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How useful is a credit card concierge for your business, travel, and life?


by @ride 7yr  | 5 comments

The deal is, with a virtual assistant, you get what you pay for. On the other hand, you can be a power user of the card concierge service, and only pay an aggregated fee, including for those folks with the same card, but hardly use the service at all.

What can a credit card concierge do for you? I donโ€™t want to quote Tim Ferriss (a controversial figure); here are some other, good uses.

EUR/USD100 concierge credit cards exist out there; the concierge option is not exclusive to cards in the 500 range. Iโ€™m not a bank, I donโ€™t offer this service; I genuinely asking your opinions.

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@ride 7yr

If you are like me, and donโ€™t support Forbesโ€™ business model (its the smaller sin you canโ€™t access their site with ad blockers, a default setting pre-installed with this browser), their main sin being breaking up their content articles to multiple pages, meaning: if themselves donโ€™t trust their own content or delivery method, then how they expect their readers to trust them and take then seriously?

Hereโ€™s Pietersโ€™ linked article Globetrotting Digital Nomads: The Future Of Work Or Too Good To Be True? (This article was written by Forbes Leadership Forum from Forbes and was legally licensed through the NewsCred publisher network.) in free flow text, from the Office Depot Blog (where else?)

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@ride 7yr

Thanks Pieter,

Now I got the Forbes link about most nomads earning less than $500. Fine!

To the topic. When I said: EUR/USD100 concierge credit cards exist out there; the concierge option is not exclusive to cards in the 500 range. Iโ€™m not a bank, I donโ€™t offer this service; I genuinely asking your opinions.

I truly meant that, I donโ€™t want to compete with the banks, I donโ€™t want to offer this service, as I stated, the deal with the credit card concierge is, you in general pay less for the service, as on average more people pay for these cards and less are power users of the concierge service, when comparing you paying outright for whatever concierge service is, you literally get what you pay for.

Clarification: I ask it as a fellow travel and life hacker, not a prospective provider of service: what use cases you can envision a credit card concierge can help to make your life and work on the road better, easier to manage?

But please, be more creative and come up with better tasks than simply helping with booking an accommodation.

Back tot he very topic of most nomads earning less than $500 a month. Letโ€™s be optimistic and say, they are actually earning $500. As I said, you can get a credit card concierge for about, or less than EUR/$100 a year, or EUR/$10 a month, that means a nomad earning $500 a month subscribing to this service for a monthly $10, still have $490 left and a possibly useful tool (a business tool, too) to help improving his business and life, possibly even helping to earn more than $500, first $750, the $1000, and so on. What help the credit card concierge can give?

So, basically this is exactly the type of question I wanted to ask here!

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@levelsio 7yr

Thereโ€™s a market for concierges. But IMHO not for nomads yet. Theyโ€™re still too price sensitive to be able to afford it, most nomads make less than $500/month. If you want to make a concierge service profitable, youโ€™ll have to get more high-income nomads (theyโ€™re out there, but not a lot yet).

Thereโ€™s services already. For example, you have Chiang Mai Buddy but most of what they do costs $5 to $25. Maybe a nomad will take 5 services, so theyโ€™ll make $100 on one person. But thatโ€™s not a lot of revenue to run a business on.

I think thereโ€™s opportunity for a concierge service for premium high-income people (like $250,000/y +). Theyโ€™ll be happy to pay $1,000/m to get a lot of their work taken care off. Thing is, they already exist. Like John Paul.

I could see one service like this be wrapped in a more modern jacket though, like Uber for Concierges. Although Uberโ€™s founder actually is already doing that with Operator.

So yeah, thereโ€™s opportunity here, but I donโ€™t think you should target it to the general nomads. Because they probably canโ€™t afford it.

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@ride 7yr

Yeah, itโ€™s better to add some clarification. Most people use the concierge service to book dinner, travel, etc., and nothing really more complicated.

However, here I need your creativity: like on the link above - titled What are some good uses for a credit cardโ€™s โ€œconcierge service?โ€ - , what power user requests could you come up for the concierge? Like, even some help in your work.

Or, if I just look around on many of the questions here on the board, you may ask the same question to the concierge, depending on the service, you may get better or worse responses than here. That would be an interesting experiment, too. For example, one asked Whatโ€™s good places to work in Addis Abbaba, Ethiopia?. The answer on the forum was, Ice Addis is probably the only one place. OK, I checked their home page, they advertised themselves being best place in Addis, meaning, not the only one. Depending on your level of adventurousness, you may want to try the others as well. (Quality of life in Africa does not come cheap.)

Thereโ€™s even more to it, too: as Siri, Cortana and Google Now evolves, it will be an interesting race between the human concierge and AI. The cards are not available everywhere, thatโ€™s why I ask you in the first place.

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@leerosen 7yr

We use ours to book dinner reservations when thereโ€™s a language barrier or when dialing from where we happen to be is difficult. On the language issue, the comparison of VA to concierge isnโ€™t really apples to apples. Itโ€™s working pretty well for us with the service from AMEX and Citibank. We can email them the request and they respond within a day or two. I wouldnโ€™t sign up for the card simply for this service. But, with the other perks we receive, itโ€™s worth it to us.

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it seems like Visa have gotten more tight recently and itโ€™s touch and go whether each transaction will go through. Sometimes it does but often now I am getting declined. The bank knows my locations but in the background Visa seem to be blocking a lot regardless and they are harder to notify. I am using paypal where possible because it doesnโ€™t get blocked, but thatโ€™s only good for a limited number of places.
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Anyone here has an opinion on having children, while living a nomadic life?

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by @lucasjgordon 8yr 7 years ago  | 7 comments

Iโ€™m creating an iOS app that allows users to check in and get information about cities when they arrive. The app lists other nomads in the city, and users can follow each other and get alerts when the nomads they follow check into new cities.

I grew up travelling, but have been in London for the last few years. My girlfriend and I are planning to adopt the nomad life later this year, but Iโ€™m not currently a nomad and I desperately want this app to be relevant and useful so I need your guysโ€™ help to understand what problems it should address. What would be useful for you when arriving in a new city? e.g. a map of hotspots, contact numbers for accommodation, taxi contact numbers etc?

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by @andrew_f_shaker 8yr 8 years ago  | 5 comments

Hello all!

Iโ€™ve been a nomad for a good 18 months, making mobile apps as I travel around. As Iโ€™ve read in this forum, being a Nomad is already something outside the norms of society and its structure. And that in itself is freeing!

But one thing when breaking away from society is the lack of feedback from others. I feel that feedback is an important part for all humans. The lack of feedback makes me wonder:

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    2a) Is it wrong to have the feeling that others may be jealous (am I pompous)?

  3. Because I receive no feedback, my standards might be too high. Have I achieved enough?

These thoughts sometimes are weighing on my mind. But I would never trade the lifestyle or experiences Iโ€™ve had for simply, feedback.

Iโ€™d love to hear how others feel about this kind of stuff. :smile:

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