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> but is there a tendency for locals to leave the city during the summer?
I think there's
Same, though I donโ€™t go to the beaches, but thereโ€™s plenty to do on the water kayaking, paddle board, wakeboard, wakesurf, etc.
And most of the good events are organized in the summer.
Thanks, likely cooler with mountains/nature so sounds like Lvivโ€ฆ
food scene is also very cool in Lviv and the center feels more like Europe than Eastern Ukrainer (if you stare in there)
it's still a big'ish city so for mountains it would be a 2-3 hours drive away
yes, traffic in summer is smaller:) and yoou can visit Carpatheans if you want too get closer to the nature
For me it's just any time that it isn't freezing. I'm in Greece right now but want to avoid the high tourist season here mid July through August as much as possible
Hey guys. I might be moving to Kiev in a month or so.

Does anyone know any specific apartment buildings or areas that are recommended to live in? Looking for a nice apartment maybe up to $2,000 per month, with a view of nature or the river.

And should I try to land there and rent a place from a local in cash? Or is Airbnb the only real option?
For $2000 you can rent a very good apartment here. If you want parties, then suggested area is around Golden Gates, particularly Reitarska street. Itโ€™s city center, hip area. Coworkings, best restaurants, cafes are here.

If you want live around rich in new buildings, then you might like Pechersk. But itโ€™s kind of boring for me.

Another good area is Obolon, Heroiv Stalinhrada Avenue (I live here). Thereโ€™s a river, good park, good gyms, but no good restaurants, cafes, and coworkings. Also, city center is far away from here.

Long story short, I would recommend Golden Gates area.
Also, avoid Khreshatyk and Podil.
About renting options, Airbnb is the best for staying short term. I donโ€™t recommend paying by cash, you can get scammed.
Thanks so much! Super helpful.

How about transport? Iโ€™d prefer to have my own transport like a car or motorbike, even though I know public transport is cheap there. Thoughts?
Sixt is the best option
You can also use an electric scooter to get around, very convenient and cheap. Bird, Bolt, Bikenow
Nice one! Thanks
Make sure to ask airbnb host about car parking options. Kyiv has some problems with it ๐Ÿ˜„
If you plan to move for a long term, you would be able to find much cheaper options from a local in cash, but itโ€™s better to start with Airbnb.
Golden Gate district is good indeed. I would recommend around Peizazhna Alley for more nature.
For the car rental options โ€“ there is also a carsharing Getmancar.
Hey guys, just landed here over the weekend. City is pretty cool and I'm looking forward to exploring.

I picked up on the Tinder date/dinner scam pretty fast - girls trying to take you to restaurants that overcharge by hundreds of dollars or restaurants that give them commissions for bringing in someone and then running a very high bill.
What I can't figure out is some girls asking to meet on the street (in a popular area) and then we can "walk around and find a bar to go to."
Are they just trying to take me to a place where they overcharge/give girls commissions? Don't mind paying for dates or anything, just trying to be vigilant of scams here
> Are they just trying to take me to a place where they overcharge/give girls commissions
Iโ€™m a local never heard of anything like this. Maybe you should try to pick a place before a date, instead of them?
Yeah at first I figured I'd trust someone who knows the city better than me but when I heard of these restaurants I started picking the places. I learned from a couple nomads about this so I started investigating.
It's a pretty sophisticated system. There's an app called "Femme Fatale" that the girls create an account on, they see all the restaurants offering cashback and then suggest those to their dates.
Pretty wild stuff. Take a look on YouTube, some expats/nomads have made some videos on it
Of course paying for a nice dinner is no big deal but when your date's goal is to make the bill as high as possible so she can get a % of it - then that's not going to be a fun time
Thanks for sharing. What you described is very common in a strip club. The thing they developed an app for this is the whole new level.
Has anyone heard about being able to overstay the 90-day tourist visa during quarantine?
A friend told me about this but I havenโ€™t find any info in a official website
thereโ€™s a Russian idiom โ€œะฝะต ะฝะฐะตะฑะตัˆัŒ ะฝะต ะฟั€ะพะถะธะฒะตัˆัŒโ€œ. in English it literally means โ€œif you donโ€™t fuck people over, you donโ€™t surviveโ€. perfectly fits here
Funny you were talking about scams. The company that was trying to hire my girlfriend turned out to be selling investing scams. So turns out I wonโ€™t be moving to Ukraine anytime soon ๐Ÿคฃ
Investing scams are very popular here. But in general Kyiv is very safe, donโ€™t be afraid ๐Ÿ˜„
here is the list of restaurants participating in this scheme
bhuftdrkbqgc iymemugkpr how does the app actually work? from a product/user experience perspective, canโ€™t help myself, work damage ๐Ÿ˜‚ so you are at a restaurant with a โ€œdateโ€ and at some point she will say โ€œhey let me check-in with this app so we get a discount?โ€ and then you ask โ€œoh what app is that?โ€œโ€ฆ femme fatale ๐Ÿ˜„
mwlrjsmqpkkau the girl needs to share her personal code with the waiter. I doubt itโ€™s hard to do given her date does not speak local language. She can even book the place with her personal number.
ah forgot the language barrier, yeah that makes it easy to do the checkin, although human error prone
And yea, Iโ€™ve downloaded the app, whoโ€™s up for a date here? ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
hahaha used google translate for your screenshots, this level of sophistication for the scam is hilarious. And sorry Iโ€™ll pass, not in Kiev anymore ๐Ÿ˜‚
I would avoid any of those restaurants even if I didnโ€™t know about this system, there are much better places to visit
ymjevrflaygp I'd 100% go if you demand cashback from the restaurant.
looks like we got a handful of nomads here at the moment - you guys interested in getting together and grabbing some drinks?
This dinner scam thing is the best thing I've read in months. God bless Slavic women. ๐Ÿ˜‚
good idea, for how long are you staying here UL685AT9T?
Only until July 5 but I'm on leave from work so available literally whenever.
Let me know if an evening works for you sfagxbugzrvq and we'll throw a date in the channel
My tinder must give off "clueless foreigner" vibes
Be safe out there guys!
I would be so tempted to just go along with the whole thing, and then say we're splitting the bill at the end
My friend met a girl from Tinder and she suggested the meeting point. When he arrived, the girl had a fake gun and was accompanied by a guy and anther girl. My friend punched guy in face and run away.

These are red flags:
If the girl suggests very fast to meet.
If the girl wants to change very fast to whatsapp
If girl has no Instagram
If girl wants to go to a hookah bar or restaurant of her choice.
Oh man that's definitely scary. Yeah I've been getting used to checking for instagram as a quick filter on possible issues.
Also guys, anyone want to grab some drinks this week? Vote below on dates
Wed, June 30
Fri, July 2
Sat, July 3
Some scam girls also have IG. It's a 2nd IG they use just for this
i've heard the dating scam is also quite popular in tbilisi, georgia ๐Ÿ˜„
You have to be careful in Ukraine ๐Ÿ˜…
Looks like we got the most interest for tomorrow. How does 1700-1800 sound (as the game starts at 2200)?
Also if there's any suggestions on places lmk
๐Ÿ›ฌ yevtkeujzee just arrived in ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Kyiv, #ukraine
Is everything open normally in Ukraine right now?
yep, pretty much
vxofivtdjohw awesome, thank you
I will arrive at Kiev Airport tomorrow night(11:45PM) Is the midnight transfer to the city currently operating normally?
Uber, bolt and uklon work 24/7
What transfer are you talking about?
bdomhied Thank you for reply quickly!
I confirmed that some countries have late-night restrictions. I use a taxi :)
There are almost no restrictions at all in ukraine.
Mind the fact that Uber/bolt/etc should be called to the departures entrance (the upper floor). Arrivals area (ground floor) has a restricted access to airport taxis only, which are overpriced. This is typical nowadays for many airports around the world.
And welcome to Ukraine!:)
> Mind the fact that Uber/bolt/etc should be called to the departures entrance (the upper floor).
It's only for Boryspil airport (KBP). For Kiev (IEV) no problems for calling uber just to the airports doors
You are right, KBP is the just the default option for me:)
speaking of which, I much prefer IEV due to its compactness and proximity to the city
Hey gang! I'm looking for a good gym in central Lviv that allows monthly subscription. Any recommendations? Would be great if they had a dedicated cycling training. Thaaaanks!
Hey Naz, I really liked Eurosport from the options that are available in the city. You may want to check it out
Check sportlife. Now it has monthly subscriptions
Thanks! Will check them out
Hey all, I'm aiming to come to Kiev in August. Any recommendations for which area to get an Airbnb in?
Hi! City center, Podil, Pechersk are the best options.
Golden gate or Park Shevchenko areas are nice
Long shot buuuut any chance of foreigners considered tourists being able to get a vaccine in August / September in Kiev?
I don't think that it's possible. Only if you have residence permission.
Has anyone rented a car in Lviv and driven around the Carpathians? Howโ€™s the road quality down there?
Curious if anyone has entered Ukraine recently and if they had to have travel insurance from a Ukrainian company?

I saw that on the Ukraine website. I currently use SafetyWing travel insurance.
I just showed them the health now card in my iPhone wallet and joked that if it isnโ€™t good enough I have travel endurance on my master card. The passport control smiled and was cool about that.
Did the above for Kiev in may and again in Odessa airport about a month ago
Main roads in a good quality
Looks like entry rules are going to be changing soon for Ukraine if on a tourist visa, either full vaccination or negative PCR or antigen test results done no less than 72 hours before entry
Cheers thanks!
can 2nd dose be counted as full vaccination?
yes, it is
oigfkxq thanks for headsup! do they check the insurance they require as well?
jylojzko in most of the countries you are considered as fully vaccinated 2 weeks after the second jab..
Iโ€™m guessing theyโ€™ll also check for insurance along with the vaccination or PRC test (which I believe theyโ€™ve been doing up until now). Does anyone have a recommendation for which Covid insurance to use in Ukraine?
Hey weiwuaw just tried to add a recommendation but apparently we can't share links or perhaps can't share insurance stuff for some reason?
Full disclosure I'm going tmw and haven't tested this.

I'm assuming it's fine bc it covers covid and is a Ukrainian company
Cool, let us know how it goes ๐Ÿ™‚
Looks like itโ€™s affiliated with Ukrainian International Airlines so a good bet that itโ€™s been vetted
The FlyUIA insurance worked weezdex
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