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Hi folks :wave:

Was wondering how it's the situation at the Polish & Ukrainian border right now? Are they accepting tourist? What's the approximate waiting time? Furthermore, how it's the situation in Kyiv? I kept with the news on daily basic & read on Reddit/Telegram, but I wonder if somebody can give me another perspective.
geoibmmbdcwegodu Are we talking about entering or leaving Ukraine?

As far as I know there is no problem with border, you can leave Ukraine if youโ€™re not man in 18-60. And you can enter Ukraine easily, however not sure about tourists.

Kyiv is okaish according to friends and relatives (Iโ€™m from Kyiv). There are still lots of soldiers and checkpoints, but more and more people return back. Cafes & businesses started working again. Huge problem now is lack of fuel, and also air alarms are annoying.
Last rocket strike that hit civilians was about a week ago.

If youโ€™re thinking about traveling to Kyiv, I wouldnโ€™t recommend it.
> Was wondering how it's the situation at the Polish & Ukrainian border right now? Are they accepting tourist? What's the approximate waiting time?
yes, you can enter and go. if you're not Ukrainian citizen you'll be able to leave (18-60 rule applies only to Ukrainian citizens). I don't know what are the lines but if you take a train across the border I don't think there would be any wait time
> Furthermore, how it's the situation in Kyiv?
it's fine here, Spring time. there are fuel shortages but if you don't have a car that is unlikely to affect you. also, there's a danger of air strikes all across Ukraine, chances that you would be hit are small but not 0 as russia is using outdated less precise soviet time rockets and last couple of times they were striking some random targets ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ if you'd go to bomb shelter each time you hear air alert I'd say chances of dying in Lviv / Kyiv are 0 but as alerts often sound multiple times a day and at often at night not many people are going to bomb shelter each time
Thanks for your reply huvgrxxdxwy Yes, I meant to enter Ukraine. I was there last August & I'll probably go back in the coming months. I'm trying to gather all information possible to remain as safe as I can be.

I got some other questions, if you don't mind:

โ€ข Is Airbnb my best option for accommodations? Do many homes in Ukraine have shelters or mostly Ukrainians are using shelter locations through out the city?
โ€ข I got a bare minimum of spoken Russian which allowed me to communicate a bit last time. I am planning to study a bit more to be more prepared. My question is, should I learn Ukrainian instead or Russian would do?
โ€ข What's the best way to move around? Last time I used the subway & regular buses. I guess I can use Uber if it's operational or rent a electric vehicle?
โ€ข Finally, what kind of items should I bring into the country that it's needed there? Medicines? Or better to not bring anything & support local business instead?
Thanks for your detailed answer geftwcnmh ๐Ÿ™ I'll post nomadlist.slack.com/archives/C031AUV10/p1652372135277169?thread_ts=1652333587.362229&cid=C031AUV10|my reply above> which it's pertinent. Let me know if you got any insights about my questions.
Just wanted to add my 5 cents:
1. It depends on duration of your stay, but Airbnb should be fine. You can check with the host if they have proper shelter in the building, how far is metro station/underground parking (to hide there)
2. Even those people who usually spoke Russian are switching to Ukrainian now (not all, but many). You are foreigner, so no one would say anything if you speak Russian. But if you will start learning Ukrainian - that will definitely be appreciated more by people around
3. Buses, metro and Uber are working fine.
4. If you are planning to go to Kyiv - you will find anything (correct me someone if I am wrong)
I'm curious are you a dark tourist? Why choose Kyiv during a state of emergency with missile strikes?
western ukraine is quite booked right now with internally displaced folks, it's easy to find places in Kyiv; you can use airbnbs but you probably should expect to pay more than usual. alternative is to hire a real estate agent, they could find you options but they'll charge commission. anyway, this way you can get good flats in Ivano-Frankivsk - Lviv for 500-1000$ a month + 250-300$ commission for real estate agent + 500-1000$ for the last month of your rent + whatever utilities are (~100$ a month). if you do only single month than payment for the last month would be held as a guarantee. might still be cheaper than airbnb although a bit more hassle. on other points I agree with Tetiana
> Finally, what kind of items should I bring into the country that it's needed there? Medicines? Or better to not bring anything & support local business instead?
supporting local businesses is always appreciated. what is needed and you could bring along could be found here ua-aid-centers.com/lists mostly military / tactical gear + military meds like hemostatics, wound care etc.
please let me know if any questions ๐Ÿ™‚
Not at all man. I got some personal business that will require my presence there for a few months. That's all.
twzimgzeaostuo thanks for your insightful reply.

> You can check with the host if they have proper shelter in the building, how far is metro
That's good to know. I was worried that I need to move to a centralized, specific locations spread throughout the city. I'll make sure to get all details with the host.

> But if you will start learning Ukrainian - that will definitely be appreciated more by people around
That's what I thought. I'll try to start learning Ukrainian then. At least, for the most basic, daily conversations.
ptdungjtz thank you so much for all your detail answers ๐Ÿ™‚ I really appreciate it!

> Ivano-Frankivsk - Lviv for 500-1000$ a month + 250-300$ commission for real estate agent + 500-1000$ for the last month of your rent + whatever utilities are (~100$ a month).
That's a really good deal, I didn't think about a real state agent. Will need to compare with Airbnb and as you mentioned calculated the hassle as well.

> supporting local businesses is always appreciated. what is needed and you could bring along could be found here.. mostly military / tactical gear + military meds like hemostatic, wound care etc.
Yes, I want to give back to the community during my stay! Will check the website, I need to check with military items won't get me in trouble transporting with me while being Poland.

I'm planning to get there in coming months so maybe we'll be lucky & Ukraine can kick the invaders out & reach peace.

Out of curiosity ubtusbkip niietynyjdmcay you guys currently in Ukraine? ๐Ÿค” We might meet in person one day ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ :muscle:

EDIT Just checked channel history & realized you're in Western Ukraine Borowis ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’›
xnrcjkqvwtlmvmqe I am in Kyiv now, hard to say how long I will stay here, because it's really hard to plan life atm ๐Ÿ˜„ Ping me when you will be here - maybe we can meet ๐Ÿ™Œ
I'm also in Kyiv ๐Ÿ™Œ
kxanhlorqsp I think you mean war tourist. Dark tourism is for historical sites associated with death like Ground Zero or Auschwitz and is not considered harmful.
hi fellow Ukrainians!

do you know if it is possible now to get an apostille for my birth certificate? did you try to do this in the last couple months?
hey ๐Ÿ‘‹ I guess it should be possible but didn't try to. There are agencies that offer this service in Kyiv, so you might want to call / message them and ask
for example, burotranslate.com.ua/contacts burotranslate.com.ua/servicesapostillelegalization (I used them in the past and they were fast and friendly) but of course there's a ton of other options. I guess if they can do that you can mail documents in, they will do everything and mail them back to you
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