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How is Malaga in Spain for digital nomads?

 

in Malaga, Spain by @flowen | 5yr  | 20 comments

Has anyone been to Malaga before and if so, anything to recommend? Iโ€™m thinking of staying put there for December + January and then probably move on to Las Palmaโ€™s or Barcelona for a month. Maybe go to Asia again but weโ€™ll see what happens.

Iโ€™m looking for a nice place to stay, moderately cheap. Heard a place is quite easy to find for around 300-400 euroโ€™s, but can anyone confirm this?

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@gigigriffis | 5yr

Iโ€™m with wanderingdev on this one. Malaga was pretty meh to me and I didnโ€™t love the surrounding area (with one exception - Frigiliana in the mountains is super pretty!). Iโ€™m also not a Barcelona fan. I preferred Seville and Toledo - Seville for the charm and the food; Toledo for the scenery.

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

I havenโ€™t been to tarifa, so I canโ€™t comment, sorry. Personally I am planning to base myself out of Seville this January when Iโ€™m in spain. I really enjoyed it when I was there last February.

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@richardh | 5yr

Just to echo what has already been said, Malaga boring, Barcelona touristy/expensive, Seville just right! They have fast cable connections too.

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Iโ€™ve been using Barca as a base for the past 5 months, popping backwards and forwards. It is touristy but thereโ€™s still a great vibe. Iโ€™m enjoying rural Catalonia at present.

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@bavals | 5yr

To those whoโ€™ve been staying in BCN โ€œlonger than anticipatedโ€ โ€“ there are in fact quite a few of you and the phenomenon is now on the mainstream media radar.

If you can read Spanish, check out this article in yesterdayโ€™s La Vanguardia:

โ€œBarcelona se convierte en uno de los destinos favoritos de los nรณmadas digitalesโ€ http://www.lavanguardia.com/local/barcelona/20151224/301023488559/barcelona-destino-nomadas-digitales.html

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I was able to translate enough to get the gist, thank you for posting!

Iโ€™ve spent the past two months travelling through Andalusia. I only spent a week in Tarifa but loved it and easily met a nice nomad bunch. At this time of year it will be relaxed and I intend to head back sometime in Feb. However, for people used to the city it is small.

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@lamby | 5yr

Whereabouts? Am currently just outside BCN and loving it; can always get my dose of the city on FGC for โ‚ฌ2 anywayโ€ฆ

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Iโ€™m currently staying with a family outside of Girona, how about you??

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@lamby | 5yr

Ooh Girona. Next time in Catalunya I think Iโ€™ll head that way - am north-west just by Molins De Rei - about 60 minutes to centre of the city. Any particular advice for Girona out of interest?

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

personally iโ€™m not a fan of barcelona. I like it, but I wouldnโ€™t want to live there. There are so many other cities that are better in Spain, IMO. For me, Barcelona just has WAAAAAYYYYY too much of a tourist base.

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@jtompl | 5yr

Yeah, Barcelona is great, I havenโ€™t found anybody yet who didnโ€™t enjoy it.

Sevilla is also good. And a bit cheaper than Bcn, I think

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@gigigriffis | 5yr

Me! Iโ€™ve been to Barcelona a bunch of times and never enjoyed the city at all.

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@patrick_stiles | 5yr

My really good friend was there for most of last year. He didnโ€™t meet any nomads. Not that he was really trying. But it sounded like a bunch of tourist.

And the โ€˜laid back/slowโ€™ culture is super common there. He basically said โ€œdonโ€™t go there.โ€

Iโ€™m in Barcelona nowโ€ฆ And I love it!

Iโ€™m thinking of staying longer than anticipated.

And you can get down to Malaga if you want, really easy. I think BCN is a good base. But it depends on what you want. The amenities of the city are more important to me than everyday access to something like KiteSurfing (not sure if they have this in Malaga, but that would be the reason I go to some place like that).

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

more culture, better food, better bars, actual night life, nicer city, more to doโ€ฆ

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

i lived there last january and february. it was completely dead. i wish iโ€™d stayed in seville instead.

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@flowen | 5yr

rly? damn, haha, well iโ€™m off there with some friends. Not sure how long Iโ€™ll stay. So what made you really like Seville?

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@raisononline | 5yr

Hey - Was thinking of spending Jan to March in Tarifa - do you think it would be a similar vibe (ie. deadโ€ฆ) then and do you have any reccomendations for Spanish places for that time of year? Cheers

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@thetwopct | 5yr

Iโ€™m heading to Tarifa for at least a month in a couple of days, and a few other nomads I know are heading that way too. Itโ€™s supposed to pick up after Christmas. Let me know if you make it!

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@wanderingdev | 5yr

i might head down there. i am visiting a friend in valencia for a few days starting the 7th, but then i have to figure out where to go until the 21st. tarifa sounds like a good option.

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@pilcrow | 5yr

I left Tarifa a week ago after 10 days or so. I wouldnโ€™t call it โ€œdeadโ€, at least not by comparison to similarly sized spanish (small) towns. But it has the โ€œsurfing crowdโ€ factor for it, which means that for such a small place there is an astonishing amount of modern looking cafes, hostels etc. I believe anywhere in the world, where there are surfers, there are good cafes. Also it has kilometers of nice beach (most of the rest of the coast between there and Italy is often private or heavily built up), so the surrounding area feels quite natural. And if you need a dose of city, thereโ€™s Cรกdiz to the north and Gibraltar to the east (Gib even has a big Morrisonโ€™s supermarket for british products).
One thing to keep in mind is the siesta, which means that even the nice cafes like Bossa or Azul will close between 2 and 6pm, so at that time, Tarifa really is dead. It is also a passing-through place for people going to Morocco (the ferry leaves from the center of town), so that adds to some internationality as well.

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What is the best online insurance for digital nomads ?


by @berberos | 6d 5 days ago | 4 comments

Hi guys ! hope you are doing well.

I would love to get your feedback regarding the best insurance for digital nomads. i'm traveling around Asia since 1 year and for next 4 or 5 years. Would love to buy an insurance to cover especially :

- health

- laptop, phone ...

- Flights

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What's the best SIM card you can get for traveling to Spain?


in Spain by @gabygarreau | 2mo 1 month ago | 3 comments

Hi! I want to relocate to Spain and I was wondering if someone can recommend a SIM card with a good data package.

Thanks

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Any Ph.D students dissertating while a digital nomad?


by @larsheather | 4mo 4 months ago | 5 comments

Anyone know of any groups or resources for Ph.D. students working on dissertation while living as a digital nomad? I know there are several virtual writing groups around, but wondered if there were any specifically for digital nomads, particularly those who are dissertating.

Thanks!

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Does international health insurance for digital nomads exist?

 

by @al_steffen | 5mo 4 months ago | 59 comments

Hey Nomads!

Iโ€™m looking for an international health insurance (no travel insurance) for my nomadic life. It should cover the basic services and at least be accepted in the EU (itโ€™s ok if itโ€™s not accepted in the US as Iโ€™m aware they rarely are). Nice to have: enter into a contract online. Anyone got a good experience or a recommendation?

Thanks in advance!

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I dream of being a digital nomad? How do I do it?


by @programmingmark | 6mo 5 months ago | 2 comments

Hello digital nomad!

I dream of being an independent digital nomad. But it feels very elusive & unattainable with my success rate. In full disclosure, whilst I have dreamed about making money online since high school; I have not earned a single cent making money online. $0, nada, zilch!! On the contrary, I have spent a lot of time & money on books, podcasts. Even though I have spent a lot of time reading/listening to others, I do not have anything to show for it!

I have made attempts in the past to start an online business, but these fizzle out quite quickly when I do not see traction especially when the goal I have set myself is too high.

Instead of reaching for the ultimate nomadic lifestyle goal, I want to start much smaller. Really small! I am simply looking to make $50 profit per month from a new online business. Thatโ€™s it.

I need some advice from you please!

  • Is $50 profit too low? How long did it take you to earn $50 profit per month?

  • What is a good way of achieving this goal?

Thanks
Mark
aka the $0 online business entrepreneur

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How do digital nomads pay tax?


by @rodriigovieira | 7mo 6 months ago | 19 comments

Hello everyone! Iโ€™m new here and probably this is a very newbie question, but it doesnโ€™t leave my head.

How do you, nomads, pay your taxes? I mean, if youโ€™re constantly traveling, how are you going to pay taxes for a certain country if you are going to stay there a short period of time?
Or do you return to your โ€œoriginal countryโ€ and then pay them?

By the way, this forum has very nice cool formatting features! :smile:

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My first time nomad-ing... Spain or Portugal?


in Portugal by @jasraj | 7mo 6 months ago | 6 comments

Hey everyone,

Iโ€™m a freelance + nomad newbie, off for my 1st proper trip in May. Iโ€™m wanting to spend a month somewhere and go from there.

I just came back from Slovenia/Ljubljana and loved it there (just a week). I donโ€™t mind โ€œsleepierโ€ places par-say, as long as theyโ€™re close to a beach or nature of some kind. In fact, I kinda like places less-busy and a bit smaller/cosier.

Iโ€™m been swaying towards Porto, but have been impressed by the rave reviews Iโ€™ve seen for Valencia.

-> Have you every nomad-ed in a Spanish/Portuguese city? Iโ€™d love to know where and what you liked/disliked :slight_smile:

Thanks! :slight_smile:

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Best place for Digital Nomad in Latin America?


by @rose_davis | 8mo 8 months ago | 7 comments

Hi!

I am planning to move to Latin America for 3-4 months (Oct-January). Iโ€™ve narrowed down 6 different places that I want to visit before committing to settling down, but Iโ€™d love to get some community input.

Here are the cities Iโ€™m considering:

  • Quito, Ecuador
  • Cuenca, Ecuador
  • Medellin, Columbia
  • Cartagena, Columbia
  • Antigua, Guatemala
  • San Marcos La Laguna, Guatemala

The most important things Iโ€™m looking for:

  • Fast/easily accessible internet
  • Easy to meet other nomads/make friends in general
  • Safe for women
  • Some sort of spiritual community (Iโ€™m also a yoga teacher)
  • Easily walkable city

Anyone have any experience with these places and can give some insight? Iโ€™m also completely open to other recommendations.

Thanks!
Rose

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How do we solve housing for digital nomads?

 

by @levelsio | 9mo 8 months ago | 61 comments

Thereโ€™s been a lot of discussion on this recently.

Nomads usually stay in hostels, hotels and short-term apartments. But itโ€™s all not very optimal.

Iโ€™ve heard people suggest getting funding and building a network of houses you can stay at for a subscription price (e.g. Bruno Haid is working on that).

I donโ€™t want do physical stuff, so Iโ€™m thinking of building a platform around making housing better for nomads.

What are the housing problems nomads face? And how can we solve them with products/services?

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How is Sicily for digital nomads?


by @gaelm | 10mo 10 months ago | 15 comments

Hi all, I was looking for a cool spot in Southern Europe for winter and Iโ€™m considering Sicilyโ€ฆ Have you ever been there? If yes, how was your experience? If not, why?
thanks!

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How is Bari, Italy for digital nomads?


in Bari, Italy by @mitch_dina | 10mo 10 months ago | 7 comments

Greetings!
Does anyone have experience in Bari, Italy please? We are thinking of going from Dubrovnik, Croatia to Bari by boat in mid-March. Has anyone taken a boat across? Is it nice or can it be choppy? (We are trying to avoid planes, to reduce our carbon footprint, so adding more surface travel.) Also, any info you might be able to offer about Bari and the surrounds? Next step will likely be trains up Italy as the Spring progresses.

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How is Mauritius for digital nomads?


in Mauritius by @wakkos | 11mo 11 months ago | 14 comments

Hello all,

Iโ€™m planning on spending a couple of month in Mauritius Island and even when Iโ€™ve been there for a week, never rented or worked there.

Does anyone here has tips or experience to share about Mauritius?

Cheers!

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Are there any digital nomad fitness retreats?


by @ryanjames | 11mo 11 months ago | 1 comment

Hey all:

Does anyone here have any experience attending a full time fitness bootcamp or a fitness resort while working? I know there is one in Cambodia for digital nomads (Fitness Retreat Resort Kep Gym), unfortunately the time difference vs my work schedule would make my life suck if I tried to go there. Iโ€™m looking for a place between US and Europe timezones that lets you live with them, kicks your butt with fitness, but would also have good WiFi/accommodate working eight hours a day. Iโ€™m also open to other tangential ideas for something close-ish to get that same experience.

Thanks for any help!

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Best place to set up a company selling digital services?


by @pras_k | 12mo 11 months ago | 10 comments

Whatโ€™s the best place?
For residency Iโ€™m looking at Portugal and they have the NHR (non habitual resident) program which would exempt dividends from foreign income.
So all Iโ€™m really looking for is the best place to actually start the company.
Biggest factors are of course low taxes and ease of setting up the company plus a business bank account that enables me to receive payments through Stripe.

What I found so far:
Hong Kong
Corporate tax rate of 16.5% (8.25% for the first HK$2 million)
โŠ•/โŠ– offshore income from outside HK is exempt from taxation but itโ€™s not clear whether this can be done in the first year and prorated or if itโ€™s only through filing the offshore exemption claim. This might take two years and requires not income from HK at all. More info on that would be great
โŠ– seems very difficult to get a business bank account
โŠ– necessary services and fees are roughly around โ‚ฌ2000 / year
โŠ– accounting requirements seem to be very strict
โŠ• Doesnโ€™t require local partner
โŠ• Agencies available that seem to handle most of the work

Singapore
Corporate tax rate of 17% (0% on the first S$100k, 8.5% up to S$300k)
โŠ– requires a local director. What are the implications of this?

Malta
Corporate tax rate of 35%
There is the โ€œfull imputation systemโ€ but I donโ€™t really understand it.
"In most cases, the tax refund to the shareholder is 6/7 of the tax paid by the company on profits distributed as dividends. The tax refund rate may be different in the following cases: " This would result in an effective corporate tax of around 5%.
โŠ– European customers would have to pay VAT and Iโ€™d have to deal with that

Cyprus
Corporate tax rate of 12.5% and there seem to be ways to lower this
โŠ– European customers would have to pay VAT and Iโ€™d have to deal with that
โŠ– requires staying in Cyprus for 2 months / year

I find it surprising how much research this requires and how much โ€œit dependsโ€ information is out there when Iโ€™d assume that there are probably thousands of digital nomads who probably have very similar requirements.

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Do you "out" yourself as a digital nomad?


by @larsheather | 1yr 1 year ago | 2 comments

When you meet new people or reconnect with old friends, do you โ€œoutโ€ yourself as a digital nomad? The simple question โ€œwhere do you live?โ€ makes us uncertain now. We wonder if some places may be less welcoming to digital nomads, or if โ€œdigital nomadโ€ has a negative connotation in some places. If you are forthcoming from the start, does your status as a digital nomad make it hard to form friendships?

We would love to hear how other people navigate thisโ€ฆ how to balance being authentic in relationships vs. withholding the context (and allowing people to assume youโ€™re on vacation, for example).

Thanks!

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Property Ownership - should digital nomads buy properties?


by @sparrow_23 | 1yr 1 year ago | 16 comments

I have been a digital nomad for the last couple of years. I have always worked in tech and now run a couple of profitable online businesses that give me a reliable income and allow me to fund a nomadic lifestyle.

I recently exited one of my businesses and I am considering to invest the income from the sale in properties, mainly for 2 reasons:

a) I donโ€™t want to keep wasting my money in renting apartments across the cities I stay

b) I believe in properties as investment and I want to diversify my investment portfolio (mainly stocks)

After years of constant wander from one place to another, now I am the type of digital nomad who sticks to few locations: I mainly rotate across 4 places each year (San Francisco, Medellin, Berlin, Bali). Buying a house in each of those location would be difficult and too expensive. Therefore, I was wondering if there was any sort of service that combines an investment opportunity with the ability to access different properties around the world (even if just for a limited time per year) ?

Imagine living in 4 cities per year and having a house in each place that you can exclusively use for 3 months and at the same time having your investment growing (this depending on the market, of course). Wouldnโ€™t that be great? I believe it could be done via a property fund selling you a share and giving you access to some of their properties for a limited timeframe each year.

Has anyone heard of anything like that?

Thanks!

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Apple TV and Netflix: Do these work for Nomads?


by @lricci | 1yr 1 year ago | 8 comments

We launch in 2 weeks. In the US, we use Apple TV and Netflix regularly. Do these work abroad?

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Ko Lanta or Ko Phangan - which island is better for a digital nomad?


in Ko Lanta, Thailand by @melinda | 1yr 1 year ago | 6 comments

Iโ€™m currently in Penang, Malaysia and I was thinking to head to Thailand next. What are the best islands in Thailand to get some work done? I was considering either Ko Lanta or Ko Phangan because those both islands have coworking spaces. I might need to take some client calls, also video. Is the wifi good enough? Are there any other differences between the islands?

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Do any digital nomads travely solely by motorcycle?


by @fraserdeans | 1yr 1 year ago | 10 comments

Last summer I spent some time travelling through Thailand and Cambodia and jumped on mopeds to get around. I fell in love with them, the freedom, the ability to get off the tourist trail and see areas of a country not written about in tour books.

Recently a friend of mine cycled from London through Western Europe down to Morocco. His journey, stories and photo blog have all inspired me to see Europe by road rather than missing it all by plane.

Iโ€™ve been encouraged to do the same longer term through Europe. Next month Iโ€™m heading off to Spain to start that journey.

I was wondering if any nomads here are on similar journeys? Does anyone motorcycle between cities setting up to work for a couple weeks then moving on?

If so, have you got any advice/tips for someone just starting that journey?

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Where should I register my company as a digital nomad? Singapore, Hong Kong?


in Singapore by @raphadk | 1yr 1 year ago | 14 comments

Hey guys, hereโ€™s a question Iโ€™ve been asking nomads I meet everywhere, but still havenโ€™t found good information. My startups mostly focus on american and european markets but I donโ€™t have a registered company, nor I live permanently on any of these countries.

I get the cash payments online in paypal (or adsense) and transfer it to Thailand (or Malaysia, or Bali, or Brazil, or wherever Iโ€™m at). The thing isโ€ฆ for low volume living expenses it seems fine, but as I scale the business, Iโ€™m starting to think more and more about fiscal law.

A fellow nomad told me to transfer it to Singapore, Hong Kong or The Virgin Islands, and then use an international credit card anywhere. I donโ€™t know if itโ€™s the best way to optimize thisโ€ฆ any ideas?

Also, could there be any problems in selling to these countries without a registered local company?

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