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2 Weeks in Asia - Where to go?


by @jacob_tr | 4yr  | 9 comments

Hello,

Iโ€™m going to Asia in November, from the 15-30th. My first stop is the Phillipines, I have an office there and am meeting with my team for the first time (never been or seen them, weโ€™ve worked together on the internet), I donโ€™t want to spend too much in Manila, maybe 2-5 days - so I was thinking of heading to Palawan for 5 days, but then venturing out of the Phillipines and going to Laos or Cambodia or Thailand (still undecided). And then ending the trip with a few days of refreshment in Bali or may skip Bali if it makes the trip to crammed.

Iโ€™ve been to Thailand (10 years ago when I was 8, so you can probably write it off as a never been) Iโ€™ve also been to Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, KL, Bali, Japan. - so want to avoid those areas (excluding Thailand) - but I think 2 weeks is really limited.

Things I love are beautiful waterfalls, turquoise beaches/reefs, exploring incredible places โ€“ I donโ€™t want to be bored lazing by the beach all day for days. I was in Kuala Lumpur for 5 days a couple of weeks ago and found myself bored by the 3rd day, so I think I like to move often.

What do you think I should do to get the best out of this? Iโ€™m going with my best friend and meeting one of my employees/friend from Venezuela whose coming from a 40 hour journey so I want to make this trip the best for all of us.

This is my first proper trip to Asia / taste of digital nomadism, so I want to make it great :slight_smile:

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Yes, Coron and El Nido, as well as Boracay are a must-see, then Samui, Lipe or Krabi in Thailand. You can do both countries within that period but the traveling may be a bit exhausting.

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@pashley | 4yr

Iโ€™d spend the whole two weeks in the Philippines & as little as possible in Manila. I have met only one foreigner who loved life in Manila & he had $120K a year plus the company paying for apartment, car & driver. Others complain of overcrowding, traffic, scams, โ€ฆ

Most Western governments advise avoiding Mindanao, the countryโ€™s southernmost major island; thereโ€™s a Muslim insurgency. Iโ€™ve been anyway, but Iโ€™d say you should take that advice unless thereโ€™s a Filipino you trust who wants you to come along to his or her home town; even then Iโ€™d decline if it were toward the West of the region.
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Mindanao

Palawan is indeed lovely & reportedly Vigan (cobblestone streets & old Spanish buildings) and Baguio (in the mountains, so relatively cool) are as well. V & B are both North of Manila and on the same island (Luzon) so you might plan a route that included both.

Boracay is the countryโ€™s best-known beach resort area, but Iโ€™d suggest either Puerto Galera if you want heavy partying and/or lots of whores, or Bohol if not; both have gorgeous beaches.

My favorite place in the Philippines:
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Dumaguete

Another, nearby, that I liked & some consider the best in the country:
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Panglao

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@junzhongloo | 4yr

Bali is probably one of the nicer places in Asia to chill thought its pretty congested with tourist. Internet there is decent. If you do get sick of the beaches can always head to Ubud for a more relaxing environment.

I heard Koh Lipe in Thailand is good. Havenโ€™t been there myself but heard a lot of good things about it. If you dive, head towards Sabah, Malaysia. The islands around Sipadan is a haven for divers.

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@dvc | 4yr

Is the chance of getting killed in an extrajudicial drug raid low when there have been 1,500 killings recently in a country of 98 million, especially if youโ€™re clearly a foreigner and not involved in drugs? Sure.

But there have still been 1,500 extrajudicial killings recently in a country, which is 1,500 more than most places outside of active war zones: enough to give people pause, whether out of rational concern for their own safety or just โ€œwow, thatโ€™s a lot more executions than back homeโ€ surprise/worry. Itโ€™s a natural reaction.

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@levelsio | 4yr

Way too short IMHO to get any taste of it really.

Youโ€™ll be mostly flying and traveling in those two weeks (which is the not fun part of travel I think).

Iโ€™d consider staying in PH for 2 weeks or extending it to 3 months and then PH, TH etc.

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@levelsio | 4yr

Also PH isnโ€™t a place you want to visit now with all the drug killings by the government.

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@jacob_tr | 4yr

Phillipines is fine, I think youโ€™ve been reading too much western media articles.

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@levelsio | 4yr

An American guy just got detained for a corrupt set-up where they put a bullet in his luggage! Luckily, he was cleared after the US put lots of pressure on the gov.

But there have still been 1,500 extrajudicial killings recently in a country, which is 1,500 more than most places outside of active war zones: enough to give people pause, whether out of rational concern for their own safety or just โ€œwow, thatโ€™s a lot more executions than back homeโ€ surprise/worry. Itโ€™s a natural reaction.

Exactly. The point is itโ€™s a country thatโ€™s now beyond corrupt with a leader thatโ€™s doesnโ€™t have any respect for the justice system. Now if Iโ€™m traveling somewhere, Iโ€™d want to have at least some hope that I donโ€™t get arrested by corrupt police for something I didnโ€™t do.

This happened 4 days ago by the way.

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@jacob_tr | 4yr

I mean, what the heck do I do then? Iโ€™m suppose to be going in November to celebrate 6 months since I began my start up. Iโ€™m flying my assistant from Venezuela, our team is a team of 12 with 11 of them being in our Phillipines office. I trust your opinion. - but honestly, Iโ€™ve read your blogs and you seem like a pretty non airy fairy person (using your Laptop in Colombia at cafes, haha) โ€“ I cant seem to feel that sense of, being too creeped inside my shell, kind of like that feeling of not wanting to ride scooters in Bali because youโ€™ll crash, but when you do it, itโ€™s like โ€˜heck this is funโ€™. The whole phrase โ€œIf you live in fear, your not living at allโ€ - are the media reports just milking it, since itโ€™s become a top gossip thing (Philippines president). - I go on trip advisor sites and people are saying to not listen to the media whoโ€™s telling it from a western point of view.

100M People, 3.5K killings of suspected drug dealersโ€ฆ

Would you seriously not go their yourself right now, I mean, youโ€™ve been to Colombia?

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Hey everyone,

Iโ€™m a freelance + nomad newbie, off for my 1st proper trip in May. Iโ€™m wanting to spend a month somewhere and go from there.

I just came back from Slovenia/Ljubljana and loved it there (just a week). I donโ€™t mind โ€œsleepierโ€ places par-say, as long as theyโ€™re close to a beach or nature of some kind. In fact, I kinda like places less-busy and a bit smaller/cosier.

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by @nomadsince2010 | 6mo 5 months ago | 4 comments

I have been doing Southeast Asia during June to November for 11 years. Rainy, Typhoons - is wild - still warm but ya - getting older so not as into that. Where can go is warm and dry - not super hot like Vegas but warm and has to be DRY. Good Internet and affordable. Ty

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by @as11 | 6mo 5 months ago | 11 comments

Currently in Playa Del Carmen, Mexico and heading to Santa Teressa, Costa Rica next week.
Then Aruba in the Caribbean Sea for Christmas and New Year.

However I feel I want to head back to Central America to bring living costs down, rather than staying in the Caribbean Sea among the expensive Islands.

This means I have around 2 - 2,5 month of unplanned travelling.
Any digital nomads who have ideas about where to head in that timeframe?

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Where to move for tax purposes as a non-US citizen?


by @mender | 9mo 9 months ago | 5 comments

I am a New Zealander looking to travel for a couple of years in different countries. For this purpose I would ideally like to shift my company to a lower tax territory where I will live part time, as I am currently taxed at roughly 33% in New Zealand, however itโ€™s closer to 40% when I add in all the hidden taxes.

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What is your ergonomic set-up while traveling?


by @caseyr | 10mo 9 months ago | 18 comments

What is your ergonomic set-up while traveling?

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What do you use? How are you balancing health / portability?

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by @nomad4 | 11mo 11 months ago | 2 comments

Hi guys!

Weโ€™re leaving on Dec 1st for a 5-month DN experience with our kids, but we have second thoughts on our journey. We were supposed to do a trip in South-East Asia (Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia). Weโ€™re from Canada, and our clients are all in Canada right now (weโ€™re digital marketing consultants).

After comparing destinations, weโ€™re starting the think Latin America may be a better choice to make sure we keep most of our clients during these 5 months (same timezone). Also, it seems Latin America fits our needs too :

  • cheap (actually often cheaper than Chiang Mai according to Numbeo)
  • great weather (sunny while less hot than Asia)
  • business continuity : good wifi connection, limited time difference
  • learning opportunity : one single language = great opportunity to improve our Spanish
  • relaxed pace of life
  • kid-friendly
  • relatively safe (see countries below)

So here are our 2 options ; which one would you recommend for our criteria?

A: SEA : Thailand (Chiang Mai and a couple islands in the South), Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), Malaysia (Penang)
B: Latin America : Mexico (Playa Del Carmen/Tulum), Colombia (Medellin), Peru (Lima and other TBD towns), Chile (Santiago and other TBD towns), Argentina (Buenos Aires and other TBD towns).

Thanks!

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Which places in South East Asia are suitable for kids?


by @nomad4 | 12mo 11 months ago | 3 comments

Hi everybody,

weโ€™re a family of 4 from Canada (Quebec province) leaving to Thailand on December 1st.
Our plan is to take things slowly and live in a peaceful environment while working a little and doing homeschooling to our 6-year-old son (plus escaping Canadian-cold winter :smile:)

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  • arriving in Bangkok, staying there for about a week (air bnb probably)
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  • then Indonesia (Bali/Gili islands) (1,5 months)
  • And Malaysia (Batu Ferengi, Penang) to finish (1 month)

Weโ€™re not city dwellers, and love being surrounded by nature.
Knowing that, what would be the best places for a family who want something quiet, walkable and with reliable Internet service?

Thanks! :slight_smile:
Magali and Guillaume

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I have been a digital nomad for the last couple of years. I have always worked in tech and now run a couple of profitable online businesses that give me a reliable income and allow me to fund a nomadic lifestyle.

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in Estonia by @64tankman | 1yr 1 year ago | 0 comments

I previously use Profia. Contract is ending and I want to have someone who accepts crypto payment instead.

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Ko Lanta or Ko Phangan - which island is better for a digital nomad?


in Ko Lanta, Thailand by @melinda | 1yr 1 year ago | 6 comments

Iโ€™m currently in Penang, Malaysia and I was thinking to head to Thailand next. What are the best islands in Thailand to get some work done? I was considering either Ko Lanta or Ko Phangan because those both islands have coworking spaces. I might need to take some client calls, also video. Is the wifi good enough? Are there any other differences between the islands?

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Greece- WIFI- how is it really?


in Greece by @amandamay | 1yr 1 year ago | 0 comments

We are leaving for Greece in 60 days and need good wifi for the 3 months we plan on staying there, this is a must! Iโ€™ve heard mixed reviews and the 8-10 ranking on nomadlist are not super encouraging. Has anyone recently worked from there? What should we expect? We plan on renting an apartment after staying in airbnb and would like to work from the place we are staying in. Thanks so much for helping me decide if we can continue on or change plans.

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How do I ensure that getting refused entry to the UK won't keep me from getting an Australian 462 (work and holiday) visa?


in Australia by @allisonkirschbaum | 1yr 1 year ago | 0 comments

On New Yearโ€™s Day this year, I was refused entry to the UK due to not having proof of funds, an outward-bound plane ticket (I was road-tripping out with a friend via car) and not being able to prove that I had indeed canceled the lease on the apartment I had leased during a prior recent trip.

I havenโ€™t had any entry issues to any of the several countries Iโ€™ve visited after, but now Iโ€™m applying for a 462 visa (work and holiday) visa in Australia, and since Australia and the UK share an immigration info system, I want to make sure getting refused entry wonโ€™t keep me from getting a visa. None of the issues that cropped up in the UK (the proof of funds, the plane ticket, and the apartment) will be an issue in Australia, as Iโ€™ve never traveled there before, donโ€™t know anyone and will have proof of more than sufficient funds for the trip and an outbound plane ticket.

Anybody have any suggestions on how to make the approval process go as smoothly as possible?

Many thanks in advance! :smiley:

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Co-working space in Shanghai WITHOUT monthly payment


in Shanghai, China by @katrin | 1yr 1 year ago | 0 comments

Daily/hourly pass needed.
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Nomad volleyball hubs, know of one? (Asia)


by @brmolin | 1yr 1 year ago | 2 comments

Hey all! Planning to head to Southeast Asoa later this year and Iโ€™m looking for a place thatโ€™s got a good community of people who play beach volleyball. Iโ€™m in Medellin at the moment and joined up with a community of locals and expats who play a few times a week and Iโ€™ve gotta say Iโ€™ve quickly fallen in love with the game!

I want to find a place thatโ€™s got a good community I can play and practice with somewhere down there. Mix of locals and expats are both fine, though ideally thereโ€™s at least a few expats so I can communicate with at least one person in the same language! Iโ€™m open to indoor volleyball too, though I know thatโ€™s much less common (especially amongst nomads).

Appreciate any direction yaโ€™ll can give!

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What's the best mobile-data option in New Zealand for nomads?


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Hi All! Iโ€™ve heard Spark and Vodafone are the best. I plan to move around, so I care mostly about having good coverage, and all Iโ€™ll need is around 1 GB of data or so.

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Thanks!

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Estonia E-Residency & CFC


in Estonia by @edusantorini | 2yr 1 year ago | 7 comments

So, Iโ€™ve been looking into e-residency and moving my business to Estonia the past few weeks.
Iโ€™m still a tax resident in Germany and therefore fear Iโ€™ll be suspect to CFC laws. I somehow canโ€™t find any reliable info on this and I donโ€™t feel like reading through the whole law, so just wondering if anyone knows how CFC laws in EU countries come into practice. What taxes do I need to pay exactly? As soon as I cash out (dividends), as far as I can see I need to pay 20% income tax in Estonia. Then what? Of course, I would need to pay income tax in Germany. What taxes do I need to pay besides these?
And if I keep the money in Estonia/reinvest it, am I right that I wouldnโ€™t need to pay any taxes at all? Only for the money I cash out of Estonia/the business?

Iโ€™m by the way not doing this to evade taxes, taxes are secondary. I primarily simply want to move my business activities out of Germany + the all-digital concept and the bookkeeping service of agencies like leapIN are interesting.

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