⭐️ Total score |
2.61/5 (Rank #953)
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👍 Quality of life score |
Okay |
👶 Family score |
Okay |
💵 Cost |
😙 Affordable: $2,426 / mo
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📡 Internet |
🏎 Fast: 11Mbps (avg)
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😝 Fun |
Good |
⛅️ Temperature (now) |
🥵 Too hot: 31°C88°F (feels 41°C106°F)
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💦 Humidity (now) |
🥵 Sweaty: 81%
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💨 Air quality (now) |
🌱 Good: 57 US AQI
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👌 Safety |
Bad
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👮♀️ Lack of crime* |
Very bad
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🤝 Lack of racism* |
Okay |
🎓 Education level* |
Mediocre |
💰 Income level* |
Low:
$1,471 / mo
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🙊 English speaking* |
Okay |
🚶 Walkability |
Great |
✌️ Peace (no pol. conflict) |
Okay |
🚦 Traffic safety* |
Bad |
🏥 Healthcare* |
Okay |
😄 Happiness* |
Good |
🍸 Nightlife |
Good |
📶 Free WiFi in city |
Okay |
🖥 Places to work from |
Great |
❄️ A/C or heating |
Bad |
😁 Friendly to foreigners |
Good |
🗯 Freedom of speech* |
Good |
👩 Female friendly |
Okay |
🌈 LGBTQ+ friendly |
Okay |
🎅 Startup Score |
Bad |
🌍 Continent | Latin America |
🚩 Country | Trinidad and Tobago |
⏱ Average trip length | 7 days |
📡 Internet speed (avg) | 11 Mbps |
⛅️ Weather (now) |
🌥 31°C 88°F + 🥵 Sweaty (81%) = feels 41°C 106°F
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💨 Air quality (now) | 👍 57 US AQI 🍃 OK |
🚑 Travel medical insurance |
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📱 Best wireless carrier | bmobile |
💸 10 TTD in USD | USD 1.47 |
🏧 Suggested ATM take out: | TTD 1,000 = USD 147 |
☕️ Best coffee place | Dianne Tea Shop |
☕️ Best alt. coffee place | Jaffa at the Oval |
🏪 Best 24/7 coffee place | LaunchRockit |
🚰 Tap water | 🚫 No, not drinkable |
👨👩👧👦 Population | 37,000 people |
👨👩👧👦 GDP per capita* | $17,646 / year |
🏞 Foreign land ownership allowed | Yes |
👫 Gender ratio (overall) |
👨 47% 👱♀️ 53% |
👫 Gender ratio (young adults) |
👨 54% 👱♀️ 46% |
⛪️ Religious government | Ambiguous |
🏠 Apartment listings | Trini Apartments |
✈️ Best short-haul air carrier | United |
✈️ Best int'l air carrier | United |
🏥 Best hospital | West Shore Medical |
💵 Cost of living for nomad | $2,426 / month |
💵 Cost of living for expat | $1,439 / month |
💵 Cost of living for family | $2,314 / month |
💵 Cost of living for local | $661 / month |
🏠 1br studio rent in center | $552 / month |
🏢 Coworking | $81 / month |
🏨 Hotel (median price) | $2,196 / month |
🏨 Hotel (median price) | $103 / night |
🏡 Airbnb (median from 111 listings) | $2,532 / month |
🏠 Airbnb (median price) | $83 / night |
🍛 Dinner | $7 |
🥤 Coca-Cola (0.3L) | $1 |
🍺 Beer (0.5L) | $1 |
☕️ Coffee | $1 |
✅ Fast internet
✅ Lots of fun stuff to do
✅ Warm now
✅ Warm all year round
✅ Good air quality on average
✅ Spacious and not crowded
✅ High quality of education
✅ Freedom of speech
✅ Democratic
✅ People can speak basic English
✅ Safe for women
✅ LGBTQ+ friendly
✅ Not many people smoke tobacco
❌ Not safe at all
❌ Very sweaty and humid now
❌ Difficult to do business
❌ Hospitals are bad
❌ Roads can be dangerous
❌ Not family friendly
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Real |
84
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very warm |
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Humidity |
sweaty 72% |
sweaty 72% |
sweaty 74% |
sweaty 71% |
sweaty 75% |
sweaty 76% |
sweaty 77% |
sweaty 78% |
sweaty 76% |
sweaty 76% |
sweaty 75% |
sweaty 75% |
Rain |
dry 46mm |
dry 37mm |
rainy 79mm |
dry 49mm |
rainy 136mm |
rainy 142mm |
rainy 209mm |
rainy 262mm |
rainy 170mm |
rainy 210mm |
rainy 102mm |
rainy 92mm |
Cloud |
cloudy 65% |
cloudy 55% |
cloudy 65% |
cloudy 75% |
cloudy 68% |
cloudy 79% |
cloudy 77% |
cloudy 72% |
cloudy 61% |
cloudy 75% |
cloudy 74% |
cloudy 81% |
Sun |
avoid sun 7 UVI |
avoid sun 9 UVI |
avoid sun 7 UVI |
avoid sun 7 UVI |
avoid sun 7 UVI |
avoid sun 7 UVI |
avoid sun 7 UVI |
avoid sun 7 UVI |
avoid sun 8 UVI |
avoid sun 7 UVI |
avoid sun 6 UVI |
avoid sun 6 UVI |
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Warm weather, good internet, relatively safe although crime is increasing due to higher unemployment, public transport is unreliable, cost of living is very high, sexual harassment of women is very common, quality of food is very low. Nice place overall but there are certainly better value for money alternatives, even in the Caribbean.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Pricey 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety bad Tap to open 🌤 Feels 37° 99° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 56 ✈️27min $3,564 / mo 34 Mbps ×⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety good Tap to open 🌥 Feels 41° 106° 31° 87° 🥵 AQI 59 ✈️35min $4,334 / mo 33 Mbps ×
The pictures here are nonsense. There are no high rises at the moment. Prices are also not in touch with reality, much higher actual because of the oil boom.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety bad Tap to open 🌧 Feels 39° 102° 30° 85° 🥵 AQI 57 ✈️45min $1,678 / mo 2 Mbps ×I come from venezuela and the hospitals are definitely not great, my family have to go to Colombia to get treatment when they get sick so you get an idea of the condition of the health care system in Venezuela. The rest of the pros and cons are pretty accurate 👌🏼
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun bad 👮 Safety very bad Tap to open 🌥 Feels 25° 77° 25° 76° AQI 66 ✈️46min $1,611 / mo 2 Mbps ×⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety bad Tap to open 🌤 Feels 37° 99° 29° 84° 🥵 AQI 39 ✈️48min $2,492 / mo 3 Mbps ×
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety very bad Tap to open 🌧 Feels 35° 95° 29° 85° 🥵 AQI 66 ✈️54min $1,945 / mo 1 Mbps ×
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun very bad 👮 Safety bad Tap to open 🌤 Feels 38° 100° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 33 ✈️58min $4,181 / mo 4 Mbps ×
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌤 Feels 38° 100° 30° 87° 🥵 AQI 66 ✈️1h $4,834 / mo 10 Mbps ×
Great island. Lived there for 20 years before I start traveling around. Don't forget it's expensive. All is imported, nothing grows there. And one other thing: you need a car. Public transport is bad and all locals have cars.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Pricey 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌤 Feels 39° 102° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 57 ✈️1h $3,015 / mo 9 Mbps ×⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety bad Tap to open 🌤 Feels 38° 100° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 33 ✈️1h $4,337 / mo 9 Mbps ×
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😝 Cheap 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety bad Tap to open 🌥 Feels 35° 95° 29° 85° 🥵 AQI 21 ✈️1h $897 / mo 3 Mbps ×
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😳 Way too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌤 Feels 38° 100° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 33 ✈️1h $5,634 / mo 5 Mbps ×
I'd avoid Toronto. Weather is miserable for 4-5 months a year. Nightlife is average. Taxes are high. Every conversation with someone from here devolves into how expensive it is (and honestly, it's not particularily expensive... compared to other large english speaking cities). Transit isn't great. City doesn't feel particularily well planned. If you want to live in a cold city, then go to Montreal or Berlin.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Pricey 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open ☀️ Feels 25° 77° 25° 76° AQI 38 ✈️5h $3,953 / mo 19 Mbps ×All in, Austin is a good city. We live in Hill Country now so we're a bit removed. But it's beautiful area once you get away from the highways. A good tech scene. Not too expensive (~$2100 for a nice 2 bedroom apt) for the U.S. Has wineries and breweries galore. Not a great place if you are a recovering alcoholic (!). Cons: extremely hot in the summer; reaches 110 F (43.3 C) in summer afternoons from June - September. Not very diverse. Highways are loud and obnoxious.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Pricey 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌥 Feels 49° 120° 35° 94° 🥵 AQI 32 ✈️6h $3,871 / mo 42 Mbps ×How did you guys classified Penge as rich? It is one of the worst neighbourhood I have ever been in London, the ammount of people I know that have been robbed there is appalling.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety good Tap to open 🌧 Feels 21° 70° 21° 70° AQI 52 ✈️9h $4,891 / mo 14 Mbps ×Panama City is a B+ place to live: solid weather, amenities, safety, and cleanliness... but, it feels much like an American city due to the skyscrapers, urban sprawl, and the limited activities. If you're not shopping, eating at a restaurant, bar hopping, or going to a reggaeton club until 3am, there's not a whole lot else to do. The weather is remarkably consistent: everyday it will be 85F, it will be cloudy for a few hours including a 15-30 minute shower, and then it will be mostly sunny for
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety bad Tap to open 🌧 Feels 36° 97° 29° 84° 🥵 AQI 21 ✈️3h $2,229 / mo 14 Mbps ×I spent 4 months working here during summertime. It's one of the best summers I have ever had in my life. The city is just amazing and offers dozens of outdoor activities. There are so many different places such as parks, lakes, hills, mountains, beaches, etc. Also, you can feel the Californication vibe on every step. I lived in Hollywood and I would avoid this place at any cost. It's just too overrated and won't meet your expectations. Hollywood (esp. West Hollywood) is a big pile of dirtiness
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open ☀️ Feels 34° 93° 31° 87° 🥵 AQI 44 ✈️8h $4,932 / mo 50 Mbps ×Great island. Lived there for 20 years before I start traveling around. Don't forget it's expensive. All is imported, nothing grows there. And one other thing: you need a car. Public transport is bad and all locals have cars.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Pricey 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌤 Feels 39° 102° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 57 ✈️1h $3,015 / mo 9 Mbps ×Hong Kong is a great city with dense urban areas but also nature and hiking routes only 15 minutes away. There are restaurants for every taste and budget, from the best US fast casual chains to high end Michelin star restaurants. It's also extremely safe, despite recent political instability.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🙂 Okay 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety good Tap to open 🌧 Feels 39° 102° 30° 85° 🥵 AQI 29 ✈️22h $2,514 / mo 87 Mbps ×⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open ☀️ Feels 24° 75° 24° 75° ✈️12h $1,800 / mo 3 Mbps ×
I've moved here permanently. Kids are in an elite school for $600pm, and I'm the only non-Colombian parent. I'm surprised there aren't more foreigners. Going to Gringo Tuesdays is a very touristy thing, I only ever went once everyone is 25 and trying to get laid basically, and its P$11,000 a beer, my local pub sells beer for $P2,000 by comparison. The longer you are here the more you discover. The "centre" of the city is really from 83rd-93rd-115th roughly, 83rd has loads of great clubs and rest
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety very bad Tap to open 🌧 Feels 17° 63° 17° 62° AQI 59 ✈️2h $1,022 / mo 🌇 Also went here6 people ×I've lived in New York City - Brooklyn - for over 20 years. For visiting tourists, the best neighborhood to stay in is NOT Bushwick. Park Slope, Prospect Heights, Ft. Green or Brooklyn Heights is preferable. Plenty of good transportation in those areas - subway, buses or Uber. Easy access to beaches in Long Island and New Jersey. There's plenty to do in NYC. Great restaurants, Broadway plays (!), and in the summer you frequently can catch a free concert.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😳 Way too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌧 Feels 28° 82° 27° 80° AQI 24 ✈️5h $5,323 / mo 🌇 Also went here8 people ×I really enjoyed my first week here, but as I got to know more locals and heard their stories, I was disturbed at the security situation. Almost everyone I met has horror stories about being robbed at gunpoint, robbed by the police, and in one case even drugged and robbed by a taxi driver. It's not even safe to walk a short distance at night (locals told me to just take Uber). Beyond the security issues, scams also abound, and the covid policy is wacky, with hand sanitizer being forced on you ev
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety bad Tap to open 🌧 Feels 19° 66° 19° 67° AQI 85 😷 ✈️6h $1,548 / mo 🌇 Also went here6 people ×All in, Austin is a good city. We live in Hill Country now so we're a bit removed. But it's beautiful area once you get away from the highways. A good tech scene. Not too expensive (~$2100 for a nice 2 bedroom apt) for the U.S. Has wineries and breweries galore. Not a great place if you are a recovering alcoholic (!). Cons: extremely hot in the summer; reaches 110 F (43.3 C) in summer afternoons from June - September. Not very diverse. Highways are loud and obnoxious.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Pricey 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌥 Feels 49° 120° 35° 94° 🥵 AQI 32 ✈️6h $3,871 / mo 🌇 Also went here5 people ×Was here for January 2022. It was very nice. It's a very European city with South American vibes. Due to high inflation, it's cheap. The steak is the best I've ever eaten. Go to AreaTres for coworking. Bring cash (EUR or USD) in large bills. Otherwise, you'll have to pay by card and get the official exchange rate, which is 50% of what you get on the black ("blue") market. There are many places to exchange cash. As an alternative to cash, I've also heard that people like to send themselves money
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😝 Cheap 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌥 Feels 18° 64° 17° 62° AQI 144 😷 ✈️7h $881 / mo 🌇 Also went here5 people ×How did SF get scored #98 on Nomad score? I agree with most of the reviews posted here. I generally work from home, but we recently rented a small conference room for a meeting. It was $250 per hour.. (yes Per Hour... no typos here).
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😳 Way too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun bad 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open ☀️ Feels 21° 70° 21° 70° AQI 25 ✈️9h $6,332 / mo 🌇 Also went here9 people ×Seattle is a great city, especially if you like nature, there are plenty of outdoor activities to do all year round. People are generally open-minded and friendly. The cost of living is high but it allows you to be able to afford other places on earth easily if you can find a job here. You can also find plenty of good restaurants and arts around in the city. I recommend to stay at least 3-6 months to get the feel of living a PNW life.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌥 Feels 25° 77° 25° 78° AQI 25 ✈️9h $4,830 / mo 🌇 Also went here5 people ×How did you guys classified Penge as rich? It is one of the worst neighbourhood I have ever been in London, the ammount of people I know that have been robbed there is appalling.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety good Tap to open 🌧 Feels 21° 70° 21° 70° AQI 52 ✈️9h $4,891 / mo 🌇 Also went here9 people ×Lived there last September and October and am coming back later this year. Yes, it is expensive, but after a while I learned about affordable places to eat and realized I could choose neighborhoods farther from city center, and it would still be nice. City feels super safe, even at nigh! Internet is crazy fast (I got 500mb on my airbnb) there are tons to do and see and I did not encounter the super rude Parisians people talk so much about, mostly everyone spoke English and were very polite. Rent
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🧐 Too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌧 Feels 24° 75° 24° 76° AQI 50.5 ✈️10h $4,797 / mo 🌇 Also went here6 people ×Super expensive city, with some nice tourist attractions. Wouldn't recommend staying here for a longer time as price levels are almost Parisienne. Also, you can easily see all the good spots within 3 days or so. Pros: - nice tourist attractions (quite a couple of them) - many food options - people are open & friendly Cons: - hella expensive - limited vegan food options - you should at least understand some Dutch or French to survive here
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🙂 Okay 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open 🌧 Feels 24° 75° 24° 76° AQI 59 ✈️10h $2,887 / mo 🌇 Also went here7 people ×A top city. Everything works, beautiful greenery (hehe), cycling everywhere, happy people, great nightlife... Lots to love about. For nomads? Not a chance. Price of housing is outrageous, and the city is expensive af. They charge you 4.5-5 eur for a capuccino, completely shameless. An hour of public transport is 3 euros. I could go on and on. I'd love to live there, but it's not worth it.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😳 Way too expensive 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety good Tap to open 🌧 Feels 23° 73° 23° 74° AQI 90 😷 ✈️10h $6,092 / mo 🌇 Also went here5 people ×Berlin is overall a great city to be. Food is cheap and everywhere, easy to go out and have fun/meet for business. Rent has crept up but still far better value than where I came from. Internet: 36 EUR/month get me 450/40 mbps (cable -> DOCSIS 3.0) Public transport is 2.70 EUR/ticket. No woman I know has said they felt unsafe. Some really odd, xenophobic sounding comments on here. Biggest downsides IMO: service quality at restaurants - not that people are rude, but they don't seem to particular
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 🙂 Okay 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun great 👮 Safety great Tap to open 🌥 Feels 33° 91° 31° 87° 🥵 AQI 76 😷 ✈️11h $2,897 / mo 🌇 Also went here4 people ×Skopje is certainly an interesting place to see, but where you shouldn't spend too much time. You can start here and take a trip around the country, as there are several places worth seeing. The city is safe, the air quality is very low and it does not get too cold in winter (though it does get cold). There isn't much to do, plus I visited the city during the time of the pandemic, which made it worse for socializing. Cheap prices and great Internet connection, even on the road between cities.
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun mediocre 👮 Safety mediocre Tap to open ☀️ Feels 34° 93° 31° 88° 🥵 AQI 31 ✈️12h $1,218 / mo 🌇 Also went here4 people ×This place should be number 1 on the Nomad list. Can’t fathom why the internet score is so low! We got anywhere from 100mbps upload and download in most cafe’s to 550mbps up and download in our apartment! The internet is blazing fast! The cost of living is great compared to places like Mexico which is becoming so expensive. I’d say it’s on par with COL in Canggu. The people are super friendly, the food is incredible and cheap! The views and endless amounts of things to do just blows your
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety very bad Tap to open 🌧 Feels 14° 57° 15° 60° AQI 18 ✈️13h $1,712 / mo 🌇 Also went here7 people ×I've been to Bangkok for almost two weeks now and I can't understand comments about the lack of soul or everything being on sale. Sure, there are some sketchy parts like massage parlour touts and an occasional ladyboy here and there, but overall my impression is that it's just a regular big city with some clear advantages. Coming from Central Europe, I find everybody to be very calm and polite. Some may argue it's just a facade and fair enough, but I prefer a calm and kind facade over cold and i
⭐️ OverallAll 💵 Cost 😙 Affordable 📡 InternetWiFi 🏎 Fast 😀 Fun good 👮 Safety good Tap to open 🌤 Feels 38° 100° 30° 86° 🥵 AQI 65 ✈️22h $1,277 / mo 🌇 Also went here4 people ×