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What does your ideal nomad live/work space look like?


by @rand0mn0mad | 6yr  | 10 comments

So, long story short, weโ€™re going to be building a place from scratch near a beach in the southeast atlantic coast of the US and we expect to have lots of fellow techie and entrepreneur guests, so weโ€™re gathering their suggestions and designing for them, to start with. However, thatโ€™s only a few dozen opinions. Since we would like to expand the circle and host host other digital nomads, individually or in small groupsโ€ฆ your opinions would be fantastic to have as well. Be assured that they will be a part of the โ€œwish listโ€ that goes to the architects.

So if you were building a space from scratch can you tell us these sorts of things:

  • How would you describe your ideal nomad setup?
  • What features have you absolutely loved in the past?
  • What have you disliked or even hated in other โ€œnomad padsโ€ in your travels?
  • What are your deal breakers for โ€œwould never stay thereโ€?
  • What are your โ€œnice to havesโ€?
  • How should it be set up to accommodate both individuals and
    groups?
  • If โ€œfeaturesโ€ were to be built over time, what would you
    want to see built first? (i.e. would it kill anyone if surfboard
    storage racks were not built the first year? or whateverโ€ฆ)
  • Do you prefer shared rooms or individual rooms or a mix?
  • If shared, are there ways to make that more comfortable? Such as โ€œpartial wallsโ€ or screens? Or do you not care at all?
  • Is there anything that would โ€œblow your mindโ€ or really make your
    stay greatโ€ฆ whatโ€™s on your โ€œwish listโ€? (ok, within reason,
    thereโ€™s a sensible budget, lol)
  • Do eco features matter to you? Would you enjoy your stay more if you knew your power was solar?
  • Are there any โ€œhouse rulesโ€ that are โ€œmust havesโ€ for you? Is there any way we can build things to specifically help/encourage adherence to those? (e.g. โ€œthere was always a battle for outlets so do thisโ€ฆโ€ โ€œhereโ€™s a picture of X place I stayed, they put the damn hotub right next to my room, it sucked, move it 30 feet away please!โ€)
  • Anything weโ€™ve missed?

Please be as specific as you wish, since we wonโ€™t be retrofitting an existing spaceโ€ฆ weโ€™ve got the freedom to make it as close to โ€œidealโ€ as budget and time allow.

Your suggestions will matter, a lot. :slight_smile:

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@miles | 5yr

New here, I like your idea and even though Iโ€™m a few months late to this thread, I figured I throw out some ideasโ€ฆ

How would you describe your ideal nomad setup? - Separate master bed and full bath patio with table and desk. Suite would be carpeted with walk in closet that was quiet enough to record audio in, even when others are in the house.

What features have you absolutely loved in the past? Daily maid service who does everything from dishes to laundry and all cleaningโ€ฆ I stay focused on working and the space stays conducive to working! Also, a nice space to record audio/videoโ€ฆ Carpeted walk in closets have worked wonders for recording audio tracks for video sales letters and info-products in the past. A recording studio with lighting and a green screen would be quite cool.

What have you disliked or even hated in other โ€œnomad padsโ€ in your travels? Poorly thought out workspaces. Usually Iโ€™m moving beds out and tables in to create officesโ€ฆ Then stacking nightstands on the tables when I want to stand and workโ€ฆ lol.

What are your deal breakers for โ€œwould never stay thereโ€? Not having a private suite and full bathroom to ourselvesโ€ฆ Wife and I work/travel together, so privacy is very important.

What are your โ€œnice to havesโ€? A cook who can shop and make a couple meals per dayโ€ฆ Fun outdoor activities and nature time nearbyโ€ฆ A lake/ocean to SUP with SUPs on hand, surf break, hiking trails, walking distance to coffee shop / restaurant.

How should it be set up to accommodate both individuals and groups? Wings with suites and a center area to gather around the kitchen/living area/patioโ€ฆ

If โ€œfeaturesโ€ were to be built over time, what would you want to see built first? Comfortable quiet space, comfortable work space, and local staff for cleaning/cooking.

Is there anything that would โ€œblow your mindโ€ or really make your stay greatโ€ฆ whatโ€™s on your โ€œwish listโ€? - Sandy bottom surf break with consistent waves, no crowds and plenty of peaks for everyone to ride! โ€ฆlol. Still searching for this one, myself!

Do eco features matter to you? Would you enjoy your stay more if you knew your power was solar? - Yes, but I think eco friendly flooring, furniture, bamboo sheets/bedding/towels would be even better.

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@kmander | 6yr

Strike the right balance between making it an open office that efficiently uses space and fosters community, and giving people some distraction-free space. I feel 90% of coworking spaces fail miserably at this.

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@cee | 6yr

I forgot that it needs a printer (fairly obvious).
So many travel documents, gov docs, etc still need to be printed out and trying to do that while wandering is - interesting. Iโ€™ve been forced to buy a cheap printer in more than one locationโ€ฆ

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@cee | 6yr

It should provide a way to make decent coffee, decent wifi and wired ethernet, a space with a locking door, and somewhere comfortable to sit in front of a laptop that isnโ€™t going to alert the local chiropractor of my presence.
โ€ฆ among other things.

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@rand0mn0mad | 6yr

No chiropractor alerting โ€“ Got it! :slight_smile: Weโ€™re fans of comfortable chairs too.
Thank you

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@levelsio | 6yr

Priority for me would be super fast and super stable internet. That means consistent 10ms ping to Google, 300ms ping to the other side of the world (e.g. max light speed), 500-1000 mbps download and 100-200 mbps upload (e.g. future proof gigabit connections straight into a backbone). Those look like crazy numbers but theyโ€™re not. If I want to upload 100GB on a 200mbps connection, that will still take me 1 hour. Thereโ€™s plenty of people with over 100GB of media assets to work with (e.g. 3d animators, video people).

To give an example, Iโ€™m flying to Korea this February to upload 3 TB of data (my backups). Thereโ€™s hardly any other places in the world where that is possible. Itโ€™s still gonna take a week.

All seating and desks should be highly ergonomic (e.g. something like Aeron chairs) and also lots of standing desks.

There should be an in-house healthy food cafeteria (like http://hubud.org) has.

Iโ€™d want different packages from shared to individual to luxury rooms. If shared, Iโ€™d look at capsule hotels in Tokyo as an example. They are tiny but private.

House rules should be silent rooms for working, and common sense whispering in the rest of the space (like http://hubbathailand.com).

I think eco does matter for more and more people in the future, again see what http://hubud.org has done for that (hint: their space is made out of bamboo).

I think you can cater to low-cost nomads, up to middle class devโ€™s, up to devโ€™s who want to use your space kind of as a retreat some time of the year and are willing to pay more.

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Not to be a nitpicker, but uploading 1 GB over 200 MBit takes about 1 minute not several hours.
Most people dont upload/download constantly. We have a 100 MBit connection in Salzburg for about 40 coworkers. The connection is never saturated and mostly idling, even though people use it a lot.

So yes, fast internet is the basis of any good coworking space, but letโ€™s stay with whatโ€™s actually available at reasonable rates in the specific location.

To build a brand new location, I would suggest to start with building the community before building the actual location. Try to get real commitments (=money) from people, not only ideas. In my experience lots of people have ideas about how to build the perfect space, but only few of them are actually going to help you pay the rent. Find those first, then build the space around their requirements.

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@levelsio | 6yr

The reason most remote workers are developers and designers and not visual effects, video, film, post-production is literally that speeds are not fast enough. If you want to be future proof, you make sure that speed is there.

[quote=โ€œMatthiasEZeitler, post:3, topic:789โ€]
To build a brand new location, I would suggest to start with building the community before building the actual location.[/quote]

Yes, definitely. Build it and they will come doesnโ€™t work anymore.

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@rand0mn0mad | 6yr

Thank you. Much appreciated.

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@rand0mn0mad | 6yr

Great links. Were considering some sort of capsule hotel idea for part of it. So glad to see that.

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Hello digital nomad!

I dream of being an independent digital nomad. But it feels very elusive & unattainable with my success rate. In full disclosure, whilst I have dreamed about making money online since high school; I have not earned a single cent making money online. $0, nada, zilch!! On the contrary, I have spent a lot of time & money on books, podcasts. Even though I have spent a lot of time reading/listening to others, I do not have anything to show for it!

I have made attempts in the past to start an online business, but these fizzle out quite quickly when I do not see traction especially when the goal I have set myself is too high.

Instead of reaching for the ultimate nomadic lifestyle goal, I want to start much smaller. Really small! I am simply looking to make $50 profit per month from a new online business. Thatโ€™s it.

I need some advice from you please!

  • Is $50 profit too low? How long did it take you to earn $50 profit per month?

  • What is a good way of achieving this goal?

Thanks
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aka the $0 online business entrepreneur

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in Osaka, Japan by @freddychanut | 5mo 5 months ago | 1 comment

Will be in Osaka this April/May and was curious to discover interesting groups/events.
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by @rodriigovieira | 5mo 5 months ago | 19 comments

Hello everyone! Iโ€™m new here and probably this is a very newbie question, but it doesnโ€™t leave my head.

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Or do you return to your โ€œoriginal countryโ€ and then pay them?

By the way, this forum has very nice cool formatting features! :smile:

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by @martinratinaud | 6mo 5 months ago | 4 comments

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in Portugal by @jasraj | 6mo 5 months ago | 6 comments

Hey everyone,

Iโ€™m a freelance + nomad newbie, off for my 1st proper trip in May. Iโ€™m wanting to spend a month somewhere and go from there.

I just came back from Slovenia/Ljubljana and loved it there (just a week). I donโ€™t mind โ€œsleepierโ€ places par-say, as long as theyโ€™re close to a beach or nature of some kind. In fact, I kinda like places less-busy and a bit smaller/cosier.

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by @rose_davis | 7mo 7 months ago | 7 comments

Hi!

I am planning to move to Latin America for 3-4 months (Oct-January). Iโ€™ve narrowed down 6 different places that I want to visit before committing to settling down, but Iโ€™d love to get some community input.

Here are the cities Iโ€™m considering:

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  • Medellin, Columbia
  • Cartagena, Columbia
  • Antigua, Guatemala
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Thanks!
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by @levelsio | 8mo 7 months ago | 61 comments

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in India by @ankitdas123 | 9mo 9 months ago | 56 comments

I have seen a lot of posts from different people across the world, but not even a single post from someone in India, who has been a nomad, either living within the country or traveling to another one.

Would definitely love to hear stories from such people. We are a couple traveling as social nomads who are trying to bridge the gap between the rural and urban societies in India. We have started out very humble and do not have much resources, so looking out for help from the community.

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Around Love and Life

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by @gaelm | 9mo 9 months ago | 15 comments

Hi all, I was looking for a cool spot in Southern Europe for winter and Iโ€™m considering Sicilyโ€ฆ Have you ever been there? If yes, how was your experience? If not, why?
thanks!

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in Bari, Italy by @mitch_dina | 9mo 9 months ago | 7 comments

Greetings!
Does anyone have experience in Bari, Italy please? We are thinking of going from Dubrovnik, Croatia to Bari by boat in mid-March. Has anyone taken a boat across? Is it nice or can it be choppy? (We are trying to avoid planes, to reduce our carbon footprint, so adding more surface travel.) Also, any info you might be able to offer about Bari and the surrounds? Next step will likely be trains up Italy as the Spring progresses.

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How is Mauritius for digital nomads?


in Mauritius by @wakkos | 10mo 10 months ago | 14 comments

Hello all,

Iโ€™m planning on spending a couple of month in Mauritius Island and even when Iโ€™ve been there for a week, never rented or worked there.

Does anyone here has tips or experience to share about Mauritius?

Cheers!

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