Hey all. I’m arriving in Kyiv tomorrow. After traveling for a week I plan to park in Kyiv for 2 months (maybe longer). I’ve visited many times, so I know my way around the city. My Russian is meh, but not zero. I do know locals there that can help me with things. What is your experience with renting apartments? Do you use airbnb or figure out how to actually rent a place? Is it possible to get a reasonable month to month kinda deal?

I’ve only AirBnB’d short term

Yeah for now I’ll be doing airbnb/booking, not too pricey with soon to be falling demand.

yeah, given latest news travel becomes really impossible

I guess good thing I decided to wait until booking my flight and airbnb

Railway only open inbound to citizens I believe

yeah, international railway to/from Ukraine is closing tomorrow everywhere as well as international buses

AFIK borders are closed to all non-citizens at this point.

Yes,
So if someone who right now in Ukraine needs help - write here or DM

I heard rumors of restricting travel between Oblasts? Can anyone confirm? I had no issue going from Dragobrat (Zarkopatta) to Bukovel (Ivano-Frankivsk) in a taxi. Next week I plan to return to Kyiv to hunker down. AFIK Bla Bla car is the best option.

private cars are not checked, buses and trains got cancelled

it seems Kiyv is officially entering into emergency state today

In what sense?

Like, literal State of Emergency

anyone here riding this out in ukraine?

I'm at home in Kyiv right now, given the circumstances gonna stay put for some time

any recommendations for a visible foreigner that doesn't speak russian 🙂

heh, gosh it's hard and really depends on case by case basis

yeah my embassy is trying to put together a flight to toronto

should be fine, police is very active right now and it was fine even during revolutions of 2008 and 2014

that is good to know 🙂 Thank you 🙏

It seems like healthcare in every country is going to be completely overwhelmed for a matter of months no matter where you are in the world, which means if you have to go to the hospital for any reason you’ll probably be screwed, whether that be Canada or Ukraine -- so I wouldn’t factor that in your decision.

I did make it no problem from Bukovel to Kyiv yesterday by bla bla car. It was super beautiful but eerie there in quarentine but still working Ski resort. I’m waiting it out here in Kyiv. If need be, I have a ticket back to Estonia (ghost-residency) and USA (I’d never go back in this kind of crisis). This was my intended destination, I know many people here from startups and conferences, so I’m happy even under lockdown.

But yeah, I’d suggest to go somewhere comfortable because it’s probably gonna be a long ride…

I didn't know Bukovel wasn't closed, super weird 😬

Do y'all think quarantine will be extended? supposed to finish the 3rd of April but seems like things getting worse.

yeah, I think it will. number of cases is only going to increase

heh, yeah

yeah the infection rate spiked from all the returning flights after they closed the borders

yeah, things are often very disorganized in Ukraine

yes, seems like this

that's a good point
I'm gonna move to a more comfortable accommodation before that happens -_-

On a positive note, month long airbnb prices were rock bottom a week ago. I took one for a month in Kyiv and surviving off of weekly trips to Auchan. 🙂

yeah, my Airbnb host offered me a half-price discount for April too 🙂

in case it might be useful to anyone in Kyiv glovo ubereats raketa() are doing deliveries from restaurants but many has built their own apps, it's possible to do it without human contact as well; groceries are delivered by zakaz.ua|zakaz.ua (almost always booked at the moment, works with auchan, metro, etc.) vova.ua|vova.ua produktoff.com/ also rozetka rozetka.com.ua/alkoholnie-napitki-i-produkty/c4626923/ (but assortment there is rather limited)

Thanks, I didn’t know about Raketa.

yeah, the problem with uber eats and glovo is high commission, so many quite good restaurants have actually there own separate delivery services, like one example is borysov.com.ua/uk/delivery

kuwxil just arrived in Kharkiv, #ukraine

The possibilities are endless 🙂

Hello, has anybody being to Carpathians in Ukraine? If so please share your favorite places

jfmdik welcome! It’s not that many things to do in Kharkiv right now 🙂

Hi tnvtoqsirle I’m actually not here right now, got COVID grounded! But still will come when this is all over

Yeah, may suggest nice places and stuff

> Hello, has anybody being to Carpathians in Ukraine? If so please share your favorite places
Sinevir lake is nice, we also used to do Hoverla run each summer and walking along the ridge to Pop Ivan during couple of days

I was due to be in Kharkiv again

heh yeah it's terrible in here 😢

ikky

have anybody even seen levels like that before?

If you look at the map, you’ll see the measurements vary by location, sometimes widely (I’m curious where they come from). But yeah, it’s not great here while these fires rage and these winds from North and Northwest. But hey, we all have masks right? 😅

bought air purifier today, looks like they are in short supply 😬

Does anybody know what the current border situation is for Ukraine? A friend is looking at going from the Netherlands to Ukraine to her family, and was wondering whether she would be allowed, and would have to quarantine herself.

Ukrainian nationals are allowed to enter by land (not all crossing points are open) but have to self-quarantine for 14 days with a mobile app that does random checks

olllyqnco thanks a lot! She does not have a Ukrainian passport anymore though, any idea whether she could still enter?

only if she has PR, otherwise not at the moment, but I think things are bound to change in June/July

What is PR?

permanent residency

Thanks a lot!

I was reading that the moment other countries like EU allow that ukrainians can enter, that ukraine will open borders for foreigners too

yeah, that looks like it'll happen mid-June

Yup. Just an FYI for the group here. I was in a pickle since my visa free time expires on June 5th and my May 29th flight was cancelled. Next flight to Tallinn is June 17th (I really want to spend summer in the Baltics). Obviously I didn’t take any repatriation flights. My Ukrainian friend called for me, inquiring about the official extension process (link below, but not posted because of stupid nomadlist restrictions, google _“Extending the duration of stay on the territory of Ukraine”_). They are not working. They said I shouldn’t be penalized much for overstaying a bit, other than the fine. Anyway, let’s see what happens come June 17th. 😅

fjpgqsydna Well summer (at least in Lithuania) sucks so far so you are not losing anything as related to good weather 🤷‍♂️

Hahaha. Let’s not play the weather game. It’s been colder in Kyiv than Tallinn for the last two weeks. 😄 I actually plan to buy a car in Estonia and explore the Baltics. I’ll give you a ring if I’m in the area.

I'm waiting on a better weather and maybe will try an experiment of traveling around baltic states on my motorcycle (as it's free movement between them) 😄

Sounds like an awesome plan! I’ve never tried riding a motorcycle. 🙈

I did hear that visa restrictions are suspended

Haha. That’s good to hear. Well. I decide to get back to Estonia as soon as possible and trying my luck with Kyiv -> Munich -> Helsinki -> Tallinn on Monday. I’ll let you know how it goes. 🙂