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Quality of remote connections (RDP, TeamViewer etc.) from SE Asia to Europe?


by @djar 7yr  | 3 comments

Hi,
this is David from germany.

I am planning to stay in SE Asia in Q4 2015 while continue working. My work is location independent, but i would need to access customer sites in germany via remote connection. Has anyone done this bevor?
When i was in Thailand for holiday, voip telephony like skype, google talk etc. was working fine, but i did not test any remote access. It was a holiday. :smile:

I know that for web guys, this is not a problem, because SSH and git are not so much time critical like a โ€œliveโ€ desktop session. I know that there will be more lag, as ping times Asia -> Europe will be more like 500ms rather than the < 100ms what working in close proximity to the customer.

I might start at Bangkok or Chiang Mai, so any first hand reports from there would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
David

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@djar 6yr

Update to my own topic:
Currenty in Bangkok, and no problems so far:

  • Working with teamviewer is fine good speed, about 350ms delay to germany
  • VPN (IPsec, IPsec over HTTPS) works fine
  • PPTP VPN not working, but do not need it
  • Phone with Skype, Google Talk and WhatsApp better than expected. Works over shitty Hotel WLAN and also over AIS 3G. No VoiP block with AIS 3G.
  • Using a softphone over VPN to my company PBX is the best option so far. Yes, there is a delay, but quality is really good (Panasonic softphone).

Any questions, msg me.

Djar

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@djar 7yr

Thanks Mauro, that was kinda like i expected: Steady medium to good connection quality with high lag. I think i have to try if it works for me. As long as the connection is stable, it should work out somehow.

I know that web devs will not have this problem to that extend, they can use a local stage and push to production when they are ready. Canโ€™t do this with a windows server. :wink:

David

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@replay 7yr

Iโ€™m often working on SSH, so I share your worries. In my experience the speed of the connection is not that important (anyway SSH consumes almost no data) but the latency is way more important. Unfortunately it seems that due to the geographical distance between Eastern Asia and Europe there seems to always be a certain amount of lag which you just have to get used to (or I have not discovered the best location yet). So far I have tried Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Seoul, Singapore and at all of those locations, even if the bandwidth was great, there was always lag due to the latency.

Going to be in Japan in May, if itโ€™s any better there I would post an update here, but I suspect Iโ€™ll still get >400ms ping to Europe.

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I'm thinking about taking a sailing (yachting) course in the Mediterranean Sea this coming September or October. Thus far from my research, it seems that most courses are held in locations with not many digital nomads. My thinking is that it would be more fun to go to a place with like-minded people. Therefore, I'm wondering if anyone else is interested in taking a sailing course in the Mediterranean this fall? If not, do you know a location that offers good sailing courses, where there is also many digital nomads / nomad infrastructure?

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Transactional Attorney with a focus on US Immigration. Burnt out doing the law firm thing. Trying to leverage skill to get on this digital nomad tip. Love the traveling experience, hostels, seeing new places, new cocktails etc etc.

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My interest in DN lifestyle started when half of our company have been taking 1 month for remote work @ Ko Samui. It was truly cool but we observed quite some communication challenges. Communication seemed just โ€œriskierโ€ when online.

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General range of cost?

Anyone bring their bike and glad they did? โ€ฆWish they didnโ€™t?.. :stuck_out_tongue:

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All members of my family has different needs and hobbies so how do you pick the perfect places?

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Looking for a warm place, possibly near the sea with excellent wifi


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hello :wave: Iโ€™m planning my next trip (from January/February), and Iโ€™m looking for a place where itโ€™s hot, with the sea, and good wifi.
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Iโ€™m thinking, South Africa or South America, what do you recommend?
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by @krzemian 2yr 2 years ago  | 3 comments

Hey, is there currently a way to save filter settings? I feel like it would be helpful for planning the trip as I have several ideas on what to target and would like to cycle between them

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How do you avoid settling in one place?


by @sukienniko 2yr 2 years ago  | 10 comments

As a follow up to my previous question (I guess I donโ€™t have the right to post links here?), but on a larger scale: if living as a nomad in a place for, say, more than a month (which will be beneficial for the sake of getting work done), how to you prevent yourself from getting too involved in the local society?

I find that every time I stay somewhere for a significant amount of time, I naturally start to settle into the idea that Iโ€™ll be there permanently, or at least long term. I guess this is human nature: wanting to have a stable lifestyle, with stable friends, relationship, workplace, recreational activities, etc. But, indeed, that is not my goal-- I believe the benefits of the nomadic lifestyle are far greater at this stage in my lifeโ€ฆ

So, for those of you who have successfully avoided settling somewhere time despite staying for months at a time, what strategies do you use to stay afloat, as in, not getting too deeply integrated locally?

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App/tool/service for nomads to bring things from another country?


by @brmolin 2yr 2 years ago  | 4 comments

I vaguely remember hearing about such a service before, but Iโ€™m drawing a blank on the name. Basically I left my tablet on a connecting flight in Europe, right before my main flight to Thailand. They have my tablet and are willing to ship it out for me, but people have warned me thereโ€™s a big risk of it getting โ€œlost in the mailโ€ if I ship something expensive like that to Thailand.

Iโ€™m wondering if thereโ€™s a service or community, where I can find a nomad whoโ€™s in Europe/heading to Thailand soon, so I can have it shipped to them in Europe and pay them to ferry it down here for me? I met someone in Budapest a ways back who had built something for this type of use-case, but I canโ€™t remember the name of it. Any help would be appreciated!

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