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How do I find short-term housing in Amsterdam?


in Amsterdam, Netherlands by @travelmore | 4yr  | 4 comments

Looking on Airbnb but it is really expensive. Anyone have any other options or sites that Dutch people use? Need a place from May to July.

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@adamnowek | 4yr

Really, @levelsio? The second-most expensive city in Europe? Iโ€™m curious as to where that data comes from. Maybe itโ€™s because Iโ€™m from a far more expensive city (Vancouver), but Iโ€™ll take Amsterdam prices over Oslo/Stockholm/Paris/Zurich/Geneva any day of the week :slight_smile:

Heโ€™s sure right about housing, though, itโ€™s not the easiest thing in the world to find something here because the housing stock is fairly limited (primarily driven by the large-but-dwindling proportion of very centrally located social and student housing properties and exponential levels of demand within the Ring [the A10 highway]). There are plenty of websites out there like HousingNet that target either reasonably-paid foreigners or their Dutch counterparts, but they tend to charge agent fees and usually arenโ€™t for rental periods shorter than a year (itโ€™s worth checking, though).

If youโ€™re looking for something on the cheaper side, Iโ€™d strongly recommend searching through the multitudes of Facebook groups on the subject if you canโ€™t find any Airbnbโ€™s to suit your needs. While lots of them are closed groups, they usually add new people pretty quickly. Some of the bigger groups that Iโ€™ve used and had success with in the past are:

  • Amsterdam Apartments 4 Rent (this one is especially good if you donโ€™t understand Dutch)
  • Kamers Gezocht/Aangeboden
  • Woonruimte Aangeboden / Gezocht (Amsterdam)

If you want to get a quick sense of what property prices (which, in general, correspond with rent prices, but not always) are like in Amsterdam, the city government has a handy interactive map that shows these numbers for 2014. Thereโ€™s a lot of neighbourhoods in that map that remain pretty affordable, especially in Amsterdam-Oost (more affordable neighbourhoods here include Indische Buurt, Watergraafsmeer, and the slightly-out-of-the-way Oostelijk Havengebied), Amsterdam-West (good neighbourhoods to look for here are De Baarsjes, Bos en Lommer, and Kolenkitbuurt), and Amsterdam-Noord (pretty much all of it, but youโ€™d have to depend on the free 24-hour ferry between Amsterdam Centraal and the north).

If you want to live within a 20-minute train of Amsterdam, other options could be Haarlem, Amstelveen, Purmerend, or Diemen. Of those, though, only the first one is really any fun on its own.

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@levelsio | 4yr

Well, second most expensive in housing right now!

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@levelsio | 4yr

Impossible :open_mouth:

Hereโ€™s your options (Iโ€™m from Amsterdam):

  • Hostel dorms at ~ $60/night (or $1,800/month)
  • Hotel rooms at ~ $200/night (or $6,000/month)
  • Airbnb at ~ $100/night (or $3,000/month, if you get a discount maybe $2,000/month)
  • Long-term rent for expats at $1,750/month
  • Short-term rent for expats at $2,500/month
  • Long-term rent for locals at $1,250/month
  • Short-term rent for locals at $1,500/month

Why is locals cheaper? Well, Dutch are very insulated socially, so they have Dutch-speaking Facebook groups where they rent out places to others. They also like to sub rent houses โ€œwithin friend groupsโ€, e.g. when they go on a year of world travel. Itโ€™s smart because renting to foreigners means more trouble to them (thatโ€™s why expats are charged premium).

Amsterdam isnโ€™t cheap anymore. Actually itโ€™s next to London, the most expensive city in Europe. One of the most expensive in the world. Iโ€™ll be sub renting a 1-bedroom place from a friend for $1,250 and thatโ€™s a pretty great deal. 6-people hostel dorms go for $60/night (!). Hotel rooms go for $200/night average.

The only people living in Amsterdam cheaply are the student kids whose wealthy parents bought a house for them or who got a mortgage themselves.

The only way to live cheap in Amsterdam is to live OUTSIDE Amsterdam, which means Amstelveen etc. And you donโ€™t really wanna live there, trust me (although itโ€™s GREAT compared to the rest of world, itโ€™s boring af).

Why donโ€™t you consider other cities? Rotterdam, Utrecht, Eindhoven are cheaper and also very interesting places.

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@travelmore | 4yr

Thanks for all the advice. If you need an idea for a new site or an addition to this site, I think there is a big niche for affordable short term furnished housing for digital nomads. Airbnb doesnโ€™t really cater to it very well.

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