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Formentera, Spain vs. Santorini, Greece?


in Santorini, Greece by @que | 4yr  | 5 comments

Hi,
Iโ€™m ready to start traveling again (looking at May through August, about). I have a little more money to spend and would like an island experience in Southern Europe. Iโ€™m a little older and looking for a little more comfort these days. I would plan to rent a 1 bedroom apartment if possible. Places that come to mind are Formentera or Santorini. Iโ€™d like to stay for 2 or 3 months. Does anyone have any experiences to share with these two locales. One concern I have about Greece is safety given the economic crisis. Any insight into there would be appreciated.

Thanks

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@jonsunandco | 4yr

I live close to Formentera, in Javea where I run a coliving space called Sun and Co (www.sun-and-co.com).

As far as I know, Formentera is quite naturally reserved, so not a lot options to live, what means itโ€™ll be more expensive than any other island.

Itโ€™s beautiful, though.

Maybe you can find more info here: http://www.formenteraliving.com/en/home/

Good luck!

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@val_tomescu | 4yr

Both islans are incredibly beautiful but quite different. While in Formentera you can find clear blue/turquoise water and white sand beaches making you think that you are on a Caribbean island, it doesnโ€™t have much else to offer in terms of restaurants, bars and places to hang out. Itโ€™s a rather quiet island. We never had any safety issues there, tourists and locals are quite laidback.
As for Santorini, I found it more varied in terms of beaches, villages, restaurants, people and places to visit or do. The landscape can change dramatically, it has more culture and you are more likely to meet interesting people. Just because it is bigger and becaise there are more people living there you are more exposed than Formentera, otherwise itโ€™s a pretty safe island.

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@matejsimek | 4yr

Donโ€™t be afraid of your safety in Greece, just stick to the basic cautious behavior. Iโ€™m in Greece for 2 months already and I havenโ€™t got any problem. In fact people here are really friendly.

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@trwiley | 4yr

Hello. I am fifty years old and have been in Greece for 8 weeks (Athens, Crete, Halkida). The people are great and I have no concerns about safety because of the economy. Although I did get my phone stolen out of my hand while walking late at night in Athens. But perhaps I was flashing it around too much.

I havenโ€™t made it to Santorini, but can imagine it is quite nice. It is one of the more popular islands and with tourism I would think safety there is no problem.

Good luck

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@que | 4yr

Thanks, thatโ€™s good to hear. Would you share how much you are paying for housing?

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Hey everyone,

Iโ€™m a freelance + nomad newbie, off for my 1st proper trip in May. Iโ€™m wanting to spend a month somewhere and go from there.

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planning on going to Valencia for a while and am looking for an appartment from April to summer. Any Ideas where to look for? Appart from airbnbโ€ฆ

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thanks and best regards,
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in Spain by @rynesweeney | 2yr 2 years ago | 4 comments

So I head to Barcelona in a week for the next 4. I am reading some stuff online. I want to wing it and ask around when I get to Barce. But what I see online I may just spend the open three weeks I have in the Canary islands. The year round surfing and reasonable cost of living sounds great especially spending the first three months of 2018 on the beaches in Central America.

I fly out of Madrid the second week of May. I dont want to spend more than a couple days in Madrid. I had a week there last year. So if anybody could shed some insight based on their experiences that would be most bodacious.

For those who are still reading here are some interests of mine:

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See you in the forum, Ryne

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in Mostar, Bosnia by @gigigriffis | 3yr 2 years ago | 18 comments

Hey guys!

Doing some travel planning for when my boyfriend and I have to be out of the Schengen in the spring. Iโ€™m looking at Dubrovnik and Mostar. Weโ€™ll probably get to both of them, but was wondering - for those who have been - which one would you recommend basing in longer-term?

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in Chiang Mai, Thailand by @snu6ew | 3yr 3 years ago | 16 comments

My girlfriend and I started our DN life this March and went straight to Chiang Mai because of itโ€™s ease of living. We love it. CM is great โ€“ we got a scooter for 2700 THB, a nice apartment for 8000 THB all in, we get our laundry done for 50 THB, eat out at nice places every day for less than 100 THB etc. Arriving here needed nearly no preparation โ€“ it just worked out all by itself.

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CM can get very hot and we often acknowledge that we should have chosen an apartment with a pool here. Can I rent something in Bali for a few months with a pool for less than 250 USD?

Are there any Nomad-houses or similar projects at the moment that make it easy to connect to other people?

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Iโ€™m looking for somewhere to spend July in northern Spain. (Not that it matters but June weโ€™re in Paris, August in Porto).

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Has anyone tried to apply for a non-lucrative residence visa in Spain?

 

in Spain by @i_am_aileen | 4yr 4 years ago | 29 comments

Hey everyone,

Iโ€™m planning on moving to Spain and Iโ€™d like to connect with those who have tried to apply for this special type of long-term visa called as โ€œnon-lucrative residence visaโ€.

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So : my concerns right now revolve mainly on anyoneโ€™s experiences with applying for this type of visa. How difficult was it? How long did it take you?

Also, Iโ€™m wondering about how I can secure a rental space for a year if my lease depends on the approval from the embassy. Iโ€™m also wondering if Valencia is a good place to stay in?

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Would you like to help revitalize a village in Greece?

 

in Greece by @lightmotif | 4yr 4 years ago | 48 comments

Hi all -

Iโ€™ve recently connected with an interesting community group called the Meraki people, based in a village in the Peloponnese of Greece, only 2 hours from Athens and its airport, and 1 hour and 15 minutes from Kalamata and its airportโ€ฆfull of cultural gems, great beaches and wild mountainous landscapes. They are trying to bring new life and economy to their villages, in a self-sustaining, technologically-innovative, and environmentally-positive way. And theyโ€™re interested in hosting digital nomads in a community experience where you could work on your own projects and/or volunteer to help the local communities, depending on your interests and availability. They have received some significant international recognition already.

Iโ€™m trying to work out details around a potential gathering approx mid-Nov to mid-Dec. but also want to gauge interest before getting too far. Cost of lodging should be reasonable/ off-season โ€“ apts or private rooms with heat and hot water, and there would be a co-working space + potential community kitchen. @alldreamedup and @munly_leong expressed interested in Greece this fall - have either of you made plans? Also, @srajan821 and @bradonomics - the Meraki people are trying to do something similar to an eco-village, so wanted to give you a shout too.

Hope to hear from some nomads interested this fall (or in the future). Thanks!

Susan

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How to avoid Tax Residency/Wealth Tax in Spain?


in Spain by @palimpalim | 4yr 4 years ago | 4 comments

Iโ€™m planning to move to Spain this year, but Spain has a wealth tax for worldwide assets over 700.000โ‚ฌ if you are classified as a resident which I want to avoid.

Iโ€™ll try to be a short as possible:

  • I am a german citizen and Iโ€™m renting a flat in London, UK but havenโ€™t stayed there a single day in 2016. (110 days in different countries in Asia, 10 days in Spain, 30 days in germany)
  • I own a flat in germany that I rent out to tenants (limited tax liability for the rental income in germany), but besides that I donโ€™t have any income except for a few dividends from my stocks
  • I am planning to fly to Thailand for 2 months beginning of December 2016

Although I am renting the UK flat until December 2016 I prefer not to be in UK, which would mean that I would not be classified as a UK-resident because I would not meet any of the automatic UK or sufficient tie tests.

Iโ€™d like to move to Spain as soon as possible but would be willing to stay out of it for x weeks to avoid being classified as a resident and save wealth tax.

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From "selfish nomadism" to "supportive nomadism" โ€” Greece, anyone?


in Greece by @alldreamedup | 4yr 4 years ago | 12 comments

Iโ€™m still trying to decide where to go between October and Christmas this year. Too many criteria to handle and at this point no absolute priority is emergingโ€ฆ first world problems. :wink: So I turned the โ€œproblemโ€ around, instead of thinking selfishly โ€œwhat can this or that place do for me?โ€ I am now thinking โ€œwhat can I do for this or that placeโ€? And soโ€ฆ Greece. I visited Athens & the Peloponnese on holidays last year and found some beautiful spots where I could definitely spend a couple of months, and am now thinking: what if thereโ€™s a few of us who rent a big house with Internet (preferably by the sea, that priority is pretty much always top of the list for me though Iโ€™m flexible) and turn โ€œselfish nomadismโ€ into โ€œsupportive nomadismโ€? I only have a contact in Nafplio for housing, so if you are interested in helping create this and have ideas/suggestions/contacts let me know in a comment! There may be a few practical difficulties, with the current cash shortageโ€ฆ I havenโ€™t studied this in details but hereโ€™s a thought, anyway!

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How would you define "visiting" vs. "living" in a country?


by @krompson | 5yr 4 years ago | 11 comments

CouchSurfing.com profiles have a section where users list countries theyโ€™ve visited and countries theyโ€™ve lived inโ€“an interesting distinction for a nomad to think about.

Certainly thereโ€™s no one right way to define โ€œvisitingโ€ and โ€œliving,โ€ but how would you define each of these?

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Anyone has experience surfing in Cadiz, Spain?


in Spain by @flowen | 5yr 4 years ago | 4 comments

Hi!

Anyone here has experience with surfcamps / surfcourses / surfhostels in Cadiz?

And even more important, anyone wants to join or is already there? :smile:

edit: some more info
Was thinking of staying for a week (but who knows, maybe iโ€™ll add a week). Am currently staying in Sevilla.
And planning to go first or 2nd week of Feb

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