Maybe some of you know good tips ?
Thank you for helping.
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| 🌍 Region | Asia |
| 🚩 Country | South Korea |
| ⏱ Average trip duration | 14 days |
| 📡 Internet speed (avg) | 19 Mbps |
| ⛅️ Weather (now) | 🌤 22°C 71°F + Not humid (61%) = feels 22°C 72°F |
| 💨 Air quality (now) | 👍 20 US AQI 🍃 good |
| 💨 Air quality (annual avg) | 😷 127 US AQI = 🚬 🚬 / day |
| 🔌 Power | 230V60Hz |
| 🧔 Best neighborhood to stay | Seongsu-dong |
| 🚀 Upcoming neighborhood | Sillim-dong |
| 🚕 Best taxi app (in country) | |
| 🚑 Travel medical insurance |  Safetywing |
| 📱 Best wireless carrier | KT Olleh |
| 💸 10,000 KRW in USD | USD 8.54 |
| 🏧 Suggested ATM take out: | KRW 100,000 = USD 85 |
| 💸 Tipping | No |
| 💳 Cashless society | 💳 Yes, cards OK almost everywhere |
| 💻 Best coworking space | Campus Seoul |
| 💻 Best alt. coworking space | Hive Arena |
| ☕️ Best coffee place | CowNDog |
| ☕️ Best alt. coffee place | Coffee Bean |
| 🏪 Best 24/7 coffee place | Tom N Toms @ Konkuk |
| 🚰 Safe tap water | 👌 Yes, drinkable |
| ♻️ Return rate | 14% of visitors return |
| 📸 Visitors per year | 7,659,100 visitors |
| 📸 Tourists now | 146,786 tourists |
| 👨👩👧👦 Population | 9,800,000 people |
| 😤 Population density | 😤 crowded: 8x8m (64m²) per person |
| 🏞 Foreign land ownership allowed | Yes |
| 👫 Gender ratio (overall) | 👨 47% 👱♀️ 53% |
| 👫 Gender ratio (young adults) | 👨 56% 👱♀️ 44% |
| ⛪️ Religious government | Non-religious |
| 💻 Online electronics shop | Gmarket |
| 🏠 Apartment listings | Craigslist Seoul |
| ✈️ Best short-haul air carrier | Jeju Air |
| ✈️ Best int'l air carrier | Korean Air |
| 🏥 Best hospital | Seoul National University Hospital |
| 💵 Cost of living for nomad | $2,228 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for expat | $1,659 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for family | $4,305 / month |
| 💵 Cost of living for local | $1,230 / month |
| 🏠 1br studio rent in center | $939 / month |
| 🏢 Coworking | $85 / month |
| 🏨 Hotel | $967 / month |
| 🏨 Hotel | $45 / night |
| 🏠 Airbnb (1,001 listings) | $1,323 / month |
| 🏠 Airbnb | $43 / night |
| 🍛 Dinner | $10 |
| 🥤 Coca-Cola (0.3L) | $1 |
| 🍺 Beer (0.5L) | $3 |
| ☕️ Coffee | $4 |
Maybe some of you know good tips ?
Thank you for helping.
I’ve been in Seoul for almost 3 Months this year. From what I’ve seen there are quite many rooms being rented on Craigslist and many of the posts are serious and not some rip-offs like in other places. I’ve stayed in a room from Craigslist and it was great and I saw there were quite a few others too.
Personally I would not recommend Itaewon because it’s really a foreigner ghetto there. I’ve been in Songpa (one of the less central areas) and I was quite happy there. Obviously many people do not speak English, but I’ve had the impression they usually try their best to be able to communicate, and learning the Korean characters is super easy which also helps (took me about 4 hours).
One of the things I really enjoyed in Seoul is that there are tons of 24h cafes, which was great for me because I usually work at night.
I was wondering if anyone found out anything more since the last post in April '15.
The habang.co.kr link above isn’t working anymore.
I’m planning to stay in Seoul for a few weeks this spring. Last time I was there I tried the Goshiwon and wouldn’t want to do that again. I also stayed in some ridiculously expensive AirBnBs, two of the three I tried having been of pretty low quality, so I’d be curious how to find a better option. Anything besides Craigslist?
I lived in Seoul for 4 years.
Its a tough housing market because of the key money concept. Basically, the landlord asks for 6-8 months rent up front as a security deposit.
You could look for goshiwon/goshitels. They are one room places that cater to students. I just found this site http://www.habang.co.kr/b_go_se_en?ckattempt=1
The other thing you could do is look into Itaewon/Haebangchon, the foreign ghetto. It can suck, but the language barrier won’t be so bad.
Good luck.
Aha, Japan is pretty much the same but it’s not a deposit, it’s a non-returnable gift. Are guesthouses for foreigners popular in Seoul? They are common in Tokyo and not as pricey, also available for one month or more.
I only spent a few nights in Seoul but all the Koreans I met complained about the price of housing there.
Hi @kathrynoh, I am also planning to visit South Korea for 3 months from July to October this year. Have been looking through AirBnb and Couch Surfing but yet to find any good deals. Most of the Couch Surfers are looking at a few days while longer term would be AirBnb and hostels. Do you think house sitting is available in Seoul or something?
I’ve been thinking about going to Seoul for a while this year and would be interested in knowing too.
I have had a look through Airbnb listings and some are by companies that you can google and book with direct, possibly making it a bit cheaper.
Out of the 3 Areas which would be most beneficial for a foreigner moving to SK?
(If you have experience with areas specifically I’d love to discuss the specific schools that are offering her a position - Not posting that here for obvious reasons.)
My Girlfriend has received 3 contract offers in Seoul/Surrounding area:
i) Dobonggu
ii) Songpa-gu
iii) Bundang, Gyenggido
Background knowledge:
We love being physically active through sport and weight-lifting, love exploring food culture, need good Coffee and live very modestly in terms of going out/expenditure.
I lived in Jamsil, Song-pa for a year and it was quite oppressive. I would recommend Bundang for sure.
Hello, James.
I’m from Seoul, South Korea, so I might be of help to help you understand those areas to some extent.
Dobonggu is a less fancy district compared to other two areas. There is a mountain called ‘Bukhansan’ known for a beautiful hiking trail. But shops/restaurants/gyms and other facilities could be less various. Rents in Dobonggu are one of the cheapest in Seoul.
Songpagu is one of the four infamous districts in Gangnam (which literally means the southern area of Han River but it is more conceived of as the area in which rich and wealthy people live) where rents are the highest and the fervor for education is just frantic. The education level in these areas is top-notch in the whole country and parents can be very demanding. But it could be good in terms of living as there are so many entertaining/leisure/cultural facilities around you.
Bundang is outside of Seoul and it takes about 40-50 minutes to enter Seoul area with public transport. Bundang is a very well-established new town and people who choose to live there are more likely to have preference to a laid-back lifestyle within urban surroundings. Although it’s less crowded than Seoul, the so-called ‘education fever’ is as high as the districts in Gangnam.
I haven’t lived in these areas in person so I can’t give you more detailed information. But hopefully this will help you guys decide where to live. And don’t worry about finding gyms, restaurants, or cafes wherever you choose to live. They are everywhere. Cheers.
@hyobii - You are a treat! this information is very valuable especially from someone who is from South Korea as most of our conversations up to this point has been from Expats/Foreigners.
We are leaning towards Bundang at this point and your words about this location are very affirming.
If you don’t mind - I wouldn’t mind widening this conversation a bit, we already ran into a small issue in cultural difference when we announced that we were coming together as "Girlfriend/Boyfriend"
So bad to the point that my partner lost her first contract in Gangam because of it… (Super frustrating) The interviews after she started referring to me as her Finance/Husband and this drastically changed the perspective/critical view/assumptions.
Do you mind speaking on this a bit and maybe other cultural differences Westerners should be mindful of when relocating to SK?
Korean people can be conservative when it comes cohabitation. Of course there are numerous unmarried couples who live together, but it’s hard for most of them to make it public. Especially to their parents and at work.
The underlying notion of this dates back to Joseon Dynasty where the ruling principle was Confucianism. One of the ethical ideas of Confucianism is a strict segregation of men and women. More specifically speaking “A boy and a girl should not sit together after they have reached the age of seven”. The Joseon Dynasty perished about a century ago and sadly we are not free from these out-of-date ideas up until now.
So in Korea, living with your girlfriend/boyfriend could be seen as an indecent behavior by the majority of people. Teachers are required even higher behavioral standards as kids will learn from them. I understand your frustration, and I’m totally against these ridiculous social norms in Korea, but unfortunately it’s something your girlfriend should’ve kept from the school.
As well as cohabitation, Koreans are not very open-minded towards gay marriage, single moms, Africans or immigrants from developing countries.
And If I can point out one thing out of many other cultural differences you might face in Korea, it’s age. Koreans are very sensitive to age. It’s like if they are older than others, they act like the younger are at their disposal. On the contrary, if they are younger then they will use honorifics and be courteous and respectful of the older. It’s different from respecting ‘the elder’. It happens in all age groups. Another side effect of Confucianism I guess.
One last practical tip. Download KakaoTalk. WhatsApp, Line, or FB messenger will be useless in Korea. If you have more questions, find ‘hyoba’ on KakaoTalk.
What are some of the places in Seoul, South Korea where I can meet people who work in tech/startups?
Which events, cafes, free workspaces, etc should I look at?
Hi @gonchs,
I can thoroughly recommend the co-working space Hive Arena (http://en.hivearena.com/) in Seoul. I’ve only managed to make it there a couple of times as I’m not living in Seoul, however every time the people there have been super friendly. You can just turn up and pay for a day at at time if you don’t want to get a membership.
They also have a Slack team, which is a nice way of keeping in touch with people.
Hope that helps!
Simon
Maybe some of you know good tips ?
Thank you for helping.
I’ve been in Seoul for almost 3 Months this year. From what I’ve seen there are quite many rooms being rented on Craigslist and many of the posts are serious and not some rip-offs like in other places. I’ve stayed in a room from Craigslist and it was great and I saw there were quite a few others too.
Personally I would not recommend Itaewon because it’s really a foreigner ghetto there. I’ve been in Songpa (one of the less central areas) and I was quite happy there. Obviously many people do not speak English, but I’ve had the impression they usually try their best to be able to communicate, and learning the Korean characters is super easy which also helps (took me about 4 hours).
One of the things I really enjoyed in Seoul is that there are tons of 24h cafes, which was great for me because I usually work at night.
I was wondering if anyone found out anything more since the last post in April '15.
The habang.co.kr link above isn’t working anymore.
I’m planning to stay in Seoul for a few weeks this spring. Last time I was there I tried the Goshiwon and wouldn’t want to do that again. I also stayed in some ridiculously expensive AirBnBs, two of the three I tried having been of pretty low quality, so I’d be curious how to find a better option. Anything besides Craigslist?
I lived in Seoul for 4 years.
Its a tough housing market because of the key money concept. Basically, the landlord asks for 6-8 months rent up front as a security deposit.
You could look for goshiwon/goshitels. They are one room places that cater to students. I just found this site http://www.habang.co.kr/b_go_se_en?ckattempt=1
The other thing you could do is look into Itaewon/Haebangchon, the foreign ghetto. It can suck, but the language barrier won’t be so bad.
Good luck.
Aha, Japan is pretty much the same but it’s not a deposit, it’s a non-returnable gift. Are guesthouses for foreigners popular in Seoul? They are common in Tokyo and not as pricey, also available for one month or more.
I only spent a few nights in Seoul but all the Koreans I met complained about the price of housing there.
Hi @kathrynoh, I am also planning to visit South Korea for 3 months from July to October this year. Have been looking through AirBnb and Couch Surfing but yet to find any good deals. Most of the Couch Surfers are looking at a few days while longer term would be AirBnb and hostels. Do you think house sitting is available in Seoul or something?
I’ve been thinking about going to Seoul for a while this year and would be interested in knowing too.
I have had a look through Airbnb listings and some are by companies that you can google and book with direct, possibly making it a bit cheaper.
Out of the 3 Areas which would be most beneficial for a foreigner moving to SK?
(If you have experience with areas specifically I’d love to discuss the specific schools that are offering her a position - Not posting that here for obvious reasons.)
My Girlfriend has received 3 contract offers in Seoul/Surrounding area:
i) Dobonggu
ii) Songpa-gu
iii) Bundang, Gyenggido
Background knowledge:
We love being physically active through sport and weight-lifting, love exploring food culture, need good Coffee and live very modestly in terms of going out/expenditure.
I lived in Jamsil, Song-pa for a year and it was quite oppressive. I would recommend Bundang for sure.
Hello, James.
I’m from Seoul, South Korea, so I might be of help to help you understand those areas to some extent.
Dobonggu is a less fancy district compared to other two areas. There is a mountain called ‘Bukhansan’ known for a beautiful hiking trail. But shops/restaurants/gyms and other facilities could be less various. Rents in Dobonggu are one of the cheapest in Seoul.
Songpagu is one of the four infamous districts in Gangnam (which literally means the southern area of Han River but it is more conceived of as the area in which rich and wealthy people live) where rents are the highest and the fervor for education is just frantic. The education level in these areas is top-notch in the whole country and parents can be very demanding. But it could be good in terms of living as there are so many entertaining/leisure/cultural facilities around you.
Bundang is outside of Seoul and it takes about 40-50 minutes to enter Seoul area with public transport. Bundang is a very well-established new town and people who choose to live there are more likely to have preference to a laid-back lifestyle within urban surroundings. Although it’s less crowded than Seoul, the so-called ‘education fever’ is as high as the districts in Gangnam.
I haven’t lived in these areas in person so I can’t give you more detailed information. But hopefully this will help you guys decide where to live. And don’t worry about finding gyms, restaurants, or cafes wherever you choose to live. They are everywhere. Cheers.
@hyobii - You are a treat! this information is very valuable especially from someone who is from South Korea as most of our conversations up to this point has been from Expats/Foreigners.
We are leaning towards Bundang at this point and your words about this location are very affirming.
If you don’t mind - I wouldn’t mind widening this conversation a bit, we already ran into a small issue in cultural difference when we announced that we were coming together as "Girlfriend/Boyfriend"
So bad to the point that my partner lost her first contract in Gangam because of it… (Super frustrating) The interviews after she started referring to me as her Finance/Husband and this drastically changed the perspective/critical view/assumptions.
Do you mind speaking on this a bit and maybe other cultural differences Westerners should be mindful of when relocating to SK?
Korean people can be conservative when it comes cohabitation. Of course there are numerous unmarried couples who live together, but it’s hard for most of them to make it public. Especially to their parents and at work.
The underlying notion of this dates back to Joseon Dynasty where the ruling principle was Confucianism. One of the ethical ideas of Confucianism is a strict segregation of men and women. More specifically speaking “A boy and a girl should not sit together after they have reached the age of seven”. The Joseon Dynasty perished about a century ago and sadly we are not free from these out-of-date ideas up until now.
So in Korea, living with your girlfriend/boyfriend could be seen as an indecent behavior by the majority of people. Teachers are required even higher behavioral standards as kids will learn from them. I understand your frustration, and I’m totally against these ridiculous social norms in Korea, but unfortunately it’s something your girlfriend should’ve kept from the school.
As well as cohabitation, Koreans are not very open-minded towards gay marriage, single moms, Africans or immigrants from developing countries.
And If I can point out one thing out of many other cultural differences you might face in Korea, it’s age. Koreans are very sensitive to age. It’s like if they are older than others, they act like the younger are at their disposal. On the contrary, if they are younger then they will use honorifics and be courteous and respectful of the older. It’s different from respecting ‘the elder’. It happens in all age groups. Another side effect of Confucianism I guess.
One last practical tip. Download KakaoTalk. WhatsApp, Line, or FB messenger will be useless in Korea. If you have more questions, find ‘hyoba’ on KakaoTalk.
What are some of the places in Seoul, South Korea where I can meet people who work in tech/startups?
Which events, cafes, free workspaces, etc should I look at?
Hi @gonchs,
I can thoroughly recommend the co-working space Hive Arena (http://en.hivearena.com/) in Seoul. I’ve only managed to make it there a couple of times as I’m not living in Seoul, however every time the people there have been super friendly. You can just turn up and pay for a day at at time if you don’t want to get a membership.
They also have a Slack team, which is a nice way of keeping in touch with people.
Hope that helps!
Simon
✅ Pretty safe
✅ Fast internet
✅ Lots of fun stuff to do
✅ Warm now
✅ Perfect humidity now
✅ Good air quality today
✅ Nomad List members liked going here
✅ Many Nomad List members here all year round
✅ Very easy to do business
✅ High quality of education
✅ Great hospitals
✅ Roads are pretty safe
✅ Freedom of speech
✅ Democratic
✅ Very safe for women
✅ Family friendly
✅ LGBTQ+ friendly
❌ Gets very cold in the winter
❌ Feels crowded
❌ Very difficult to make friends
❌ People don't speak English well
❌ People smoking tobacco a lot
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| Cloud | pockets 28% | cloudy 51% | pockets 48% | cloudy 59% | pockets 35% | cloudy 54% | cloudy 65% | cloudy 55% | cloudy 85% | pockets 37% | pockets 50% | cloudy 55% |
| Air quality | okay 90 US AQI | okay 100 US AQI | okay 115 US AQI | okay 87 US AQI | okay 93 US AQI | okay 86 US AQI | clean 65 US AQI | clean 56 US AQI | clean 44 US AQI | clean 59 US AQI | okay 82 US AQI | okay 90 US AQI |
| Sun | safe 2 UVI | safe 3 UVI | sunscreen 4 UVI | sunscreen 5 UVI | sunscreen 6 UVI | sunscreen 6 UVI | sunscreen 6 UVI | sunburn 7 UVI | sunscreen 5 UVI | sunscreen 4 UVI | safe 3 UVI | safe 2 UVI |
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⭐️ Score 💵 Cost 📡 Internet 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 17° 63° 17° 62°AQI 38✈️12h$3,898 / mo🌇 Also went here297 peopleSuper fun and beautiful city. I find Parisians are actually very patient and warm if you at least at
⭐️ Score 💵 Cost 📡 Internet 😀 Fun 👮 Safety 🌧 Feels 21° 70° 21° 70°AQI 35✈️12h$4,075 / mo🌇 Also went here267 peopleI've been living in SF since 2014 and I have to say Cost of Living is misrepresented. It's a lot mor
⭐️ Score 💵 Cost 📡 Internet 😀 Fun 👮 Safety ☀️ Feels 21° 70° 21° 69°AQI 25✈️12h$5,725 / mo🌇 Also went here234 peopleNothing does a better job of explaining LA’s beautiful diversity and different neighborhoods than
⭐️ Score 💵 Cost 📡 Internet 😀 Fun 👮 Safety ☀️ Feels 30° 86° 28° 82°AQI 74✈️13h$4,317 / mo🌇 Also went here209 peopleDuring winter is quite safe plus much cheaper. Some nightclubs are free and yet there is still a lot
⭐️ Score 💵 Cost 📡 Internet 😀 Fun 👮 Safety ☀️ Feels 29° 84° 27° 81°AQI 38✈️13h$2,882 / mo🌇 Also went here243 peopleHaving spent a total of two weeks in London on two separate occasions and having lived in NYC for tw
⭐️ Score 💵 Cost 📡 Internet 😀 Fun 👮 Safety ☀️ Feels 24° 75° 24° 76°AQI 26✈️15h$4,723 / mo🌇 Also went here284 people
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