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What's better? Puerto Vallarta vs. Playa del Carmen in Mexico?


in Puerto Vallarta , Mexico by @oskar 8yr  | 12 comments

Iโ€™m going to travel to Mexico by the end of february and i would like to know which place do you recommend to stay at for a month or so. Which one would fit better for a digital nomad? Pros and Cons for each place are welcomed :smile:

thanks!

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FYI, weโ€™ve got a coworking space in Sayulita now with fiber internet sayulitacowork.com

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@oskar 8yr

Thatโ€™s nice but i was referring more to options to stay in. I have heard that sayulita is pretty small so there are not to many options for housingโ€ฆ
thanks for the tip though :smile:

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Thatโ€™s good to know because I had a terrible time with internet speed when I was there.

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@oskar 8yr

I have heard of sayulita but i have decided to go to playa del carmen this time. I need more โ€œinfrastructureโ€ this time :smile:. Maybe i can travel from cancun to PVโ€ฆ

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@miles 8yr

Dia De Los Muertos was nice thereโ€ฆ The stage in the plaza, the school kids doing their performancesโ€ฆ But it wasnโ€™t that โ€˜differentโ€™ if you will.

With that said, late Oct and early Nov is indeed a great time to be thereโ€ฆ Before the snow birds show up.

Honestly, Dรญa de la Virgen de Guadalupe festival was truly beautiful and very different compared to anything I was used toโ€ฆ

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@miles 8yr

All depends on what you are looking forโ€ฆ But that has been said.

I was outside of PV for most of 2014 in a sweet pueblo named Sayulita. About a 45 min drive from the PV airport and it is a little surf town of maybe 5,000 people.

Great restaurants, great people, super-sweet place. Can be tough finding a place since it is so small, but they are around.

I showed up the week before Semana Santa and LOVED IT! Ya, the town explodes, the beach and restaurants get crowded, the locals are BORRACHO but WTFโ€ฆ not my culture, not my tradition, definitely not my place to judge.

It was beautifulโ€ฆ Confusing for holy week, for sureโ€ฆ But thatโ€™s how they roll and I am a guest in their country. And Iโ€™m happy to be in MX this year for Semana Santa again. Cultura Fuerte!

Iโ€™m heading to PDC in a few weeks myself to check out that part of the countryโ€ฆ Mexico is SOOOOOO diverseโ€ฆ I love it. There seems to be so many places to explore, some cheap, some expensive, some well known, some not known, some big, some smallโ€ฆ And they give long duration visas! :wink:

Vaya con dios, amigo!

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Yeah, Sayulitaโ€ฆa magical place, I almost didnโ€™t leaveโ€ฆglad I wasnโ€™t there for Semana Santa thoughโ€ฆtheir independence day was crazy enough for me! IMHO, the best time to stay is during Dia de Muertosโ€ฆthe Day of the Dead festival.

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@rudiments 8yr

Iโ€™ve been cycle touring around Mexico for about nine months and visited 13 states and the Federal District. I just got back from Quintana Roo and did not like it at all. The entire coast is very built up and extremely touristy. Everything is insanely expensive by Mexican standards and compared to every place Iโ€™ve been, the locals were much less friendly and more scammy. Even Tulum, which is much more local and chilled out is overflowing with gringo backpackers. The one benefit I found was being able to get great food you canโ€™t find in much of Mexico (I love Mexican food, but itโ€™s nice to have some variety). We ate bomb-ass Thai food in Tulum. Most of the beaches (supposed to be public in Mexico) have been closed off by giant resorts. We camped on one of the few remaining โ€œlocalsโ€ beaches and that was still very overpriced and filled with tourists. I donโ€™t want to get down on QR too much because I know a lot of people live there are adore the place. There is a lot of beauty and Iโ€™m sure if you have your life set up there, itโ€™s a great place. I just found it to be the least authentic and most expensive place Iโ€™ve been in Mexico by far. Itโ€™s just not my bag.

PV is also touristy, as are some of the spots around it, but there are tons of great places to get away from it all there. I found the locals to be much friendlier and I didnโ€™t feel like I was constantly being pushed into the gringo holes. Another big sell for me is the amazing topography of the area. If youโ€™re into hiking at all, PV is the way to go. The Yucatan Peninsula is mostly completely flat whereas you will be hard pressed to find much more than a village-worth of flat land around PV. The mountains plunge right into the sea.

One benefit of Playa del Carmen is that you are near the Cancun airport, which can take you all over the world at some of the best prices and is one of the few hubs south of the USA from which you can get direct flights to much of the Caribbean. PV is definitely a secondary or even tertiary international airport. Youโ€™ll also very close to Belize if you decide to stay much longer than intended and need to do a visa run, or just want to swing by another country.

PV has sunsets, Playa has sunrises.

PV has big waves and great surfing around, Playa has bathtub beaches and good snorkeling in the area.

Playa has cenotes and crazy ruins, PV has the mountains I was talking about.

BTW, try to avoid showing up on the beach around Semana Santa (the week of Easter). Thatโ€™s when just about every Mexican heads to the beach to get hammered. Itโ€™s like the US spring break, but for the whole family. You will NOT be able to find a place to stay without paying through the nose and anywhere on the coast will be extremely packed and crazy noisy. If you luck out and get a rental that includes that week, head inland and AirBnB that shit for a handsome profit. Actually, Semana Santa is a week or two before or after the US spring break, so that whole month should be avoided, especially if you choose Playa.

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Sounds like you want to do the beach, but for anyone else looking for a different experience in Mexico, the south-central region of the country is amazing. San Cristรณbal de las Casas is one of my favorite cities in that part of the world. Itโ€™s in the mountains (7,000 ft/2100 m elevation), mild days and cools nights, near beautiful natural scenery (waterfalls, canyons, mountains, etc.), incredibly cheap, clean, safe, amazing food โ€” I loved it. Going back there this year sometime.

Oaxaca is also a fan favorite and just a bit north.

Have fun wherever you wind up!

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Hey! Iโ€™ll be heading to Oaxaca and San Cristobal this November. Any tips, recommendation ect โ€ฆ Super stoked on heading to this part of Mexico, IMO playa is overrated.

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@nataniel 8yr

hello oskar. I own a coworking space in Playa del Carmen Mexico. I would be more than happy to help you out during your trip. If you happen to come to PDC I could show you around and point you to the right direction.

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@hjbarraza 8yr

Playa del Carmen is a bit more active and touristy than puerto vallarta, but way calmer than Cancun.

I think it might depend on what you are looking for.
You will find more expats and tourists in Playa (and everything that comes with that).
So if you want a bit of tranquility, Perhaps Puerto Vallarta might be a good option.

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Holร  ! What's the internet / wifi situation in Sayulita ?


in Puerto Escondido , Mexico by @ambroisedebret 3yr 3 years ago  | 0 comments

After being told it's unworkable in Puerto Escondido, looking for alternatives :)

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Anyone want to share an airbnb villa in Mexico?


in Mexico by @wouternomad 4yr 4 years ago  | 3 comments

I will be traveling/working through Mexico with my dog February to April. My plan is to stay in Sayulita for about 2-4 weeks, then travel south along the cost.

Is there anyone who wants to share an airbnb apartment? I was thinking of renting a private villa, but because these are large and have multiple rooms, I was wondering if there are fellow nomads wanting to share? Iโ€™m open to other locations as well (Puerto Vallerta, Oaxaca, and everything in between these two locations.

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What's the best thing to do with your phone/ your phone number when travelling?


in Poland by @davda1546 4yr 4 years ago  | 6 comments

Hey, hope everyone is well!

We're leaving in a month to go travelling. Our first destination is still to be confirmed, but will likely be Poland or Slovakia. We will be moving around every month or two to different destinations.

The question we have is: what do people do with phones/ phone numbers when hopping from country to country? Ideally we'd just like one number for the whole trip (even better, the number we already have) wherever we go, rather than getting new SIMs with different numbers.

This is just so it's easier to keep in contact with family/ clients/ etc.

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What's the best SIM card you can get for traveling to Spain?


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Central America - Where and what's next?


by @as11 4yr 4 years ago  | 11 comments

Currently in Playa Del Carmen, Mexico and heading to Santa Teressa, Costa Rica next week.
Then Aruba in the Caribbean Sea for Christmas and New Year.

However I feel I want to head back to Central America to bring living costs down, rather than staying in the Caribbean Sea among the expensive Islands.

This means I have around 2 - 2,5 month of unplanned travelling.
Any digital nomads who have ideas about where to head in that timeframe?

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What's the first step now that I can work remotely?


by @mariaplslourdes 5yr 5 years ago  | 4 comments

Hi everyone and nice to e-meet you!
finally, after so long I found a job that allows me to work remotely.
But now? Do you have any practical advice that I can use to approach this new world?
In particular, I have to put my tax situation in order, do you know a good tax advisor from whom I can ask for advice? (Iโ€™m Italian but I live in Franceโ€ฆI donโ€™t know how long it will beโ€ฆ) )
Beyond that, any advice is welcome.
Thank you!
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Cost to live frugally in Puerto Vallarta?


in Puerto Vallarta , Mexico by @jerryblackwell 5yr 5 years ago  | 1 comment

Looking for a basic budget for a frugal lifestyle in Puerto Vallarta. Eating mostly at home. Decent internet, housing with basics.

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What's the best warm destinations in Europe in the winter?

 

by @jammingsloth 5yr 5 years ago  | 33 comments

Planning ahead for the winter. Iโ€™ll be in Spain in the Fall and want to go someplace warm for the winter in or near Europe, but not Schengen. Was first thinking Cape Town, but the internet is slow and it is very far. Was also thinking:
Israel - but airbnb listings are very pricey.
Morocco?
Turkey - maybe a little chilly.

Any other suggestions?

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What's the best bank account for a global nomad?

 

by @barrybjjoubert 5yr 5 years ago  | 25 comments

Dear all
As a wanna be nomad figuring out a way to get free of the rat race, I was wondering what is the best bank account to have while travelling the globe? I need an account where is easy for me to receive payments from all over the world and it also need to be a bank that I can find almost anywhere in the world. I want to avoid carry cash on me if itโ€™s possible.

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What's the best CRM/system for managing remote work opportunities?


by @panoramica 5yr 5 years ago  | 3 comments

Iโ€™m currently doing some work through Upwork, but itโ€™s sporadic and Iโ€™m keen to get more active on other platforms like Freelancer, Toptal, CodeMentor, Fiverr etc

Currently Iโ€™m managing leads in a Google sheet. Basically itโ€™s just a list of projects I pitched for, how much I bid, what I did differently from the last pitch/bid, how much time went by before I got a offered a job etc.

Iโ€™m not actively following up anybody, and Iโ€™ve in fact โ€˜lostโ€™ a few jobs where the client was keen, but then disappeared without a trace. I guess I need to keep in touch with those people to ensure that they remain focussed on our agreementโ€ฆ

Iโ€™m also keen to take on more small projects concurrently, without dropping the ball on any of them.

Iโ€™ve done a quick Google and turned up a few names including Salesforce, Zoho, Nutshell, HighRise, Base, Nimble, etc etc. But testing out all these products isnโ€™t all that appealing, so I thought Iโ€™d ask here first :slight_smile:

Ideally Iโ€™d like something that integrates with remote job boards in some way.

Feature list

Iโ€™ve done some research and currently have this feature list:

Proposal building & tracking

  • Compile proposals from snippets - technologies, past projects
  • Quickly pull together a realistic/client friendly quote
  • Test and measure different approaches
  • Beat proposal deadlines while maintaining quality
  • Fine tune pitch material to bid more quickly and win more work โ€“ templates
  • Store history about past projects involving common needs and technological solutions
  • Learn which proposal content is working, and which is not

Lead generation and client management (CRM)

  • store info about regular clients
  • track remote projects which Iโ€™ve pitched for
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  • track projects across multiple remote platforms โ€“ API integration / message alert/response

Project Management & Scheduling

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  • Gantt chart to visualise overlapping jobs
  • Calendar to schedule daily work, deadlines, R&D
  • follow up, plan and schedule future work now, rather than once current work has dried up
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Marketing

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What's the best place to incorporate an online business?

 

by @octave 5yr 5 years ago  | 63 comments

I have an commerce website. We get around 1000 orders per month and this is going to get quite a bit bigger in next few years.

I am British. I live in Thailand.
Im not allowed to majority own a Thai business and small foreign entrepreneurs are not really welcome. So i need an offshore company.

I need PayPal and an ecommerce internet merchant account. Also looking at alternatives like worldpay. 2checkout etc

Does PayPal need me to be a resident to the country i register my account to? Are there complications being a non resident to get other payment solutions?

Apparently in Hong Kong you need 2 years trading history to get an Internet Mechant Account and they generally turn their noses up at those with less than $1m(us) a year turn over. Singapore seems a bit easier.

I really want to avoid paperwork and book keeping. I hate it.

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Most nomads i see donโ€™t really have a high volume of small monthly transactions which i do. Im going around in circles and donโ€™t know where to start.

Ill also need a bank account for business and a personal bank account to pay my salary into

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Hi All! Iโ€™ve heard Spark and Vodafone are the best. I plan to move around, so I care mostly about having good coverage, and all Iโ€™ll need is around 1 GB of data or so.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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What are the best coworking spaces in Playa del Carmen, Mexico?


in Playa del Carmen , Mexico by @simone_scarduzio 5yr 5 years ago  | 1 comment

Would you recommend โ€œWork Zoneโ€ http://www.oficinasplaya.com over Nest?
Do you have other coworking spaces there you would recommend?

And where is a good place to stay (i.e. coliving)?

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Restaurants in San Jaun, Puerto Rico


in Puerto Rico by @joefromboston 5yr 5 years ago  | 0 comments

I will be in San Juan, Puerto Rico next week. Any suggestions for great places to eat local foods, fish, etc. in Old San Juan?

Happy to get suggestions for activities, beaches - whatever!

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What's the best bank for South African digital nomads?


in South Africa by @kirst85 6yr 6 years ago  | 12 comments

Iโ€™m a South African about to become a Nomad next year. I will still be employed by a South African company and receive a salary into my FNB bank account monthly.

I will be mostly based in Serbia but plan on travelling a lot. Does anyone have any advice on the best bank account to have? Is there a way to not get charged a small fortune in ATM charges and avoid getting my account frozen for using it in lots of countries?

Iโ€™m unsure of the best way to handle things. Should I try get another bank account outside of SA (Can I even do that)? I also have a British Passport if that makes a difference.

If any of you have any experienced advice I would be very grateful, Thanks in advance!

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Best coworking space in Medellin?


in Medellรญn , Colombia by @adele 6yr 6 years ago  | 6 comments

Hi there,

Iโ€™m considering a month or two in Medellin and wondered what the co-working space options are like. I want something more than a cafe, so happy to pay the going rate. I spent a couple of months at Hubud in Bali earlier this year and loved it, but realise that Iโ€™ve set the bar pretty high.

Has anyone used Epicenter? I read somewhere it is pretty busy. Any other options?

Suggestions much appreciated.

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What's a good US call and SMS forwarding service?


by @vong 6yr 6 years ago  | 12 comments

Hi all,

What do you guys use for call and sms forwarding?

Currently I have a Skype US number that forwards to my local phone number. However, it canโ€™t receive SMSโ€™es so thatโ€™s a huge dealbreaker.

Thereโ€™s RingCentral - but that starts at $29/month which is rather pricey.

Any suggestions? Iโ€™d just like to be able to call and text like Iโ€™m still in the US (when Iโ€™m not). Thanks in advance!

Sarah

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What is the minimum delay before the flight to Chiang mai from France?


in France by @stephenzambaux 6yr 6 years ago  | 0 comments

Hi, I live in France and I planned to travel to Chiang Mai in the 01/24.
We are in December, do you think there is enough time to vaccination, visa?

Can I take a touristic visa from 01/24 to 04/22? Do I need to bight round trip flight ticket to get it?

Thank you

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Mexico City, Medellin or Buenos Aires?


in Buenos Aires , Argentina by @rayhanv 6yr 6 years ago  | 7 comments

So Iโ€™m taking the plunge and will be going nomad in less than 3 months from now!

My situation is that I just started a semi-remote contract with a startup that has a good chance to go fully remote in 3 months time if all goes well.
I will be heading over to Chang Mai at some point, but have decided to do a month or two in South America first, just so that the time difference isnโ€™t so crazy while dealing with the team back home (skype/ hangout meetings in the morning etc)

The current cities on my radar are Mexico City, Medellin and Buenos Ares.
Basically, I am looking for a place that is has a relatively low cost of living, is safe for expats, has good internet and doesnโ€™t have too much of a language barrier.

If anyone has lived in any of those cities ( or other nomad friendly spots in SA/CA), would love to get your thoughts on which place would be ideal for a 1-2 month stay based on my situation.
Thanks!

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What's a good and warm place in April to surf with fast internet?


by @jakegibson 7yr 7 years ago  | 9 comments

I landed a remote job that is fully remote with only one team skype meeting a week. Iโ€™m looking to leave around March 13th and stay 1 - 3 months in each place. The first place I want somewhere that is warm with good surf. For the group video chat I need at least 5/2 down/up reliable internet. Any recommendations for a place that meets that end of March - April?

Iโ€™ve read through the forums / nomads list. Iโ€™ve already done Costa Rica and Indo and would like to try somewhere new. Currently looking at Sayuliata Mexico, Canary Islands, and Morocco though I think Iโ€™ll wait on the second two since they sound like they are better in the fall.

Thanks!

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