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To those of you that aren't technical, what do you do to earn money?

 

by @theblakemoore6yr  | 27 comments

Hey guys!

Iโ€™m new around here and thought Iโ€™d ask a question Iโ€™ve been wondering for a while now. Iโ€™m set to sample the nomadic lifestyle soon and Iโ€™m currently trying to define what my skillset is, and what Iโ€™m going to do long term.

Iโ€™m sure many of you have been through this, but itโ€™s difficult knowing what youโ€™re good at! Iโ€™m not a developer and I know there must be so many of you that arenโ€™t working in technical roles. So I was just curious, for those of you that arenโ€™t developers (or even those of you that are with an additional side-hussle) what do you do to earn money on the road?

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@theguy4yr

I own several wordpress sites where I do drop-shipping business on which is going quite well for me! Thanks to Facebook ads for marketing!

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Copywriting, customer service/email correspondence, and transcription at times.

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Thanks for re-opening this @elisha!

So my nomadic journey is still going strong. Iโ€™ve done some pretty varied stuff over the past 8/9 months. I started off freelancing on PeoplePerHour and Upwork but didnโ€™t really make much money from that (competition was crazy).

I then went on a bit of a mission to pick up a remote job, and I did. I was working on a growth executive with a startup based out of NYC for 6 months. I learnt a tonne and felt I made some real steps forward in an industry I really enjoy!

I recently finished up on that though, because travelling around a tonne has really sparked my entrepreneurial spirit and I really want to start something on my own. This has been helped a lot by being in Chiang Mai for the last couple of months, there are so many business owners here who are killing it. I couldnโ€™t help myself.

So now Iโ€™ve just launched my own business called Websitely (www.websitely.co) that is a Wordpress design agency. Idea is to apply to same growth hacking principles I learnt in my previous contract to this and see what happens.

In terms of the money, Iโ€™ve got a pretty decent runway by being pretty frugal and some cash stored in the bank, so Iโ€™ve got a few months to make it happen.

So happy I made the jump though. I know working out on the way isnโ€™t for everyone and I wouldnโ€™t advise you necessarily do it the way I am doing it. One thing I did take away though is that you can learn as much (if not more) through a remote job than you can in a traditional office environment. I had so much responsibility and autonomy it was crazy. I became really strong on the project management side of things too, as planning and implementation was key when you werenโ€™t in the same location as the rest of the team!

If youโ€™ve got any more questions about anything, hit me up!

Also I was actually just interviewed for a podcast about my journey so far, if youโ€™re interested, check it out: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/01-blake-moore-on-growthhacking/id1130647335?i=1000371784277&mt=2 :slight_smile:

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Iโ€™m a coach and I teach online courses on writing and practical magic.

I work with clients on Skype and I teach via webinar and Facebook groups.

Itโ€™s a pretty awesome location-independent life, and I couldnโ€™t code to save my life :wink:

I guess I have โ€œtechโ€ skills in the sense that I can set up wordpress websites and email marketing funnels, but it only took me a month or two to learn to do that, and also itโ€™s totally possible to just hire folks to build business websites for you of course.

So yes, thereโ€™s plenty of options for nomadic work that donโ€™t involve tech skillz.

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@sonia6yr

same here. I am a psychotherapist and instead of working in a private practice back home, I am now doing my counselling/therapy trough skype.

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When I decided to go down this path, I really wondered what I would do to put all those beers in my hand while overseas. I donโ€™t have any tech skills and did feel kind of lost and hopeless when looking for remote/freelance jobs. After a month or so of kicking ideas around in my office, I kind of woke up and realized I could just keep doing what I was doing, but as a freelancer. So I became a freelance attorney. I just told people I met through my career what I was doing, signed up on some websites, and the work started coming in! I think everyone has a skill set, or work experience, that they can translate to an income to live the lifestyle. Itโ€™s just a matter of figuring out what it is, and how to market it.

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@yeoa6yr

Just asked this as my question in my introduction @blake and I often wonder the same thing. Reading all the responses here, it seems writing/blogging/translating are the common themes but what @gigigriffis and @ani rightly pointed out, it definitely isnโ€™t an easy way to make money for a few reasons.

Iโ€™m personally a freelance food writer (Iโ€™ve been writing for free on the side just because I love trying new food) as it is but what Iโ€™ve found is:

  • Once you use it to pay bills, it becomes quite a chore to churn out words onto a page especially if thatโ€™s not your background
  • Standing out from the crowd is not the easiest job and hitting deadlines sucks
  • Iโ€™ve never asked, but Iโ€™m not 100% sure the money you make is necessarily scalable enough to support the lifestyle unless youโ€™re quite professional - aka. the ramp up time is quite steep

Those are my thoughts anyway, not to say itโ€™s impossible, but it does seem much more difficult which is why Iโ€™m trying to find other alternatives. Learning to code/develop might not be a bad skill set to have in the long run.

Iโ€™d love to hear what others have to say outside of translating/writing - like consultancy services they may have started and their journey to success from there?

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@voskovek6yr

Iโ€™m a 3D Designer. I work mostly with architectural visualization and product rendering (most of my clients in this area are Amazon sellers).

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I am interested in hearing more, if you could entertain my curiosity. 3D CAD drafting design?
I ask because the vast majority of my engineering experience that can most easily be translated to a nomadic lifestyle is in CAD drafting or the like. Is this work free-lanced based?

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@voskovek5yr

I work mostly with architectural visualization and also rendering products for different purposes (e-shops and Amazon listings, printed marketing material, packaging, etc). I work as a freelancer, I have a few clients that constantly provide me with projects. Itโ€™s a bit tricky sometimes because everywhere I travel I need a very fast internet connectionโ€ฆ

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@amy6yr

Iโ€™m a quality assurance engineer and software tester. Iโ€™m not technical at all but I do know my way around computers a bit.

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I am freelance writer for students who buy essay here usa and this job allow me to earn good money without spending much time on it.

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I work as a customer support/service agent and a virtual travel agent/planner, as well as managing my family and friends with their holiday rentals business in Croatia (e.g. managing properties on Airbnb and other portals, communicating with guests, giving advice etc.)

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@patrick6yr

I work as a designer to help brand with their branding.

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@sarab6yr

hi!

I am also a translator (more localiser for games and apps) and a copywriter/writer. I do English-Italian and separately English and Italian writing, being bilingual.

I could have been (and partly have been) a nomad from the start, several years ago.

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@lucinda6yr

I write! not even a blog, I write fiction and sell my work mostly on Amazon. I am a firm believer in โ€œanyone can do thisโ€.

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This is something Iโ€™d love to do more of. Iโ€™m going to be self-pubbing some Sci-Fi stuff in the new year.

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@lucha546yr

I do Virtual assistant workโ€ฆ research, Wordpress setup, SEO, copy editing, graphic design, customer service, business development. Right now itโ€™s a lot of social media managing and campaigns (Pinterest in particular).

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@ld6yr

I read a LOT of travel / DN blogs and so many of them write for their blog, for other publications, other blogs etc, with NO prior experience as a writer. And itโ€™s how they make money! It seems that as a traveler, your perspective is already in demand, so much so that writing experience or skills fall second to being in a cool location that someone wants you to write about. After I learned this, it was really a, โ€œwow, anyone can do thisโ€ realization :slight_smile:

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This is pretty misleading. Iโ€™m a career writer and I know a lot of other writers and itโ€™s a tough thing to get into unless youโ€™re already talented/skilled. I worry when I see all this info about there about how โ€œeasyโ€ it isโ€ฆI have yet to meet a writer that was able to make ends meet without either full-time work experience as a writer or at least two years of writing for free/very little pay before they started getting paid.

If you are a skilled and talented writer and love doing it, by all means, go for it! But please donโ€™t think itโ€™s an easy way to become a nomad or make money.

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Agreed. The same goes for being a literary translator. You have to be a skillful and sensitive writer as well as have an excellent command of the languages involved. When I first started out, I had live on next to nothing, and even now I have to supplement my translation (itโ€™s all literary - commercial translation is a different story) with proofreading and editing work to make sure Iโ€™ve got something to invoice for at the end of the month.

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@levelsio6yr

Hey @Blake, I just added a non-tech category to Remote OK: https://remoteok.io/remote-non-tech-jobs.

Thereโ€™s now more non-tech jobs than ever, including copywriting, community management and sales. Before Iโ€™d say โ€œlearn to codeโ€, but maybe this is a better way!

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there was a thread about this recently that you might find helpful.

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Iโ€™m a translator and copy editor/proofreader. In order to support myself when I went freelance, I took on long-term house-sits; now that the money is more regular, Iโ€™m renting (cheaply) more often than house-sitting.

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@lucha546yr

What language do you translate? Iโ€™m a non technical DN as well and I love working with words (although no creative writing). Where do you find proofreading work?

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Lucha, I translate from Russian, and itโ€™s pretty much all literary translation. The proofreading and copy editing work is mostly commercial and has come through the translation connection - I review texts translated principally from the Scandinavian languages, but also from other languages, as well as those written by non-native speakers of English. All of the work has come through word of mouth.

I see that youโ€™re a virtual assistant with a broad range of skills on offer!

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@lucha546yr

Cool that you speak Russian! I can do Spanish --> English translations but Iโ€™m not unique in that respectโ€ฆ

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Hi guys,

After the Netherlands, the Bay Area, Colorado and being on the van life for 8 months, I am now in Sedona, AZ with a few other digital nomads. We are sharing a home here and are wondering if there are more like minded people in the area.

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Hi everybody. I live and work in Germany and want to go to Canary Islands for 6 months to work from there. I'm going to keep my current job, just change the "home" in the home office part of things. Are there any tax issues I have to be aware of? I was reading about becoming a residence after 183 days, thus having to pay taxes there plus my employer having to register there. Does anybody know how it works exactly? Thanks a lot!

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Did you learn any Thai before staying in Chiang Mai?


in Chiang Mai, Thailand by @digitaldiva1yr 1 year ago | 0 comments

Iโ€™m curious to know how many people learned some Thai before going there. Learning languages is a hobby of mine but Iโ€™m very put off by how complex the writing system is, and if I decide not to learn it Iโ€™ll probably cross Chiang Mai off my bucket list. I prefer to be at least conversational in a language before I do an extended stay in a country. Iโ€™m curious how people who learned no Thai did getting by. And Iโ€™m curious, from people who did learn some, if itโ€™s any easier than it seems? Thanks!

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by @superquest4yr 3 years ago | 0 comments

Hi everybody.

I want to spend a month or two learning to paint and exercising intensely. I know, itโ€™s kind of a random question but maybe someone here can help. Below a little more detail about what Iโ€™m looking for.

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Hey all,

I am planning to move over to South America next year, and in preparation I want to start learning Spanish.

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Just had this fun idea, what would everyone like to learn? especially if it may assist/enable/continue your nomad life possibly in another direction? I was thinking that if there was to be a nomadforum retreat this could be useful for all of us to figure out ideas for talks that we could give to teach each other :slight_smile:

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Xamarin mobile development - Not a strong priority depending if I need to contract or if there are even remote roles out there to contract on. Currently it seems the typical full stack JS/Rails type dev is far more in demand in a remote capacity.

Unity/Unreal game engine - Ironically most of my Unity experience comes from actually successfully debugging or helping rewrite friendsโ€™ projects despite having no experience building anything of my own yet lol. Often similar problems that occur with any game development or engine though, yay for experience :wink: Similar to Xamarin the problem is laying the down the foundation for time to focus but my most immediate projects wonโ€™t be built in either quite yet.

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If you should learn any skill which one would it be?

 

by @martabcn6yr 6 years ago | 28 comments

Hello!

Iโ€™m Marta from Barcelona. Iโ€™ve studied advertising but Iโ€™ve been working all these years in costumer service and tourism. Iโ€™m very curious person and I have knowledge a little bit of everything but I donโ€™t have a special skill developed.
I have been looking for a job in costumer service remotely but spanish spoken countries to work in that way is not very common yet.

I would like to work remotely and I would like to focus in one/two specific skills (SOcial media, wordpress, seoโ€ฆ?).

Any advice from your own experience?

Anyone that have been started from zero?

Thank you! :smile:

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