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Where should I buy a MacBook in South America?


by @pfaff90 9yr  | 14 comments

Dear SA-experienced nomads

my MB Air got stolen in Sucre, Bolivia. It sucks working on slow PCs in dark internet caves with 10 year old gamers around. And there is no chance to get a good laptop in Sucre.

Next stop would be Buenos Aires, but Argentina seems really expensive to buy Apple Products. On the way to Buenos Aires I could cross Chile (Santiago or Calama), Paraguay (Asuncion), Uruguay (Montevideo) or an other city in Bolivia (SC or CB). Which country should I go?

Thanks for the help!

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@pfaff90 8yr

Hi all,

just wanted to share how this story ended, hopefully one day a nomad will profit from this experience:

First I checked with Apple if there is a international warranty. There is and I even can purchase a protect plan back home for my chilenean MB.

I went on a awesome three day tour through the salar uyuni, which offered an option to end up in san pedro de atacama in chile. From there I made a day trip to Calama, an ugly city with shopping centers full of apple products!

of course the MB 13โ€œ i wanted was sold out in the mac online store, so i headed over to reply and taddaa, they had one left - for a discounted price.

in the end the mb air was cheaper as in switzerland (<1000 usd), the flight to buenos aires ended up to be 150 usd less than from sucre and i had the chance cross the salar flats without an extra effort. and if the insurance will pay, i just replaced a four year old laptop without paying for it. conclusion:

a) if you need apple products in south america, chile is the place to go!

b) if shit happens, try to turn it into an opportunity

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If you are in Sucre, I would consider going to Arica. There are few stores selling Macbook. I went there last year and I found it with good price.

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This is based on experiences in India, so it may not be relevant, but just in case:

  1. Macbooks sold here are very frequently the last generation and not the current one, so if thereโ€™s any way you can confirm that youโ€™re getting the same model sold in the US, that helps. Apple store staff in India will always be wrong about this.

  2. Macbooks (especially Airs) canโ€™t upgrade RAM after you buy. In India, the 8Gb versions arenโ€™t available at all (nor are the I7 upgrades), but Apple store staff in Calcutta, Bombay, and Delhi will all insist that they can upgrade both for you after sales from the service centers. Once youโ€™ve bought one, the service center will tell you youโ€™re SOL.

I buy mine in the US, or have a friend haul one for me on a visit. Good luck!

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@pfaff90 9yr

Hi guys, thank you so much for the feedback!

@levelsio the mb was stolen out of my hotelroom. I was working all day long and just went for dinner (less than 1 hour). Coming back i found the window open and the laptop had disapearedโ€ฆ

According to your inputs i did some price research for paraguay and chile. If i get it right, the price for an mb air, 13" 128 gb in chile (800โ€™000 pesos ~ 1โ€™136 usd) is pretty the same as back home in switzerland (1050 usd), whilst paraguay is around 1500 usd.

i only found maconline.com as a chilean reseller with prices online: http://www.maconline.com/producto/8766-MacBook_Air_13_3_1_6_4GB_128GB_Flash.html

is there any Chileno or Chilena around that actually could confirm my calculation? Iโ€™m afraid of arriving in Chile after I had to cross a salt desert (hell what do i do for a macbook :S ) just to realize there was a hidden VAT of 50% or something like that and the actual price is like 1500 usd or so. I mean that would really suck.

regarding the warranty issue (if somebody one day will have the same challenge): according to apple switzerland theres an international one year warranty for mac books, also i would be able to buy a swiss protection care plan to extend the warranty to three years.

Thanks for your help!

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@kroger 9yr

Iโ€™m not Chileno, but I added the MacBook Air from maconline to the shopping cart and it says the IVA (Chileโ€™s VAT) in already added:

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I 2nd the suggestion of looking into flights to the USA. The cost will likely be similar and you wonโ€™t have a spanish keyboard to deal with.

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I would seriously consider flying to Miami. Or get someone to mule one down to me.

Chile could be good. But also look into how their Warranty works if you buy it out of the country.

You may not even find a top of the line model in SA. And if you can find a $500 ticket, but youโ€™d save that much.

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Iโ€™m sorry for this! I recommend you to buy in Santiago - Chile, avoid buying electronics in Argentina or Uruguay, it will be expensive. You can also buy in Brazil( only in cash ) with good price. This website is not in English but you can find good prices only in Rio de Janeiro: http://www.boadica.com.br/pesquisa/compu_notebook/precos?ClasseProdutoX=1&CodCategoriaX=2&XF=66

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@oskar 9yr

Brazil for electronics or imports? thats a joke! its the most expensive country in south america for that. Brazilians prefer to travel to miami to buy stuff :slight_smile:

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Iโ€™m from Brazil and I understand your point. If he can travel to USA , thatโ€™s would be great! He asked where to buy in South America and I would suggest to buy in Brazil or Chile. In Brazil if you know where to buy, you can find good prices too.

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@oskar 9yr

There is no way that an electronic item will be cheaper in Brazil than in Chile. Unless it comes from the black market or other illegal means. Brazil has a very protectionist economy so you have to pay enormous amount of taxes for importsโ€ฆ

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@levelsio 9yr

Sorry to hear, how did it get stolen? On the street? From your hotel?

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@oskar 9yr

Sorry for your loss, but this is common in South America. Mac books are very expensive, and in south america they are even more expensive.For the lord of god dont even attempt to buy one in Argentina or Uruguay. Those countries are protectionists and freakingly expensive for electronics. Paraguay could be cheaper if you go to ciudad del este but you will not have any warranty. Your best bet is santiago in Chile, a country that has many FTA with the USA and other countries in the world. You will not get a US price but still it will be far cheaper than other countries in SA.

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@db8871 9yr

Yes, definitely Paraguay. Also, if you have time, you may also want to look into services like paraguaybox. Buy at amazon and have them ship without customs charge.

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