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I have a few more plans written down, but I’m mostly interested in your ideas where I should steer this ship, and also any feedback on what I’ve been doing right, and more interestingly: wrong.
If you created moderators for each city as other people have mentioned. Would really help increase content and quality of listings. Many of us have been in cities or areas for years. Think reddit or the the slack chat channels.
Add more photos to each city! I think it’d be really nice if users were able to share pics in an image gallery so that others could have something to look at while they’re checking out city stats.
Hey, it is great what you are doing with NomadList, i am happy that this site exists and i feel a great vibe around the nomad community. As i joined the Slack channels, i was happy on one side, but sad that all these resources were in a walled garden. I respect your work and i admit that i went through the payment process in order to reach the chat channel related to the country i am currently in, but it would be great if you could find a business model that allowed you to keep open the channels for sharing of information among nomads
To participate though, people need to pay to become a member.
The thing is I don’t see another way. Advertising simply can’t pay for the cost to maintain and develop this site. I run it myself alone and make and develop everything myself. I like doing it, but there needs to be money coming from somewhere. Asking people to pay seems to be the easiest way right now.
I don’t want to sell your user data, or that kind of freaky shit. Also it wouldn’t make enough money at this volume (1000s of users), you’d need 100s of millions of users to make it affordable (e.g. Google, Facebook).
At this scale, I need to ask people for money to keep the site up and running and evolving. I hope you understand and thanks for supporting me!
I also think that having a blog post that highlights what to do in each cities is a good idea. Also I like going to a city for a special local event, that would be cool to integrate that, maybe by using a calendar of national events. Something I always need to know is what is the cheapest way to travel from the airport. It’s always super expensive and the locals always know tricks about it.
I’d like to be able to choose the currency that the cost of living appears in, as my life is measured out in pounds sterling or euros. As it is it’s useful for comparing cities, but not too helpful if I want to measure against my budget. To do that I have to convert into my own currency.
Along the same lines as City Experts, if you had a wiki for each city, that could be helpful. People who have lived in the city could curate it and add stuff like a list of cool coffee shops with good internet, parks, attractions, fun things to do, different foods to try, or descriptions of the different parts of the city.
Newcommers on the slack channel (at least the one for Chiang Mai), tend to ask very similar questions. It could be helpful to be able to point them to a wiki page about the city. I know there is already some great basic information on each city on nomadlist but I think having a wiki page could be very useful.
I think I like to see this place be that. That’s why it’s a question and answer site, so in the long-term it’ll start to have lots of qualitative data on all these cities around the world.
The quantitative data (like how much does it cost) is then available on Nomad List.
There’ll be sites between those that can cover that gap hopefully.
There is already something called http://nomadwiki.org It’s very hippie, but I guess it is open for other contributions than dumpster diving and busking
Here’s a totally off the wall suggestion… What about a dating/socialising section/mini app? For those of us that are single nomads, it is actually quite difficult to find potential partners who can have the same lifestyle… I see some of the people here who are travelling as couples (and families) so it obviously works. I would hate to meet someone I like and them not being able to go nomading with me.
Also I’m plugging in more social features this week/month with user profiles on Nomad List. That’ll allow more socializing outside of this forum and the Slack group.
I would focus on content, links between contents, country details, visas, community, etc… Not in a never-ending cycle of adding new features that complicate the site-service. NOW, ITS VERY USEFULL.
The site has become mission critical for many. Don’t forget that big decisions are made from what we see here.
Having said that, I’m sometimes un-easy about the “data” and results.
I think you need to make it more clear where the numbers and data originate, as much of it is extremely subjective. Without that, you may lose credibility.
I love the idea of offline community building! Good on your for that! Working in foreign countries, the vast majority of us want more ways to meet each other. In Prague, 1993 I had to become the advertising manager of the English newspaper to really get connected!! That was over 20 years ago and still there are great locations where we can not get beyond meeting people that were born in bred there. Meeting “locals” should always be a big priority over foreigners, but we do need support from each other.
Nomad List is awesome, thank you for making it! It might be cool if there were virtual nomad check-in centers upon arrival in the top 3 or top 5 nomad cities (Chiang Mai, Prague, etc.), with a mission to hook up newcomers with a couple of buddies/mentors, a free week at a coworking space, possibly a mailing address (which would be amazing), and a list of helpful/non-scammy realtors, apartment complexes, etc.
Add a Toggle to switch between high and low temperatures.
People who have never been to the desert (and I don’t just mean Dubai — Las Vegas is the highest-rated Nomad city in the US and that’s absolutely a desert) may not realize they need separate day clothes and night clothes because of the the extreme difference in temperature.
One central place that answers the questions each of us has when moving on to a new place:
wifi
sim cards
housing
food
making friends
visas
ATMs
etc.
I’m looking for visa information on Chaing Mai, and even though there’s a lot of posts about this already, it’s not easy to find the information I want. Once I find it, I want to make it easy for the next person to find it too!
I think this can be done by creating City Experts, they cannot only be able to create these guides/wiki but they will also be available for consulting.
Questions and Problems like these can be easily solved by an expert for each city:
By the way, thanks for all the tips guys/girls. I read EVERYTHING. And I write EVERYTHING down. I’m obviously a bit busy with running the list, chat, forum and all my other projects but that helps me prioritize the most important features, avoiding feature creep.
After I’ve finished my 12 startups in April, the speed of dev for Nomad List will get faster. Hiring dev’s is impossible yet, because the good ones cost $10,000/m+, so I can only do it myself now. Which is okay. Any help in promoting this revolution though is welcome
@levelsio that’s cool, but we’re all willing to help, just for the sake of contributing and making this grow. About the exchange rate in Argentina, just a comment will be fine in Nomad List. I understand that the city guide for Buenos Aires is not a priority at the moment but when the time comes, I think there should be a chapter on how to manage when dealing with currency exchange in the city (either going to the black market or making a short trip to Uruguay to withdraw dollars from ATMs). If it helps, I’ll start gathering all of this information.
You should add some way to take into account current exchange rate, maybe a ranking of top devaluating currencies.
i.e. now it’s much cheaper to be in Japan with the devaluating Yen. Ukraine and Russia is also much much cheaper now. Would be great to be aware of this.
The exchange rate situation in Argentina, for instance, requires a special explanation, because we have two different exchange rates for the dollar, and it’s much more convenient to change your dollars or euros in the black market, you never get your dollars from a bank (you lose like 50% of the value), and you certainly can’t get dollars from an ATM here.
well in this case I think it’s extremely important, because in Nomad List, the exchange rate listed is the black market rate, but it should be clarified that you’ll never get that rate from a bank or an agency. For instance, you’ll get AR$13 for each dollar in the black market, but you’ll only get like AR$8,6 for each dollar in a bank. It’s important to know WHERE to go when changing money in the black market, because you can get scammed. So I figure there should be an explanation of the exchange rate situation, and then you can go on further detail on the city guide. I’d be glad to help out with this, gathering information about places in the black market where it’s safe and convenient to exchange money.
Pieter, there’s on question we are constantly asked in the Chiang Mai slack channel: “so I’m coming into town next week, where should I stay?”
There’s a clear and simple need there. We find ourselves repeating he same answers. No doubt this could and should be solved on nomad list
It doesn’t need anything complex like plugins to hotels.com etc. just a crowd sourced collection of ‘places to stay’ In this city with a simple vote function. That would help us easily work out where others like to stay when they visit this city. A map view might be useful, but that’s secondary requirement to the original problem.
Hi Pieter, great job with everything on here so far! I personally would love to see the main website expats use to sell items/ find apartments etc. for each city/country. Maybe users can quickly upvote or rate each one if they’ve used it in the past, or list an alternative one. Most people would assume its Craigslist, but in some cities that’s not the case. I live in Busan, South Korea for example and the most useful site is koreabridge.com. Having a mini database of these sites would definitely make this the ultimate tool IMO.
I already have a bit of that here: https://nomadlist.io/seoul-south-korea, it shows the best place to find Apartment for most cities. Should I expand on that?
Yup! That’s exactly the idea. It’d be useful to have the staple site (if Craigslist isn’t it) that expats and locals use to buy goods etc. for each city, to gauge prices or good neighborhoods.
I think what’s missing is the ability to have categorized lists of amenities for each city - like hotels, airbnbs, coffee shops, coworking spaces, etc. Let people comment on the amenities and vote them up/down. This would make rolling into a new city so much easier, it’d basically serve as a curated guidebook with comments. i.e. TripAdvisor but better
I was thinking about having a map in the detail view of one location (e.g. https://nomadlist.io/phuket-thailand) that shows the city on Google Maps, or just a button, which opens it on GMaps.
Also in the works. Any specific features you’d like except location, itinerary? Should messaging go through Twitter or internal?
Messaging external from teh Nomad.io ecosystem. Keep it free and easy for people to use with their own needs. Twitter, LinkedIn, Mail. Planned travels are great, but also past travels. That can say a lot about the person. Like a maps with points they lived, traveled and so.
Something like a city list but then you click the city and you see a list of coworking spaces? Ranked just like the cities are ranked?
Yes, exactly. I think this system could actually do the job for a lot of the feature requests here (and future ones too). It would be easy to add additional amenities like:
Tour Guides
Buy/Sell Websites
Currency Exchange
Telecom Service
Print Shops
Tourist Spots
Or more, the sky is the limit. But in particular, the core of Hotels / Coffee Shops / Coworking would be immensely useful. Especially if comments are allowed too.
I love the idea. I am from Colombia and I have been working and travelling in the US as Nomad (Houston, Austin, Cambridge/Boston). I currently live in Oslo after I came as a tourist and found a great community of entrepreneurs in Norway, but it seems I am the only nomad registered in nomadlist.io that is here. I could easily help people travelling to these cities since I have lived enough time to have friends that could guide Nomads in case they need local assistance for any emergency.
I just replied to “Where are the nomad hot spots in Central and South America?” recommending nomads to visit Colombia. But I would definitely like to help them more beyond that. Maybe recommending places and activities, as well as sharing the precautions they should have when travelling to CA/SA.
I think your original idea of doing guides for each city starting with the most popular ones like chang mai is a really good idea (don’t know if you did that, I couldn’t find) and will complement the purpose of the site I believe, you could do like the lonely planet online version but for digital nomads.
A guide with how to get everything set up once you arrive to a city (which sim to get, address of the coworking space, which district/area to stay to meet other digital nomads, if its worth to rent or buy a bike , etc , etc all laid out) as well as some things to do that might only interest digital nomads.
Maybe you could even crowd source such guides and let the people that helped you write them access to all the guides of other cities, for regular users you could sell the guides , with 200k visits per month I think you will sell a tone of guides too to maybe expand with further ideas (like in the future doing the digital nomad vending machines heard you said once haha ) .
Public profiles with a kickass design. So people can show the world where they are right now, location based on last tweet, foursquare, manual input. And a little help to communicate with taht person by offering a little help with the timezones.
A great profile page would be awesome. To show what we are currently working on (projects, startups and what not), where are we, and where we are heading next. This might increase the number of collaboration among nomads.
PS. If you want to add blog posts to certain locations, you can always give me a shout. You have Travelistly, at your disposal. It might not entirely be about nomad per se but a great source for inspiration for people who are interested. I can get all blog posts by cities or countries, very easily.
To show what we are currently working on (projects, startups and what not), where are we, and where we are heading next. This might increase the number of collaboration among nomads.
Help me become a nomad. I’d happily pay a couple grand to become one. I think there’s potential for you in targeting the masses of people who are not yet nomads but are interested.
It would be nice to have an embedded video (like those you can find on Vimeo) presenting the city whenever we click on a listed one. It could help get a “feeling” of the city.
Maybe if profiles had a list of “cities you’ve visited” or if there were designated “experts” for certain cities. Right now the emphasis (on slack) seems to be on who’s there now, but the most knowledgeable people about a given city might not be there at the current moment and they might miss the discussion if they’re not following closely.
Let’s say I’m most knowledgeable about Tokyo, Ubud, and Austin. I could opt-in to be notified when somebody has a question related to those cities. Or if I’m trying to decide between two places, say Boracay and Ko Lanta, it would be cool if I could find people that have been to both.
link each location on the site to the relevant slack channel and forum tag(s)
add coastal/inland info (some people insist on beaches)
obtain metrics to offer the user a choice between budget and flashpackers. Some countries have a huge difference in costs from living like a local to living with western standards.
allow bloggers to submit posts relating to certain locations
use your email list and get that newsletter going
link to wikipedia’s various articles regarding the visa rules for that country
check-ins pulled from facebook/twitter/foursquare last-seen geo data
companion site to allow users to submit their fave nomad-friendly accommodation locations - we all know that this is a popular request as well as a huge logistical nightmare but if it is crowdsourced and dumbed down, the affiliate revenue itself would be worth the hassle.
Not to sound too self-serving, but I’m the co-founder of TypeEngine, which is a service designed for web developers/designers to make native iOS and Android subscription apps. I could easily see a companion NomadList digital magazine app.
I’m not sure if this is way too ambitious, but I’d love to see a Nomad List app similar to TrailWallet, to keep track of your income and expenses, but with the option to anonimously link the app to the site, to have more data collection in real time, and so that visitors could get a chance to see a single person’s cost breakdown (with daily, monthly, yearly statistics). That way you could see more easily how much is the cost of living for different types of nomads (a party animal, a lebowski, a hermit who never goes out…).
Also, I second @DanielGenser 's suggestion about blog articles. Each city could have a section with a weekly or monthly blog article about a nomad’s experience while living there (specifically written for NomadList). I’m not a nomad yet but I’d be more than happy to contribute with an article once I’m on the road and I’m sure there’s lots of nomads out there willing to do the same just to help us begginers!
Could easily turn this into an awesome place to learn more about things to do / see in certain areas. Information on places to stay, gear reviews, reviews in general.
I think expanding on the information given for each city would be a good start. Cost of living is very subjective, and no one lives in exactly similar ways. The more perspectives and stories that can be read that can qualify the data you present on each city, the richer and more meaningful the data can be.
For instance, links out to stories, blog articles, and such about people’s experience in each city. Helping people understand how a place feels.
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I'm thinking to head over to France during the winter and I'm looking for recommendations on a good French town that has beach and is warm enough during the winter.
What are your favourites? Any recommendation is appreciated.
I would love to get your feedback regarding the best insurance for digital nomads. i'm traveling around Asia since 1 year and for next 4 or 5 years. Would love to buy an insurance to cover especially :
Hello, we are US citizens that have been able to stay in Italy past our standard visa stay due to covid. Now we must leave. We want to drive to Croatia as our “out of EU” stay. But I’m now wondering what considerations I need to take care of for my visa. I won’t go through an airport and get my passport stamped. But I assume I need to get my passport stamped as a way to prove I’m out of the EU.
Anyone else travel in and out of Schengen zone via car? Or know what I should do to properly handle the visa situation? I get unclear answers online. Hmm.
We must all get sick of the same backpacker travel questions when we meet new friends, I know I do.
You know the ones - where are you from, where’ve you been, where are you going, what do you do, how long have you been doing it - etc.
The novelty of answering these questions wears off after maybe a week, but they’re nonetheless insightful and no matter how much we hate them, we find ourselves asking others.
So let’s bring the dreaded backpacker questionnaire to NomadForum and introduce ourselves shall we?
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what’s your name?
where are you from?
how long have you been away from home?
what do you do?
where are you currently?
where are you going?
what has been memorable for you so far?
will you go home anytime soon?
what have you learnt during your time as a nomad?
[insert your own question here]
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No need to answer them all if you don’t want to But the more you share… The merrier!
We are in Umbria until August 31. We've been here since March, but crisis-level visa extensions are over. After that we have to leave the EU. We would like to stay out of the USA (our home) due to it's covid crisis, at the same time we want to be responsible about travel. Ideally we would not travel at all, rather stay hidden in the countryside of Umbria forever until covid is more under control globally, but here we are!
So we must leave the Schengen zone. We should avoid USA. We should avoid long air travel.
We were thinking Croatia.
Do you recommend a route to Croatia? We are open to long train rides. Ideally not long ferry rides. Is there a ferry route under 4 hours? I read about it...I don't see it. If not, the other option is to make our way north and up over to Croatia via train.
I’m looking for any recommendations for services or people others have used to get answers on the best place to set up their businesses based on their personal circumstances.
Leaning towards Singapore after a ton of research, but would really like some concrete advice before jumping in.
I’m curious whether anyone drove to Mexico instead of flying and used their car down there. I’ve heard bad stories of people driving down there but not sure I believe them. How safe is it to drive through rural areas, and to park in cities? It would be cool to have the car to explore while there.
I’m curious to know how many people learned some Thai before going there. Learning languages is a hobby of mine but I’m very put off by how complex the writing system is, and if I decide not to learn it I’ll probably cross Chiang Mai off my bucket list. I prefer to be at least conversational in a language before I do an extended stay in a country. I’m curious how people who learned no Thai did getting by. And I’m curious, from people who did learn some, if it’s any easier than it seems? Thanks!
Eager to find out what age most start out as a DN? (Me)… 27 and just started out in the last 6 months or so. Not presently 100% location independent, probably more like 90% as still required to visit the office from time to time
Any suggestions for seamlessly receiving SMS Verifications from US financial institutions and other sites while traveling internationally continuously? Won’t keep my US Verizon account due to cost and currently plan to use local sims at each destination (T-Mobile and Project Fi are NOT an option as they terminate for continuous roaming). In summation, I won’t have a US mobile account.
Unless I’m missing something, which is very possible, this appears to be the single most complex issue I’ve encountered in my preparations, and one that no one addresses. I would greatly appreciate any possible solution that works 100% of the time. Can’t afford surprises in this regard. Many Thanks! Jack.
We are hoping to travel later this year and we will be working remotely - how do you ensure you get good WiFi in places such as in India where the signal isn't always great? Do you have any tips on where to go/ what equipment you have to get?
We are hoping to become nomads soon and have booked an AirBnB in September in Goa for our first destination. We are considering what would be the best option for accommodation after that. We are trying to decide between co-living spaces, hostels, or Airbnbs.
What are your experiences of accommodation in terms of the following: reliable wifi, social aspect, pricing, cleanliness, cooking facilities?
We are going travelling but we won't know anyone out there, what's your best advice for meeting people and socialising abroad? We've thought about the obvious things like Meetup etc, is there anything else you can suggest from your experience?
We're looking for a country in South East Asia that can function as our base, mainly for tax purposes. Meaning it will have to be a place where we can stay for the 183 days required without too much hassle.
We've been looking at Thailand, but have heard that it's very hard to do visa runs etc., so what other can you recommend? Indonesia looked like a good option, but the income rate is a flat 20% and very high for the region.
I'm thinking about taking a sailing (yachting) course in the Mediterranean Sea this coming September or October. Thus far from my research, it seems that most courses are held in locations with not many digital nomads. My thinking is that it would be more fun to go to a place with like-minded people. Therefore, I'm wondering if anyone else is interested in taking a sailing course in the Mediterranean this fall? If not, do you know a location that offers good sailing courses, where there is also many digital nomads / nomad infrastructure?
I am going to move to Lisbon in July and I was wondering where you guys work from? Do you have any recommendations for working on a budget? Any good cafès or cheap coworking spaces?
I did some research and found some coworking spaces for > ~ 100€ p. month which is pretty reasonable but too much for me right now.
Looking for blogs by individuals who document their progress/business in South East Asia - ideally Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos - but also Thailand/Myanmar too.
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