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Do you always have your passport with you?

 

by @stepunk | 5yr  | 31 comments

While traveling, do you always have your passport with you? Or you leave it in your room/hotel/house and go around with just a copy of the main page?

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@lricci | 2yr

We just got US second passports. In our case, Iโ€™d sent in for the 10 year Chinese visa. While waiting, I found out that Turkey might deny entry (or destroy our Chinese Visa) if we tried to enter on a passport with a Chinese Visa. So, I decided to apply for a second passport and was given second passports with expiration in 4 years.
We carry a color copy of our US passports while out on the street, leaving the passports someplace more secure. So far, the color copies have been accepted for money exchange, police and security checks when entering buildings under guard.

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Argentinian. Was just giving an example from somewhere else.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

ah. thatโ€™s useful to mention because db8871 and I were specifically discussing US passports which is why your posts didnโ€™t make sense.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

Youโ€™ve had multiple US passports over the last 20 years, all with the same passport numbers?

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@wanderingdev: Not really. Argentina used to issue passports with the same number up until 1-2 years ago. Iโ€™ve had 3 or 4 over the last 20 years, all with the same number.

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Second passports are a funny one. I used to have one. A few years ago, when I decided to go to New Zealand for a year, my passport only had 3 years or so left on it and given the dates and some visa restrictions, I decided it was sensible to renew it ahead of time.

So I did. But thing is, nobody cancelled the old one. Or took it. Or said I couldnโ€™t use it anymore. Both had the same passport number too, so I had a backup for a while. Then it expired. But then again, there is no reason why I couldnโ€™t do this again. Iโ€™m sure there are plenty of places where this is possible, even if not advertised through official channels.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

I would call that a fluke, not a duplicatable experience. True 2nd passports have different passport numbers.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

This only works in a few countries so wonโ€™t be much good in most of the world. A DL would work just as well. Getting a 2nd passport is possible, but a pain and you really have to prove that you need it. Fearing that your passport will get stolen is not a good reason.

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@db8871 | 5yr

If lost, possible backups without causing disruption:

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@ani_goes_tweet | 5yr

I never carry mine either. Iโ€™ve only ever been asked to show it at border crossings, hotels and similar. Iโ€™d rather chance annoying a police officer than having it ripped offโ€ฆ

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@nickdanforth | 5yr

I never carry it with me. I have a scan on Dropbox and I carry another form of photo-ID in my wallet at all times.

Iโ€™ve had to show the copy several times but itโ€™s never been a problem.

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@tkrunning | 5yr

I prefer not carrying it with me. I only bring it with me when buying a SIM, buying alcohol in the US, and similar situations.

The likelihood of an emergency GTFO of a country ASAP situation depends a lot on where you are. For most places I visit, itโ€™s a non-issue. But whenever Iโ€™ve been to e.g. Gaza Iโ€™ve kept it on me at all times.

For all other times, a copy in Lastpass is all I have.

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@whereskristin | 5yr

I only have mine with me if Iโ€™m driving or going to the bank or doing something where I need it. Otherwise I carry a copy and my regular domestic ID or drivers license. Itโ€™s rarely needed.

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@itinerantdev | 5yr

I keep a scan of it in 1Password on my phone. I also keep my passport in my laptop bag, but I donโ€™t always take that out with me. Iโ€™ve used my drivers license as ID to verify my credit card a bunch of times in Mexico.

That said, I understand that by law you are supposed to carry your passport with you at all times in Thailand and I generally did, especially since the military increased in presence (they may have left CM since though) .

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@dmitry.pavlov | 5yr

Sure. Always keep it in my pocket. Once I got it in my teenage I never go outside without it even in mother-Russia where I am from. Driving license doesnโ€™t work as an ID in many countries BTW :wink: At least I donโ€™t think that in Russia police will be OK if the foreigner shows them the driving license :slight_smile:

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@stratigos | 5yr

I always have my passport on me pretty much all the time, only time I donโ€™t is if I know I am going to do nothing for the day except swim at a beach (which, unfortunately, is not all that often).

Iโ€™m an bit of an exception though, I am an unusually successful person when it comes to keeping track of my personal things, avoiding theft, and other incidents where wallet/keys/phone/passport could be destroyed or go missing.

In most situations, when asked for ID by some form of security or police, Iโ€™d innocently offer my US driverโ€™s license first. Iโ€™d only offer the passport if asked directly. Iโ€™ve mostly traveled in Latin America, and the only time Iโ€™ve ever had to give my passport to police was in China. Even there, it is mandatory to check in with the cityโ€™s local police at some point (as a tourist), to get permission to leave whatever city you are in, or to get a local cellphone number. More of a bureaucratic function than any kind of random stop and frisk by the police.

Iโ€™m from NYC, where being stopped by the police is a frequent occurrence. It gives me the feeling that when I am outside of America, there is about a 1% chance someone will demand my passport. Though, 1% is still too much of a risk for an incident that could be as obnoxious and threatening to recover from as my passport being taken. I feel its much safer in my pocket than anywhere else ;).

I usually take a few photocopies of my passport and keep them in a non obvious location of my typically very light luggage. These are for a backup in case some freak incident destroys my passport, etc. Iโ€™m too paranoid that just having a photocopy on me alone will make police suspicious and win me a tour of their department.

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@sylow | 5yr

Turkey: I have been stopped countless times(my country)
Netherlands: Twice
Thailand: Once when I had no passport on me in middle of the night. Police thought for a half a minute before letting me go.
Luxembourg & Germany: Not sure if it counts but they stopped our car because they thought we were driving suspiciously

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Just to play devilโ€™s advocate on the emergencies front, there is also those of us that canโ€™t renew our passports while overseas if itโ€™s damaged or lost. Best I can get is a temporary passport only good to travel back home.

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@kopepasah | 5yr

@stepunk it is required by majority countries for you to have some form of photo identification with you at all times. However, you can get away with a photo copy on many occasions.

While it is definitely more convenient to not carry around your passport while traveling, also consider what you are giving up because of this convenience: the ability to get out of the country in a hurry. While most travelers may consider this moot, it is a very important factor which can sometimes mean life or death (especially in underdeveloped and developing countries).

Sure, you (and most others) may never face this situation. Nevertheless, it is something about which you should think deeply before brushing off as a non-issue.

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@stepunk | 5yr

@kopepasah nice point! Emergency situations, even if very uncommon, are something that has to be taken into consideration.

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@kirkbeard | 5yr

I never carry my passport with me while travelling. Itโ€™s safer in the hotel/hostel room/locker. If I have it on me, I may be robbed, or I might just lose it, so itโ€™s not worth the risk.

The only time Iโ€™d take the passport with me would be when I knew Iโ€™d need it, such as getting a new phone SIM (required in some countries).

I have never been in a place where I needed my passport for identification (so far). I always have my phone on me, with a photo of my passport, and I also have my Australian drivers license which should suffice if I ever need to prove my identity.

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@jonmyers | 5yr

No, I donโ€™t carry my passport as well.

As others have said, a photocopy will suffice for most (if not all) traveling situations. I keep an image of mine on my phone as well.

Further, I would suggest taking a photograph or copy of your current visa in said country to avoid any other hassles.

For example, if you are stopped riding a motorbike in a foreign country (and letโ€™s face it, most rarely have the right operators license) - then it makes the stop easier to have a copy of your passport and visa on you.

Never just hand over your passport, but be aware - for some things in Asia, it is โ€œnormalโ€ (use your judgement) to leave your passport as collateral for renting a hotel room. Especially in budget situations.

Finally, I would keep a photocopy of you passport backed up in a resource folder in Dropbox. Could come in handy if something happens and you need to get another passport.

All that said, for better or worse, the world can be more hostile or selective to some nationalities or even in the case of gender depending on where youโ€™re at.

Last year, my Vietnamese wife and I were traveling in Thailand in a taxi. We were going down an alley lined up with Thai police. One cop jumped in front of the taxi and demanded we stop. He then proceeded to the window and demanded to see a copy of my wifeโ€™s passport, which she luckily had on her.

He checked her passport and - then waved us on.

And of course, this white guyโ€™s passport he could care less about. Shitty situation.

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@modernist | 5yr

Only carry a photocopy, except when crossing borders of course.

Usually I only carry a debit card, a credit card, photocopy of the passport and cash. In different pockets.

Also have 2 other backup credit cards (from different banks) at the apartment, so if I lose the main ones or get robbed, I wonโ€™t be left with no way to get cash / pay online.

All this has saved my butt in a couple of occasions.

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@kathrynoh | 5yr

I donโ€™t but I should. Well I should at least carry some ID.

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@planetjeffy | 5yr

I take a cell phone photo of my driverโ€™s license and passport. Iโ€™ve used it twice - for buying a Sim card and renting an apartment.

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@stepunk | 5yr

@kristof yeah, what if police will stop you for a control?
@wanderingdev is the driving license a valid ID abroad?

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@kristof | 5yr

@stepunk I spent most of my time in Indonesia and other places in SEA. Better not to have your passport on hand so the corrupt cops can take it from you. Better to just pay them off in case itโ€™s necessary. Around Europe I may carry my Belgian ID or Driverโ€™s license.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

mostly they just want to see something with my name and picture on it. i wouldnโ€™t use it to cross a border, but if iโ€™m just out running errands and have to show ID it has always worked.

Iโ€™ve also, in more than 10+ cumulative years of travel through a few dozen countries, never been randomly stopped by cops on the street and asked for ID. YMMV based on your appearance though.

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@stepunk | 5yr

Never happened abroad. It happened a few times in Italy (my home country).
So I guess the italian ID card is gonna be enough (more practical to carry around every day than a passport) event if it states that itโ€™s a valid identification document only in EU and some neighbour countries.
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@wanderingdev | 5yr

I rarely carry my passport unless I will be doing something likely to require it. I do usually have my US drivers license with me just in case. but Iโ€™d rather lose that than my passport. I also donโ€™t carry a copy.

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@kristof | 5yr

Neither, passport in room, no copy on hand . Probably not the smartest thing to do I guessโ€ฆ

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Hi everyone,
Iโ€™m looking for some advice from people who are dual citizens. I hold dual Italian and British citizenship and I want to visit Thailand later this year. I was planning to get a 3 x 60 visa on my Brit passport, but it looks like I might need to travel out of Thailand a month after first arriving there. I donโ€™t really want to burn one of my 60 day entries like that so I thought, what if I first enter with my Italian passport and just get the normal 30 day visa on arrival? Then when i return I can use my first 60 day on the Brit passport.
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Is the strong US$ affecting you?


by @freedomsurfer | 5yr 5 years ago | 9 comments

Today the EURUSD rate is around 1.05, a multi-year high. While it was predictable that the Euro would collapse (it was always way overpriced), the speed of itโ€™s collapse is surprising. Itโ€™s the same thing with the Australian $, the Canadian $, the British pound, the Yen and many other currencies.

Are you affected by those forex moves? Will they influence your future plans? Maybe a change in destination?

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Coworking Camp is coming to Tunisia in November. Are you?


in Tunis, Tunisia by @matthiasezeitler | 6yr 5 years ago | 3 comments

Quite happy to announce that the next Coworking Camp will be in Tunisia from November 2nd till December 13th.

If you havenโ€™t heard or read about Coworking Camp before, itโ€™s a temporary coworking space in a beach resort to escape the European winter. Lotโ€™s of information including some videos from last year and links to various newspaper and blog articles is on our homepage at http://coworking.camp

The final hotel has not been decided yet, but I wanted to make sure everyone is aware early enough (as last year a lot of people told me they learned about it too late to join), plus we have a 35% super early bird discount on the tickets for the next few weeks. (code โ€œiaminโ€). There are also some volunteer spots left for free tickets in case you want to help organizing the event.

The general idea is to bring a group of about 60 like minded startup founders, digital nomads and freelancers together in a productive environment to make new connections, share experiences and have fun in the winter sun.

I am currently in Tunisia (only for a few more days), but will be in Chiang Mai soon, so please message me if you want to meet in person to learn more about Coworking Camp. Or just have a coffee.

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