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Do you have trouble deciding where to establish a home base?


by @jasonmwomack | 5yr  | 16 comments

With so many places to choose from, I sometimes overthink where I should establish a presence(home base) . This thought pattern sometimes eliminates the spontaneous choices that are right in front of me :slight_smile: I am wondering if any other DNs deal with this as well. If you have any suggestions or resources that could be helpful, please do not hesitate to share!

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@greentea | 3yr

To answer your question about medication, you can sign up for several telemedicine services nowadays, and order many prescriptions online.

If youโ€™re a US citizen, the following may be applicable to you. (I cannot speak to international citizens at this time, sorry)

I successfully use MDLive and OneMedical. Both are subscription services and both provide prescribing doctors. MDLive brands themselves as a digital urgent care and can diagnose several issues over the phone.

OneMedical is more for replacing the traditional doctorโ€™s office. Iโ€™m quite partial to their Arizona office, as they have a functional medicine doctor onstaff who is trained in Walsh Protocol, an epigenetics based protocol treating the whole human. I use this for strategising and advancing my health, as heโ€™ll understand why Iโ€™m ordering advanced blood tests like kryptopyroleโ€ฆ heheheโ€ฆ

I also have another doctor out of the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles named Doctor Karbasi/Avicenna Clinic (818-805-2232) who does telemedicine consultations and acts as your primary care physician. If you happen to visit Los Angeles, heโ€™ll also do any sort of physical exam or cosmetic procedure.

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@sonja | 3yr

This is definitely a tough question for many nomads. I tend to store all my stuff either in storage or in a friendโ€™s garage in my home city of Melbourne (Australia) when I leave. Then when I come back, I usually rent a new place and set myself up again, but then itโ€™s a pain to have to pack it all up again so soon.

I am thinking I might eventually save up and buy a tiny home (they are only about AUD$80K for a basic one, totally solar powered) and find somewhere to put it near Melbourne (will work out that small detail later :stuck_out_tongue: ). And then just keep all my stuff in that and live there when Iโ€™m home.

Because everybody I know and love are in Melbourne, it just makes sense to keep it as my โ€˜home baseโ€™. Once youโ€™re happy and at peace with the place you call home, I definitely think you can then start to establish โ€˜second homesโ€™ which might be in the other parts of the world you love. Maybe once you have some close friends in those places you can start to do the same thing (leave some belongings with friends or store stuff) but just on a smaller scale.

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@karel | 5yr

I grew up in France, spent 7 years in Canada and been on the road for about 2 years. I call Montreal home even though Iโ€™m not there often. I got badly sick in Mexico in August and it came down to โ€œwhere do I want to go back to and rest?โ€. For me it wasnโ€™t in France (even though my family leaves there), it was in Montreal.

One of the reasons I started traveling was to find my new Montreal, a potential new home base. But so far I have not found any place that took Montrealโ€™s place in my heart. I maintain my permanent residency in Canada, pay my taxes, have health insurance that I top with a travel insurance. I think it is an important consideration when picking a home base. This setup really worked out well in Mexico, I didnโ€™t have to pay a cent and my medical bill was close to 30k.

I have a similar setup than @Ani. I rent a storage unit and a temporary apartment when Iโ€™m in town. When I travel, I donโ€™t need much but I enjoy the comfort of a home. I like to cook for instance and it involves a back and forth to the storage unit every time I come and go to get some kitchen gear. So Iโ€™m currently considering going back to owning a place that I would sublet when I leave but can effortlessly come back to when I feel like it.

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@nomadicme | 4yr

This is what I have been doing too for the past 9 years. But I am growing tired of pulling stuff out and then back into storage each time I return to the States. It would be nice to have a small place to call โ€œhomeโ€ where my stuff is set up however the places where I have friends are super expensive (as they are in the largest US cities). Recently Iโ€™ve been considering getting a cheap small place in a new inexpensive city. There are parts of this idea I like (such as having my stuff all unpacked when I return). But I wonโ€™t know anyone in this new city and wonโ€™t really be there long enough to establish many friends. I never thought of it that way. Perhaps my home base should be someplace my friends are - although for me this is sort of a non-starter due to price. Which leaves me living out of storage which is what Iโ€™ve been doing.

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@karel | 4yr

I think that what makes a home base is where you feel like you would want to go back to if shit happens. I guess Iโ€™m lucky that for me Montreal is both where I have good friends, a very high quality of life (food is awesome here) and a very affordable housing market.

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@whereskristin | 5yr

On the medical topic, requiring a prescription shouldnโ€™t need a homebase. I agree with other posters. In most cases, meds are much more widely available without an Rx than they are in the US and some developed/western countries. As @wanderingdev said, it will probably also cost $2 instead of $80-100, especially if youโ€™re in Latin America or Asia.

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@jacobjay | 5yr

As an atypical DN effectively going from base to base (that is, if I like somewhere I make it a โ€˜baseโ€™ for sometime) yet who grew up without a base, the concept is something close to my soul. @whereskristin sums it up well. If you think you need a base, be analytical, else if you feel emotionally attached to somewhere (other than merely โ€˜missing itโ€™), then listen to your gut.

My main criteria is the slightly at odds combination of being somewhere I can retreat to when the chaos is too much, and also somewhere I can host the friends I meet around the world (in practice this has yet to really happen for probably obvious reasons :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:). Oh but also โ€˜mediterraneanโ€™ climate! Recently Iโ€™ve come to realise that relationships (professional or otherwise) need a degree of stability, which seems the foremost element of having a base.

So originally I was looking for somewhere remote, desolate, beautiful, errm, cheap! I donโ€™t however drive (legally) which makes this quite implausible, as wherever your base is, you need to be able to reach it easily. My current little town has a Ryainair airport, a train station and motorways to neighbouring cities, not to mention tourism. Almost perfect except for the professional element. So Iโ€™m shifting to a town nearer a city, lacking the tourism and airport. Time will see how it works out.

I will say that if youโ€™ve got savings enough (because nomads will never get mortgages right?), the unending migration of people to the largest metros means there are astounding deals to be had purchasing property in towns, (observations of Europe). To me ownership and utility are the definitions of a base. This could be shared though. Somewhere just to keep stuff is not a base. If people recognise you, and you enjoy recognising familiar things, thatโ€™s a potential base for sure.

Iโ€™m on my way towards having a second, larger base, and Iโ€™m hoping to make it something that otherโ€™s can participate in too. I really like the idea of a place which nomads can drift in and out of, but feel familiar despite the nomadism.

On the medical point, Iโ€™m diabetic, but everywhere Iโ€™ve been it hasnโ€™t been a problem, in India one can walk into any chemist and buy insulin (individually out of the box!), whilst in well-regulated France yes many chemists refuse to serve without a prescription, but keep at it and others will be happy to serve you regardless (particularly if you play the stupid foreigner), albeit for the full box.

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@whereskristin | 5yr

I definitely think that having a home base is an asset, if you can afford it or if you have a network of family/friends that can provide a โ€œbaseโ€. I was born in Florida and have always considered that my home base, even if I am only there once in a while such as once a year for a short time. I also have a home base in Costa Rica, at an apartment that I sublet out when Iโ€™m not there. I personally find that having zero home base can feel ungrounding, especially after many years, while at the same time I recognize that maintaining a home while being a nomad can be expensive under certain circumstances. I have some relocation clients who own multiple homes and rent them out long term, while they can always choose to go back at some point in the future if they so desire. Their home bases are usually in their home country. On the other hand, it may be 5, 10, 20 years living nomadically before you decide you want a home base again.

As far as choosing an international base or simply deciding where to go/travel/move to, thatโ€™s a highly personal decision. In society today and for most of the history of humanity, it hasnโ€™t been a very mainstream concept to sit down and design your ideal life, but this is your chance to do that. Beyond budget and visa restrictions, try to envision what your perfect day would be like:

  • What kind of climate are you living in?
  • What kind of food are you eating?
  • Who and what is around you?
  • What type of community/support/coworking access do you want?
  • What types of sports or outdoor activities are available?
  • What type of cultural activities are available?
  • Which language is spoken?
  • How remote are you? Are you in a city, town, village, at the beach or some combination?
  • How long can you stay there and how easy is it for you to come and go? In Panama and Mexico, for example, citizens of many countries can stay for up to 6 months without having to worry about renewing a tourist visa.

These are just a few quick questions of a long list you can ask yourself to help narrow down the list of countries and cities in the world. Finally, remember that you can always change your mind. After a few years of living on an island, you may start craving the city life and vice versa. There are pros and cons to each place at each life phase you are experiencing at any given time.

I just came across this HSBC expat article and it sums it up quite well:
Experiences take the places of the โ€˜stuffโ€™ that so often defines a home. For Jameela Deen, home for the modern global nomad is found in just a few suitcases. But as she will gladly tell you herself, that isnโ€™t necessarily such a bad thing.
https://www.expat.hsbc.com/1/2/hsbc-expat/featured/enewsletter/Expats-on-the-move?WT.mc_id=HBIB_2015_01_CONT_EF_SOC

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I guess having a โ€œbaseโ€ means different things to different people. There is a question of storing stuff. Currently I use my parents in Ireland where I keep a small collection of warm clothing which are too heavy to travel with and artistโ€™s materials (a pain in the butt to travel with) but I personally like having a base, to enjoy the feeling of travelling off somewhere but also I enjoy the feeling of coming back to somewhere familiar although I donโ€™t actually have a home. Iโ€™ve bases in Turkey and Spain, places that do feel like a home because I know Iโ€™ll find familiar and friendly faces there which at times can be important and Iโ€™ve spent time purposely doing this whilst still having the flexibility to take off for weeks at a time if I want. Also Iโ€™ve researched access to healthcare in both these places.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

Medication in most countries is pretty cheap, at least compared to the USA. My pain prescription requires a doc visit and costs $80 in the USA. Yesterday in turkey I just walked into the pharmacy and asked for it. Cost me $2.

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@jasonmwomack | 5yr

That is pretty clever. I will defiantly take that approach into serious consideration. I like it :slight_smile: Thanks

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

Most nomads I know donโ€™t have a home base. They move every few months. Why do you feel you need one?

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@jasonmwomack | 5yr

I have to take medication on a daily basis, which requires prescription refills with a doctor/pharmacy.

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@ani_goes_tweet | 5yr

Iโ€™ve maintained my GP etc back in the UK, and I have a tiny storage unit there. I go back twice a year. I wouldnโ€™t call it my home base, as have no home there (which is how I understand home base), but itโ€™s definitely a place I need to get back to from time to time. And there was no choice involved, as thatโ€™s where Iโ€™m established.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

Well, pharmacies and doctors exist everywhere so if you take your prescription with you getting it refilled shouldnโ€™t be an issue. In many countries you wonโ€™t even need them. You just tell them what you want and they give it to you. So still not sure why that would require a home baseโ€ฆ

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@kathrynoh | 5yr

That would depend on your home countryโ€™s health policies. If I return to Australia, I can get prescription medication at a subsidised price. I wouldnโ€™t return just to get my scripts filled, the airfare would be more than the savings Iโ€™d make but, if I returned home, Iโ€™d make sure I got the maximum amount I could.

I guess thatโ€™s going home as opposed to having a home base though.

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