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Where do I get good legal advice/support to have a long-term stay?

in Lisbon, Portugal by @mzorrilla | 2mo 2mo | 1 comment

Hello, everyone!

My idea is to stay as low as 6 months and as long as a year (maybe, who knows) over Lisbon after doing some analysis from many cities in Europe.

I'm an Argentinian and Chilean (both nationalities) so... no Euro-pass for me (getting my Italian nationality could take 2 years easily). I'm also a remote worker and I have a really good income (I work for a Silicon Valley company) so I can show more than enough resources to stay in the country.

Everything I see online doesn't inspire me much confidence (most sites looks a bit scammy) and this is not a "vacation stay"... I want to be clear my head far away from Argentina right now. If someone has a good website, recommendations, etc I will super appreciate.

Thanks in advance!

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@amin | 1mo 1mo

Not sure really. There's "Nomad Capitalist" but I've heard mixed reviews.

If you intend on staying in Portugal, my recommendation would be to research about their Golden Visa as well as their Non Habitual Residency program. It's well-known within the nomad community.

Checkout the "digitalnomad" subreddit as well.

Good luck!

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Best place in Portugal near cool nomads, good surf, and a great cowork spot

in Portugal by @joelnicholson | 26d 26d | 9 comments

Hi there, title says it all. Canadian nomad hoping to find the city/town in Portugal with great, consistent surfing, a solid coworking spot, and a fun group of young nomads. Please recommend!

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@rad4ever | 26d 26d

Here you go: nomadlist.com/places-with-many-nomads-near-a-beach-in-portugal

Lisbon and Porto match! There might be a few smaller ones not listed on NL, but they also won't have many nomads

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@joelnicholson | 26d 26d

Thanks! Definitely used your search tool before, it's great. Well done on the site as a whole, really unique tools you've built. Surprised to hear that smaller places like Ericeira and Alentejo won't have much of a nomad community.

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@benmercer | 24d 24d

Ericeira has a lot of permanent residents who work remotely and a few nomads passing through. Summer is more touristy and winter is quieter but with more serious waves. Was there last autumn for 6 weeks and had a great time. Think it'll only grow and grow - loads of coworking and coliving opening up

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@rad4ever | 17d 17d

Added Ericeira now to Nomad List, will take a few days for the robots to collect all the data and you'll see it show up :) nomadlist.com/ericeira

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@m__m | 4d 4d

Rad! Would you recommend any particular neighborhoods / cafes? Also considering surf school... 🌊

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@benmercer | 3d 3d

it's only a small place so there's not loads of neighbourhoods - you're kind of in the centre or not! best food was in very local style restaurants I thought - follow the Portuguese old boys! Adega pub is where everyone seems to go in the evening

I stayed at villadosirmaos.com (they are chilled, great people) which is in Ribamar, 5-10 minutes up the coast from Ericeira. Their friend David has opened a more formal co-living place here - www.sunagohouse.com. You can borrow surf gear at Vila dos Irmaos and David was a surf instructor. I don't know much about other options but there are plenty in town.

One of the big surf shops in a massive modern building has a cafe which is good to work from. You can also work in more local cafes sometimes which are quieter than ones in town. I'd usually surf at Ribeira and there's a big cafe/bar there which also accepts workers

Shout me if you go!

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@m__m | 3d 3d

For sure, & thanks so much for the fantastic recs - I didn't realize there was so much co-living happening there. Will check it all out! 😸

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@rad4ever | 26d 26d

Thanks dude! They might have though but not enough for it to be properly tracked on here (e.g. not members checked in there as much). If there's a significant nomad community it'll start showing up here

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@benmercer | 17d 17d

champion - was actually looking into going back there the other day!

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Where do you work from in Lisbon? 🧳☕

in Lisbon, Portugal by @dominiksobe | 3mo 3mo | 1 comment

Hi everyone,

I am going to move to Lisbon in July and I was wondering where you guys work from? Do you have any recommendations for working on a budget? Any good cafès or cheap coworking spaces?

I did some research and found some coworking spaces for > ~ 100€ p. month which is pretty reasonable but too much for me right now.

Thanks!

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@lukenomadic | 3mo 3mo

I used "getcroissant" whilst I was in Lisbon. You basically choose a number of coworking hours per month and are then free to choose any of the partnering co-working spaces. I recommend Heden, Selina and Outsite.

There are also plenty of wonderful cafes to work from. Several Copenhagen Coffee Labs, Heim, The Mill...

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My first time nomad-ing... Spain or Portugal?

in Portugal by @jasraj | 2yr 2yr | 6 comments

Hey everyone,

I’m a freelance + nomad newbie, off for my 1st proper trip in May. I’m wanting to spend a month somewhere and go from there.

I just came back from Slovenia/Ljubljana and loved it there (just a week). I don’t mind “sleepier” places par-say, as long as they’re close to a beach or nature of some kind. In fact, I kinda like places less-busy and a bit smaller/cosier.

I’m been swaying towards Porto, but have been impressed by the rave reviews I’ve seen for Valencia.

-> Have you every nomad-ed in a Spanish/Portuguese city? I’d love to know where and what you liked/disliked

Thanks!

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@jaystan | 8mo 8mo

My wife and I spent 3 months in southern Spain and Portugal, Carnival in Cadiz is THE BEST. its also relatively close to the Algarve, which is beautiful. Base out of Sevilla or Cadiz, you will love it

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@jasraj | 2yr 2yr

Thanks @edu_sunandco - I’ve emailed you at [email protected] and [email protected] addresses.

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@jasraj | 2yr 2yr

PS. For anyone who is curious, the list I have compiled is as follows:

Sende; Galicia, northwest Spain (close to Vigo & Portugal border)

Sun&Co; Javea, eastern Spain, coast (near Valencia)

NineColiving; Tenerife

Coworking-in-the-sun; Tenerife

Restation; Gran Canaria

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@eduardo | 2yr 2yr

Hi @jasraj, you can send us an email to [email protected]

Regarding your question above, I love Maruchi and Edo from Sende. They are super cool and the community they built in this rural town of Galicia is amazing.

I also know, Maria, the founder of Restation and she is doing a great job there. They have three apartments and then a coworking space. It’s not all under one roof but they do a lot of event in order to build the community.

I heard also good things from NineColiving, but since it’s pretty new I don’t know much.

It’s a long time since I haven’t heard from Coworking in the Sun.

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@jasraj | 2yr 2yr

Hey @edu_sunandco!

Thanks a lot for your message. I’ve been reading a couple of your other posts on the forum, actually, Sun&Co got my attention!

And it’s funny you suggest that… I’ve been looking at CoLiving spaces in Spain/Portugal/Canary Islands… Sun&Co is on the list!

I’d love to chat. I’ll send you an email. Jas

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@eduardo | 2yr 2yr

Hi @jasraj,

My name is Edu, I’m originally from Valencia and I love my city, it’s a very cool city to live in. It’s a mix of a big city with so many events going on and a small town by the sea.

If you’re starting your Digital Nomad adventure, I would recommend you to try a coliving space first. There you will be able to find many other people that have been doing that for a long time and you’ll be able to learn from there.

I’m the co-founder of Sun and Co coliving space, (you can search that on google), in a town called Jávea, about 2 hours from Valencia. You can check many other coliving spaces if you want to travel to other destinations of course

Good luck in this new adventure and I hope to see you soon in Valencia or Jávea!

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Anyone here resident in Portugal with incorporation elsewhere in the EU? Need some advice

in Portugal by @solardive | 3yr 3yr | 0 comments

Hi everyone!

Currently looking at ridding myself of the 9-5 and becoming a freelance consultant. I’m not planning to go full erm, “tax optimisation”, as I believe in taxes as a concept, but I would like to pay less of them so I can get my business off the ground with more peace of mind.

I’ve decided I want to apply for the Portugal NHR (I’m a EU citizen), but I don’t want to incorporate there. Anyone here has experience with being a Portugal tax resident and running a company elsewhere? If yes, where and why did you choose that country/place? Is it a a lot of hassle?

Thanks!

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⭐️ Overall Score	3.86/5 (Rank #75) 144 reviews
👍 Quality of life score	Good
👶 Family score	Okay
💵 Cost	😙 Affordable: $1,798 / mo
📡 Internet	🏎 Fast: 12Mbps (avg)
😝 Fun	Great
⛅️ Temperature (now)	🌞 Nice: 21°C69°F (feels 21°C70°F)
💦 Humidity (now)	😊 Comfy: 80%
💨 Air quality (now)	🌱 Great: 29 US AQI
👌 Safety	Great
🎓 Education level	Okay
🙊 English speaking	Good
🚶 Walkability	Okay
✌️ Peace	Good
🚦 Traffic safety	Okay
🏥 Healthcare	Good
😄 Happiness	Okay
🍸 Nightlife	Okay
📶 Free WiFi in city	Okay
🖥 Places to work from	Okay
❄️ A/C or heating	Good
😁 Friendly to foreigners	Great
🗯 Freedom of speech	Great
🤚🏿🤚🏻 Racial tolerance	Okay
👩 Female friendly	Good
🌈 LGBTQ+ friendly	Great
🎅 Startup Score	Okay

🌍 Region	Europe
🚩 Country	Portugal
⏱ Average trip duration	28 days
📡 Internet speed (avg)	12 Mbps
⛅️ Weather (now)	☀️ 21°C 69°F + Humid (80%) = feels 21°C 70°F
💨 Air quality (now)	👍 29 US AQI 🍃 good
🔌 Power	230V 50Hz
🚕 Best taxi app (in country)	Uber
🚑 Travel medical insurance	Safetywing
📱 Best wireless carrier	Vodafone
🏧 Suggested ATM take out:	EUR 100 = USD 116
💸 Tipping	No
💳 Cashless society	💳 Yes, cards OK almost everywhere
💻 Best coworking space	Salt Studio
🚰 Safe tap water	👌 Yes, drinkable
👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Population	10,000 people
🏞 Foreign land ownership allowed	Yes
👫 Gender ratio (overall)	👨 46% 👱‍♀️ 54%
👫 Gender ratio (young adults)	👨 56% 👱‍♀️ 44%
⛪️ Religious government	Non-religious
💻 Online electronics shop	Fnac
🏠 Apartment listings	Era
✈️ Best short-haul air carrier	EasyJet
✈️ Best int'l air carrier	TAP

💵 Cost of living for nomad	$1,798 / month
💵 Cost of living for expat	$1,009 / month
💵 Cost of living for family	$2,164 / month
💵 Cost of living for local	$618 / month
🏠 1br studio rent in center	$349 / month
🏢 Coworking	$174 / month
🏨 Hotel	$745 / month
🏨 Hotel	$35 / night
🍛 Dinner	$7
🥤 Coca-Cola (0.3L)	$1
🍺 Beer (0.5L)	$3
☕️ Coffee	$2
💰 Estimated tax on $50,000	$21,514
💰 Estimated tax on $100,000	$52,994
💰 Estimated tax on $250,000	$145,334

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