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You canโ€™t get an Excelsior Pass if youโ€™re not NYC-resident
Alternative proofs of vaccination are meant to be accepted man-shruggingskin-tone-2 We found in Canada that US CDC cards were accepted just fine
Oh, the comment I was replying to was deleted
jnic21d
Thanks! Much appreciated. Not sure why it was deleted, apologies if I broke a rule by cross-posting โค๏ธ
erdo21d
Soooo looks like the meetup on Saturday confirmed on meetups page. FYI ladies and gentleman!
raul21d
๐Ÿ›ฌ gxulna just arrived in ๐Ÿ’‚ London, #united-kingdom
Ooh, what meetup page? ๐Ÿค”
erdo20d
see the London meetup there
๐Ÿ›ฌ ayfcnrmp just arrived in ๐Ÿ’‚ London, #united-kingdom
Are we meeting at a particular spot or just anywhere in the yard? ๐Ÿ˜Š
erdo18d
I am coming with a friend and will be late 5 mins
erdo18d
eoolsgytmsmy maybe you pick a spot if.you are on time? :)
Will arrive in 25 minutes
bdltitixoann are you at the same spot you posted in other thread?
Yep ๐Ÿ‘
Happy to move though, as it's just me right now. You can WA me +61404197277 if easier.
erdo18d
cpcrsimfvaafnsg I am near the spot but can't see you haha
Move a bit forward I think
We moved a bit
The blue point, not the lighterman
What do you mean by โ€œa nightmare to travelโ€? Considering Brazil next
Remember to check the grass before you sit ๐Ÿ˜œ
ohmdsa looks like only you can add photos of meetup on nomadlist. Could you please one?
Hi folks! I'm a Londoner preparing to start my digital nomad journey in a just few months and I have a few questions for those of you who were based in the UK before:

โ€ข I'm a British citizen and I'll remain a UK resident for tax purposes (although my only address will be a mail forwarding service). From what I read, I shouldn't have any problems trying to use the NHS in my future visits to the UK. In practice, did any of you in a similar situation had any issues trying to use the NHS when you were back home?
โ€ข Apart from the obvious stuff you have to do before becoming a digital nomad (e.g., taking up travel insurance), is there anything less obvious you wish you had done before leaving the UK?
Good catch U08RQRT0C. Thanks! Not sure where I got that from then ๐Ÿค”
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"Properly settled basis" doesn't necessarily mean you spend most of your time there though. IIRC having strong ties to the UK (e.g. primary bank account, paying your taxes there etc.) would qualify you for that. At least I'm in that situation and hoping I can use the NHS ๐Ÿ˜… of course, NHS is very unlikely to check any of that in practice and in the worst case you can just become an ordinary resident again to be covered immediately
Thank you both! I need to check the tax residency tests again, but last time I checked I got the impression my ties to the UK (e.g., being the company director of a UK limited company) would make be a tax resident.
gk17d
I'm pretty sure that being a company director does not constitute significant ties. My advice from both legal and accountant have confirmed that I don't have to drop any of my UK companies. Let me know if you find out otherwise, please ๐Ÿ‘ I'm intending to keep my companies, personally. ( I'm also leaving at around the same time, btw ).
"Youโ€™re automatically non-resident if [...] you spent fewer than 16 days in the UK". So if you really don't spend time in the country in a whole year, it seems like you can actually get out of paying taxes. But any longer than that and it seems to get pretty tricky if you're not resident somewhere else
gk17d
Also Most of the bigger companies I've been a director on have had overseas directors as well, both companies (in the past) and people (recently).
gk17d
Yes. Also Next tax year, OR split tax years.
Also worth noting that you can skip the overseas tests quickly if you take permanent full time employment overseas.
Thanks! I think you're right, having just read about the SRTs on gov-uk. I'm going to send an email to my accountant to confirm.

Good luck becoming a digital nomad!
assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/pdf/2016/01/statutory-residence-test-flowchart.pdf|https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/pdf/2016/01/statutory-residence-test-flowchart.pdf is invaluable for decoding the SRT

One issue with your UK company is that if you are the only director and you change your personal tax residence, the company can cease to be UK tax resident regardless of its place of incorporation. You need to be a bit careful about the places you spend time in, if they have tight CFC controls for example.
Just stay registered with your GP
And, if youโ€™re resident, youโ€™re resident
You have to work pretty hard to be none resident if you spend much time back in the UK
If you have a UK address and are registered with a GP, nobody is checking
Great. Thanks U0LUCHG7Q!
Thank you so much for that link! That flowchart is really helpful
mzolzhmtilwednxa the trickiness you refer to is temporary disregarded income. For example say you have some UK source dividends from a UK company. You pass one of the automatic overseas tests and are not UK tax resident in a given year. In that year you receive a dividend from a UK source, and you're not tax resident anywhere else and so unprotected by any DTA. The UK considers this โ€˜temporary disregarded incomeโ€™ โ€” if you become tax resident in the UK again within 5y youโ€™re taxable on all such sums taken within that period as if you had taken it all on the day of return, _with whatever tax rate prevails at that time._
gk16d
Yikes, News to me! Thanks for sharing! ๐Ÿ™
Another tip I recommend is if you're considering any change of bank / new credit card or any of that nonsense to do it now - they are quite strict on confirming your address when you apply but once you have it then you have it ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
erdo16d
hqvuyvdyanyvntz just saw these, great photos, sure I'll add them
erdo16d
done, added 1 of them, I think it's enough right ๐Ÿ™‚
Apply to what exactly?
Mostly banking products. For example 2 months after I gave up my permanent address in the UK I decided I wanted a new credit card because points and stuff - I had to wait a year until I had a new "real" address in the UK to apply for it ๐Ÿ˜… they often want proof of address in multiple ways
fizypgtnwbcdsn as others have mentioned the NHS isn't really an issue. I'm from the UK and have been mostly nomad since 2012 and never had any issues going to my NHS GP while back at home. it's actually quite difficult to lose your UK residency (they want you to continue paying taxes!)
I'd recommend getting a spare credit card if you don't have one - just in case. also renewing anything that might expire soon (passport, cards, etc). losing stuff is a pain
I haven't done this but I heard there's a way to migrate your UK number to a virtual provider that will allow you to keep using it online for SMS etc.
then just get a local SIM wherever you travel
oh also the neobanks are generally easier in terms of getting replacement cards + not disabling your card every time you use an ATM aboard. monzo, revolut, starling
I think there's a misconception here. Itโ€™s very easy to lose your tax residency - just spend less than 16 days in the UK. Thereโ€™s none of this messing around with โ€˜you have a credit card in the UK so you must be tax residentโ€™ that e.g. France/Germany/NL seem to indulge in.

That said, of course the UK no more than any other country is going to be bothered or look into it if you pay taxes there, without any particular reason to do so.

Where it gets interesting is if you hover on the edge of being tax resident elsewhere, and a given country asks the UK if youโ€™re resident there. Meantime, you spent less than 16 days but signed off on an SATR claiming you were tax-resident. Also, the more cash is involved the more you want to pay close attention.

Realistically, one should probably only be concerned if spending a lot of time in a country that's more tax aggressive than the UK and making large distributions. Worth pointing out that the UK is not the only country with a very idiosyncratic concept of domestic tax residence. The idea you need to spend more than 183 days is the very definition of a false security.

Of course things like property (different reporting deadlines for residents vs non-residents) and opening ISAs can also muddy the picture.
Given the movement of the UK is very obviously towards higher tax (Brexit ain't gonna pay for itself), worth considering if there is a country with a favourable DTA with the UK that could be if interest. Probably depends how much you value things like SIPPs, and other tax breaks like that.
I think pphvxarrtst meant it's hard to accidentally use your tax residency, whereas you seem to be saying it's not hard if you try. Seems like both statements can be true. That said, if you have lots of family and friends in the UK, I wouldn't exactly say it's "easy" to spend less than 16 days in the country
luczqnhil you sound a lot more informed than I do about this! but last I checked it's not an automatic process even if you spend less than 16 days in the UK in a given year. you would still need to declare it.
I have a UK limited and continue paying taxes in the UK, despite rarely being there, so I'm going to assume that nobody in Whitehall is feverishly monitoring my flight logs to nail me ๐Ÿ™‚
esjsgzxvbxscymft 16 days is merely the easiest way. There are others. You can spend more days and if you do so in a place which isn't considered your home, that could be enough. But point taken.
rkbooefhnfa Itโ€™s not an automatic process, and you will need to declare an SATR, but it is an automatic test.
Agree on the flight records, but the interesting thing with tax is always when another country has a claim. If France says, actually, drpancakeโ€™s ass is ours, thatโ€™s when a minute scrutiny of the days becomes relevant. And why it's important to understand how any countries you're spending time in determine tax residence. Not sure the UK would be that amused about one signing a false SATR, either, if it ever got to this point. It all depends what other countries are in the mix.
If you have a UK limited and you're rarely there, you might want to install another director like a family member who is there. And again, be a bit mindful if you're spending time anywhere that polices management and control of foreign companies closely. That is a can of worms
cbqspjdhpqvyeuyl You are correct!
You can also make voluntary contributions even if you have no financial presence in the UK
Something I've been doing
I've neither a company in the UK nor residence in the UK, but I do have a ยฃ12 a month direct-debit that's making sure I'm fully paid up for pension
Thank you all for your tips! Much appreciated
๐Ÿ›ฌ ofspvlnu just arrived in ๐Ÿ’‚ London, #united-kingdom
Hi guys,

I have a question. My friend is from the UK but lives in Germany and got vaccinated recently with the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. I dont think that vaccine is available in the UK yet, hes going to be travelling back to the UK in the next couple of months but wasn't sure if his vaccination would be recognised or if it could be transferred to the NHS App.

Has anyone here from the UK got vaccinated in the EU and then returned to the UK and was your vaccine recognised? I looked online but couldn't find a clear answer
I don't know about getting it on the NHS app, but it is absolutely recognised here as a vaccine.
It's recognised hpleryrsbtndsuel they'll need proof of full vaccination, also to complete a www.gov.uk/provide-journey-contact-details-before-travel-uk|passenger locator form> and they will need to have a www.gov.uk/find-travel-test-provider|48hr COVID test> booked and paid for prior to arrival (the booking reference is needed to complete the passenger locator form) www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19|More info here>. Just landed in the UK yesterday from Croatia, along with my English auntie coming from Spain (vaccinated in Spain) Hope this helps!
You can find the list of accepted vaccines here www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination|https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination Lists Janssen, which seems to be the name of the vaccine by the company called Johnson & Johnson. They also mention the EU digital covid certificate in the list of accepted countries
๐Ÿ›ฌ zgjdtdjuu just arrived in ๐Ÿ’‚ London, #united-kingdom
thanks for the info everyone. I'll let my friend know what he needs to do ๐Ÿ‘
๐Ÿ›ฌ pcszpzemyogj just arrived in ๐Ÿ’‚ London, #united-kingdom
๐Ÿ›ฌ xxnaaivlv just arrived in ๐Ÿ’‚ London, #united-kingdom
๐Ÿ›ฌ agjmjlqzax just arrived in ๐Ÿ’‚ London, #united-kingdom
Iโ€™m selling 2x 16"/15.4" MacBook Proโ€™s and can post from the UK (or meet in London/Liverpool/Bath) when Iโ€™m back at the beginning of November, automod doesnโ€™t like if I post a link (though I donโ€™t _think_ it breaks the rules), so please PM me if youโ€™d like more information.
Also, any recommendations for quick easy overnight only accommodations near St Pancras?
On a more serious note, any hotel around there with decent ratings should be quick and easy
If you care about budget, there's an EasyHotel (some rooms without windows) or a Travelodge. The Great Northern hotel just between St pancras and king's cross station is supposedly good, but a different price league
if you want a hostel with private rooms, you could go with generator or st Christopherโ€™s nearby
Best cafe to work in near Kensington in London?
I havenโ€™t been yet but a friend recommended Cafe de Fred got wifi and plugs. The owner, Fred is friendly
If you come to Fulham area I know few more spots
There's a few hotels with nice lounges in that area; try Hux, Point A, or Xenia
๐Ÿ›ฌ jwbfboociuu just arrived in ๐Ÿ’‚ London, #united-kingdom
yysdxxepe you could rent it out unofficially on nomads list!
Get all the credit cards you might need etc, fairly obvious I know, but I wanted a new one recently and couldnโ€™t
When applying for a standard tourist visa, shall I mention myself as a self-employed (I am self-employed)? Will they allow me a tourist visa?
wqiphmup good shout ๐Ÿ˜‚
Yes I would think so. Self employed wouldn't necessarily mean that you can work while you're here. You could be a self employed builder for example. Just don't put anything that might indicate that you can/will work while here. (If you do plan to do that, you need a different visa).
will give you a shout if I need a place in London in the summer haha
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