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jadznomdv3mo
Hey all. Iโ€™m arriving in Kyiv tomorrow. After traveling for a week I plan to park in Kyiv for 2 months (maybe longer). Iโ€™ve visited many times, so I know my way around the city. My Russian is meh, but not zero. I do know locals there that can help me with things. What is your experience with renting apartments? Do you use airbnb or figure out how to actually rent a place? Is it possible to get a reasonable month to month kinda deal?
bbbtzrsinn3mo
Iโ€™ve only AirBnBโ€™d short term
akcszilqv3mo
Yeah for now Iโ€™ll be doing airbnb/booking, not too pricey with soon to be falling demand.
gqcvwxvvw3mo
I'm probably the last arrival
yomfisej3mo
yeah, given latest news travel becomes really impossible
ukfikzae3mo
on the 17th Ukraine is closing passenger air traffic
hugvgiqn3mo
looks like railway is still open though
cdkfrqjca3mo
I guess good thing I decided to wait until booking my flight and airbnb
yamuslnhka3mo
Railway only open inbound to citizens I believe
xpiivlnw3mo
yeah, international railway to/from Ukraine is closing tomorrow everywhere as well as international buses
vikyhmgt3mo
there's a list of designated points to enter/leave using "personal transport"
grlieafg3mo
I guess a car/taxi through the border will be the only way to leave/enter in the next two weeks (I hope it's two and not more)
vflebvcs3mo
internal transportation works at the moment
ncjmxelrg3mo
AFIK borders are closed to all non-citizens at this point.
ijtbvqkylq2mo
Yes,
So if someone who right now in Ukraine needs help - write here or DM
pmmraqdmh2mo
I heard rumors of restricting travel between Oblasts? Can anyone confirm? I had no issue going from Dragobrat (Zarkopatta) to Bukovel (Ivano-Frankivsk) in a taxi. Next week I plan to return to Kyiv to hunker down. AFIK Bla Bla car is the best option.
dzwsoaxo2mo
private cars are not checked, buses and trains got cancelled
ispypgnd2mo
I'd say bla bla car is pretty much the only choice
guhddyfyooo2mo
it seems Kiyv is officially entering into emergency state today
nqmtofzsdd2mo
In what sense?
gpavyrnwdtb2mo
Like, literal State of Emergency
xniyrtdyv2mo
anyone here riding this out in ukraine?
incoqaitg2mo
i was planning on staying here, but they've been opening some flights out this week and now I'm torn
pvkzlkto2mo
I'm at home in Kyiv right now, given the circumstances gonna stay put for some time
bpkzmtyzr2mo
any recommendations for a visible foreigner that doesn't speak russian ๐Ÿ™‚
prsmcyoiu2mo
I can fly out on weds but would have to go through JFK and 20h travel to do so, not excited about that
zvreofnj2mo
heh, gosh it's hard and really depends on case by case basis
jpqjiegy2mo
on one hand medicine in Ukraine is not great, on the other hand I'm not too excited about us clinics either and it's just incredibly expensive
stfsgohl2mo
ah, so you're from canada ๐Ÿ™‚ don't know about canadian health care much
mszwhtat2mo
uia used to have direct flights to toronto but I'm pretty sure it's suspended right now
wipdisxrt2mo
yeah my embassy is trying to put together a flight to toronto
tkzvintlc2mo
canadian health care is okay
but free
so easy access
but ridiculously over capacity
zqbnjemyk2mo
i guess i'm more worried about personal safety if people aren't allowed to work for a month or two
pbclubgun2mo
i've been in some countries where I would have noped out of there day 1 of any lockdown announcement, but I don't understand the situation here well enough ๐Ÿ˜ž
ucboqqly2mo
should be fine, police is very active right now and it was fine even during revolutions of 2008 and 2014
pyniozgw2mo
stay safe!
mshoyznjv2mo
that is good to know ๐Ÿ™‚ Thank you ๐Ÿ™
umgytzuudufqfbt2mo
It seems like healthcare in every country is going to be completely overwhelmed for a matter of months no matter where you are in the world, which means if you have to go to the hospital for any reason youโ€™ll probably be screwed, whether that be Canada or Ukraine -- so I wouldnโ€™t factor that in your decision.
giquqqaak2mo
I did make it no problem from Bukovel to Kyiv yesterday by bla bla car. It was super beautiful but eerie there in quarentine but still working Ski resort. Iโ€™m waiting it out here in Kyiv. If need be, I have a ticket back to Estonia (ghost-residency) and USA (Iโ€™d never go back in this kind of crisis). This was my intended destination, I know many people here from startups and conferences, so Iโ€™m happy even under lockdown.

But yeah, Iโ€™d suggest to go somewhere comfortable because itโ€™s probably gonna be a long rideโ€ฆ
hggsfmwz2mo
I didn't know Bukovel wasn't closed, super weird ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
xqmzixth2mo
Do y'all think quarantine will be extended? supposed to finish the 3rd of April but seems like things getting worse.
kaphmyyc2mo
yeah, I think it will. number of cases is only going to increase
xgcftkkg2mo
if they were so harsh from the start I do not see any reason to relax restrictions when things get worse
xuereikg2mo
however I hope ability to move inside the country on personal transport will not be cut
kqeogwyt2mo
extension confirmed
qcvabeje2mo
heh, yeah
jrvaijyuj2mo
yeah the infection rate spiked from all the returning flights after they closed the borders
erdybfabq2mo
they didn't quarantine returners it sounds like ๐Ÿ˜…
sxwqutvw2mo
yeah, things are often very disorganized in Ukraine
btbyfasi2mo
first flights folks were supposed to self-quarantine but no one told them officially
mhyytjcr2mo
now they make all returning people to sign a form
jvdzworr2mo
but there were some cases when they were providing invalid data or disappearing facepalm
ubplzqsg2mo
I think we're bound to get stricter orders, like not leaving the house outside of predefined list of reasons, that was already mandated in Sumy region yesterday, I expect other regions will adopt this practice as well (also, Sumy region doesn't allow folks who do not have registration / property in Sumy in)
oprqsekcpzp2mo
yes, seems like this
tvbhwzcvu2mo
that's a good point
I'm gonna move to a more comfortable accommodation before that happens -_-
vvskwjshv2mo
On a positive note, month long airbnb prices were rock bottom a week ago. I took one for a month in Kyiv and surviving off of weekly trips to Auchan. ๐Ÿ™‚
kphazdnn2mo
yeah, my Airbnb host offered me a half-price discount for April too ๐Ÿ™‚
yychbbtw2mo
in case it might be useful to anyone in Kyiv glovo ubereats raketa() are doing deliveries from restaurants but many has built their own apps, it's possible to do it without human contact as well; groceries are delivered by zakaz.ua|zakaz.ua (almost always booked at the moment, works with auchan, metro, etc.) vova.ua|vova.ua produktoff.com/ also rozetka rozetka.com.ua/alkoholnie-napitki-i-produkty/c4626923/ (but assortment there is rather limited)
rwtuwrqam2mo
Thanks, I didnโ€™t know about Raketa.
osaddatf2mo
yeah, the problem with uber eats and glovo is high commission, so many quite good restaurants have actually there own separate delivery services, like one example is borysov.com.ua/uk/delivery
fjfbq2mo
kuwxil just arrived in Kharkiv, #ukraine
hrqrpnepb2mo
The possibilities are endless ๐Ÿ™‚
vtoynwnvt2mo
Hello, has anybody being to Carpathians in Ukraine? If so please share your favorite places
rspngnvytd2mo
jfmdik welcome! Itโ€™s not that many things to do in Kharkiv right now ๐Ÿ™‚
stuze2mo
Hi tnvtoqsirle Iโ€™m actually not here right now, got COVID grounded! But still will come when this is all over
itmlo2mo
Are you living there?
xjvkpaocmd2mo
Yeah, may suggest nice places and stuff
gxyjvnuugb2mo
qdjohi take care
jhbdirao2mo
> Hello, has anybody being to Carpathians in Ukraine? If so please share your favorite places
Sinevir lake is nice, we also used to do Hoverla run each summer and walking along the ridge to Pop Ivan during couple of days
brhcrhzobl2mo
I was due to be in Kharkiv again
kjnhsamv1mo
heh yeah it's terrible in here ๐Ÿ˜ข
rzwgvemj1mo
and as the nw wind continues I think it will be like that for a couple more days
wjofrkhlha1mo
ikky
hpzlggdphvl1mo
have anybody even seen levels like that before?
oramlmvgs1mo
If you look at the map, youโ€™ll see the measurements vary by location, sometimes widely (Iโ€™m curious where they come from). But yeah, itโ€™s not great here while these fires rage and these winds from North and Northwest. But hey, we all have masks right? ๐Ÿ˜…
eaeeizfw1mo
bought air purifier today, looks like they are in short supply ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
cwtqhxju1mo
my wife actually insisted this morning we move to Sumy or Chernihiv for a while
nixadododmxk17d
Does anybody know what the current border situation is for Ukraine? A friend is looking at going from the Netherlands to Ukraine to her family, and was wondering whether she would be allowed, and would have to quarantine herself.
obiwcnbb17d
Ukrainian nationals are allowed to enter by land (not all crossing points are open) but have to self-quarantine for 14 days with a mobile app that does random checks
zxppvwnvhjfr17d
olllyqnco thanks a lot! She does not have a Ukrainian passport anymore though, any idea whether she could still enter?
zbosqzcx17d
only if she has PR, otherwise not at the moment, but I think things are bound to change in June/July
yzcmhcslxraw17d
What is PR?
wdbedxpl17d
permanent residency
muksghqzkdjv17d
Thanks a lot!
ezdmrqg12d
I was reading that the moment other countries like EU allow that ukrainians can enter, that ukraine will open borders for foreigners too
jvmbivry9d
yeah, that looks like it'll happen mid-June
naahirlhk5d
Yup. Just an FYI for the group here. I was in a pickle since my visa free time expires on June 5th and my May 29th flight was cancelled. Next flight to Tallinn is June 17th (I really want to spend summer in the Baltics). Obviously I didnโ€™t take any repatriation flights. My Ukrainian friend called for me, inquiring about the official extension process (link below, but not posted because of stupid nomadlist restrictions, google _โ€œExtending the duration of stay on the territory of Ukraineโ€_). They are not working. They said I shouldnโ€™t be penalized much for overstaying a bit, other than the fine. Anyway, letโ€™s see what happens come June 17th. ๐Ÿ˜…
bxlnwdppo5d
(should have stayed in Baltics where I have residency facepalm )
iyswjgxoc5d
fjpgqsydna Well summer (at least in Lithuania) sucks so far so you are not losing anything as related to good weather ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
pvthcaenk5d
Hahaha. Letโ€™s not play the weather game. Itโ€™s been colder in Kyiv than Tallinn for the last two weeks. ๐Ÿ˜„ I actually plan to buy a car in Estonia and explore the Baltics. Iโ€™ll give you a ring if Iโ€™m in the area.
jbozikjdj5d
I'm waiting on a better weather and maybe will try an experiment of traveling around baltic states on my motorcycle (as it's free movement between them) ๐Ÿ˜„
hueixdsvu5d
Sounds like an awesome plan! Iโ€™ve never tried riding a motorcycle. ๐Ÿ™ˆ
zirdcndp2d
I did hear that visa restrictions are suspended
otovoozr2d
since flights are closed down and whatnot
zufaphvfw19h
Haha. Thatโ€™s good to hear. Well. I decide to get back to Estonia as soon as possible and trying my luck with Kyiv -> Munich -> Helsinki -> Tallinn on Monday. Iโ€™ll let you know how it goes. ๐Ÿ™‚
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