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Can I make work calls from Saigon via VOIP?


by @ericvan 8yr  | 14 comments

I do client work, and am wondering if Internet reliability is a factor for making the regular VoIP calls expect to do? I donโ€™t mind paying for good VoIP (prefer skype). In the US, I got vonage and found it not so reliable, as the โ€œquality of serviceโ€ โ€ฆa metric that is not important for regular Internet useโ€ฆwas a problem. Anyone have experience on this issue?

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I worked out of Saigon for a total of 6 months on VoIP. Most hotels have fiber optics 50 down / 50 up. Quality of VoIP calls depends on your distance from the Wifi Router. More than one room away and you are going to have a bad time. Hard wire is the best way to go. VoIP works fine over 3G. Even when I got throttled at .25 up/ .25 down. VoIP worked fine on RingCentral/Skype/Google Hangouts.

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@ericvan 8yr

Hi @Wayland_Chin
Yea the key is 1. be hardwired 2. good โ€œquality of servicesโ€ which is mostly to do with ping time speed.

Without #1, #2 is often a problem, even with a fast network. IN the USA Iโ€™ve had problemโ€™s with very fast connections purely because they have lousy ping times/quality of service.

Sounds like everyone agrees itโ€™s works well in HCMC if you set up right.

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@ericvan 8yr

Hey @taxico. I almost had a deal with Dreamplex stay to 9PM, but they changed their minds. As with many co-wording places around the world, non standard biz hours are not their thing.

Dreamplex has studios and office spaces that are 24/7, but thatโ€™s no for individuals.

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@taxico 8yr

i had a tour of Dreamplex - I recall they had a 24 hour access optionโ€ฆ or was that only for the โ€œprivateโ€ offices?

in any case, it proved to be too expensive for my needs. i rented working space from my apartmentโ€™s management office for about $100/head/month.

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@tinodeb 8yr

Hi Eric,

I worked in Saigon as a programmer for the last 4 months. Internet is generally good, and 3G serves as a fine backup. Most cafes have enough bandwith for voice calls over Skype, WhatsApp or FaceTime. I must say that FaceTime consistently outperforms the other two in terms of quality and connectivity.

The better workplaces (Work Saigon and Dreamplex) usually also have a good enough connection for uninterrupted video, where again, FaceTime was consistently better than Skype, Hangouts or Appear.in.

I practically never had problems with audio over 3G.

There are stories about โ€œthe sharks biting the cableโ€ every once in a year, slowing down all internet down to a halt for a week, but I havenโ€™t experienced that fortunately.

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@ekbburner 8yr

Havenโ€™t had a problem in the Saigon for months! I recommend Dreamplex!

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@ericvan 8yr

@ekbburner Iโ€™ll be working out of Dreamplex. Hope to meet you! I have to find somewhere for 9PM and later and that will be a high quality apt connection.

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Hi Eric, I worked out of ho chi minh (saigon) for 3 weeks or so last year and had no internet issues. Internet was stable and good. I am in sales so I make calls and do presentations, internet quality is very important. I kept two backups via mobile but used my hotel internet. Even cafes are quite good in HCM. If it helps, I stayed in Hotel Sunland and this was during the vietnamese new year. Cheers.

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@ericvan 8yr

thanks @pratpreneur - thatโ€™s very reassuring! Iโ€™d seen some info about bad connections, but I guess if you scope out quality, itโ€™s there. I donโ€™t mind paying extra. Iโ€™ve been places where thereโ€™s just no good connection unless youโ€™re in an office with high-speed and hotels wouldnโ€™t have it. thanks!

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@taxico 8yr

i work out from HCMC a week out of every month.

i use skype (100 world minutes x 5 ms office 365 family users = 500 mins) + a 3G/4G prepaid data sim i get at the airport every time i fly in.

works a-ok on the cell phone with the sim inside. less reliable on my blackberry that hooks onto the vietel prepaid phone via wifi shared/mini hotspot.

voip (with an iphone app) through my regular cafe or hotel wifi (or any other free wifi hotspot) did not work well for me so i gave that up.

nothing more frustrating than being unable to communicate despite being โ€œon the phoneโ€ with the other guy.

skype also allows me to take/make incoming calls while on the move.

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@ericvan 8yr

Thanks @kierenb123. I could make calls from a mobile phone using 3G or 4G, but I think VoIP would be better quality. I donโ€™t want to use regular landline or international mobile, as costs would be too high. From stats Iโ€™ve seen, mobile networks are worse than ADSL internet connections in HCM.

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Hey @ericvanbuskirk,

I am currently running a virtual call centre using VoIP and I have been moving around for the past 12 months.

I have worked from Australia, Chiang Mai, Koh Phangan and the UK.

The only issues I had were in Koh Phangan where the internet cuts out every now and then, however, you can easily get a 4G sim card as a backup to the wifi wherever you may be working, this is fast and reliable enough for good quality VoIP calls.

Video calling (Skype, Facetime) may be a little worse for quality in the more remote areas.

Regards

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@ericvan 8yr

thanks @kierenb123. I think youโ€™re mentioning Thailand. I think wireless is much worse in Vietnam. Iโ€™m working from the best quality co working space, but it closes when USA is working. So I must rely on ADSL connection from a broadband provider to a large apartment building. I just donโ€™t know if quality of service issues will make that poor. Even in usa itโ€™s a small problem.

funny thing is my connection from my Philippine office, in 2005, to USA was quite good when talk to people 1/2 way around the world via vonage. the exception was when the submarine cable from the IT city of the Philippines was severed! LOL. virtually no internet for a whole week. total disaster.

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Hey @ericvanbuskirk. I was mentioning Thailand yes, perhaps check out if you can get 3G or 4G sim card, this can often be clearer than some of the wifi connections.

Other than that I guess it is waiting for Saigon to play catch up, even Koh Phangan has fibre optic now.

Good luck!

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