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Hey all. Iโ€™m arriving in Kyiv tomorrow. After traveling for a week I plan to park in Kyiv for 2 months (maybe longer). Iโ€™ve visited many times, so I know my way around the city. My Russian is meh, but not zero. I do know locals there that can help me with things. What is your experience with renting apartments? Do you use airbnb or figure out how to actually rent a place? Is it possible to get a reasonable month to month kinda deal?
Iโ€™ve only AirBnBโ€™d short term
Yeah for now Iโ€™ll be doing airbnb/booking, not too pricey with soon to be falling demand.
I'm probably the last arrival
yeah, given latest news travel becomes really impossible
on the 17th Ukraine is closing passenger air traffic
looks like railway is still open though
I guess good thing I decided to wait until booking my flight and airbnb
Railway only open inbound to citizens I believe
yeah, international railway to/from Ukraine is closing tomorrow everywhere as well as international buses
there's a list of designated points to enter/leave using "personal transport"
I guess a car/taxi through the border will be the only way to leave/enter in the next two weeks (I hope it's two and not more)
internal transportation works at the moment
AFIK borders are closed to all non-citizens at this point.
So if someone who right now in Ukraine needs help - write here or DM
I heard rumors of restricting travel between Oblasts? Can anyone confirm? I had no issue going from Dragobrat (Zarkopatta) to Bukovel (Ivano-Frankivsk) in a taxi. Next week I plan to return to Kyiv to hunker down. AFIK Bla Bla car is the best option.
private cars are not checked, buses and trains got cancelled
I'd say bla bla car is pretty much the only choice
it seems Kiyv is officially entering into emergency state today
In what sense?
Like, literal State of Emergency
anyone here riding this out in ukraine?
i was planning on staying here, but they've been opening some flights out this week and now I'm torn
I'm at home in Kyiv right now, given the circumstances gonna stay put for some time
any recommendations for a visible foreigner that doesn't speak russian ๐Ÿ™‚
I can fly out on weds but would have to go through JFK and 20h travel to do so, not excited about that
heh, gosh it's hard and really depends on case by case basis
on one hand medicine in Ukraine is not great, on the other hand I'm not too excited about us clinics either and it's just incredibly expensive
ah, so you're from canada ๐Ÿ™‚ don't know about canadian health care much
uia used to have direct flights to toronto but I'm pretty sure it's suspended right now
yeah my embassy is trying to put together a flight to toronto
canadian health care is okay
but free
so easy access
but ridiculously over capacity
i guess i'm more worried about personal safety if people aren't allowed to work for a month or two
i've been in some countries where I would have noped out of there day 1 of any lockdown announcement, but I don't understand the situation here well enough ๐Ÿ˜ž
should be fine, police is very active right now and it was fine even during revolutions of 2008 and 2014
stay safe!
that is good to know ๐Ÿ™‚ Thank you ๐Ÿ™
It seems like healthcare in every country is going to be completely overwhelmed for a matter of months no matter where you are in the world, which means if you have to go to the hospital for any reason youโ€™ll probably be screwed, whether that be Canada or Ukraine -- so I wouldnโ€™t factor that in your decision.
I did make it no problem from Bukovel to Kyiv yesterday by bla bla car. It was super beautiful but eerie there in quarentine but still working Ski resort. Iโ€™m waiting it out here in Kyiv. If need be, I have a ticket back to Estonia (ghost-residency) and USA (Iโ€™d never go back in this kind of crisis). This was my intended destination, I know many people here from startups and conferences, so Iโ€™m happy even under lockdown.

But yeah, Iโ€™d suggest to go somewhere comfortable because itโ€™s probably gonna be a long rideโ€ฆ
I didn't know Bukovel wasn't closed, super weird ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
Do y'all think quarantine will be extended? supposed to finish the 3rd of April but seems like things getting worse.
yeah, I think it will. number of cases is only going to increase
if they were so harsh from the start I do not see any reason to relax restrictions when things get worse
however I hope ability to move inside the country on personal transport will not be cut
extension confirmed
heh, yeah
yeah the infection rate spiked from all the returning flights after they closed the borders
they didn't quarantine returners it sounds like ๐Ÿ˜…
yeah, things are often very disorganized in Ukraine
first flights folks were supposed to self-quarantine but no one told them officially
now they make all returning people to sign a form
but there were some cases when they were providing invalid data or disappearing facepalm
I think we're bound to get stricter orders, like not leaving the house outside of predefined list of reasons, that was already mandated in Sumy region yesterday, I expect other regions will adopt this practice as well (also, Sumy region doesn't allow folks who do not have registration / property in Sumy in)
yes, seems like this
that's a good point
I'm gonna move to a more comfortable accommodation before that happens -_-
On a positive note, month long airbnb prices were rock bottom a week ago. I took one for a month in Kyiv and surviving off of weekly trips to Auchan. ๐Ÿ™‚
yeah, my Airbnb host offered me a half-price discount for April too ๐Ÿ™‚
in case it might be useful to anyone in Kyiv glovo ubereats raketa() are doing deliveries from restaurants but many has built their own apps, it's possible to do it without human contact as well; groceries are delivered by| (almost always booked at the moment, works with auchan, metro, etc.)| also rozetka (but assortment there is rather limited)
Thanks, I didnโ€™t know about Raketa.
yeah, the problem with uber eats and glovo is high commission, so many quite good restaurants have actually there own separate delivery services, like one example is
kuwxil just arrived in Kharkiv, #ukraine
The possibilities are endless ๐Ÿ™‚
Hello, has anybody being to Carpathians in Ukraine? If so please share your favorite places
jfmdik welcome! Itโ€™s not that many things to do in Kharkiv right now ๐Ÿ™‚
Hi tnvtoqsirle Iโ€™m actually not here right now, got COVID grounded! But still will come when this is all over
Are you living there?
Yeah, may suggest nice places and stuff
qdjohi take care
> Hello, has anybody being to Carpathians in Ukraine? If so please share your favorite places
Sinevir lake is nice, we also used to do Hoverla run each summer and walking along the ridge to Pop Ivan during couple of days
I was due to be in Kharkiv again
heh yeah it's terrible in here ๐Ÿ˜ข
and as the nw wind continues I think it will be like that for a couple more days
have anybody even seen levels like that before?
If you look at the map, youโ€™ll see the measurements vary by location, sometimes widely (Iโ€™m curious where they come from). But yeah, itโ€™s not great here while these fires rage and these winds from North and Northwest. But hey, we all have masks right? ๐Ÿ˜…
bought air purifier today, looks like they are in short supply ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
my wife actually insisted this morning we move to Sumy or Chernihiv for a while
Does anybody know what the current border situation is for Ukraine? A friend is looking at going from the Netherlands to Ukraine to her family, and was wondering whether she would be allowed, and would have to quarantine herself.
Ukrainian nationals are allowed to enter by land (not all crossing points are open) but have to self-quarantine for 14 days with a mobile app that does random checks
olllyqnco thanks a lot! She does not have a Ukrainian passport anymore though, any idea whether she could still enter?
only if she has PR, otherwise not at the moment, but I think things are bound to change in June/July
What is PR?
permanent residency
Thanks a lot!
I was reading that the moment other countries like EU allow that ukrainians can enter, that ukraine will open borders for foreigners too
yeah, that looks like it'll happen mid-June
Yup. Just an FYI for the group here. I was in a pickle since my visa free time expires on June 5th and my May 29th flight was cancelled. Next flight to Tallinn is June 17th (I really want to spend summer in the Baltics). Obviously I didnโ€™t take any repatriation flights. My Ukrainian friend called for me, inquiring about the official extension process (link below, but not posted because of stupid nomadlist restrictions, google _โ€œExtending the duration of stay on the territory of Ukraineโ€_). They are not working. They said I shouldnโ€™t be penalized much for overstaying a bit, other than the fine. Anyway, letโ€™s see what happens come June 17th. ๐Ÿ˜…
(should have stayed in Baltics where I have residency facepalm )
fjpgqsydna Well summer (at least in Lithuania) sucks so far so you are not losing anything as related to good weather ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
Hahaha. Letโ€™s not play the weather game. Itโ€™s been colder in Kyiv than Tallinn for the last two weeks. ๐Ÿ˜„ I actually plan to buy a car in Estonia and explore the Baltics. Iโ€™ll give you a ring if Iโ€™m in the area.
I'm waiting on a better weather and maybe will try an experiment of traveling around baltic states on my motorcycle (as it's free movement between them) ๐Ÿ˜„
Sounds like an awesome plan! Iโ€™ve never tried riding a motorcycle. ๐Ÿ™ˆ
I did hear that visa restrictions are suspended
since flights are closed down and whatnot
Haha. Thatโ€™s good to hear. Well. I decide to get back to Estonia as soon as possible and trying my luck with Kyiv -> Munich -> Helsinki -> Tallinn on Monday. Iโ€™ll let you know how it goes. ๐Ÿ™‚
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