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How are Americans managing residency requirements?


by @opt 8yr  | 11 comments

Thanks to the forum and many hours’ worth of reading, I have a number of puzzle pieces, but am having some difficulty putting them all together as a cohesive plan.

This was evolving into an epic post (of heroes and dragons), but I think the crux of the thing is: everything basically requires a physical/street address somewhere in the US, correct? How are you doing this now, given current conditions/requirements?

For business formation, for a business checking account, and even for a personal account, it’s all about the physical address. For example, I believe I’ve read here that Charles Schwab (often recommended) may no longer be accepting addresses from mailing services such as Earth Class Mail and Traveling Mailbox, street-based or not. Correct? And that’s simply for a personal account–business stuff is always more complicated.

Assuming a “friends and family plan” is not an option, what to do?

One thing I think would work is to rent a cheap room or apartment in some state and use that as a base, but that’s an added cost/pain, and I don’t believe that’s what most people are doing.

This also has me wondering if it isn’t better to simply find a cheap domestic location and give up on the international plan. (But that sux.)

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@nomadicme 8yr

Perhaps it is true that banks will start to request re-verification of mailing addresses annually but to date, they are not doing so. I have had one instance where a bank asked me to update my physical address and so I did. I used an address where I live with a friend. However the rest of the banks solely require you to have a physical address when you open an account (which will be verified). Thereafter you can be nomadic and leave your address as is. Update the mailing address to your “mailing service” address and off you go.

To mitigate the risk while traveling open half a dozen checking accounts and debit cards. These days almost all online bank checking accounts are free and have low or no minimum deposit requirements. This way if you lose one or two you have others to fall back on (they are already open and ready to use). Only issue is to be sure you ACH or deposit money annually so they don’t go dormant.

Happy trails

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I was just forwarded to this discussion, so sorry for being late in the game. Has anyone tried using a Registered Agent to solve this conundrum? Registered agents are historically more used for annual business filings and such. Perhaps you could find a cool RA in your area that allows you to use the address for banking matters to. Assuming you opt in for e-statements, the RA shouldn’t receive anything. As a courtesy you would need to figure out how to limit the inevitable junk mail.

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Court-tested advocacy from a Texas-based support group for full-time rv-ers gives you the option to have “domicile” (ie full legal residence) at a Mail-Receiving Agent address in Texas. This is according to someone I spoke to (for free) from Loring & Associates, who have a specialty in affidavits of domicile for Texas, usually for RVers, but also for indefinite-term international travelers.

I hope they’re right, because I’m going to be testing this theory in a few weeks with a Traveling Mailbox address. :grimacing:

I’m a little sad I didn’t read johnny thejen’s post on the subject before changing all my addresses, because it sounds like Texas Home Base will actually give you a document (I believe an affidavit) you can use at the DMV! Traveling Mailbox definitely doesn’t do that.

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This is super helpful and thanks for posting. A document for DMV would be fantastic. Good luck with your experiment and do post an update, I have got to get out of Illinois tax situation!

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sounds like someone needs to start a nomad house in texas and rent out ‘rooms’ to nomads for them to receive their mail

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@ellen1 8yr

Due to the Patriot Act of 2003, you absolutely need a physical address to bank, to vote, to file taxes. You absolutely can not use a service such as Traveling Mailbox, Earth Class, etc., street-based or not, in lieu of a physical address.

I faced this issue a few months back and, as you, found it incredibly confusing and confounding. Many people responded to inquiries about the matter with stories of their using a mail service in the past—or still using one they have had for years.

But, you will also find a new and growing number of folks having problems—instances of folks whose accounts were frozen suddenly and without warning if they are currently using a digital mailbox (street-based or not); other people who can’t seem to open a new account using digital mailbox.

In fact, you might also have noticed that while Traveling Mailbox used to promote their viability for this precise use case, they actually no longer do. The last I spoke with them, they didn’t outright admit it (likely because the reality is not great for their business model) but they also no longer offered to refund any fees if the bank didn’t accept them as a physical address, which they had in the past.

So, why is this just now starting to emerge? And why is there so much conflicting information? It’s because banks are having to start cracking this year as the “grandfather” period of them not having to confirm that all account holders have an actual physical addresses is coming to a close.

So, there are still folks who use services like Traveling Mailbox for their physical address and think all is fine and dandy. And there are still banks where you might be able to change your address without having to provide proof of residency. But it’s risky business—a gamble that your bank won’t just freeze your accounts at some point in the near future.

Here’s the good news—you absolutely can use a friend’s or family member’s address as your primary/physical/residential address. I double checked this as the friend whose address I use is a state’s attorney so he has to be absolutely legal in everything.

Here’s what I did:

  1. Secure the required documentation for getting a new driver’s license at the new address. (This is not easy, in fact it is a horrible pit of despair but it can be done).

  2. Get both a Driver’s License and State ID with the new address so you have two forms of ID.

  3. Use said IDs as proof of your new physical address.

  4. After registering your physical address, add a “mailing address” to as many accounts as you can to reduce the burden on your friends and streamline getting your physical mail. Note: some accounts don’t offer a mailing address and there’s no getting around that.

  5. Answer carefully whenever registering international travel on your accounts as banks will cancel your account if they think/decide you are out of the country for longer than they feel comfortable—which is completely random and makes virtually no sense. I had two banks cancel my account because I couldn’t give them a precise date of return to the US.

Hope this helps.

Don’t give up international travel just because the US has regressed into a feudal society wherein you must be a landowner or have a landowner vouch for you in order to be a participating member of society! In fact, use it as a good reason to get out and explore how amazing it can be to live in countries that are actually free.

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@opt 8yr

:wink:

That said, this is an informative response, and if one reads the boards and blogs, it’s apparent that the word isn’t quite out yet that the situation has changed. Either some people are still squeaking through using mailbox services (perhaps to be identified later if/when banks check) or signed up in the past while it was still feasible. Or neither.

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

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@ellen1 8yr

Ugh, totally read that wrong! I thought you were saying you assumed a friends & family plan was not an option… but I see now you were saying that it isn’t an option for you.

I gots nothing for you then. I tried to do the no friends and family option to get residency in Texas so I could avoid Illinois stupid-high taxes (made higher by residing in Chicago…) but was completely unable to accomplish without a fair amount of skating along the edge.

I considered the renting out a smallish place option until I realized that I’d end up having to then add insurance and all that. So, just tossing out the thought that you’re adding some additional complexity by renting.

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@opt 8yr

No worries, it seems like that’s what many, if not most, people are doing.

I don’t want to go the path of renting a small place either, but done cheaply it would still result in a huge federal tax savings. Assuming the banks don’t decide you’re not home often enough, as you’ve suggested. (Is there no way to win?)

For others using family addresses, e-billing would help reduce the amount of personal mail received. But with a past business address I’m accustomed to seeing heaps of junk mail from companies that purchase lists of new business owners. I can’t imagine inflicting that on someone else! (Also, if one becomes “suspect” in the eyes of the powers-that-be, what effect could that have on those “harboring”…?)

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My boyfriend uses a mail service and he hasn’t had any problems, so not sure if that’s actually an issue. I use my best friend’s address and just make sure everything is paperless, so she very rarely ever gets a piece of mail. I understand not having access to family, but you don’t have one friend who’d let you use his or her address? Again, you can make it so that the person rarely/never even gets paper mail.

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this is what I’m going to do when my mom goes nomad next year (she gets my very limited mail now). I have a friend and I’m just going to pay her like $10 a month (cheaper than a service and she gets a little extra cash as a single mom) to take pics of anything that comes in for me. but I get maybe 1-2 pieces of actual mail a month. the rest is just adverts.

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by @panoramica 5yr 5 years ago  | 3 comments

I’m currently doing some work through Upwork, but it’s sporadic and I’m keen to get more active on other platforms like Freelancer, Toptal, CodeMentor, Fiverr etc

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I’ve done a quick Google and turned up a few names including Salesforce, Zoho, Nutshell, HighRise, Base, Nimble, etc etc. But testing out all these products isn’t all that appealing, so I thought I’d ask here first :slight_smile:

Ideally I’d like something that integrates with remote job boards in some way.

Feature list

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in Estonia by @edusantorini 6yr 6 years ago  | 7 comments

So, I’ve been looking into e-residency and moving my business to Estonia the past few weeks.
I’m still a tax resident in Germany and therefore fear I’ll be suspect to CFC laws. I somehow can’t find any reliable info on this and I don’t feel like reading through the whole law, so just wondering if anyone knows how CFC laws in EU countries come into practice. What taxes do I need to pay exactly? As soon as I cash out (dividends), as far as I can see I need to pay 20% income tax in Estonia. Then what? Of course, I would need to pay income tax in Germany. What taxes do I need to pay besides these?
And if I keep the money in Estonia/reinvest it, am I right that I wouldn’t need to pay any taxes at all? Only for the money I cash out of Estonia/the business?

I’m by the way not doing this to evade taxes, taxes are secondary. I primarily simply want to move my business activities out of Germany + the all-digital concept and the bookkeeping service of agencies like leapIN are interesting.

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I’m a U.S. accountant who works with Americans who live abroad, ask me anything!

 

by @olwagner 6yr 6 years ago  | 100 comments

Hi everyone,

If you have a U.S. tax question or would like some U.S. tax insight on your business/structure, ask away!

I have been preparing tax returns for US citizens abroad since 2012. I can answer any question in US tax with an international flavor. I operate 1040abroad.com and I have maintained a blog at taxsamurai.com

I look forward to answering all your questions. And if you are in Ho Chi Minh City in December, let’s meet !!!

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Malta- Ordinary Residency


in Malta by @lukasbergner 7yr 7 years ago  | 0 comments

With 2018 right around the corner, the first thing I am going to do is find a new home base. The single most important factor on which I decided where I want to go was tax advantages. Right now, after reading several posts on this forum, it’s probably going to be Malta. I am from the EU which should make the process pretty easy.

I read a few posts on here which answered a lot of questions, but what I am looking for is mainly confirmation on that what I am planning to do works like I think it will.

1. Is a postal address sufficient for gaining and maintaining residency?
I already know that you are supposed to spend more time in Malta than in any other country to gain tax residency. However I’d rather rent an Airbnb for those months instead of a renting out an apartment for the whole year. Ideally I’d get a post box to have a permanent mailing address. Would that work?

2. What exactly is foreign sourced income?
So as I understood it, you don’t pay taxes on foreign sourced income which is NOT remitted to a Maltese bank account. My main income comes from websites so the income is sourced from E-Commerce stores, none of them in any form related to Malta. I’d still work on this while in Malta, although the income is pretty much passive. I am aware that it’s beneficial to pay at least some tax to avoid complications.

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Working remotely in New Zealand and getting permanent residency?


in New Zealand by @mmorris 8yr 8 years ago  | 4 comments

So… Trump is Prez. The world looks to the US as a role model. He doesn’t think Climate Change is real. We’re !@#$ed.

Canadian Citizen here. Was considering Costa Rica for a long term solution, but they won’t deal with the impact as well. We were always fond of NZ and my parents spend at least 3 months of the year there along with knowing some citizens.

Questions:

  1. How can we gain a Permanent Residency Visa? It seems the Skilled Migrant Category makes the most sense as I am a Systems Analyst (by NAFTA requirments) and my wife could probably qualify as a Nutritionist/Naturopath/Counsellor. Anyone have experience with this path?
  2. I currently work for a US non-profit remotely. Does NZ allow for this? do I need a job in NZ to be considered for the Skilled Migrant Category? Can I work for the US org while my Permanent Residency is processed?

Thanks!

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How to best set up your taxes, residency and and business as a digital nomad?

 

by @theglobalcitizen 8yr 8 years ago  | 60 comments

The purpose of this post is to discuss the benefits, downsides, and challenges of setting up an international business.

Comment with what you want to know, or with what knowledge you can offer others based on your experience.

  • Do you want to set up an offshore company but don’t know
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  • Do you have questions with setting up legal entities or bank accounts?
  • Do you have questions with regards to paying taxes and residency.

Before becoming a DN I worked in Dubai as a corporate service provider. I helped 100s of international entrepreneurs to set up their companies, engage in tax planning and obtaining residency. Most of them in Dubai, but also in other jurisdictions like Panama, Hong Kong & Seychelles.

Share your biggest struggles or tips!

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Anyone here who doesn't officially have a residency?


by @absokim 8yr 8 years ago  | 16 comments

Hi everyone,

Is it illegal to not have a residency?

I’m from Sweden and make all my money online. Now I’m going to become a non-resident for tax purposes.

My thinking is that I want to live in Australia for a few months of the year and then live in 2 other places a year. Basically… I’m looking to escape tax and not have an official residency anywhere. At the same time, I’m gonna take great care avoiding to stay long enough in each place so I’m not obliged to pay tax.

The thing is… On the visa into Australia I have to type in residency, and when I don’t legally have one, what the heck am I suppose to type in?

Could I just type in my old address in Sweden? (Or maybe my parent’s address). Or would that be considered illegal seeing I don’t live there but more importantly I don’t have residency there anymore (though I will of course always remain a citizen)?

Curious to hear your thoughts about this and if maybe someone is already doing this and living without an official residency.

(The ultimate goal with all of this is of course to avoid giving away half of my hard-earned money every month while being able to live a more comfortable life in 3 places a year)

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Is Panama a good destination for tax residency for digital nomads?

 

in Panama by @anonym 8yr 8 years ago  | 23 comments

I’m from Europe and is looking for a country where I can declare my residency, mostly for tax purposes. Panama seems to fit everything. The plan is:

  • Get permanent residency using “Friendly Nations Visa”
  • Create a company and get a work permit
  • Get clients to pay me in that company

Since Panama has territorial tax, all income earned outside Panama has zero taxation.

Is it just that good or is there some hidden catch? I live in a Scandinavian country and they just hate to let people go. Will there be problems in paradise?

The plan is to visit Panama once a year and after five years get a passport.

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How to avoid Tax Residency/Wealth Tax in Spain?


in Spain by @palimpalim 8yr 8 years ago  | 4 comments

I’m planning to move to Spain this year, but Spain has a wealth tax for worldwide assets over 700.000€ if you are classified as a resident which I want to avoid.

I’ll try to be a short as possible:

  • I am a german citizen and I’m renting a flat in London, UK but haven’t stayed there a single day in 2016. (110 days in different countries in Asia, 10 days in Spain, 30 days in germany)
  • I own a flat in germany that I rent out to tenants (limited tax liability for the rental income in germany), but besides that I don’t have any income except for a few dividends from my stocks
  • I am planning to fly to Thailand for 2 months beginning of December 2016

Although I am renting the UK flat until December 2016 I prefer not to be in UK, which would mean that I would not be classified as a UK-resident because I would not meet any of the automatic UK or sufficient tie tests.

I’d like to move to Spain as soon as possible but would be willing to stay out of it for x weeks to avoid being classified as a resident and save wealth tax.

Can anyone help me in this matter? whats my best line?

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Can I have an offshore company but still keep my residency?


by @neutron 9yr 9 years ago  | 3 comments

Hi,

I’m from the UK and looking at setting up a business offshore. However, I’m wondering is it possible to become an employee of this offshore company that I set up, while remaining a UK tax resident?

Are there any provisions in the UK tax system surrounding whether you are a sole director of the company etc?

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Can I make my personal (tax) residency a virtual office?


by @nevergoingback 9yr 9 years ago  | 12 comments

At this moment I am traveling the world. It has been a year since I have unsubscribed form the Netherlands and just keep on wanting to travel. I love the way I am living now but I do prefer to have a “home” base. And I think the best thing todo is get residency in a country where they are not counting the days you are there and has a territorial tax system.

My picks are:
Costa Rica, Panama, Malaysia

My question is however, because I am not going to be there alot I think its a waste of money to rent a appartment for 1500 or so per mont. Especially if I consider that my home address where I will be receiving bank docs etc I also do not want to have that sent to a sketchy home.

Do you happen to know a solution to this? For example would it be possible to have my home address at a Regus virtual office so that my mail will be handeled as wel?

I know the best option is to buy a house but that would be a very expensive mailbox :stuck_out_tongue:
Hope somebody could help me on this!

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Which US state should I set up residency in?


by @simplgy 9yr 9 years ago  | 13 comments

I’m trying to decide which US state to set up residence in.

This is a complicated question. For one thing, deciding where you want to reside depends on things like:

  • Income Tax (None in FL, TX, NV, WA, SD, TN (excpt dvnds)
  • Sales Tax (especially for vehicles)
  • Property Tax
  • Health Insurance rules for those who aren’t in-state much

And requirements like:

  • How long do you have to be in-state?
  • How often do you have to renew Driver’s License and Registration?
  • Can you get out of jury duty because you’re gone?

RVers have been doing this for a while:

And there are some new complications:

The Patriot Act now requires that financial institutions have a residential address on file for each of their customers, and it explicitly excludes the use of mail forwarding addresses for this purpose.

So I wanted to start a thread that gathers some good information on how people make this decision, problems they’ve had, and things they’ve learned.

For me it might make sense to stay in FL because it’s tax-free, I have the license already, and they have no in-state requirement. But I have no family or real address there if it’s ever required, and I don’t see myself owning land there because it’s too far from a major airport.

Nevada or TX makes sense if I’m going to buy some land and stay in the winters–both are by good airports and have strong tech communities.

Maybe folks want to contribute to a spreadsheet that has some of this data filled in? Or we can keep it in this thread?

For most of us that are earning right now, the short list is probably the states with no income tax, but there are other considerations and I want to make sure we know what we’re getting in to.

How have you all made this decision?

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Which is the best US state for establishing residency for mostly passive income?


by @nihilista 9yr 9 years ago  | 2 comments

I figure it might be a good idea to change my state residency before I leave in order to lower taxes, if this is even possible and legal. Perhaps Nevada that doesn’t charge income tax? (I’m currently in CA.) If I return to the US I am pretty sure I’d want to live in AZ, however, so I’d have to change residencies again.

Most of my income is passive from rental properties and investments. My accountant knew very little about this. Any good source of info out there? Thanks!

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Any Americans have an expat-savvy tax person to recommend?


by @gigigriffis 9yr 9 years ago  | 7 comments

My tax firm just did something shady, so I’m thinking if I can find someone in time I’d like to make a switch. Anyone have a recommendation?

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