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| ⭐️ Total score | 209 reviews |
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| 👮♀️ Lack of crime* | |
| 🤝 Lack of racism* | |
| 🎓 Education level* | |
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| 🙊 English speaking* | |
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| ✌️ Peace (no pol. conflict) | |
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| 😁 Friendly to foreigners | |
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| 🌍 Continent | Asia |
| 🚩 Country | Thailand |
| ⏱ Average trip time | 4 days |
| 📡 Internet speed (avg) | 24 Mbps |
| ⛅️ Weather (now) |
🌥 31°C 88°F + 🥵 Sweaty (79%) = feels 40°C 104°F
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| 💨 Air quality (now) | 👍 72 US AQI 🍃 OK |
| 💨 Air quality (annual avg) | 👍 42 US AQI 🍃 OK |
| 🔌 Power | 230V 50Hz |
| 🚕 Best taxi app* |
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| 🚑 Travel medical insurance |
Safetywing
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| 📱 Best wireless carrier | AIS |
| 💸 100 THB in USD | USD 2.99 |
| 🏧 Suggested ATM take out: | THB 10,000 = USD 299 |
| 💸 Tipping | |
| 💳 Cashless | 💳 Yes, cards OK almost everywhere |
| ☕️ Best coffee place | Smiling Dog Cafe |
| 🚰 Tap water | 🚫 No, not drinkable |
| ♻️ Return rate | 10% of visitors return |
| 👨👩👧👦 Population | 7,900 people |
| 👨👩👧👦 GDP per capita* | $5,911 / year |
| ⛪️ Religious government | Non-religious |
| 💻 Online electronics shop | Lazada |
| 🏠 Apartment listings | AirBnb |
| ✈️ Best short-haul air carrier | Air Asia |
| ✈️ Best int'l air carrier | Air Asia |
| 💵 Cost of living for nomad | $1,351 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for expat | $966 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for family | $1,657 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for local | $473 / month |
| 🏠 1br studio rent in center | $359 / month |
| 🏢 Coworking | $99 / month |
| 🏨 Hotel (median price) | $892 / month |
| 🏨 Hotel (median price) | $42 / night |
| 🏡 Airbnb (median from 461 listings) | $2,066 / month |
| 🏠 Airbnb (median price) | $68 / night |
| 🍛 Dinner | $1 |
| 🥤 Coca-Cola (0.3L) | $0 |
| 🍺 Beer (0.5L) | $2 |
| ☕️ Coffee | $1 |
✅ Affordable to live
✅ Pretty safe
✅ Fast internet
✅ Warm now
✅ Warm all year round
✅ Good air quality on average
✅ Spacious and not crowded
✅ Easy to make friends
✅ Very easy to do business
✅ Roads are very safe
✅ Safe for women
✅ Not many people smoke tobacco
❌ Freedom of speech is weak
❌ Not very democratic
❌ Not much to do
❌ Very sweaty and humid now
❌ Quality of education is low
❌ Hospitals are bad
❌ People don't speak English well
❌ Not family friendly
❌ Hostile towards LGBTQ+
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| Rain |
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| Cloud |
cloudy 76% |
pockets 27% |
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| Air quality |
clean 50 US AQI |
clean 42* US AQI |
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okay 55 US AQI |
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Based on Ao Nang's cost of living, here's selected remote jobs that would cover your costs:
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 45° 113° 32° 89° 🥵 AQI 72 🚕22min $1,054 / mo 28 Mbps
It's basically a party island -- getting work done will require discipline. One who can accomplish that will be rewarded with a paradisiac cheerful enviroment where everyone wants to be happy and enjoy life. In long term, be careful with your emotional life, as new flows of people everyday going in and out might unbalance your way to see the world.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 37° 99° 29° 84° 🥵 AQI 72 🚕1h $1,493 / mo 23 Mbps
Amazing Phuket, warm sunny and lots to do! Getting there was a bunch of red tape and covid checks but we’ll worth the short trip!
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 41° 106° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 61 🚕2h $1,271 / mo 25 Mbps
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 53 🚕2h $1,420 / mo 23 Mbps
One of the most beautiful islands I've ever been to (been to a lot) But, for vacation. For living there, there is just not so much to do.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 34° 93° 29° 85° AQI 57 ✈️14min $1,563 / mo 24 Mbps
Samui sucks and is to be avoided by nomads. It's not a nomad hotspot, at all. And probably won't ever become one. Pros: - Has an airport, so you can fly in straight from Bangkok and it only takes an hour - Has nice villas you can rent with beautiful view over the ocean and Ko Phangan in the distance - Grab and FoodPanda delivery food works okay here, although options are quite limited compared to Bangkok - WiFi is good and fast around the island, no problems at all - Driving a bike/scoot
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 31° 88° 26° 79° 🥵 AQI 74 ✈️17min $1,733 / mo 23 Mbps
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 30° 87° 🥵 AQI 57 ✈️17min $1,459 / mo 11 Mbps
Koh Phangan has potential to become an awesome nomad hotspot. It's close, but it’s not quite there yet. I’ve spent 5 months here during the 2021 COVID-lockdown. Pros: - Stunning nature all around you - You can live right on the beach, or have a sick view from a hill - Can be very affordable - Laid back, Bali-like lifestyle - Low amount of traffic, very chill to drive around - Lots of yoga, gyms, muay thai, etc - Easy to explore other parts of Thailand (when there's no lockdown) - E-commerce
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 34° 93° 29° 84° AQI 74 ✈️18min $983 / mo 24 Mbps
"Off the record, however, they told of an island held in the iron grip of a mafia family, who demanded protection money, controlled the local police force and were not above attacking or burning down the homes and businesses of people that crossed them" I don't think Koh Tao is dangerous in terms of absolute risk. Many tourists pass through, and not that many got murdered (under a dozen over several years, as far as I know, some cases might really be suicide). Riding a motorbike anywhere in Tha
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 34° 93° 28° 83° 🥵 AQI 74 ✈️20min $1,339 / mo 23 Mbps
The noise pollution here is insane. The prayer calls from the mosques seem to reverberate throughout Penang. Seems like they are competing for who can be the loudest. This really ruined Penang for me and I cut my time short.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 40° 104° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 65 ✈️27min $1,077 / mo 13 Mbps
Great place, I stayed at bug n boats.....epics.s go to gua tempurung
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 35° 95° 29° 84° 🥵 AQI 65 ✈️36min $1,226 / mo 11 Mbps
Ahhh Medan. This little jewel in the rough is a place to get away from it all. No foreigners, just you. Maybe 10% speak English. Still, prices are good. I walked into a 5 star hotel, stayed 3 days at the regular rate, then negotiated a rate for 30 days... 5 star perks for $29USD a night. I've been here 2 months now. If you're a fan of Art Deco or Art Moderne, this place is great. The city is beginning a modernization process... slowly... just slowly enough. There are 4-5 huge shopping malls (
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 40° 104° 31° 87° 🥵 AQI 63 ✈️39min $784 / mo 7 Mbps
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 53 🚕2h $1,420 / mo 23 Mbps
Don't believe the prices on here for an apartment. 686 usd/month refers to an apartment in a high class condo, right in the city centre and seconds away from the BTS(train station). Just remember this, people working at supermarkets make 2 usd/per hour. If you want to live like a local, then you can save a lot of money. If you don't mind a 5-10 minute walk from the BTS, then you can easily get a one bedroom apartment for 300 USD per month, in a high class condo, plus with free golf cart ser
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 37° 99° 31° 89° 🥵 AQI 82 😷 ✈️53min $1,330 / mo 25 Mbps
Amazing Phuket, warm sunny and lots to do! Getting there was a bunch of red tape and covid checks but we’ll worth the short trip!
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 41° 106° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 61 🚕2h $1,271 / mo 25 Mbps
It's basically a party island -- getting work done will require discipline. One who can accomplish that will be rewarded with a paradisiac cheerful enviroment where everyone wants to be happy and enjoy life. In long term, be careful with your emotional life, as new flows of people everyday going in and out might unbalance your way to see the world.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 37° 99° 29° 84° 🥵 AQI 72 🚕1h $1,493 / mo 23 Mbps
Koh Phangan has potential to become an awesome nomad hotspot. It's close, but it’s not quite there yet. I’ve spent 5 months here during the 2021 COVID-lockdown. Pros: - Stunning nature all around you - You can live right on the beach, or have a sick view from a hill - Can be very affordable - Laid back, Bali-like lifestyle - Low amount of traffic, very chill to drive around - Lots of yoga, gyms, muay thai, etc - Easy to explore other parts of Thailand (when there's no lockdown) - E-commerce
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 34° 93° 29° 84° AQI 74 ✈️18min $983 / mo 24 Mbps
Putrajaya is the only place I would recommend due to its close proximity to the airport. The Shaftsbury Hotel is modern with two convenience stores, pharmacy, restaurants, dental, and more in the actual building. There is a rain fountain in "mall" of the building that would be Putrajaya's attempt at Singapore's airport one. The location is also literally right across from the bigger mall that has restaurants, international grocery store, movie theater, bowling, electronics, etc. It's a safe a
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 31° 88° 🥵 AQI 68 ✈️50min $1,244 / mo 11 Mbps
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 45° 113° 32° 89° 🥵 AQI 72 🚕22min $1,054 / mo 28 Mbps
Chiang Mai used to be N.1 for the digital nomad life. It is still great and you can find really cheap apartments (300-400$) and restaurants (2-3$ for a main). Wouldn't recommend staying there during the burning season. The best area is Nimman, but it's also the most expensive. You can stay in the old city that's very nice but that gets noisy during the weekend for the night markets. Last but not least, very safe city. All in all would go back in a heartbeat.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety ☀️ Feels 27° 81° 26° 79° AQI 65 ✈️2h $989 / mo 25 Mbps
Samui sucks and is to be avoided by nomads. It's not a nomad hotspot, at all. And probably won't ever become one. Pros: - Has an airport, so you can fly in straight from Bangkok and it only takes an hour - Has nice villas you can rent with beautiful view over the ocean and Ko Phangan in the distance - Grab and FoodPanda delivery food works okay here, although options are quite limited compared to Bangkok - WiFi is good and fast around the island, no problems at all - Driving a bike/scoot
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 31° 88° 26° 79° 🥵 AQI 74 ✈️17min $1,733 / mo 23 Mbps
They say you get what you pay for. After having traveled the previous 4 months in India, Cambodia, VietNam, Myanmar and Thailand, Singapore was so easy! The subway system is a marvel, streets signs were easy to read, everyone speaks English (that just makes it easy for me as an English speaker) it is safe, clean, and parks are gorgeous. I was there as COVID 19 was breaking out fairly fast and that put a damper on my time but I was so happy to be there anyway and plan to go back. For digital
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 42° 108° 31° 87° 🥵 AQI 42 ✈️1h $3,144 / mo 60 Mbps
I grew up in Chicago and still return fairly often. I love the character of the different neighborhoods, the variety of architectural styles, and as others have said, the food scene is incredible. It's easy to make friends in the suburbs, perhaps not so much in the city itself. I have never witnessed racial tension here, and have been pleasantly surprised by the interracial friendliness I have observed. There are a wonderful selection of forests and parks just about everywhere, and the museu
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety ☀️ Feels -18° 0° -12° 11° AQI 38 ✈️19h $3,427 / mo 45 Mbps
Unbelievably a great place to live! Forget Pattaya downtown and go for Jomtiem instead, with a more family-oriented enviroment, delicious street food and russian/scandinavian communities. You can live in great places with seaview paying less than you would pay for a regular place in Bangkok, with all the traffic and pollution. Also, Koh Larn island, an island 20 minutes far by boat is a gift, with pristine and clean beaches like the most famous islands in Thailand.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 34° 93° 29° 85° AQI 72 ✈️47min $1,280 / mo 23 Mbps
It's basically a party island -- getting work done will require discipline. One who can accomplish that will be rewarded with a paradisiac cheerful enviroment where everyone wants to be happy and enjoy life. In long term, be careful with your emotional life, as new flows of people everyday going in and out might unbalance your way to see the world.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 37° 99° 29° 84° 🥵 AQI 72 🚕1h $1,493 / mo 🌇 Also went here32 people
Amazing Phuket, warm sunny and lots to do! Getting there was a bunch of red tape and covid checks but we’ll worth the short trip!
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 41° 106° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 61 🚕2h $1,271 / mo 🌇 Also went here51 people
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 53 🚕2h $1,420 / mo 🌇 Also went here47 people
Putrajaya is the only place I would recommend due to its close proximity to the airport. The Shaftsbury Hotel is modern with two convenience stores, pharmacy, restaurants, dental, and more in the actual building. There is a rain fountain in "mall" of the building that would be Putrajaya's attempt at Singapore's airport one. The location is also literally right across from the bigger mall that has restaurants, international grocery store, movie theater, bowling, electronics, etc. It's a safe a
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 31° 88° 🥵 AQI 68 ✈️50min $1,244 / mo 🌇 Also went here51 people
Don't believe the prices on here for an apartment. 686 usd/month refers to an apartment in a high class condo, right in the city centre and seconds away from the BTS(train station). Just remember this, people working at supermarkets make 2 usd/per hour. If you want to live like a local, then you can save a lot of money. If you don't mind a 5-10 minute walk from the BTS, then you can easily get a one bedroom apartment for 300 USD per month, in a high class condo, plus with free golf cart ser
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 37° 99° 31° 89° 🥵 AQI 82 😷 ✈️53min $1,330 / mo 🌇 Also went here84 people
Siem Riep has a nice suburb feeling. At first sight it seems there's not much to do besides Angkor Wat and Pub Street, but you can go swimming, do bicycle tours, floating village day trip... I don't have best social skill, but in Siem Reap it was so easy to make new friends. Locals and tourists! I've worked at Garage Society Coworking Space. Pretty nice place. I don't understand the cons of slow internet. I've bought an LTE 4G Sim card for 10 USD with 10 GB. There's also free and mostly fast
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 39° 102° 32° 89° 🥵 AQI 85 😷 ✈️1h $1,283 / mo 🌇 Also went here32 people
Only thing to add is that in general Saigon has terrible walkability. I love Saigon, lived there for 3 years. But motorbikes are always parked on the sidewalks so you constantly have to step onto the road which is a little hair raising. And if it's not motorbikes then there are restaurant tables scattered across the pavement. Plus the pavement is almost always cracked. I'm a pretty chill person. But going for a random walk in Saigon always leaves me kind of irritated after a while. Of course the
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 41° 106° 32° 89° 🥵 AQI 57 ✈️1h $969 / mo 🌇 Also went here41 people
They say you get what you pay for. After having traveled the previous 4 months in India, Cambodia, VietNam, Myanmar and Thailand, Singapore was so easy! The subway system is a marvel, streets signs were easy to read, everyone speaks English (that just makes it easy for me as an English speaker) it is safe, clean, and parks are gorgeous. I was there as COVID 19 was breaking out fairly fast and that put a damper on my time but I was so happy to be there anyway and plan to go back. For digital
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 42° 108° 31° 87° 🥵 AQI 42 ✈️1h $3,144 / mo 🌇 Also went here50 people
Chiang Mai used to be N.1 for the digital nomad life. It is still great and you can find really cheap apartments (300-400$) and restaurants (2-3$ for a main). Wouldn't recommend staying there during the burning season. The best area is Nimman, but it's also the most expensive. You can stay in the old city that's very nice but that gets noisy during the weekend for the night markets. Last but not least, very safe city. All in all would go back in a heartbeat.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety ☀️ Feels 27° 81° 26° 79° AQI 65 ✈️2h $989 / mo 🌇 Also went here60 people
Cheep bear and party place. But only have 3-4 beautiful places to visit. I stayed 5 days and thanks! There are more beautiful places in Asia than Hanoi. I don´t think I come back. Good food and cheap but nothing more..
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌦 Feels 25° 77° 25° 77° AQI 70 ✈️2h $896 / mo 🌇 Also went here37 people
Honestly, this is an awesome place to be if you're actually trying to get work done. It's a bit of an older vibe than Canggu, and there's certainly a big chunk of yogi's kicking around — but I liked it much better than Canggu and found it less pretentious. Plus, you can drive down there in 45mins whenever you want some beach or party vibes. As others mentioned, there's some great coworking spaces, cheap warungs, some really nice spots to stay cheaply if you go just outside of the mad tourist
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 35° 95° 29° 84° 🥵 AQI 62 ✈️3h $1,293 / mo 🌇 Also went here38 people
Early January 2022- Canggu is one of the world's great foodie paradises. Really. You won't find this kind of variety outside a major city (like Manhattan in NYC, Montreal, London, Paris, etc)... but what Canggu has over all these places is that it is SO CONCENTRATED that you can, if you wish, walk between hundreds of them (a scooter is sometimes nicer)... I actually DID it. After over 20 local Google reviews (and counting), I can say if you're wanting vegetarian, vegan, carnivore, halal, Jain,
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 40° 104° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 62 ✈️3h $1,337 / mo 🌇 Also went here36 people
Paris is wonderful, and I love it here, but the stereotypes some real truth to them. I stepped off the plane to a protest, my airbnb host was incredibly stylish yet didn't wear deoderant, and I met the rudest waiter I've ever encountered in my entire life on day 3 (though most Parisians are super nice!)
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 7° 45° 8° 47° AQI 75 ✈️13h $4,026 / mo 🌇 Also went here39 people
How did you guys classified Penge as rich? It is one of the worst neighbourhood I have ever been in London, the ammount of people I know that have been robbed there is appalling.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌥 Feels 8° 46° 9° 48° AQI 46 ✈️13h $4,298 / mo 🌇 Also went here43 people
Best city in Spain. Weather is great even in December and the clubbing scene is fun. There's lots to do and it's a beautiful city overall. You have to watch out for pickpockets but as long as you aren't leaving things unattended or obviously in your pockets you'll be fine. If you're into hostels, Hostel One Paralelo is BY FAR the best hostel in the area, worth every penny. Will definitely be back, and I never say that.
⭐️ All 💵 Cost 📡 😀 Fun 👮 Safety ☀️ Feels 12° 54° 12° 54° AQI 63 ✈️13h $2,865 / mo 🌇 Also went here37 peopleNo members are here right now. If you are, add it as a trip and you'll show up here!
