyone is curious about the details let me know and I can copy/paste the post (itโ€™s from a closed FB group).
ltdcdzoxn2mo
I personally always plan things so I'm gone at least few days before my visa runs out (in case something happens you can't make your date). Usually for most countries for short overstays it's just a fee, but don't feel like it's a good strategy to walk on the line
beqmlkaprt2mo
hey
ipfysrdlyu2mo
just wondering how to get rentals for a month or two?
zpwhilofaq2mo
do all nomads just uses airbnb or is there a way to get a house share with locals?
ihkdihe2mo
I did airbnb in Lviv, Kyiv, and Odessa. Dollars go really far so no need to share unless you are trying to save more
aerlvncgnnoizat2mo
booking dot com is fairly popular with locals since they take less of a cut than Airbnb, and I was able to find fully furnished long stay type rentals with it that include laundry units and such. Airbnb is typically better and more geared towards foreigners (in other words more expensive but better support if anything goes awry).
cyaujrwybs2mo
dxfzsoouqwu just arrived in Kiev, #ukraine
vjscgdahlew2mo
Somebody post a picture; I've been missing Kyiv lately blue_heartyellow_heart
dofmpzhzfydkwjw2mo
Iโ€™ve been missing Lviv
tcherqlcux2mo
mfbkbixgeqyv I'll post some pics as I go
cjsoqyirqf2mo
Right now my view is laptop in hotel foyer
ttszgjjlnol2mo
yaaaaay y'all are the best โ˜บ๏ธ
rotpolfokgp2mo
blue_heartheart_eyesyellow_heart
nbsembvblo2mo
Kyiv pretty fog right now
xolnedancau2mo
Yup I definitely need to go back soon
jrtgmcsrb2mo
It's a good place to go back (says someone who is flying to Kiev in 2 weeks) ๐Ÿ˜„
cnoskatvq1mo
npqxzuuhhr just arrived in Kiev, #ukraine
cemvtjgie1mo
Anyone has a gym (for barbell training so basically squats/deadlifts/benchpress) in Kiev for a decent price to recommend? "BODYART / FITNESS" is near me but price is about 15โ‚ฌ for a single day and "Sky Fitness" doesn't even show the prices and says to contact them so that makes me assume the price is like a kidney for a single day ๐Ÿ˜ž
vzgsfakmuln1mo
vilmwvbnhj Sky Fitness is INSANELY expensive. A day pass is $30ish/day. Your best bet is Bodyart. Thatโ€™s where I went and got a week pass for about $50 or so.
vvwxunfbn1mo
Thanks gtkqkklmxrai Yeah, I dislike that "contact us to find the price" so I don't even bother and assume it's not something I will be willing to pay. Gonna walk past Bodyart and see that are my options, I need it only for 2-3 times only.
tgadvmdxmuz1mo
mvhkhmhlhx Yea, from my research when I was there, it was the best option. For some reason compared to other Eastern and Central European countries Kiev had the most expensive options for gyms (which is strange due to the cost of living being one of the lowest in general).
qezcwtwaz1mo
Thanks, yeah, I'm not sure how they can make those prices. Like I found some GoFit or something app which is like 100+ UAH for a single use and combines a bunch of gyms and stuff, but who knows what you will get and don't want to deal with registering for some apps and stuff just so I could go once or twice to gym (especially as recently I don't feel like I will want to go back to Kiev/Ukraine for a while)
dtjaaprsyct1mo
vkrdnzpakv makes sense. I would just bite the bullet for BodyArt.

Tim Ferris talks about something called the โ€œSix Pack Taxโ€ that I live by. Basically he says when you order the more expensive healthy meal at restaurants, call it the โ€œsix pack taxโ€ - The extra price you pay to be healthy. I use that thought process a lot with gyms and restaurants.
tpkbieldd1mo
Makes sense, but I'm not really willing to pay more than 30โ‚ฌ per month for gym, even if I could I just have hard time allowing myself doing that as anything above that to me seems overpriced. I think I seen some jiujitsu place nearby gonna look into them, not the barbell training, but still something I wanted to try and active
neftuzubgwp1mo
Thatโ€™s a solid idea. Always nice to switch up the training. Been doing Muay Thai in Thailand and itโ€™s been awesome.
rfzpeizk1mo
looking for a studio in Kyiv to rent from the middle of January for a couple of months. any FB group or website recommendations to find one?
kyht1mo
Coming to Lviv for the holidays first time in 11 years. Wondered if there are any active nomad communities/telegram channels in the city? Let's meet up for beers in anyone around ;)
whtjy23d
Going to be in Kharkiv April-June. Anyone know a good way to find an apartment to rent besides airbnb/bookingcom?
hukmurgmra23d
I always just use AirBnB there
xggoetmepx23d
I believe one of my staff has just launched a company that does what youโ€™re asking though
ypkwwexxzk23d
I can ask him what it is
xpooi22d
that would be great, thanks, U03DZAFU9!
rljoqcpvdh22d
Coolio will do
hbzgx21d
Thanks byecwnxpe for those, will take a look!
kxkhqmjmcc17d
I believe theyโ€™re launching in London
kcdpdcqo16d
I gotta try
yqcscpvz16d
are any other Ukrainian banks accepting foreigners?
mqzuvahq15d
I briefly scanned the news, looks like for non-resident it's only possible to open Ukrainian bank account for a foreign company not as a private individual
oapgdutb15d
> I believe theyโ€™re launching in London
yeah, I think so. not sure how competitive they will be with Monza and other online banking solutions
izfh14d
I hope the Mono launch in the UK will make transacting in EUR/USD a lot easier and cheaper than it is right now. Another good thing that might stem out of the launch there is higher deposit security requirements, current 10k USD guarantee is a joke comparing to EU 100k EUR ๐Ÿคก
tleytabb13d
anyone around in Kyiv?
zikehahpgvt13d
yes, for a while
rbctoqaigs7d
What about revolut ? Looks similar
ujia6d
I use Revolute when in Asia . But they are even worse than Mono - no deposit security at all, even though they have a banking license
gsqkrgwhb6d
They have a banking license, but don't think they have implemented it yet (taking their time with it). Well I don't have a big problem about it, it just means that until they get that I won't be keeping more than a couple thousand with them
rpbuzdsj6d
yeah, Revolut is kinda not super reliable imo
habwnulr6d
I had it actually when it just opened and then they closed my account as I'm Ukrainian and they decided they will not be operating globally but rather in some countries
wfxbofir6d
but anyway, apart from that, the way they communicate and the way they develop their product doesn't look very appealing to me
betfkwrm6d
I also interviewed with them for a remote role but then they decided they will not be doing remote ๐Ÿ™‚
oomeywtn6d
looks to me like they are young and energetic and sometimes pulling in quite different directions
kfqrzssoga6d
They are exceptionally fast at delivery
gdvjbylcwe6d
They withdrew support for Ukraine around the time they got in a load of shit with the FCA for not having their AML systems on
hrgouklxgs6d
I donโ€™t know if the events are linked but itโ€™s likely
qgeapgfybh6d
I personally donโ€™t keep significant money in ANY challenger bank
ojtlewjroc6d
Iโ€™m quite happy to use old school proven banking infrastructure for money that doesnโ€™t move
iugsdvmmup6d
Then leverage the benefits of new banks to move money
jdbzdacttj6d
Not sure how financially viable that makes challenger banks if everyone does that though
ztsvpncvr5d
Other than couple of times per year they have problems accepting payments (sometimes those times are even informed before telling you to have alternative choice for payment) didn't have any problems with their reliability
qcpi5d
This has turned into a #_money talk all of a sudden ๐Ÿ˜ฌ Anyways. I think having/using Mono when in Ukraine is quite convenient as they don't rip you off on the exchange rate (Revolute has a crazy one of Hryvnia) also Privat account is good if you plan to use public services for QR payments. But if you are coming with a standard foreign card and don't want the hassle, the best way I think is just getting the money from the ATM or doing a cash advance in the Bank usually around 1% fee.
gaga5d
Have a friend working at Revolute, she said Ukraine is nowhere on their roadmap to be properly supported
vbsw5d
Anybody plan to spend the summer in Lviv / Kyiv this year?
nhhrauqoalcrtbk4d
Iโ€™ll probably be in Lviv late May through June. Lviv has become one of my favorite cities (and by far my fav in Ukraine)
ptybcvio4d
I'm in and out of the country year round
gimpracq9h
i'm in Kyiv
phbausco9h
Lviv is fun yeah
brdgjurt9h
new cool place in lviv 5th Dungeon
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