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How much does air quality matter to you when you choose your locations?


by @loniklara | 5yr  | 11 comments

Hey everyone! This is a question Iโ€™m asking out of curiosity since Iโ€™ve lived in South Korea for several years, been to China, Thailand and the Philippines and have recently traveled to Malaysia and Vietnam. By no means is pollution unique to Asia, but much of the developing process involves CO2 emissions and places like Indonesia and Vietnam produce a lot of smoke in the air by burning rice fields. Personally, this really puts me off from visiting these countries for any substantial period of time so I was wondering if itโ€™s a factor for you as well, or do you just deal with it - and if so, for how long?

I think Iโ€™m admittedly pretty sensitive to air quality because Iโ€™m prone to dust allergy, and especially since I have reaped the benefits of living in clean places like Sweden and Finland in the past. But I canโ€™t imagine this not being an important factor especially for people who have children or health issues. Iโ€™d love to get your thoughts on this :smile:

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@itinerantdev | 5yr

I didnโ€™t notice a problem in HCMC or Hanoi when I was there. But Iโ€™m in Mexico City now and itโ€™s pretty bad, my throat often feels a bit gross, and when you head out of the city a bit you can really see it. I would certainly think about it when considering whether to come back here, especially for more than a few weeks.

It does seem like the city wants to improve on it, they have a good cycling program now for example, hopefully it will improve in a few years.

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@repat | 5yr

Pollution levels are not always the same, though on average itโ€™s pretty bad in developing countries as everybody here is saying. But also in Paris and Athens, cities in definitely developed countries, itโ€™s sometimes quite bad.
Thereโ€™s apps that can show you how the pollution is at the moment and whatโ€™s recommended (not) to do.
I met the guys from Plume Labs the other day in Paris so Iโ€™d recommend them: https://www.plumelabs.com/

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@ani_goes_tweet | 5yr

It matters hugely to me. I wonโ€™t even consider places with bad pollution.

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@loniklara | 5yr

Can I ask where youโ€™ve been so far considering that youโ€™ll only go to places with decent air quality?

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@ani_goes_tweet | 5yr

I donโ€™t do cities. Iโ€™ve just spent the summer in the mountains in the north of Herault, in the Languedoc.

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@levelsio | 5yr

I think thatโ€™s really the point, most countries are fine as long as you go outside the greater metropolitan areas.

Unfortunately, thatโ€™s usually also where itโ€™s most fun (for me at least) :slight_smile:

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@mossy2100 | 5yr

Having lived in Bangkok and found it unsustainable as a home for this reason, I consider it quite important.

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@nomadtax | 5yr

Itโ€™s also a concern for me although not a deal breaker.

Iโ€™ve spent a considerable amount of time living in Asia (including China) and Iโ€™ve found that overall there are two types of air pollution and their effect on quality of life are dramatically different.

First of all there is the Chinese style smog. Yes itโ€™s bad health wise but itโ€™s not in your face, at least not in Shanghai where motorbikes are rare and cars are forced to use better fuel. Itโ€™s simply there but itโ€™s easy to forget especially in densely built areas where itโ€™s not visible.

Then there is the south east Asia style air pollution. That one is bad, real bad. It comes mostly from traffic and itโ€™s literally in your face all the time when you walk around. This type of pollution is practically impossible to ignore and makes practicing any urban sports impossible. Not to mention the burning seasonโ€ฆ

Iโ€™ve posted an air pollution heat map on my blog, it really illustrate well where the problem areas are and might be useful to some of you.

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@levelsio | 5yr

Huge concern for me. Iโ€™m from the Netherlands where air quality is relatively good.

Living in developing countries, one of the first things youโ€™ll notice in the big cities is the crazy amount of cars and traffic. And itโ€™s the worst type of polluting cars on the road since they hardly regulate.

Itโ€™s the same in South America to South East Asia.

Thereโ€™s some places that really go next level with pollution though. Manila is a good example, where the old jeepneys drive around with just an exhaust of black smoke constantly. Bali is another one, where itโ€™s normal for people to burn their trash (including lots of plastics). Many times next to your apartment/hotel window.

Iโ€™m not bitter about it, thatโ€™s what you get in developing countries. But thatโ€™s why I do increasingly choose places a bit further out where the air is better.

For me air quality one of the top 3 priorities when choosing a place. Thatโ€™s also why I weigh air pollution so high on Nomad Listโ€™s city rankings.

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@patrick_stiles | 5yr

It is a huge deal for me. I want to live a long happy life and the damaging effects of air pollution are well documented. If bad enough, it is LITERALLY like smoking.

I left Medellin for this reason last month. And it is why I left BKK 4 years ago.

I use this site for making some decisions: http://aqicn.org/map/china/

However, I found Medellin to be much worse than that data let on. It also claims BKK isnโ€™t that bad. But when youโ€™re on the street, you can feel (and smell) the emissions.

Now Iโ€™ll pass through anywhere. I was in Santiago earlier this year and was in Seoul last year. But I wouldnโ€™t live in either full time. There is just no need.

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@voskovek | 5yr

Itโ€™s a big concern for me now, not because I have health issues, but because I love walking and cycling a lot. I was in Chiang Mai during the burning season earlier this year and I was coughing all the time three days after I arrived.
Iโ€™ll be spending a month in Seoul in December/January, Iโ€™ll see how it goes!

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Hello, we are US citizens that have been able to stay in Italy past our standard visa stay due to covid. Now we must leave. We want to drive to Croatia as our โ€œout of EUโ€ stay. But Iโ€™m now wondering what considerations I need to take care of for my visa. I wonโ€™t go through an airport and get my passport stamped. But I assume I need to get my passport stamped as a way to prove Iโ€™m out of the EU.

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by @coffeeshopceo | 13d 13 days ago | 672 comments

tl;dr: introduce yourself in this thread.

We must all get sick of the same backpacker travel questions when we meet new friends, I know I do.

You know the ones - where are you from, whereโ€™ve you been, where are you going, what do you do, how long have you been doing it - etc.

The novelty of answering these questions wears off after maybe a week, but theyโ€™re nonetheless insightful and no matter how much we hate them, we find ourselves asking others.

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Hello,

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So we must leave the Schengen zone. We should avoid USA. We should avoid long air travel.

We were thinking Croatia.

Do you recommend a route to Croatia? We are open to long train rides. Ideally not long ferry rides. Is there a ferry route under 4 hours? I read about it...I don't see it. If not, the other option is to make our way north and up over to Croatia via train.

I'd appreciate your thoughts and insights!

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Did you learn any Thai before staying in Chiang Mai?


in Chiang Mai, Thailand by @digitaldiva | 20d 19 days ago | 0 comments

Iโ€™m curious to know how many people learned some Thai before going there. Learning languages is a hobby of mine but Iโ€™m very put off by how complex the writing system is, and if I decide not to learn it Iโ€™ll probably cross Chiang Mai off my bucket list. I prefer to be at least conversational in a language before I do an extended stay in a country. Iโ€™m curious how people who learned no Thai did getting by. And Iโ€™m curious, from people who did learn some, if itโ€™s any easier than it seems? Thanks!

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How is Chiang Mai's air quality?


in Chiang Mai, Thailand by @albyantoniazzi | 3yr 3 years ago | 9 comments

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And by the way, if anybody is in Chiang Mai and would like to grab a coffee would also be cool!

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by @madelineb | 3yr 3 years ago | 24 comments

Hi,
Do nomads like to travel together? I mean, not in each otherโ€™s pockets, but look for accomodation together, meet with each other daily or regularly, help out in new cities, motivate/inspire each other in the business? :slight_smile: Iโ€™ve done nomad lifestyle in the past in 2009/2014 and this time I want to collaborate and support with other people, each on their own mission. I love this nomad endeavour but to be honest I admit it can be quite time-consuming and lonely. :wink:
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in Amed, Indonesia by @adrienbetweets | 4yr 3 years ago | 3 comments

Hi all!

I am considering going for 1+ month in Amed (to get more into freediving).

I need to be able to make Skype calls & other work-related tasks. I need a speed equivalent to one allowing me to watch Youtube videos.

Ubud is way more connected in comparison, so I donโ€™t expect anything wonderful.

Wondering if anyone has done this before & if yes: what 3G
provider they used, or what cafe/restaurant/hotel had a good/reliable
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Note that I went to Amed last year & the 3G connection on the 2 providers I used at the time was terrible. Thatโ€™s why Iโ€™m asking for help.

Thanks in advance!

p.s. I also posted this question on travel.stackexchange.com/questions/82403/quality-of-wifis-3g-reception-in-amed-bali

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Quality of remote connections (RDP, TeamViewer etc.) from SE Asia to Europe?


by @djar | 4yr 4 years ago | 3 comments

Hi,
this is David from germany.

I am planning to stay in SE Asia in Q4 2015 while continue working. My work is location independent, but i would need to access customer sites in germany via remote connection. Has anyone done this bevor?
When i was in Thailand for holiday, voip telephony like skype, google talk etc. was working fine, but i did not test any remote access. It was a holiday. :smile:

I know that for web guys, this is not a problem, because SSH and git are not so much time critical like a โ€œliveโ€ desktop session. I know that there will be more lag, as ping times Asia -> Europe will be more like 500ms rather than the < 100ms what working in close proximity to the customer.

I might start at Bangkok or Chiang Mai, so any first hand reports from there would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
David

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I plan to go to Myanmar and I would like to know about the current state of the 3G network in this country.

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by @theunisk | 5yr 5 years ago | 11 comments

Iโ€™m currently travelling through europe and my two-bag setup is a chore. Can any of you recommend top loading backpacks that Iโ€™d be able to find in a store, or that has reasonably quick delivery time (within a week)?
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