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What should your perfect co-working/living environment have?


by @marcob 9yr  | 11 comments

What are some MUST HAVES in a co-working/living environment? ** other than stable wifi and awesome people :wink:

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@jacobjay 9yr

Iโ€™ll back up the standing desks on half-day use, if you invest in the (expensive) Ergotron sit-stand units, you can pair them with a cheap chair and have the best of both worldsโ€”and an extra monitor you donโ€™t need to move. If youโ€™re on a budget a fixed bar area that people can stand at and move between desks is fine (but wonโ€™t suit people of significantly varying heightsโ€ฆ). For communal tables, make sure to use desk height (elbow) not table height otherwise the ergonomics suck for working.

Personally I like music whilst working, which means some speakers (with airplay)! But if so there has to be a quiet area too. And a casual feet-up area is essential (i.e. sofas) for coliving. The more people, the more distinct spaces are needed. If youโ€™re only talking a few bedrooms, everyone can muddle in :slight_smile: If thereโ€™s more people and youโ€™re not providing every meal, you have to have communal supplies (e.g. milk, bread, coffeeโ€ฆ) otherwise the kitchen becomes a nightmare. A big fridge is worthwhile (or two if thereโ€™s a cook). If the water quality isnโ€™t great then a water filter. Quality sockets and power strips! Good but adjustable/combination lighting. Itโ€™s the basics that really matter. Especially for stays of a week or more. For short stays you must be reachable by public transport!

@marcob what model are you thinking of? Renting or buying, programmes/inclusive and/or ad-hoc? Itโ€™s great to see more of these kinds of spaces being proposed and established, I would happily spend all year moving amongst. Iโ€™m planning on setting up a house in Fez next year myself, and would like to establish a network of such places. However I like contact with the local professional community thus an โ€˜openโ€™ coworking, although more isolated locations would nonetheless be appealing for focus/escape/activity!

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@marcob 9yr

@jacob Iโ€™m actually thinking of buying or building, and then having several โ€˜rentedโ€™ locations - I might start with the later. My thoughts are similar to yours, having a network of spaces that can be accessed world-wide, but first in locations I am already familiar with and plugged into so that I can connect residents with the local entrepreneurial communities.

What model are you thinking of using?

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@jacobjay 9yr

@marcob My model is centred on creating an overlap for the two spheres of local coworkers (in a coworking space) with visiting/itinerant professionals (in a coliving space). So yeah definitely we have a common goalโ€”bringing these two together (ideally in the same space) really creates richer serendipitous interactions. But I like to play around adding more to the mix, and my accommodation model remains to be further experimented with. Iโ€™ve posted a bit about it over in how do we solve housing for digital nomads.

I had at one point planned building in a more remote location, but it would have lacked the dynamism of overlap between the two. Iโ€™m intrigued by using co-ownership to expand to additional locations but I hadnโ€™t considered your approach using a mix of owned and rented, which sounds easier to grow without further investment, especially into better connected and bigger cities when demand is established.

Thereโ€™s a guy who posted in the Facebook Coliving group and is planning on doing something related to thecaravanserai.co so movement is really increasing in the idea. The Copass guys are also playing with ideas to connect separately managed adhoc/independent locations into a larger network for members (but not for location operators), which I find really interesting.

An advantage of owning is that we could enable member movement across locations with security, that would otherwise be risky with only leases, at least until thereโ€™s adequate demand. But this is just an ideal to grow facilities together rather than apart.

I think it would be great to get space operators to bash out some points on how they might be willing to participate in a wider networkโ€”what could be contributed, what could be gained, and what acceptable risk levels are.

Quite apart from allowing member movement, Iโ€™d like to see โ€˜community managersโ€™ be able to reciprocally rotate amongst locations (and operators) to build stronger knowledge across itโ€ฆ Would love to hear what you think (and any other potential operators out there!).

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@skatkov 9yr

Lockers, standing desk (iโ€™m not using it constantly, but half of working time iโ€™m standing), air-conditioned room, room for calls, good chairs (not expensive, but comfortable).

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@marcob 9yr

@skat, good chairs is a good point - then again, if we all do standing desks we wont even need them :wink:

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@skatkov 9yr

I love standing desks, but canโ€™t really stand more then 4 hours a day. I believe that iโ€™m not the only person that mixes standing/normal desks.

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@marcob 9yr

true, I just like to switch working location every 3 hours or so - forces me to move around. I donโ€™t think I focus as well at standing desks. Do you feel any benefits from using standing desks over sitting?

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Make your co-living facility theme based. I wouldnโ€™t care much to live in a place with random nomads with wildly different goals from my own. Then Iโ€™d rather get my own place and go to a coworking place.

One example: Iโ€™m settled with my own clients/business and not looking into expanding into other areas or collaborating with others. So a co-living setup with focus on starting new businesses and talks about SEO would be rather uninteresting for me.

So instead make a co-living setup for people who really wants to learn Python, Photoshop, party, loose weight or ski or what-not. Just donโ€™t make it too generic.

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@fpietot 9yr

Totally agree with that. Many people tend to think this community is wildly uniform in term of expectations and goals but looks like to me it is much more fragmented than this.

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@marcob 9yr

@fpietot true; I think finding entrepreneurs with similar expectations is also important for the โ€œrightโ€ kind of resonance between participants.

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@marcob 9yr

@northcoffee Thanks for your comments, very valid points. In fact, we want to be able to make it as much of an intentional community as possible. One of the most important things is getting the right people that are on similar calibers as entrepreneurs and can more effectively help each other out - whether that is exchanges of services, sharing knowledge/information or building completely new businesses together. The idea is to bring together great minds that can further their current projects while being pampered and given the opportunity to explore a new culture abroad.

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What are the best places right now in the Caribbean/LatAM? (Also cheapest flights/accommodation?) Asking from the US.

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List of Visa/Residency Information in Table/Spreadsheet format?


by @innovatelife 3yr 3 years ago  | 2 comments

As part of signing up for this website I was hoping I would come across a list of Visa and/or Residency requirements by country ideally in a table format to assist with decision making. Does anybody recommend any other websites that might present the information in this format (or Google Spreadsheet)?

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Most Walkable Neighborhood / City In The World ?


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I love living in walkable areas of town. I can always find them. But now I'm wondering where in the world are the most walkable places? I'm imagining walk streets (no cars), zoning allowing both business and residential, parks or beaches ,etc.

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in Netherlands by @info132 3yr 3 years ago  | 4 comments

Hi guys,

After the Netherlands, the Bay Area, Colorado and being on the van life for 8 months, I am now in Sedona, AZ with a few other digital nomads. We are sharing a home here and are wondering if there are more like minded people in the area.

We do a bunch of hikes and campouts in the northern of Arizona. If you would like to connect with us, please do so :)

Val

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International number & internet?


by @leobassam 3yr 3 years ago  | 1 comment

Has anyone figured out a way to get setup with a virtual number and internet connection anywhere you go?

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Are there any tax issues I have to be aware of?


in Germany by @clara 3yr 3 years ago  | 0 comments

Hi everybody. I live and work in Germany and want to go to Canary Islands for 6 months to work from there. I'm going to keep my current job, just change the "home" in the home office part of things. Are there any tax issues I have to be aware of? I was reading about becoming a residence after 183 days, thus having to pay taxes there plus my employer having to register there. Does anybody know how it works exactly? Thanks a lot!

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Chiang Mai accommodation


in Chiang Mai , Thailand by @bertieb 3yr 3 years ago  | 0 comments

Can anyone recommend a good accommodation website for Chiang Mai?

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Is anyone travelling right now?


by @viktor 3yr 3 years ago  | 3 comments

Winter is coming and Iโ€™m feeling the ache of travelling after being stuck in the same place since the Pandemic started. Wondering if anyone is travelling right now? If so, where are you currently located and how is the situation where you are?

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I'm beginning my Nomadic journey - what advice do you have?


by @jacob_tr 7yr 7 years ago  | 8 comments

Hello Everyone,

On January 8, I set off on my Nomadic Journeys. I have a one way ticket to Iceland booked for a film shoot, and a flight into mainland Europe on the 20th, and from there I have no idea, and I am completely on my own.

What advice do you have? Right now I am feeling everything, from bad to good about it all, really can feel that safety/wool from underneath me get pulled away, I know Iโ€™m jumping out of my shell here.

(To give some background, Iโ€™m starting my nomad journey after having started a successful business, so financially I am set. Itโ€™s the question personally, mentally how do you cope in the beginning of leaving everything and going?)

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Age-old question... If you live in Thailand, what visa do you have?


in Thailand by @natalie1 7yr 7 years ago  | 7 comments

Hola, nomads! I am currently living in sleepy Ajijc, Mexico, and love having my easy 6 month tourist visa. However, Iโ€™ve stayed in Chaing Mai before and my heart is pulling me there again. Yet Iโ€™m daunted by the headache of visa runs. Iโ€™m American, so it looks like my options are that I can get a 6 month Multiple Entry visa, which does require me to leave every 60 days.
Does that mean I just cross borders via land and Iโ€™ll be good for another 60 days? The websites Iโ€™ve seen havenโ€™t been very clear.
Also, it looks like you need a minimum of $7,000 USD in the bank to get that visa. I donโ€™t have that, though I could do a cash transfer to my bank account from my credit card for a month to show it. How many bank statements do I need to show thereโ€™s $7,000 in my account?
Also, can I apply for the Multiple Entry from Thailand or only outside of it?
What visas do you use if youโ€™re there longer term?
I also looked into the Student visa, but the school I looked at required 8 hours a week of class. I work too much to do that.
My understanding is that if you are there, you can get a 2 month visa (possibly called the Single Entry visa), then have to fly out and come back from an international airport, and you can get another month, then do an extension for one more, then fly again. Am I correct? If so, that is a lot of traveling and extensionsโ€ฆ
Insight is appreciated!!

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What would the perfect AirBNB listing be for digital nomads?


by @dave_chakrabarti 8yr 8 years ago  | 8 comments

Iโ€™m toying with the idea of hosting on AirBNB, in a city that doesnโ€™t have a large digital nomad presence (Calcutta, India). What would the ideal hosting ad look like for a digital nomad?

My personal preferences:

  1. Clean (as clean / organized / decluttered as Iโ€™d expect a non-backpacker-y hotel to look like), so I actually feel like working. In India, this goes double for bathrooms; Iโ€™m willing to pay a lot more for a dry, clean bathroom.
  2. Fast, reliable wifi. Everyone seems to have a different definition of โ€œfastโ€ or โ€œbroadbandโ€, so some indication of actual speeds / bandwidth caps / reliability would be ideal, but I never see this in ads.
  3. Things within walking distance (mostly, I mean restaurants / bars, but sometimes department stores / malls / coffee shops are convenient).
  4. A couple of different places to work / read (hammock + desk, desk + coffee table on a balcony with a view of the mountains, standing desk + beanbag, etc).

I know thatโ€™s a pretty specific list, and most AirBNB hosts arenโ€™t developers, so much of this isnโ€™t likely on their radar. What would you guys ad to the list? What makes you AirBNB over a hotel, and / or what would be a must-have AirBNB feature?

Thanks,

D.

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Are you satisfied with the co-working space environment in Budapest / Hungary?


in Budapest , Hungary by @zoltanradics 8yr 8 years ago  | 4 comments

We are a group of freelancers working from home in Budapest and we are thinking about to open our own co-working space in the city. From freelancers to freelancers. Not in the hearth of the city (out of noise) but 10 minutes from the centre on the main tramline. (No. 4-6.) Friendly mood, 24/7 open, only environmental friendly solutions, good coffee, healthy food, sandwiches, snacks and beverages, proper price. Opinions?!

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What are some characteristics a perfect nomad house must have?


by @victorsuarez 8yr 8 years ago  | 8 comments

Hey guys, I am planning to start a Digital Nomad community in my country (Dominican Republic), so I would like to know all the things I need to do to make it work as well as possible.

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How to keep laptops clean in grimy environments


by @alehandrof 9yr 9 years ago  | 2 comments

Iโ€™m working for a few weeks near the sea and I need wifi. All the cafes are lined up on the main street running parallel to the beach. None of the cafes are air conditioned, relying on the wind to cool them. The ones that are more sheltered are incredibly hot during the day; the cooler ones tend to be grimier.

Iโ€™ve found a few places that are midway between heat & grime and further away from the beach. But the grime is worrying me. I have a soft cloth to wipe down my laptop down before returning it to its case, but Iโ€™m not sure what else might help.

Any other advice for keeping your laptop clean when youโ€™re working in this kind of environment? Any kit I should have brought along with me?

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