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How to get into the zone without caffeine?


by @panoramica 9yr  | 17 comments

Iโ€™m recovering from a stomach bug so caffeine and sugar, the two staples of late night development, are off the menu. As a result Iโ€™m finding it quite hard to get motivated!

Does anyone have some alternative techniques to wake my brain up and plug me in?

Currently Iโ€™m indulging in music but itโ€™s not having quite the same effect as the killer combo of coffee/music/chocolate :cry:

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Iโ€™ll second the Girl Talk recommendation. :wink:

Also, I find that taking Korean Ginseng will get me very pumped and focused - sometimes tooooooo much if i take it too late in the afternoon, I canโ€™t sleep.

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@lucha54 9yr

If you can get through 2 or 3 weeks of caffeine withdrawals, your energy levels actually return to normal. When you start drinking coffee, you get tons of energy, but then as you get addicted, you end up back at base level, and feel tired due to withdrawals (ever drink a coffee right before bed and wake up feeling like you donโ€™t need one?) So if you suffer it out for a few weeks, youโ€™ll see that you had as much energy naturally as you did with your morning cuppa joe. This is true of all addictive substances! If youโ€™re a smoker, youโ€™ll remember the crazy headrush in the beginning, and now itโ€™s just to feel normal because of the withdrawals/cravings. :confused:

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@syneryder 9yr

On the music side of flow, Iโ€™ve found that fast paced electronic music without vocals helps keep me in the zone. Over the years Iโ€™ve built a playlist of about 700 songs I find ideal for working to:

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/user/syneryder/playlist/5YpeoHyEHG7ttNgvzAkW72
Rdio: http://www.rdio.com/people/syneryder/playlists/598011/Music_For_Coding_To/

I try to play the same first few songs every time I start to work, it acts as a Pavlovian cue to start workingโ€ฆ to the point where Iโ€™ve heard some of those songs in public and felt an urge to begin work.

I quit caffeine for a long time (7 years?), but I donโ€™t feel I saw any benefits besides making it easier to wake up in the morning. I think going without caffeine is overrated. I really enjoy my coffee & mochas & cola & Club Mate.

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Nice playlist! I use music in the same way and especially like D&B for working.

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@gnefkow 9yr

Iโ€™ve found one of the biggest helps for me is to get strict about distractions.

If youโ€™re able to work offline (which you may or may not be, depending on what youโ€™re working on), that is a good start. I blocked my facebook so I wouldnโ€™t be tempted to get out of the zone. Close whatever your email client is. Log off slack/hip chat for a little while.

From what Iโ€™ve read in books like โ€œPeoplewareโ€ it usually takes 15 minutes or so of concentrating before you really hit a state of โ€˜flow.โ€™ Nothing kills that like messages popping up all over the place or just taking a โ€œquick lookโ€ at twitter.

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@gneflow Cheers, that is one of the tough things about the modern work environment - multiple browser tabs all vying for my attention (code preview, timesheets, Trello, various documentation). Perhaps there is a tab management plugin that can help me. I agree that it takes a while of stabbing away before the barriers melt and the code flows. Sometimes I have to force myself through this phase to get to the actually-I-really-love-it part!

@syneryder I agree, Iโ€™m a longtime fan of fast paced electronic music without vocals. Funny that youโ€™ve programmed yourself with musical cues, I might try that! It reminds me of those spy movies where a public phone booth would ring and some random dude would answer it then go and undertake a high profile assassination attempt. I definitely think that one can consume too much coffee and degrade sleep quality, but Iโ€™ve been healthy and unhealthy over the years, and neither state seems more conducive than the other for getting the work done! Also, Iโ€™m sure that there are plenty of things worse for you than coffee, e.g daily bombardment by WiFi, Bluetooth and mass produced pop musicโ€ฆ

@lucha54 The trouble is that I think I just have an addictive personality. I can give up one thing but then I just replace it with something else!

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Music can work. Girl Talk - All Day is kind of famous for being really great for upping your productivity while working. I was skeptical, but it certainly works for me. Itโ€™s hard to explain, but just give it a go :slight_smile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWzkK7tUjaU

Also plus one for Self Control and regular breaks

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Cheers lasmit. Self control isnโ€™t really my forte so thank goodness for invasive software! I have a phone full of music snob music that is a necessary requirement before any work can start - usually music without lyrics is best for me, including regular breaks :wink:

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@stratigos 9yr

Have you ever thought of finding a Health Coach? They typically work on problems just like this (removing caffeine from diet and how to compensate on the job). I had a hard time quitting caffeine / coffee a few years ago, but I am in my 30s and I typically have more energy and focus than I did drinking coffee everyday in my 20s.

Regularity is key, and balance is key. Always prioritize rest and sleep, and dont sacrifice on your sleep ever. Diet also plays a huge role, eating a diet packed with fresh organic vegetables, and a balance of macro-nutrients relative to your lifestyle is going to affect your energy levels and ability to focus greatly. We programmers tend to need more carbohydrates for brain fuel than lets say, professional power lifters, though it should not come in the form of junk food or refined wheat/flour, but in the form of whole grains like sorghum, barley, buckwheat, unrefined rice, millet, and quinoa. Then you need ample exercise, something that gets blood flowing throughout your body for a minimum of 20 minutes a day (for most of the days of the week). Running makes ticking this requirement off easy, but also some mixup of bodyweight exercises, or some internal arts like yoga, kung fu, or tai chi. The important thing is to use your body well, and dont confine it to long sessions in a chair. I find that jogging regularly really helps me think clear and focused.

Lately I have fallen in love with the Pomodoro technique (wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique). The short version is you work in 25 minute blocks, then get up and move around for 3-5 minutes in between. As a software dev, this drove me nuts at first, as I wanted large uninterrupted blocks of sitting to get more code out. After I disciplined myself and followed this technique, I found that my focus sustained far longer, and I actually enjoyed working longer hours, and all around felt more clear and mentally focused in other areas of life. Plus it allowed me more mental focus for non work things, like relationships, chores, or other life-maintenance tasks. I use a service called Kanban Flow (free), but there are a lot of project/time management services which have Pomodoro techniques built in.

Again, I seriously recommend finding a Health Coach that works via remote / internet to help with caffeine addiction. Coffee is a powerfully addictive substance and leads to a condition known as adrenal fatigue, and if you are not knowledgeable of adrenal fatigue, you can suffer from it chronically without knowing it (most of the developed world does). It ages a person quickly, and leads to chronic lack of focus, will, and energy, and gets worse with age, and the symptoms are only temporarily alleviated with more caffeine. Having a trained professional assist with diet and lifestyle changes can only help. I have worked with remote health coaches out of New Zealand and America, and could recommend some I like to you.

All in all, just find balance between rest, diet, and exercise, and know that caffeineโ€™s effects are subtle, insidious, and strong, and that it will take weeks, perhaps a month, before natural focus and will flow (if you are recovering from a daily caffeine habit). The first week is the worst! It does get better over time. Good luck!

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Hey stratigos, no I havenโ€™t - TBH I never took my problem that seriously! I actually havenโ€™t drunken much caffeine/coffee at all since I left my old life and its daily coffee binges 8 weeks ago (probably more vodka, but thatโ€™s another story). Itโ€™s really just been night times over the last few weeks while Iโ€™ve been struggling to do some coding work. Maybe this signals a bigger problem - i.e that Iโ€™m just super lazy!! I know that Iโ€™m supposed to live a balanced life, but Iโ€™m really a night owl, and I figure that 42 is too old to be thinking about changing my spots rather than wearing them with pride. Since writing this post I have found it easier to knuckle down though (hence being much quieter on this forum) - I think busier days and looming deadlines are pretty effective motivators for me. :smile:

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Ice water, fruit juice, and exercise does it for me.

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Thanks, yes I like exercise too - but I find that really unappealing here in smogville (Ulaanbaatar). Cold drinks are great, maybe thatโ€™s part of the appeal of Coke/Red Bull/V, aside from the heavy marketing and temporary sugar rush.

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Sleep deprivation doesnt work for me as much as it did when I was younger. I was about a half-hour/hr away from finishing up a project last night to be submitted today and noticed my output quality seriously going into the shitter unless I got some rest. Adrenaline maybe kept me going an extra 2-4 hrs but has diminishing returns with age. Those 48-72 hr straight days started going poof for me from 26 onwards lol

This is all with 0 caffeine involved. Iโ€™m one of those rare devs who arenโ€™t just a machine that processes coffee into code though. Thinking I should give it another shot after writing this now.

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Wow, 72 hour days! Iโ€™m jealous - I didnโ€™t start development until I was almost 30, and at the time I was impressed if I could do half of that.

Iโ€™m already feeling the lack of sleep from last night. Itโ€™s hard when you canโ€™t just prop yourself up on caffeine! Hopefully Iโ€™ll be good to get back on the bandwagon in the next day or so :wink:

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LOL yeahโ€ฆ the whole hackathon culture and all that. You can see why SV has ageism for a reason.

But ultimately thats pretty false and unsustainable. You can get a lot of โ€œinspired prototypingโ€ that way espec from kids but mature, usable stuff comes from mature usable practices to say the least.

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@tjwaldorf 9yr

I donโ€™t drink coffee/tea/anything caffeinated, this routine is my substitute. The goal is to remove blocks, distractions, and things that slow you down. Those are different for each person I think.

Full glass of water first thing out of bed. Kind of makes you want to throw up when you drink it but feels awesome for the next hour. Strenuous exercise for 26 minutes (running/anything not involving intense pressure on your spine). 4m of stretching. Medium-temperature shower. Eggs & banana & oatmeal for breakfast. Read a few pages from an informational/non-fiction book. Block all social media and anything not work-related using SelfRestraint (if on Windows) or SelfControl (if on Mac). Put your productivity song on Repeat One. Jam for an hour and a half. Take a 15m break, respond to email and socials. Next productivity song on Repeat One, repeat cycle until youโ€™re happy with what youโ€™ve done with the day.

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Thanks for your reply - yes I agree that it is a very personal thing. I admire your healthy routine though!

I actually worked quite late last night after installing SelfControl (thanks) - I think that sleep deprivation actually works quite well for me, maybe it boosts the adrenalin which in turn helps me focus.

Cheers.

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Hello,
Iโ€™m currently residing in Seoul, Korea working at a corporate office job. Iโ€™m having hard time finding a remote job or freelance job besides programming or article writing related jobs.
Are there options to do a remote job or freelance job for somewho who has no programming background?

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How do you travel Asia with customers in other timezones?


by @iamjamesrodgers 8yr 8 years ago  | 2 comments

Hello!

Iโ€™m sure there are many here who are responsible for a Customer base within American time zones that travel Asia.

How do you balance your life out while doing this?

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What questions should one ask themself before embarking into the nomadic lifestyle?


by @marcob 9yr 9 years ago  | 6 comments

What questions should one ask themself before embarking into the nomadic lifestyle?
& what would your answer be to said question?

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Can I ship my MacBook to Thailand without it getting stolen?


in Thailand by @asaf142 9yr 9 years ago  | 2 comments

I plan to be in India for the next 3 - 4 months and then move to Thailand to work.
I plan to keep my MacBook at home till then.

Can I trust the mail in Thailand with it?
Is it safer to take it with me to India? (I really prefer not toโ€ฆ)

To be more specific, by Thailand I mean Chiang Mai or Phuket

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