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How much does air quality matter to you when you choose your locations?


by @loniklara 7yr  | 11 comments

Hey everyone! This is a question Iโ€™m asking out of curiosity since Iโ€™ve lived in South Korea for several years, been to China, Thailand and the Philippines and have recently traveled to Malaysia and Vietnam. By no means is pollution unique to Asia, but much of the developing process involves CO2 emissions and places like Indonesia and Vietnam produce a lot of smoke in the air by burning rice fields. Personally, this really puts me off from visiting these countries for any substantial period of time so I was wondering if itโ€™s a factor for you as well, or do you just deal with it - and if so, for how long?

I think Iโ€™m admittedly pretty sensitive to air quality because Iโ€™m prone to dust allergy, and especially since I have reaped the benefits of living in clean places like Sweden and Finland in the past. But I canโ€™t imagine this not being an important factor especially for people who have children or health issues. Iโ€™d love to get your thoughts on this :smile:

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I didnโ€™t notice a problem in HCMC or Hanoi when I was there. But Iโ€™m in Mexico City now and itโ€™s pretty bad, my throat often feels a bit gross, and when you head out of the city a bit you can really see it. I would certainly think about it when considering whether to come back here, especially for more than a few weeks.

It does seem like the city wants to improve on it, they have a good cycling program now for example, hopefully it will improve in a few years.

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@repat 7yr

Pollution levels are not always the same, though on average itโ€™s pretty bad in developing countries as everybody here is saying. But also in Paris and Athens, cities in definitely developed countries, itโ€™s sometimes quite bad.
Thereโ€™s apps that can show you how the pollution is at the moment and whatโ€™s recommended (not) to do.
I met the guys from Plume Labs the other day in Paris so Iโ€™d recommend them: https://www.plumelabs.com/

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It matters hugely to me. I wonโ€™t even consider places with bad pollution.

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@loniklara 7yr

Can I ask where youโ€™ve been so far considering that youโ€™ll only go to places with decent air quality?

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I donโ€™t do cities. Iโ€™ve just spent the summer in the mountains in the north of Herault, in the Languedoc.

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@levelsio 7yr

I think thatโ€™s really the point, most countries are fine as long as you go outside the greater metropolitan areas.

Unfortunately, thatโ€™s usually also where itโ€™s most fun (for me at least) :slight_smile:

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@mossy2100 7yr

Having lived in Bangkok and found it unsustainable as a home for this reason, I consider it quite important.

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@nomadtax 7yr

Itโ€™s also a concern for me although not a deal breaker.

Iโ€™ve spent a considerable amount of time living in Asia (including China) and Iโ€™ve found that overall there are two types of air pollution and their effect on quality of life are dramatically different.

First of all there is the Chinese style smog. Yes itโ€™s bad health wise but itโ€™s not in your face, at least not in Shanghai where motorbikes are rare and cars are forced to use better fuel. Itโ€™s simply there but itโ€™s easy to forget especially in densely built areas where itโ€™s not visible.

Then there is the south east Asia style air pollution. That one is bad, real bad. It comes mostly from traffic and itโ€™s literally in your face all the time when you walk around. This type of pollution is practically impossible to ignore and makes practicing any urban sports impossible. Not to mention the burning seasonโ€ฆ

Iโ€™ve posted an air pollution heat map on my blog, it really illustrate well where the problem areas are and might be useful to some of you.

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@levelsio 7yr

Huge concern for me. Iโ€™m from the Netherlands where air quality is relatively good.

Living in developing countries, one of the first things youโ€™ll notice in the big cities is the crazy amount of cars and traffic. And itโ€™s the worst type of polluting cars on the road since they hardly regulate.

Itโ€™s the same in South America to South East Asia.

Thereโ€™s some places that really go next level with pollution though. Manila is a good example, where the old jeepneys drive around with just an exhaust of black smoke constantly. Bali is another one, where itโ€™s normal for people to burn their trash (including lots of plastics). Many times next to your apartment/hotel window.

Iโ€™m not bitter about it, thatโ€™s what you get in developing countries. But thatโ€™s why I do increasingly choose places a bit further out where the air is better.

For me air quality one of the top 3 priorities when choosing a place. Thatโ€™s also why I weigh air pollution so high on Nomad Listโ€™s city rankings.

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It is a huge deal for me. I want to live a long happy life and the damaging effects of air pollution are well documented. If bad enough, it is LITERALLY like smoking.

I left Medellin for this reason last month. And it is why I left BKK 4 years ago.

I use this site for making some decisions: http://aqicn.org/map/china/

However, I found Medellin to be much worse than that data let on. It also claims BKK isnโ€™t that bad. But when youโ€™re on the street, you can feel (and smell) the emissions.

Now Iโ€™ll pass through anywhere. I was in Santiago earlier this year and was in Seoul last year. But I wouldnโ€™t live in either full time. There is just no need.

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@voskovek 7yr

Itโ€™s a big concern for me now, not because I have health issues, but because I love walking and cycling a lot. I was in Chiang Mai during the burning season earlier this year and I was coughing all the time three days after I arrived.
Iโ€™ll be spending a month in Seoul in December/January, Iโ€™ll see how it goes!

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in Chiang Mai , Thailand by @albyantoniazzi 6yr 5 years ago  | 9 comments

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by @djar 7yr 6 years ago  | 3 comments

Hi,
this is David from germany.

I am planning to stay in SE Asia in Q4 2015 while continue working. My work is location independent, but i would need to access customer sites in germany via remote connection. Has anyone done this bevor?
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I know that for web guys, this is not a problem, because SSH and git are not so much time critical like a โ€œliveโ€ desktop session. I know that there will be more lag, as ping times Asia -> Europe will be more like 500ms rather than the < 100ms what working in close proximity to the customer.

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I plan to go to Myanmar and I would like to know about the current state of the 3G network in this country.

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by @theunisk 7yr 7 years ago  | 11 comments

Iโ€™m currently travelling through europe and my two-bag setup is a chore. Can any of you recommend top loading backpacks that Iโ€™d be able to find in a store, or that has reasonably quick delivery time (within a week)?
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I might settle down somewhere for a bit longer in which case I could probably order anything, but Iโ€™d love to ditch my old backpack asap so any suggestions would be appreciated!

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