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How to sign legal documents on the road?


by @gawin 8yr  | 11 comments

It can be hard to get access to a good printer and scanner while moving, especially if you have to sign a lot of documents. Now, I could scan my signature and just copy paste a digital image it on the documents, but that doesnโ€™t feel secure and really easy to copy by others.

How do you sign legal documents while on the road?

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@alex_vt 8yr

Two of my coworkers recently became notaries, and showed this app โ€œNotarizeโ€ to us.

According to my recently-minted public notary coworkers, you can use this app in all 50 states to get a signature from a public notary. The app drops you into a video channel with the notary where Iโ€™m guessing they perform some authentication steps, and then you can send them the document you need signed.

I canโ€™t speak for the security of this app (I wouldnโ€™t be surprised if they stored all your documents on their servers) but so would any of the other notary websites that people here have suggested! This app seems like the most painless process for using a notaryโ€™s services.

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@jules 8yr

One more thing I do is sign a bunch of empty A4 sheets and hand them to a (very trusted) friend. That way he can just print whatever I send to him on top of it and itโ€™ll have a genuine, hand written signature.

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@levelsio 8yr

http://HelloSign.com :slight_smile:

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@sprad 8yr

+1 for HelloSign

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@gawin 8yr

Thx for your suggestions so far!

Scan to an image

Scanning your signature is something I also did years ago, works great for simple low level stuff. And itโ€™s also legal in most countries. :thumbsup:

Notary

Currently I also have my signature legalised at three different notaries, in three different countries for stuff that requires a legalised signature. I even have copies of original legalised digital versions of that, my lawyers also have those copies (has already been proven useful several times, setting up new businesses, larger contracts etc). Works great but can be quite expensive.

Fraud

Now, for me there is something between the lower level signatures and the heavy notary/lawyer documents. Things that (might) have a great (financial) impact, but currently are not that valuable. For example simpler contracts. To use a lawyer or notary for those would simply be to costly.
My main concern is that I want to exclude the situation where someone said I agreed to a contract and shows my digital signature (scanned image) on that document where I I never even seen that contract, or itโ€™s slightly changed by the other party etc.
Ok, call me paranoid, but that happened to me twice already. :confused:

Adobe eSign services

@mswehli thx for the Echosign suggestion! Looks promising. Itโ€™s now rebranded to Adobe eSign services, but $14.99/month seems a bit to much for my use case. Besides that I donโ€™t really like the vendor lock-in Adobe tries to create.

:lock: PGP signed

Today Iโ€™ve made some successful tests with digitally signing PDF documents using my PGP key. So if somebody copies my digital signature (scanned image) they can not created a PGP signed version of that document, since they would need me cryptographic private key for that. In that case I can ask the other party, show me the PGP publicly signed version. If they canโ€™t reproduce that, weโ€™re done. I donโ€™t know how that holds up in court, but is sounds reasonable.

:information_source: Iโ€™ll share my findings about this and how to set it up in a blog post!

Any other suggestions?

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Just a note though. Things like esign and certified pdf are useful primarily to prove someone signed something and not to prove that you didnโ€™t sign something. So itโ€™s there to benefit the person asking for the signature. So if you want something signed then itโ€™s good to insist they use something like PGP as they canโ€™t claim itโ€™s fake, however if youโ€™re the one signing the documents then a document not being properly signed isnโ€™t really a good enough legal defence that you didnโ€™t sign something.
In anycase the burden is usually on the other person to prove you signed something rather than on you to prove you didnโ€™t.

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@jukka 8yr

Hi Gavin,
Look at https://rightsignature.com. Should be the answer for you.

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@zsoltee 8yr

+1 for RightSignature. I used it just once, but it felt like a good solution.

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I use a Mac, and Preview can add your own handwritten signature to any PDF.

So, anything that requires me to sign it, I use that. Iโ€™ve run into problems where I need a notary public, donโ€™t have a good solution there.

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Personally I just do the whole scanned signature thing with adobe acrobat and also use echosign quite a lot when I can. But ofcourse the other person has to agree to use it (and pay a subscription fee)

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@mule5 8yr

Same here, I use a scanned signature that I place with photoshop or acrobat onto a document, check, contract, nda, etcโ€ฆ I rarely print, sign, scan, email anymore. I scanned my signature about 10 years ago, cleaned it up in photoshop, and made a stamp out of that for acrobat. I also did the same with my initials, as well as both for my wife. Some legal documents require initialing all over the place. :wink: It was quick and easy to do, and I have used the same stamp for years, even after upgrading acrobat. Every check that gets photographed and emailed to me for electronic deposit, gets this โ€œsignature stampโ€ then uploaded to the bank, never had an issue. I donโ€™t know how I would be paid otherwise with no access to physical mail and bank branches.

Also - no solution for notary public. I was thinking about being certified, but for the very rare instance Iโ€™d need it, it was not worth the hassle.

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Hi guys,

After the Netherlands, the Bay Area, Colorado and being on the van life for 8 months, I am now in Sedona, AZ with a few other digital nomads. We are sharing a home here and are wondering if there are more like minded people in the area.

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International number & internet?


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Hi everybody. I live and work in Germany and want to go to Canary Islands for 6 months to work from there. I'm going to keep my current job, just change the "home" in the home office part of things. Are there any tax issues I have to be aware of? I was reading about becoming a residence after 183 days, thus having to pay taxes there plus my employer having to register there. Does anybody know how it works exactly? Thanks a lot!

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Where do I get good legal advice/support to have a long-term stay in Portugal?


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Hello, everyone!

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Remote worker in Amsterdam: taxes and legal status?


in Amsterdam , Netherlands by @think 5yr 5 years ago  | 1 comment

Hi all,

I am moving to Amsterdam in January and looking for advice regarding legal status.

I work for a small French company. They agreed to let me move to Amsterdam as a remote worker starting January. :v:

However, they have no business entity and no employee in the Netherlands, so we have no idea how to set up the whole thing legally speaking. Should I remain an employee of the French entity, should I charge them as a consultant/contractor?

Of course, I am looking for a solution that is both simple and with minimum taxes :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Thank you for your help!!
Steph

PS: If you can recommend a good accountant that is competent on the topic, I an happy to pay for the service too!

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International Legal Will?


by @globaltaxfree 7yr 7 years ago  | 5 comments

Just tackling my legal will and bought a little $35 pack at my local Australian post office while Iโ€™m back in my birth country, but upon reading the first few pages itโ€™s fairly apparent this is only an Australian Legal Will.

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I need to consider things like decentralised online assets that donโ€™t exist in any particular country, any resources or experiences even just anecdotally appreciated

Cheers

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by @christianbundy 7yr 7 years ago  | 30 comments

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by @justinbosco 7yr 7 years ago  | 7 comments

Hey everyone, my girlfriend and I have been nomading for about 8 months now and weโ€™ve had a total blast doing it, but something weโ€™ve both struggled with is how to stay in touch with personal/professional networks while abroad, especially since we donโ€™t speak the language in most places we live. When youโ€™re at home or in a single English-speaking city, you can attend one of those awful professionals groups and make 10 business connections in 10 minutes, but when youโ€™re moving around monthly, itโ€™s just harder to keep up personal and professional relationships, let alone build new ones. So, as friends who understand this wonderful but often lonely lifestyle, how do you keep your networks up while on the road?

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by @sonja 8yr 8 years ago  | 23 comments

Hey all,

I recently spent 2.5 years as a DN (mostly Europe and SE Asia) but then went through a huge breakup (6 yr relationship) and decided to spend some time back home (Melbourne, AUS). Iโ€™m giving myself a year back here, just to โ€˜come downโ€™ from it all, reconnect with important people in my life, and lick my wounds a bit.

Can I just say, surprise surprise - itโ€™s HAAAARD! Being home is such a slap in the face, even though Iโ€™m earning more money than ever, my business is going great, and doing some other wonderful things/spending time with wonderful people. The breakup, coupled with a complete shift in my reality and routine has been almost too much to bare - I wouldnโ€™t recommend it! NOBODY at home understands the internal existential conflict Iโ€™m experiencing. Itโ€™s been 8 months and not getting any easier.

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Being a DN with a long-term partner who was also working a bit seemed like the ultimate lifestyle for me. It was damn amazing. Now that Iโ€™m no longer in a relationship, and am a female nearing 30, I canโ€™t help but feel pressured by society to stay here and remain open to the possibility of eventually meeting someone again. If I want to have a family at any point, I kinda canโ€™t be running all over the world creating fleeting relationship after fleeting relationship and having to deal with the loneliness that inevitably hits when you make beautiful connections and then have to say goodbye over and over. I feel Iโ€™ve been โ€˜brokenโ€™ and donโ€™t have the emotional capacity to handle this anymore. At least last time, I had one solid thing that was always there - my partner.

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by @youarehere 8yr 8 years ago  | 1 comment

I am looking for a best virtual Domicle to declare as permanent legal USA address and Legal Domicle where I can receive Virtual mail and have it mailed to my current geography. Please inform if you have recommendations or experience. Thanks!

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by @lefnire 8yr 8 years ago  | 33 comments

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My client didn't pay, is it illegal for me to discuss this with other contractors?


by @stratigos 8yr 8 years ago  | 15 comments

So I had a client go silent on me recently as soon as I brought up the topic of delinquent invoice payment. We typically speak daily, and otherwise have an excellent relationship. They love the work I do (at least, their praise seems authentic and on target). I love the work I do for them. We had a verbal agreement that I would be paid within 2 weeks of invoice. My contract allowed for 30 days / 4 weeks. At the second invoice, they went into 6 weeks without paying me.

I asked about it, and got no information in return. I kept sending emails twice a week to politely ask for information about what the issue was, and when I could expect payment. I received an extremely brief non-answer once, and more silence. I began to explore what other measures I could take, I honestly believed I had been scammed. They owed me a 5-figure sum (USD).

I work on about 8 different websites/codebases for this client. Each has a git repository, with a full history of all the other contractors, and naturally, their emails. I have paired up with a few of them on some projects (front end / back end dev relationships), so I know some of them on as personal a level a remote dev coworker can have.

I considered extracting all the emails from each project from the last yearโ€™s worth of commits, and then emailing each one individually to ask if theyโ€™ve ever had payment problems with this client. This would also obviously share information that I had not been paid for a time that violated the terms of our contract. We have a policy of being able to freely contact each other, via slack, or email, so its not like emailing them alone is violating some kind of privacy term on their end (or mine).

Would it be illegal for me to discuss this information with the other contractors? This concerns businesses incorporated in the USA. They are an LLC, if that matters. Could my client have grounds to seek some kind of legal retribution if they found out I did that? I think its only fair that they all know if I had been ripped off, and also may want to band together to fight the client if they too had also been ripped off. There is nothing explicitly stated in my contract that says I cant share information about my experience with them with other contractors (or anyone, really, outside of technology-NDA sort of things).

Note: I was certainly going to report them to Glassdoor, Freelancerโ€™s Union, BBB, and any other institution that I could, if this went on much longer. They finally caved after the 5th email or so, and paid me (again, without speaking to me about it, which is what bothers me the most). I also was going to start resorting to phone calls AND email bombardments (always polite :-P) first, before taking these next steps. This happened with the 2nd invoice in our relationship, which concerned me greatly, since I was told when hired that they had funds to pay me for even more hours than I was putting in. I am aware of the frequency with which freelancers get ripped off by clients (FU reports ~40%). I refuse to tolerate it, especially if we have been told otherwise, and am a strong advocate (re: activist) for workersโ€™ rights in general. Just an aside, Id have been far more tolerant, had they chosen to discuss things with me, and let me know what was happening - the silence drove me towards this aim.

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What is the legal status of remote workers with regards to visas?


by @anon82020850 9yr 9 years ago  | 1 comment

Hi all,

I have been (sort of) nomad-ing for the past 2 and a half years, spending time in Southeast Asia and mostly Thailand.

I know there has been various discussions regarding the legal nature of working on a tourist visa, but I have honestly never given this much thought as it is not something which bothered me. My attitude was that if I get deported then so what? I move to the next place.

In the past few weeks I have been speaking to one of the big multinational software companies (based in the US) about the possibility of joining them. They are seemingly happy with me working remotely as long as I get into a more favourable time zone (read: Central or South America).

This morning in talking with the recruiter the issue around the legality of working remotely while inside another country on a tourist visa came up. I had no definite answers for them other than โ€œit is a bit of a grey areaโ€.

The recruiter said that their legal department will need to look at it in more detail. This is obviously something which can potentially spoil a good opportunity for me.

So my question is whether anyone can provide some reference to blog posts or articles where the legal status of working remotely on a tourist visa has been discussed in more detail?

I guess a definite answer is going to be difficult as it will also differ from country to country, but anything you can help me with will be appreciated.

Thanks

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