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Hey gang! Any Revolute users in Ukraine? Wondering if there are any problems taking out UAH from the ATMs and if there are any quirks to using Revolute in the country? Have read on forums, that it's meant to work fine, but knowing the land wanted to double-check first ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
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Cash exchange places are pretty good in UA
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Anyone know where to get American Spirit cigarettes in Kyiv? Or something know to be "organic"
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cxdbgamckydqb - all is fine with Revolut cards
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Except for the metal cards
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Be careful using local banks like Privatbank
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It ate my metal card because it got stuck
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If you have a regular plastic card it's fine
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Make sure you do your conversions on Mon-Fri otherwise you're charged a surcharge at the weekend (in any country / currency)
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Finally, try and use non-local banks - like Credit Agricole, because the local banks ATM will charge you a fee to use them
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๐Ÿ™Œ super useful! thanks swwamixmzyf
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aggdfliqrkzlh be careful around using standalone ATMs just sitting around in a store somewhere without a bank in sight. I used one and a day or two later someone was shoe shopping on the other side of the globe with a duplicate of my ATM card. I got reimbursed but it was a hassle to get the replacement card sent to me. As for how it went down, I believe there was a shell attached to that standalone that scanned the magnetic strip and sold that data to the mystery shoppers. As Edward mentioned, Credit Agricole is good with no funny fees or confusing scams going on. Also here in Lviv I found Kredobank to be decent.
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Awesome advice dgzumtkysoehm ;) this is exactly the scamy Ukraine I remember from the childhood ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Final thing to be aware of, is that for some reason a lot of ATM's in Ukraine seem to have a bizarre maximum withdrawl limit per transaction
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like.....
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$10 USD
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I've had to in the past, stand there and run through the entire ATM flow like 5 times
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Also 100% on what uvtdmqhwnljuh said. I forgot that had happened, but I had my card skimmed and it was being spent in a restaurant in Ukraine somewhere. Fortunately the card was being declined - but I was still getting the notifications.
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ukrsibbank atms should also be good
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yeah, I know tons of american folks whose cards were skimmed, seems to be a bit thing in Ukraine right now
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Euronet labeled arms let you take out up to 10k
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Just tried one at the tourist booth in Kyiv after getting electrocuted by an improperly grounded bank atm
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Just use privatbank - it's on every corner and it allows to withdraw up to 13-14k per transaction.
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Yikes!
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What a great idea! I won't be there until 2020 otherwise I would totally be down for splitting the costs!
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Somewhere like Kiev, you'll get more benefit from the social / company aspect than the cost - as it's so cheap there already
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in Lviv if anyone's around
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๐Ÿ‘‹ We're in Lviv for another month. Did you just arrive?
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I'm rather far away in Kharkiv
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witvnoiycvlkmrcr just arrived in Odessa, #ukraine
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zjhehtwddrppzhlevcjatk just arrived in Kiev, #ukraine
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gobkmcbibkogfmcyxzkqx just arrived in Kiev, #ukraine
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clcooaliyzcs - looks like we've just swapped places
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How is Kharkiv as a stop compared to Kyiv?
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I'd do both
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Kharkiv is chilled out
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Vs Kiev
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I would probably really say... Kharkiv isn't necessarily you'd detour to for tourism reasons
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But it's great for somewhere cheap to get focused work done
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How much cheaper would you say it is to other cities in Ukraine that you've been?
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A little bit vs kiev
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I spent August in Zaporozhye (visiting inlaws and co-workers) and that city had to be the cheapest city I've been in so far. But I can't say I'd recommend it. Some things are more important than saving money (breathing comes to mind). ๐Ÿ˜„
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Kharkiv is more like soviet style :) than Kiev but totally alright
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Zaporozhye is an industrial city, air quality is meh
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Ivano-Frankivsk and Ternopil are small very cheap cities with amazing quality / price ratio, might be a bit boring though
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You can do skiing weekend trips to Carpathian mountains from Ivano-Frankivsk to Bukovel, and skiing in Ukraine is quite affordable
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anybody here has any experiences of re-enter Ukraine? I'd like to stay in Kiev 10 days first, travel Schengen countries for a few weeks, and then come back to Ukraine and stay for a few months. I did something like this for years in SEA but not sure how it works in Eastern Europe. I have Japanese passport.
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mfa.gov.ua/en/consular-affairs/entering-ukraine/visa-requirements-for-foreigners
Japan
Visa not required for a stay up to 90 days within a 180 day period
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technically, there's no info on re-enter but you can also ping an embassy www.ua.emb-japan.go.jp/itpr_en/en_embassy_index.html
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Thanks!
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I forgot how this up/down walking in Kiev reminds you about muscles you never thought you had ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜•
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Anyone in Kyiv?
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Got two so far, they are kind of expensive, trying to see if they deliver
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Check out civic tech 1991, it's 100 euro per month for a non-dedicated desk
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Thanks! It looks pretty cool
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How's social life there?
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Pretty lacking, I'd say. I was literally the only non-local there, and it just wasn't a social scene, although I was typically there from 9 to 3-4pm, so maybe it gets better at night? The space itself is great to work from though!
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Thank you! I am also looking at Creative Quarter, but it was kinda expensive
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I called them, seems like 1991 civic tech is closing... hmm weird
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Really... interesting. Try messaging them on facebook, that was where I got the most coherent answers :)
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There is a bot responding to me in Ukrainian
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Ann Shkvarenko <[email protected]> here is someone that works there, you can try emailing her
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i have no idea if she remembers me, but i am probably the only asian guy that has ever been there haha
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I use Chasopys when I pass through Kyiv
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suqliffhjxcaymgl just arrived in Kiev, #ukraine
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I have 3 so far in 12 months
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UK passports get 90 days out of 180. That means you can enter and exit as many times as you want, but you can't exceed 90 days in each 180 day period
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Ah I didn't realise it was cumulative
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That's useful to know though - as I'm about to get a fourth stamp
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As the official flicked through my passport on my way out last time - they smiled and went "You like Ukraine then?"
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worbfotcklo rjncbimyvat A good way to check visa situation is to search for "visa requirements for YOUR_NATIONALITY citizens wikipedia" For example one for UK en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_British_citizens (I use similar page for my nationality to always give a quick glance before going into more research if needed)
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wvtdpndeiuy When researching countries to travel I have this Trello task `Check visa requirements en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Lithuanian_citizens AND www.visahq.com/ AND visalist.io/lithuania/all-visas` first start with wikipedia and if it says that visa is not required would not even bother checking other sites, if it's required when gonna check with the other sites to see that they say and usually finish with googling in my own language some keywords related to country and visa
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Yeah, I just do wikipedia page and if it's required visahq page. The last one is just because it looks nice, but not sure if ever used it. I think there is a lot of those visa sites, but for most of them I would kind of be dubious to use just in case creator gave up and they are out of date ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
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I was reading a post from someone who over-stayed in Ukraine and it sounds like the penalty isnโ€™t too bad, from 1700 to 5000 UAH depending on your passport country of origin and length of overstay. If anyone is curious about the details let me know and I can copy/paste the post (itโ€™s from a closed FB group).
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I personally always plan things so I'm gone at least few days before my visa runs out (in case something happens you can't make your date). Usually for most countries for short overstays it's just a fee, but don't feel like it's a good strategy to walk on the line
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hey
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just wondering how to get rentals for a month or two?
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do all nomads just uses airbnb or is there a way to get a house share with locals?
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I did airbnb in Lviv, Kyiv, and Odessa. Dollars go really far so no need to share unless you are trying to save more
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booking dot com is fairly popular with locals since they take less of a cut than Airbnb, and I was able to find fully furnished long stay type rentals with it that include laundry units and such. Airbnb is typically better and more geared towards foreigners (in other words more expensive but better support if anything goes awry).
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ctxszkbague just arrived in Kiev, #ukraine
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Somebody post a picture; I've been missing Kyiv lately blue_heartyellow_heart
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Iโ€™ve been missing Lviv
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wttsgpohdbrv I'll post some pics as I go
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Right now my view is laptop in hotel foyer
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yaaaaay y'all are the best โ˜บ๏ธ
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Kyiv pretty fog right now
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Yup I definitely need to go back soon
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It's a good place to go back (says someone who is flying to Kiev in 2 weeks) ๐Ÿ˜„
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